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Shameful Lesbians Forcing Sperm Donor to Pay Child Support

SamsDad said:
Presumably, but most states don't require the father's name on the certificate; eg, in cases of incest, rape, immaculate conception, etc. Seriously though, the state would probably not give up until someone provided a name and they did some DNA testing. I guess they could have given a fictitious name, but as they say what's done is done. Hopefully, people will think things over a little more before getting involved.
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Yep -- one more way for the government to discourage people from helping each other.

Kinda like a guy here who just wanted some pot holes in the road near his house fixed. He decided it would be easiest to do it himself, since he was getting his driveway repaved anyway. Thanks to a judge with good sense he didn't get fined, even though the DA insisted the guy should have gone through a process of permits that would have cost five times what it did to just fix the road.
 
This guy should have no liability LEGALLY, but really, he should have thought this through a bit more.
 
Kulindahr said:
Yep -- one more way for the government to discourage people from helping each other.
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This isn't helping an old lady carry groceries - this is creating a new life. There are CONSEQUENCES beyond just being nice.
 
Jack Springer said:
Why did you change the subject?

He didn't read the story -- he reacted over reading the full story. We've all done it. I think we've all been called out on it.

You're the one who trying to act like they're better than the others.

Sanctimonious describes your response JayHawk.
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The point is most of us notice and get it after the first post and see no further need to gang rape that person who made a mistake. I mean it isn't as if JustBelieve is posting fallacious bullshit threads every other day like most of your thread starts. It makes one wonder why a person like you would join the thread, read the previous entries and then say exactly the same thing as if you made some miraculous discovery. lol. If you wanna "ditto' a previous post just type ditto...

This is the second post in a row where you have jumped on my previous comment in another thread that you appear holier than thou.... musta struck a chord in you. lol.
 
can he just sign over his rights and be off the hook? if they force me to pay they I will be petitioning for joint custody.
 
Ah, this is my bad. I apologize for the confusion, everyone. If a moderator wants to adjust the thread title to the state, I can PM an adjusted commentary.
 
That's the point - apparently no one but him WANTS him off the hook.

justdra said:
can he just sign over his rights and be off the hook? if they force me to pay they I will be petitioning for joint custody.
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Just_Believe18 said:
Ah, this is my bad. I apologize for the confusion, everyone. If a moderator wants to adjust the thread title to the state, I can PM an adjusted commentary.
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Don't feel bad, Just Believe. This same topic is up in Hot Topics and I made precisely the same mistake you did. It's natural when you see there's a lawsuit for child support to presume the couple with the kids sought it... I'd never heard of the state, by itself, going after it without any complaint from the mother or party raising the kid.
 
TX-Beau said:
This isn't helping an old lady carry groceries - this is creating a new life. There are CONSEQUENCES beyond just being nice.
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Of course there are. That's why he made an agreement with the mothers. The only problem here is the government butting in where it has no business. If citizens sign a contract, unless it's a contract to do harm, the government should be bound by it.
 
Did he hire a lawyer? Do research? Or just jump in. I don't see how this diminishes the likelihood that I'm going to be nice to old ladies and children because of the "government."

I suspect anyone with any knowledge would have told him the law.

I for damn sure would not be siring any children without knowing exactly what the law concerning that was. 2 lesbians with an agreement does not an informed decision make.

I don't care what your OPINION on what SHOULD BE is, he obviously DIDN'T do his homework or he WOULD be LEGALLY untouchable.
 
xbuzzerx said:
Don't feel bad, Just Believe. This same topic is up in Hot Topics and I made precisely the same mistake you did. It's natural when you see there's a lawsuit for child support to presume the couple with the kids sought it... I'd never heard of the state, by itself, going after it without any complaint from the mother or party raising the kid.
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When kids are involved, states butt in all the time.
 
TX-Beau said:
Did he hire a lawyer? Do research? Or just jump in. I don't see how this diminishes the likelihood that I'm going to be nice to old ladies and children because of the "government."

I suspect anyone with any knowledge would have told him the law.

I for damn sure would not be siring any children without knowing exactly what the law concerning that was. 2 lesbians with an agreement does not an informed decision make.

I don't care what your OPINION on what SHOULD BE is, he obviously DIDN'T do his homework.
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He shouldn't have to do any homework -- he made an agreement with the mothers, and that's where it should end. State intervention to mess with a contract agreed on by the parties involved is immoral.
 
Kulindahr said:
Um, no -- the two women want him off the hook. They stand by their agreement and are fighting on his side.
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I rest my case, 2 lesbians with an agreement that wasn't legally enforceable.
 
Kulindahr said:
He shouldn't have to do any homework -- he made an agreement with the mothers, and that's where it should end. State intervention to mess with a contract agreed on by the parties involved is immoral.
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Oh spare me - no one but you lives in the libertarian utopia in your head. OF COURSE he should have researched it.

I think he should get off the hook to, and mayhaps he will, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!
 
Just_Believe18 said:
Ah, this is my bad. I apologize for the confusion, everyone. If a moderator wants to adjust the thread title to the state, I can PM an adjusted commentary.
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not good enough JB

a public flogging is in order
 
TX-Beau said:
That's the point - apparently no one but him WANTS him off the hook.
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Kulindahr said:
Um, no -- the two women want him off the hook. They stand by their agreement and are fighting on his side.
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TX-Beau said:
I rest my case, 2 lesbians with an agreement that wasn't legally enforceable.
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Jury out five minutes; you're guilty: your claim was false.

Next time follow the discussion before you rest your case.
 
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