She can't sing

[evilest]

It comes down to what people want; Singers, artists or 'performers'.

 

[prettyboysing]

I don't think technique has anything to do with being able to sing. If you are on pitch and have a pleasing voice, you can sing. You may not be able to in 20 years, but for now you can.

I say Madonna can not sing because whenever I've heard her live she is usually WAY off pitch. Also, her Evita was horrible. Every song was lowered. I'm actually usually kind of okay with that but she was also sooooo boring. There should be some exciting numbers in that show.

There is a very distinct line between a singer and a recording artist. I will buy a Britney Spears cd, but have no interest in seeing her live.

 

[ozguy]

I'm thinking Florence Foster Jenkins. Click here to listen to snippets of this woman's 'glorious' soprano voice ... Florence Foster Jenkins

 

[icefan]

Here is my favorite singer, singing live...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKE4ez7ap40

 

[prettyboysing]

People say Mary J blige cant sing either, which i dont understand.

Mary J has a very rough voice and is often shrill, but she MORE than makes up for it with power and emotion imo.

I have also heard people say that if a singer can't hit a high note they can't sing. That doesnt have to be the case though.

I completely agree with you here. While having a wide range could be a factor for saying someone is a good singer, being able to hit high notes doesn't necessarily equal a wide range; it means there's a big difference between your highest and lowest note and being comfortable singing in most of the area between. Case in point: the chick who sang Heart's "What About Love" on American Idol (I don't really follow it, so I don't know her name) sounded great on the high belty parts, but totally cheated the lower notes. Kind of ruined the song for me.

When Paris Hilton released " Stars are Blind" back in the summer, alot of people were saying who is this singing? Because they liked the song. Some people even said she sounded like Gwen Stefani.

Here's where we start to differ. Paris Hilton's cd is really her producer's cd. The vocals are so over-produced and buried that my grand-mother could have sung it and sounded the same. I'm not necessarily saying she can't sing (I've never "heard" her), this album just doesn't prove it.

Not everybody can belt it out like Celine but they do the best wth with what they can.

I'll take this one one step further... many people are amazing singers, but not belters. Two that come to mind are Maria Callas and Ella Fitzgerald.

I don't even think Mariah is the best vocalist either. Yes she can hit all these ridiculous high notes but her register is so high so her voice doesnt come out pure and smooth like Whitney's. And she always seems to be reaching and breathy. And her voice cracks alot. Yet i like some of her songs.

I'm not going to completely agree or disagree with you here. I LOVE Mariah Carey. Despite what I said about belters above, belting is my favorite type of singing. Older (well, younger) Mariah was amazing. Yes, she has incredible high notes (including, but not limited to her whistle tones), but she has shown some incredible low notes; just listen to "Vision of Love". A little later she did start this breathy type of thing that didn't do it for me as much, but I think she's coming away from that (I hope!)

 

[OtterJoq]

Madonna did not sing Evita, she murdered it! If you really want to hear Evita done properly, listen to the 1976 Covington version (the original), or even Elaine Paige. That IS singing!

Amen.

Thank you.

Why does Madonna have a career?

 

[james1200]

Why does Madonna have a career?

cause she blew every single record executive til one of them gave her a contract. then she blew every owner of a concert venue til they booked her...then she blew all the execs at MTV til they played her videos...then....

 

[RomeGuy]

It comes down to what people want; Singers, artists or 'performers'.

EXACTLY! Thank goodness that Madonna's talent encompasses all of these labels!

 

[niconico00]

Watch this if you want to have some fun...
It's Madonna, it's live but I'm not sure it's really that good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XUfO9aP5w

 

[evilest]

EXACTLY! Thank goodness that Madonna's talent encompasses all of these labels!

Oh please, Ms Madge is a media whore and attention seeker with a million dollar slush fund and and army of queens who'll buy any shit to take crystal to. And don't forget, she's down with da kids: Bitch knows yoga. How ghetto.

 

[mavenue]

I have never laughed so much reading any other threads. You guys are hilarious!

 

[doctorsun]

A lot of artists use a backing track. It's common place and expected. That's fine as long as they sing along with it instead of lip synching to it.

Contrary to popular belief, Ashlee Simpson was NOT lip synching on SNL. She was singing along to her backing track. When she went to perform her second song, someone played the backing track for her first one by mistake. You can tell is was just a backing track because not all of the words are sung. It was meant to be more of a false back-up singer. I'm not really defending Ashlee Simpson since I'm not a fan of hers, but it's always bothered me that people accused her of lip synching (on SNL, at least, I'm not sure what she did during other performances) when that wasn't the case.

 

[innocentbychoice]

Ok somebody please post the link of the Crazy night and days blog (I think that's the name of it) in which some celebrity lawyer talks about his cases without saying anyone's name. He recently posted this story of this ghost singer who was doing the vocals for a huge famous female artist out there....I'm not going to tell you all about it cuz is really long but I'm pretty sure someone has had to read it. My point is one of the people who commented on the site, said he worked in the music industry and that sort of things happens ALL THE TIME.

