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Should Dink Flamingo return to Producing/Directing Gay Porn??

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Let me start out by admitting that I am a fan turned personal friend of Dink's. I live about an hour away from him and met him years ago before he left NC and moved to San Diego. Since he "retired" I have made the drive many weekends to hang out with he and his lover on their 500 acre farm. Just before "disappearing" from behind the camera, Dink fell in love with a Marine he met from Camp Pendleton. For those who are curious, no, his lover never occurred in any AD videos. He did direct a solo of a model named "Hunter" though.

Dink's attention has been squarely focused on his land and his relationship for the last three years and he has really built a special place that seems to make him very happy. However, some weekends over a couple of beers and a bonfire I bring the subject up and ask if he'll ever return to making porn. I guess I could be accused of trying to convince him that he should. His lover (a sweetheart of a guy) is also very encouraging and says he can tell that Dink misses it. Dink tries hard to deny it, but as his eyes stare deep into the crackling fire you can see his mind drifting back to those days. There will be a long silence accompanying the stare and then a grin followed by a laugh and "Ya'll are crazy. People aren't interested in what I have to contribute anymore." When I tell him yes, yes they are, he just shrugs and says "Prove it. Show me that people still want me behind the camera and I might consider it."

It is at this point that I usually try to remind him of how much he contributed to this world we call online gay porn. I go all the way back to the beginning of AD in 1998 and ask him to tell me how many gay sites still exist that started out in 1998. I also try to explain to him, and not because I don't think deep down he isn't aware, how he was virtually the creator of the "straight guy tries gay sex for the first time" format that so many people would imitate after he blazed that trail. I mean really, how many gay membership sites can we confirm are still in operation today that started in 1998 or before? For me, AD was the first site I ever joined back in 1999. At the time it wasn't much more than a handful of video clips, some galleries and about a half dozen VHS tapes for sale.

Yes, my opinion is biased because I remain a friend of Dink's and remained a long time fan of AD and Dink both for the entire time that Dink was behind the camera. I can no longer say that, unfortunately, and the reason for me is that Dink is no longer there. For a long time I despised Dink while I loved AD, but as the site grew and more material was offered I came to understand that Dink's personality, whether you loved it or hated it, had much to do with how good the content was. Dink had a way with the boys that was unsurpassed by his competitors, he pushed envelopes, stopped at nothing until he got what he wanted and the guys seemed to do it as much for him as they did anything else. Sure, he was paying them, but there was something different about his relationship with the guys that came through on the videos. It was like he was their antagonist that they loved to hate, but loved in the end anyway. I would find out just how deep this ran once I became personal friends with Dink in 2003 and finally got an invite to his home to meet some of the guys. What I was seeing come through in the videos came through even more in person. He was their friend.

Ultimately Dink would abandon what he loved because he could no longer stand to watch what was inevitable with the invention of social media and just the growth of the Internet in general. It had come to a point where every time he posted a new hot recruit, there was as high as a 50/50 chance that someone they knew or worked with would discover what they'd done and their whole life would get turned upside down. Dink would respond by removing their videos for a "cooling off" period hoping all would quiet down after some time. Many of you, like me, will remember countless videos mysteriously "disappearing" from the site for long periods of time or forever. This didn't happen with all the guys, but it got more and more common and Dink finally just couldn't stand it anymore. Even with a protocol in place of forewarning the guys about the chances of it happening and instructing them to "lock down their Facebook accounts", etc., it still happened. Dink realized that things would never be the same, that each time he recruited an active-duty military guy, the chances of that guy suffering as a result was always going to be a very real possibility. He began to fight an inner struggle between his love and obsession with military guys and the hard reality of the situation.

With that said, I'm not saying that he is going to return behind the camera, but if I could show him positive feedback, it may inspire him to seriously consider it. I have gone as far as to ask Dink if he *did* return what his focus would be and here are some of the things he's rambled off at different times when we've have these bonfire brainstorms:

1. More reality/behind-the-scenes focused stuff

2. Not to be pigeon holed anymore by the need to recruit only military guys (his personal interest have changed a lot along the way). He's mentioned recruiting guys from the local rodeo, blue collar everyday types, college jocks and outdoorsmen. He's also mentioned having a good mix of different ethnicities.

