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Seriously considering joing the navy

Apollo

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Well I went out to get the mail and I got a Navy recruitment thing.

I have spent a good hour on the site, and thinking of joining. In my life right now, it would be a good thing. I don't have much else going on, and I am 10,000 short of my immediate costs for the college I attend. My only co-signer doesn't really have good credit at all.


So what do you guys think of the Navy? What do I need to prepare myself for? What should I know? Do I need to be in good physical health to get in blah blah blah?

What should I expect. Tell me the stuff they would never put on the website.
 
Re: So um...

Going back into the closet is going to be interesting. I am kind loose at checking out guys. I like beauty, so I will have to relearn techniques I used in middle school to not show.

But meh, whatever. It would still be worth trying either way. And despite most of you guys, I still have faith in Obama.
 
OK I'm not really sure you have to be that closeted in the Navy anymore. I meat a lot of marines that are pretty open about it. The young kids are pretty open minded about it these days.

Any reason why the Navy in particular? You like water a lot? Because if you just like the idea of join a branch of the military, I humbly offer the USAF. Best living condition, food, etc of any service.
 
OK I'm not really sure you have to be that closeted in the Navy anymore. I meat a lot of marines that are pretty open about it. The young kids are pretty open minded about it these days.

Any reason why the Navy in particular? You like water a lot? Because if you just like the idea of join a branch of the military, I humbly offer the USAF. Best living condition, food, etc of any service.
I just remembered I can't even swim...That wouldn't go over well in the grand scheme of things.

I will research the other branches just to make sure.

And as for the gay thing, I think the officers are obligated to report it if they see it, so I would mostly have to worry about them.

Thank you for reminding me. I am most likely going down the path of joining the military, but I guess it should be the right one.
 
That's why I was planning on joining the navy. I am mostly on a ship out to sea doing all types of stuff.

If I do join (most likely will) I want to specialize in intelligence, I feel that is where I can shine, and it has always been a lifelong passion of mine. So who knows...
 
Oh god. I am gonna have to start working out to get into shape for boot camp.

I have some weight to loose.
 
1. In order to advance in rank in the Navy you have to pass your swim tests. No tests you stay a Seaman Recruit and no advancement in pay.

2. Just because you join the Navy does not give you 'Preferred Sea Duty'! Depending on what billet, (or job you quality for), will determine if your on a ship or not. The Navy has a ton of onshore stations or bases you could be assigned to.

'Doing all types of stuff at sea', won't be true either, especially if the Navy sends to school for a particular job.

We had gay guys on my ship, it was a hush hush thing. One Sailor was so upset about his orientation, he tried to commit suicide....was not a pleasant sight at all!
 
^ thank you for the information. As I kept going through the info, I found that you don't always get what you want.

I have decided that the air force would be more my place. I figured that if I start getting in shape tomorrow, I would be ready to join by the end of august. Possibly the middle of august. I am not that out of shape.
 
Apollo,

look into the U.S. Coast Guard. A small militray service with a serious peace time mission. It has the highest overall standards of all the branches and an unsullied reputation among the boating public

i'm not saying that the members are perfect by any means but the Coasties don't have the body quotas some other branches have thus appeal to a"higher" standard of membership. i won't rant and rave the glory of the outfit here, just suggest you check it out. it is a unique organization and yet fully military with the pay and benefits of all services.
 
Are you in college? How far? Could you get a loan to go to a less expensive school?

Evaluate all of your options. The best upward mobility as you depart eh service belongs to the officers. Plus they scrounge up Intel Officers every year.

What are your goals for joining besides joining? College? Learn a skill? Patriotism? Play with big toys?

What are your goals in life? Healthcare? Law enforcement? Writer?

If you know anything about me then you know I am all Navy. Yet I will not push a preference because all service is good service. Army, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard and Navy. I can talk to you about potential following service and the specifics of getting what you want out of the Navy.

If you do decide to go into any service get guarantees written into your contract. Not some smack the recruiter is saying.....printed words. Recruiters use pick up lines and you can weigh the info knowing that.

I have guided Sailors for a long time. Tell me your wants and I can point you in a direction. However after that it requires commitment...four years minimum. Be prepared to be humiliated, challenged and then rewarded but it is not instant.