The thing is music business is THAT, A BUSINESS. So while not everyone can sing, anyone with looks and potential to be a great product (such as Britney) can have an album out.

How do they do it? Easy, they (producers, labels) hire someone who does sing to do the harder parts of the record (like the high notes) that the performer can't reach cuz he/she sucks. Then the producer blends both voices to make it sound right and make it sound like is the performer singing. Sometimes it's just small part of songs and sometimes they make the entire record with the ghost singer's voice put over the performer's voice to make it look presentable.

As I was reading that my jaw dropped to the floor and I instantly started doubting about everyone with a mediocre voice who doesn't sing live. I also realized the music business is full of crap and bullshit and is fake and it's all about the money. I realized why bimbos with no talent out there get so criticized all the time about their "singing" (y'all know who I'm talking about)...cuz it's probably not even them, have they ever sang live? NO. So don't believe everything you hear on records ok? As I said it's just about creating a product that makes money, labels don't care about being real and the performer doesn't either he/she is getting fame and money for lip-syncing!

Oh and the guy said that the ghost singers are under strict contract and they can't say a thing and they don't say a thing. It's a common practice in the music industry and nobody says anything. He even mentioned that a while ago someone tried to tell the media about it and the guy went to jail. So whenever you've heard rumors about someone saying they're the voices behind someone famous and then the rumors dissapear, you better believe them cuz they probably we're saying the truth and got shut.

Ohh oh and he also mentioned that with today's music technology they can even "create" live performances. Meaning that it sounds like it's live but it isn't.

So don't get tricked by all the Parises and Britneys out there, they're not real.

PS: Even though Madonna is not the greatest, she does sing. And I love Xtina, she's prooved she has the voice like a million times.

 

[Danugh]

Based on a certain post i feel compelled to say that Britney Spears is a grammy winning artist and was robbed BEST NEW ARTIST.

Madonna can sing. Britney has never sung live EVER. She can't sing in the studio either.

You are a lying liar. MTV many times have followed Britney into the studio and she does sing live.

MTV unplugged.

Saturday Night Live - "Dont Let Me Be The Last To Know" and "Everytime."

Dont talk about what you dont know. Its obvious you have a personal bias against the grammy winner and just dont like her but dont lie on her. Attack with facts but not fabrications.

MTV had series called DRIVEN where they showed how artists got to be who they are today. When Britney was 5 or 6 they showed footage of her singing at concert and belting out all these songs and everyone was amazed at how this little girl had such a big voice. They just knew there was something special there.

She also won Star Search at 9.



I find it interesting that some singers for example - Whitney, Mariah, Celine - can sell out a stadium or arena and just stand in one position and belt out songs for 3 hours, while others singers like, Beyonce, Christina A, have to have to lots of chereography to accompany the music. Infer as you like.

 

[fiorio]

madonna is not a bad singer at all.
who really can't sing---: britney spears

 

[Danugh]

Fiorio? how many grammys do you have? 0, None? thats what i thought.

Britney has one

and 7 nominations inclusive of BEST NEW ARTIST.


You fiorio are no authority on singing ability.

 

[dr_beat]

Can someone tell me what it means to be able to sing?

Alot of times a new artist comes on the scene or even established artists (Madonna) and people always say, "She can't sing."

What does that mean?

Most recently i adore, "Hung Up" and "Sorry" those songs are damn good. Yet people say she cant sing. She sounds good to me. Ray Of Light album was awesome , "Frozen" anyone?

I am just using Madonna as an example.

So tell me what it means to sing, since so many of you seem to be experts.

Madonna has some great hits and apparantly puts on a great show. Do I enjoy her as a singer? Absolutely not.

 

[dr_beat]

download or buy X-Static process from the american life CD or watch Evita, she can sing.


They say she can't because people like to say things they can't back up.

If Evita is your back-up, perhaps you should listen st Patti LuPone singing the role--oh, and while you're at it, watch her act it too. Now there's a performer.

 

[dr_beat]

being able to sing means using proper singing techniques such as singing while using your stomach rather than your throat for vocal support, having control of your voice, being able to control your pitch......people say that artist like madonna can't sing because whenever they perform live they always use a backtrack......if they were really good singers they wouldnt have to use a backtrack......take for example jill scott.....if you see her perform live she's sounds as good as she does on her cd's. and no, madonna can't sing.....i would hate to be maddona record producer....can you imagine how many times they would have to re-record things just because she's not a good singer? =/ people like madonna and britney spears sing from their throats....which makes them sound like shit.

Not sure what you mean by "backtrack." Do you mean they lipsynch at concerts? If so, then it's true. Many of these so-called great singers of the past 20 years use their show to hide the fact they can't really sing live. If they put on a good show, it doesn't really matter. I know which artists I want to see live because the power of the voice (which usually means the lyrics and music as well) is the draw. If I want a good visual with cool dance numbers, I'll go see Madonna or, gosh, even Beyonce.

 

[starlight70]

When we compare them with those who went for audition in American Idol, perhaps we can see that these artists can sing. It's a matter of how well. And of course, that star quality too.