3. A cutting edge site that not only included videos and footage shot by the studio, but with a focus also on self-directed/uploaded content from "contestants" who compete against each other for the vote of the members in the vein of "America's Got Talent". LOL which I find pretty cool.

4. A fresh format. Not a complete deviation but with noticeable difference from his usual Q&A opening interviews but says he still thinks that info is important somewhere in the video just for the viewers benefit. That was one thing I always liked about AD's format was getting that glimpse into the guy, if only briefly, and getting to know a little more about them. Another thing his banter in the videos did was bring out the guys personalities and get them to open up, be themselves and allow us that glimpse sometimes without them even realizing it. And often times I wonder if Dink planned it that way or if he even realized it at the time.

5. Much more outdoor stuff. One thing Dink has come to love since he began building his land into a place he and his guests can have a lot of fun exploring is riding four wheelers, side-by-side ATV's and even homemade contraptions that he and his friends have built. And I've even helped on. His life these days is more focused on the outdoors, and being one with a place he and the love of his life have built as their personal haven. He credits it with saving his life since he's lost nearly 75 pounds along his journey into a different life, far removed from porn, but I suspect a heart that still longs for it and surely an eye for it that is still as sharp as a tack. I've heard him say, "I'd like to film what guys do every day and build in the fantasies that many of us have after the four wheelers are cooled down, the beer is flowing and the bonfire burning."

A couple of things I've noted throughout my some dozen or so weekends at his place is an abundance of the very types of guys that Dink mentions above. It seems like he's not only built a sanctuary for himself and his love, but for the perfect examples of all these types of guys to flock to. Some of them know about his past and some of them don't, but I have a funny feeling if he whipped out a camera and asked any of them to throw caution to the wind many of them wouldn't hesitate. In fact, many of them do so own there own without the cameras running.

Another thing I've noted from talking to Dink is that he still owns ASG. I've tried to convince him that ASG would be the perfect place to hatch his new brand of porn. A suggestion he just laughs off, but you can see the wheels turning.

I have never visited these forums before, I always just look at the galleries and move on, but Dink specifically mentioned the JUB Forums that's why I am here. Forgive me if I've proven too longwinded but I'd like to prove to Dink that I'm not alone in my enthusiasm to see him return behind the camera and to put some hot guys out here for us to enjoy.

So many sites have been bought up and ruined over the last couple of years by the big straight companies and in my opinion gay porn has suffered as a result. To have someone who brought so many of us so much enjoyable content return would be a welcome diversion.

Dink claims, a claim his lover confirms, he doesn't look at whats going on in porn anymore, doesn't go to any blogs, adult industry news sites and doesn't look at porn beyond following boards of hot vintage guys on Pinterest or follows a couple of Instagram accounts and mainly by my urging watches the occasional classic AD DVD from time to time to which I once heard him respond "Damn, no wonder people thought this stuff was so hot." Dink admittedly never watched his videos after he'd shot them except to write his narrative descriptions but says of those viewings "that wasn't really watching them, it was scanning them."

Dink has ultimately given me his blessing to post on a few different blogs to see what kind of feedback I get as long as I give him the negative feedback along with the positive. A promise I'm determined to keep. As I said, I may be biased and alone in my wish to see someone who gave me so many hours of enjoyment return behind the camera so I'm here asking you.
 
Yes, yes, and yes. Dink's way with his guys is sorely missed. The ASG brand seems like a very likely home for what you suggest.

That said, I'm glad to hear that he's doing well. I hope Cole is as well.
 
No One...and I mean NO ONE needs that racist piece of shit back in porn. Keep it moving.

CXXX..|
 
Yes, yes, and yes. Dink's way with his guys is sorely missed. The ASG brand seems like a very likely home for what you suggest.

That said, I'm glad to hear that he's doing well. I hope Cole is as well.

Thank you for your feedback. Cole is also doing well. He's still close to Dink and lives nearby.
 
Your feedback will be relayed. I promised if I did this I would give all feedback without cherry picking the comments :-)
 
I use to like Dinks Vids. I was a big fan of Dirk Yates and Dinks were similar.
 
