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Sen. Craig has found unlikely defenders

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Frank Rich, in a New York Times op-ed, suggested that Senate Republicans should tread lightly in the matter of Larry Craig. He notes that homophobia and homophilia are linked in the Republican party, and he argues that transforming gay marriage into a political issue has resulted in the increased outing of closeted Republicans driving those remaining deeper into their closets. The exploitation of anti-gay semtiment leads to disproportionate intollerance even within their own party. He argues that, while alienating gay Republicans is counterproductive for the GOP, it is parallel to their alienation of other minorities.

Most interesting to me was Rich's mention of Frank Kameny who wrote to WorldNetDaily in defense of Sen. Craig. Kameny argued that unless Sen. Craig's flirtatious behavior amounted to an explicit offer of gay sex to be performed in public, it was all perfectly legal.

Rich further suggests that the major gay advocacy groups have muted their response because Craig has been a consistant supporter of anti-gay legislation. They'd apparently acquiesce to his shaming and departure from office before they'd waste much effort defending him.

I found Rich's observations and analysis to be a helpful assessment of the Craig case thus far.

Pardon Poor Larry Craig
 
Frank Kameny??? Is that old bat still around? I remember his "shtick" back in the 70s.
 
I want to be very clear -- I am in no way a defender of anti-gay closet cases like Senator Craig. However I do think those of us who are gay and sex positive should be careful when accepting dubious police practices such as entrapment and coercion to make arrest quotas and to intimidate gay people, (whether closeted or not).

Case in point: a few years ago a friend stopped in a Central Park men's room to take a leak. A couple of urinals down a good looking dude was standing for a while; the dude flashed his penis; my friend returned the favor but as there were others there that's as far as it went. When my friend exited the men's room he was nabbed, cuffed and put into a patrol car and taken to the park police station where he was issued a summons and made to pay a fine.

Now my friend is the kind of slutty braggart that if anything more had happened at the urinal he would have told anyone willing to listen. My point being that if we accept these tactics used against Larry Craig we must accept them to be used against anyone.

The ACLU, which is usually a gay positive org, also agrees.
 
Not necessarily, chuck. We can always pick our cases. But why put the next victim of a sting operation through the hassle when we could just as easily make the point with this one?

Oh, and Kameny has been involved since the 60s. I guess he's in his 80s by now. His big issue was discrimination in the civil service from which he was fired for being gay. I have the deepest respect for Frank Kameny.
 
Why pardon someone who has cause the LGBT community so much harm? Because as Rich mentions, he did nothing illegal? That's really rich.

So you believe that the rights of people we don't like shouldn't be defended? I think that is the position of the crazy rightwing; Why defend the rights of homosexuals when we hate them?

Craig did nothing wrong or illegal, he didn't even solicit sex, not that there is anything wrong or illegal with soliciting sex.

Craig was intimidated into pleading guilty to "disorderly conduct" or risk his trolling being exposed. Anyone concerned with civil rights should be concerned about this. Police raided gay bars for years using the same tactics, it is what sparked the Stonewall riots.
 
Construct, I completely agree with your points (and the others who have made similar ones). Rich's article should give everyone pause for thought - and that is regradless of sexual orientation. The country and our society has got to move on from this sort of thing, regardless of Craig's past positions, whether they are admirable or not. That is beside the point. The issue is a much larger one and we all should take that on board.
 
Thank you, SixPack.

I'm still a little shocked that anyone would call Frank Kameny an "old bat." At the risk of turning this thread into a history lesson, I will link his personal recollections of his contributions to the gay rights movement before Stonewall.

Frank Kameny
 
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