Also on the fitness thing....do what you must but I know Army and Navy recruiters will work you in their program if your interested and unless your obese then bootcamp will work thru those issues for you.
 
I can seriously say that I have squandered many opportunities. The service has become quite accepting and therefore many gay men who serve would make some screaming queens look straight. Yet I can't cross those barriers. Nobody can be more cruel than a lover scorned. I just don't need that.
 
I say 'knock yourself out boy!'

Dig out your old Cher video of ' If I Could Turn Back Time' and get ready to put out to sea.
 
My Navy experience is quite old - but I loved it - even tho it took me to the waters off the coast of Viet Nam -- and we fired tons and tons of ammunition inland - 3 cruises -for a total of around 21 months..
Lots of dehydrated cabbage/ beets/smashed potaoes - and powdered eggs when the food stores got low ! 30 days at sea - at a time -then as little as 4 days in Subic and back out for 30 more---
I'm sure boot camp is different now -but we had to wash clothes on a cement basin in 40 degree weather and hang them up with STRING - with proper square knots !! if your dungarees didn't dry - you wore them wet - you pressed clothes with a soap bottle FILLED with hot water.. after 'school' on the east coast - i got my ship (first choice) on the west coast - and off we went -- I got my duty preference because i graduated 2nd in my class. don't know what it takes today. I advanced to E4 - (and, BTW - Never took a swimming test in my whole time there - maybe had a little swimming in boot camp - can't remember - but i was a state finalist in 4 events - a regular SHORT michael phelps !!
I joined the Navy to avoid the ARMY -People were getting killed over there -everyone not in college was getting drafted - so i jumped into the navy before the army got me.. i loved every minute of my 3 years 9 months and 21 days. I cried when i left the ship for the last time-- I couldn't sleep when i got home -because my bed didn't "rock' back and forth... I was only 18 when i went in - I loved it all - -especially showering with the marine detachment we had on board --hehehhe
The coast guard seems like a good choice too - I know sailors today that are being assigned SHORE DUTY in IRAQ ! not good !!
Many of the newer ships require smaller and smaller crews - we had 1,000 men - that would never happen today..
One of the cooks tried to make comments about my "beautiful hands" when i had KP - so i put on my BIGGEST DEEPEST - BIG BOY VOICE and said - STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME !! real loud - YOU would get a dishonorable discharge in those days for sure..
You will learn a real lot about yourself if you join up - and a lot about other people too --
I wish the best for you.. Maybe you will love it soo much - and make a career of it !! I thought about it - but only for about 10 minutes.
Lastly-- I always thought i had it easy on the ship - as the boys in-country were getting blown up - so i never put myself in the same category as them ! -- I was talking to a VET recently - and we got to talking about the SHIP - and HE SAID - i CAN'T thank you enuff for being there - you guys really saved our ass - more than once -- I had NEVER in nearly 40 years heard this before - I nearly cried when he hugged me - a total stranger !! talk about making your day ! damn.
 
Are you in college? How far? Could you get a loan to go to a less expensive school?

Evaluate all of your options. The best upward mobility as you depart eh service belongs to the officers. Plus they scrounge up Intel Officers every year.

What are your goals for joining besides joining? College? Learn a skill? Patriotism? Play with big toys?

What are your goals in life? Healthcare? Law enforcement? Writer?

If you know anything about me then you know I am all Navy. Yet I will not push a preference because all service is good service. Army, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard and Navy. I can talk to you about potential following service and the specifics of getting what you want out of the Navy.

If you do decide to go into any service get guarantees written into your contract. Not some smack the recruiter is saying.....printed words. Recruiters use pick up lines and you can weigh the info knowing that.

I have guided Sailors for a long time. Tell me your wants and I can point you in a direction. However after that it requires commitment...four years minimum. Be prepared to be humiliated, challenged and then rewarded but it is not instant.

Also on the fitness thing....do what you must but I know Army and Navy recruiters will work you in their program if your interested and unless your obese then bootcamp will work thru those issues for you.
I am in college, but cash flow problems have set in sadly. I will try student loans, but I will most likely need a cosigner and my only source of a cosigner (mother) has horrible credit.