Active Duty was far and away the hottest porn in the early oughties. Dink Flamingo had the brilliant insight that Special Services guys, that is to say guys who jump out of planes for a living, probably wouldn't have many boundaries in the bedroom provided there was money on the table. Queer sex for these adrenaline junkies/thrill seekers was just another dirty dare, like eating worms. So he got all these guys to do all sorts of stuff you'd never see in tepid 'mainstream' Catalina/Falcon gay porn. Young, in tip-top shape, good looking, clean-cut, and above all else genuine, they were so much hotter than the Falcon Muscle Marys. Kody, Chaz, King Cole, Shane, Dean, Brock -- are all legendary. Then, of course came le scandale, and Dink was nearly run out of Fayetteville on a rail!

While there were several high points in the early SD years (David, Kayden, Dorian, DJ, Reese, Brian, Conrad) it was pretty much downhill from there. The format slowly changed and became more professional. And I think the fact that AD was no longer the only show in town as it had been in Fayetteville contributed the decline. It struck me that they went head-to-head with Sean Cody in recruiting sexually flexible leathernecks such as 'Chase' and Donald Burns' boy-toy 'Ashton'. And I got the feeling that they were increasingly waiving the 'Active Duty' requirement. I'd guess that most of the recent models never saw a recruiting office apart from FabScout. Lastly, partnering with Brent Corrigan is always a bad idea.

I understand that one of the reasons Dink decided to get off the merry-go-round was health issues. If he's got a nice nest-egg saved up, I'd just enjoy my retirement.
 
Active Duty was far and away the hottest porn in the early oughties. Dink Flamingo had the brilliant insight that Special Services guys, that is to say guys who jump out of planes for a living, probably wouldn't have many boundaries in the bedroom provided there was money on the table. Queer sex for these adrenaline junkies/thrill seekers was just another dirty dare, like eating worms. So he got all these guys to do all sorts of stuff you'd never see in tepid 'mainstream' Catalina/Falcon gay porn. Young, in tip-top shape, good looking, clean-cut, and above all else genuine, they were so much hotter than the Falcon Muscle Marys. Kody, Chaz, King Cole, Shane, Dean, Brock -- are all legendary. Then, of course came le scandale, and Dink was nearly run out of Fayetteville on a rail!

While there were several high points in the early SD years (David, Kayden, Dorian, DJ, Reese, Brian, Conrad) it was pretty much downhill from there. The format slowly changed and became more professional. And I think the fact that AD was no longer the only show in town as it had been in Fayetteville contributed the decline. It struck me that they went head-to-head with Sean Cody in recruiting sexually flexible leathernecks such as 'Chase' and Donald Burns' boy-toy 'Ashton'. And I got the feeling that they were increasingly waiving the 'active duty' requirement. I'd guess that most of the recent models never saw a recruiting office apart from FabScout. Lastly, partnering with Brent Corrigan is always a bad idea.

I understand that one of the reasons Dink decided to get off the merry-go-round was health issues. If he's got a nice nest-egg saved up, I'd just enjoy my retirement.

I agree with most, as well as Dink himself, that AD did take a turn toward the more "professional, polished" side after he relocated to SD. Truth be told Dink started stepping away from directing a couple of years after moving to SD and turned the camera and a lot of the recruiting over to others. For me, I could always tell when he was actually behind the camera for the duration of the scene rather than just doing the "intro's" and bouncing.

He's back on the East Coast now and has built himself a bevy of bro's just like the boys from AD's golden era, Dean, Kody, Cole, et. al. His farm is a haven for them. I've read somewhere else that it was health reasons that caused his departure, it wasn't that at all. Love did it. I'm not positive that he will ever seriously consider returning to the porn fold, but I'd personally like to see it.

Thanks for your response. I will pass it along as I will all others. I do know that he has written a book about his time at AD and his friend Steve Zeeland is now editing it.
 
Truth be told Dink started stepping away from directing a couple of years after moving to SD and turned the camera and a lot of the recruiting over to others. For me, I could always tell when he was actually behind the camera for the duration of the scene rather than just doing the "intro's" and bouncing.

A similar thing happened to Corbin Fisher after their move from their Tampa suburban Homotopia to Las Vegas. Jason Gibson became more hands-off and turned the direction over to 'Pete' and it became just another cheesy gay porn site. MindGeek is in the process of ruining Sean Cody

I do know that he has written a book about his time at AD and his friend Steve Zeeland is now editing it.

I wonder if Mark Simpson is involved. A decade ago, he wrote a great piece on AD for Details ("when it comes to dick, soldiers are no pussies!")
 
I wonder if Mark Simpson is involved. A decade ago, he wrote a great piece on AD for Details ("when it comes to dick, soldiers are no pussies!")

I've never been a big fan of Corbin myself so I wouldn't know the difference between their Tampa days vs. their Las Vegas. I've always preferred rougher trade. Same for Sean Cody But the straight companies buying the gay sites are ruining gay porn in general imo. You seem pretty savvy about the industry so I'll ask if you know of any sites similar to AD in the old days? And I've seen all the military sites so none of those please lol.

I haven't heard Mark Simpson come up when we've talked about the book. I need to get back down to Dink's place for another weekend soon.

Old AD may never be repeated. It was almost too good to be true. The live shows were all classic.
 
Old AD may never be repeated. It was almost too good to be true. The live shows were all classic.

When Dean said Chaz' kiss tasted like ass and cum.

The great thing about real military is that they're on the boundary between jock and trade. Trade alone doesn't do much for me: I like guys who are clean-cut and in-shape. Tom of Finland type erotica is a real turn-off. Not into leather jackets, biker gear.
 
Like Sean Ostler I think he sold out high and enjoying his retirement.
 
There was something magical about the Fayetteville paratroopers: Cole, Shane, Brock, Damien, Chaz, Dean, Kody, Swedish. They weren't gay, they were just durty, durty boys! He recaptured some of that with DJ, Reese, Dorian, Spencer, David (Knight), Brian, Conrad, but it was never quite as raunchy as Fayetteville. The great thing about AD is that they did stuff the the SC and CF boys were too prissy to do!

I don't think that can ever be recaptured. Dink saw, or rather created, his opportunity, found a way to turn his addiction to giving glory-hole BJs and being tight for horny soldiers off-base into a fortune. The military's on to it now.
 
Like others, I am a fond fan of the Dink Flamingo years of Active Duty and still have many of his scenes, as they among the hottest porn I've seen.
The fact that he could get (for the most part) straight men to do the things they did and enjoy it while giving us hot scenes is likely to never be duplicated again.
Would be nice to see him filming again but at this point, I think he's done.
 
I've never been a big fan of Corbin myself so I wouldn't know the difference between their Tampa days vs. their Las Vegas. I've always preferred rougher trade. Same for Sean Cody. But the straight companies buying the gay sites are ruining gay porn in general imo. You seem pretty savvy about the industry so I'll ask if you know of any sites similar to AD in the old days? And I've seen all the military sites so none of those please lol.

I haven't heard Mark Simpson come up when we've talked about the book. I need to get back down to Dink's place for another weekend soon.

Old AD may never be repeated. It was almost too good to be true. The live shows were all classic.

Such a damn shame so many of the live shows weren't saved (along with many of the photo shoots) on the new site.
So much hotness lost forever.
 
come back dink!! I'll sign up today. miss your outstanding recruitment skills. and if u still own ash, you've got your vehicle.

as im older now, would be an amazing fun if some of the older guys would do a reunion show. im sure most of em have aged beautifully.
 
Well, well, well all my hard work in trying to convince Dink to return to making porn has finally paid off. I guess I can take some credit since I have been constantly cheering him on. Dink has relaunched a totally new redesigned Amateur Straight Guys. He is back behind the camera and this time it's more for fun than anything else. Be sure to stop by guys and give him a welcome back. I'm sure he'd love to hear from all of you. Good or bad. I think what will be the best part of him coming back to the industry and his work at ASG will be the fact that this time he is not doing it for any other reason except the fun of it. Be sure to see his first new guy Maverick which was his first update to the brand new ASG. And thank those of you who helped me urge him back.
 
Ass Eater you will be pleased to know that Dink has made his new home at AmateurStraightGuys and they just relaunched the totally new site the other day. It's up and running now so go take a look.
 
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