The school I do go to offers a lot a lot of money for me to go there, but I still owe about $10,000 cause I kinda dropped the ball a little let myself stay in a high school mindset. If I were to be able to go back in August, that would change completely, and the scholarships would be able to cover everything essentially. I still wouldn't rule out the army though.

Really my only reason for joining is to pay for college and to possibly work in the intelligence field. It is a field I have always loved, and it would kind of fulfil a small lifelong dream to be a spy in some form. It would be cool to do it.

I am studying graphic design, but I am still not sure if I was to land there for the rest of my life. Going into the army could possibly give me a wider variety of options should I go in. I'm not big on guns, but it wouldn't be a problem for me to use one in a sec. Reading all through the Navy site, I saw that they would have a place for graphic designers, but I don't think I would really want to end up there.

Right now, my choices are Navy and Air Force. I can't actually swim or tread water which is rather embarrassing. But it is something I can quickly learn as I also train to get back in shape. Is it really imperative to know how to swim?

I found this answer site and someone was asking a question about the airforce. This guy answered in such beautiful detail that it really helped. I did learn that I should make sure everything is in writing. So I will definitely be reading through it all to make sure it is all in there.

I am willing to commit the time, that is not an issue.

I am pretty out of shape. Not obese, I can walk and run a good amount of distance, but I will be working on building some muscle up and loosing weight to meet the weight requirement. It'll take me a month to do it, especially in the Houston heat.

Any information you could give on life in the navy would be wonderful. I kind of don't know what type of questions to ask. And if you know anything about the air force, that would be wonderful too.
 
I was in the USAF for 5 years, happy to answer any questions you might have. The last 3 years of my service was on an Army base, so I can answer a lot of Army questions too, and all my friends are marines now so I can cover that too.

Of the services, the USAF is the easy one with the least chance of getting hurt and the most chance of having fun. The marines get the most respect because they're the hardest service and they get treated like shit, but you measure yourself as a man and I find that's worth something. The army...lets not talk about the army.
 
I have two things to say... but I'm not going to say them. Instead, I offer these two things:

1) Forget what you saw on the Navy's recruitment website and actually talk to people who are currently in the Navy, people who are not recruiters. Check out their blogs and their MySpace pages. You'll get a very different story.

My nephew is in the Army, intelligence as you said above (not a spy, I don't believe there are such things, but rather a techie who services unmanned recon planes), but fifty percent of what his recruiter told him he'd be getting out of it, such as signing bonuses and paid trainings, has failed to appear. He has had some great experiences, many of which will translate into jobs when he returns to the private sector, but it's not what the recruiter said it would be.

Recruiters are basically salesmen who will tell you anything to get you to sign on the dotted line. Because my nephew is actually brilliant and scored in the 99th percentile on all his entrance exams, he did get put into intelligence and his deployments so far have been pretty safe (even though he spent a year in Iraq). But others who joined up at the same time, and who were told the same things, are doing grunt work (somebody's got to change the tires on the Jeeps and scrub down the toilets, after all) and getting shot at in war zones and flooded out in disaster zones.

2) Then there's the issue of discipline. They never talk about that in the recruitment literature, and the people who are successful at it tend to come by it naturally, so think nothing of it.

Are you the kind of guy who can put his own personality to the curb and do whatever someone else tells him, whenever they say, whether or not it's stupid or even useful? The military is about turning men into machines...if you think of yourself as an individual, and especially if you have a willful personality, you're doomed.

I wouldn't go within a mile of the modern military, myself. Aside from the whole DADT bullshit, I don't do what others tell me unless there's a good reason, and I could never wear the same thing someone else at work is wearing.
 
I was in the USAF for 5 years, happy to answer any questions you might have. The last 3 years of my service was on an Army base, so I can answer a lot of Army questions too, and all my friends are marines now so I can cover that too.

Of the services, the USAF is the easy one with the least chance of getting hurt and the most chance of having fun. The marines get the most respect because they're the hardest service and they get treated like shit, but you measure yourself as a man and I find that's worth something. The army...lets not talk about the army.
Could you tell me stuff about the USAF? I am really interested in it. What should I expect from it? The lifestyle, all that jazz and anything else you think is important.

I never intend to ever join the army or marines.
 
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