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should I keep this friend?

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Ok guys I need your help with this and apologies for the length of post. I have known this guy Jeff for about 20 years. For 10 years we were best friends. He is straight and I have never been sexually attracted to him but I was emotionally close because I didn't have any other friends due to being closeted and not wanting people getting close and asking questions. About 4 years ago I came out to him which was awkward because he waivered between telling me I wasn't gay and he'd snap me out of it and accepting that I was gay. The whole thing got so confused that I never spoke to him about it again. Despite that the reaction was positive and he didn't seem to have any problem about it afterwards. However on the day I came out to him he suggested that I talk to his wife about it but I was so confused by his waivering reactions that I backed off and asked him not to say anything to her because I thought at the time I had made a mistake in coming out to him.

Things seemed OK afterwards and we carried on as normal. At the time he was doing some consultancy work for me part time. A few months later I found that during the hours I was paying him, he had sometimes been working on his own stuff. The first time I caught him he apologised and made some excuse and I let it go. Then a month later I caught him at it again. I didn't confront him but he knew I knew and he offered no excuse or explanation. Shortly after this he stopped coming into work, with no explanation and when I called he said he'd be in next week and wasn't and so I had to go and see him and said we should call it a day on the work front and from his reaction I could see it was what he wanted but just wouldn't say so. Anyway that's when the problems set in. I felt pretty shitty to be honest that this guy had kindof ripped me off despite being best friends, and the fact that he couldn't just tell me that he wanted to go and instead went through this whole charade to make me do it instead. He had also let me down on a couple of other work related things. We had been work colleagues, best friends for 10 years, been on holiday together, I had been at his 21st, engagement, wedding, was Godfather to his 2 children, and his kids call me Uncle, and I know his family well. I have always looked out for him and been there for him. These facts made me feel worse about it. All I wanted from him was an explanation or apology so we could clear the air and move on, but I never got it. Instead he just wanted to pretend nothing happened and carry on as if everything was fine.

This is a pattern I have seen all the time I have known him. He would just do whatever suited him with no regard for whether he broke appointments, trod on or used people because at the end of it he would just carry on like nothing happened and the other person would end up doubting themselves and he would get off the hook for his behavoir without ever having to explain or apologise. I have seen him do it to others so many times but never before to me and I wasn't gonna let him get away with that with me. If I tried to raise the subject he cut me off and then didn't speak to me for months, and would then phone as if nothing had happened. If I tried again the same thing would happen. Anyway for 2 years we had a very superficial friendship where we kindof pretended that everything was ok, but there was no closeness there anymore for me. I could sense he wanted to improve things between us but on his terms. I could never get closure on what had happened because he would never discuss it and it was made worse by the fact that he would just cut me off if I wanted to say how I felt about how he had treated me. I was just left angry that he had treated me like that. There had been other times in the past where he had done things and I had let him of the hook and carried on just to save the friendship. Anyway about 2 years ago we met up and had lunch and seemed to get on ok and I brought up the subject to try to clear the air finally and he stonewalled me again. Later I sent him a text saying "we seem to have lost the ability to communicate" He called me and we ended up having a row because as soon as I tried to explain how I felt he immediately shut me down and wouldn't discuss it and ended up hanging up.

Since then I have been pretty much cut out of his and his family's life. I used to always see them at Christmas and Easter, we would get together for birthdays and we'd stay over at each others houses. Now all these events go by and I never here from them. If I contact them before hand he says he'll call me back to arrange this or that and never does. It seems for more than a year like I was doing all the contacting and keeping in touch. He never initiated anything. Anyway about 6 months ago he finally phoned and we agreed that him and his family would come and stay over for the weekend at my house which they did, and I put a lot of effort into it, to try and repair things, and although it still wasn't like it once was, we had probably the best meet up we had had for a few years. It ended with them saying they would invite me over during the Christmas break. It got to Christmas Eve and I hadn't heard from them so I texted them Happy Christmas etc and he texted me back saying he would call me in a couple of days to arrange a meet up. A week later he called for a brief chat and said he expected that I would be about to go on holiday because I usually go away just before New Year, every year (but not this year.) He finished saying he would check with his wife when would be a good time for me to come over and call me back. A week later he called and said the same I'll check and come back to you and arrange etc, which he didn't do and since then has done this again twice. A month ago he finally arranged to come over one lunchtime for a bite to eat and a beer, and on the day I hadn't heard from him as to where or when we were meeting so I texted him asking if he was still coming. He said " Probably, but plan your day as if I'm not coming, but I'll call you shortly and let you know one way or the other." He never called. Two weeks later he phoned like nothing had happened and said the usual I'll come back and arrange this etc and as usual didn't. But that last time I wasn't as friendly and outgoing as before because I wanted him to know that I didn't like the way he was treating me but I didn't want to reproach him because of the fragile nature of our friendship. Before then I had remained friendly because I know that this is the last chance to save our friendship. He called me on friday but I didn't take the call and instead let him leave a message. His message acknowledged that he keeps changing the meetings but it was done in a jokey way like it didn't matter, and saying he would be around on Thursday and wanted to meet me for lunch. So far I haven't called him back. I really don't know what to do, because anytime I interact with this guy I end up feeling hurt, used or pissed off at him. In between Christmas and now have been my birthday, his and his wife's birthdays and Easter, all of which we used to get together for and for which this time I was just ignored. The cynical part of me thinks he has an ulterior motive for this lunch meeting. I know that two Companies who owed him money went bankrupt in the last couple of months and that he may be looking for financial assistance from me, although I have no evidence of that except gut feeling. I don't know whether this whole situation is my fault for not just letting the initial thing go or whether I was right to expect more of a best friend. I just don't know whether to ignor him and finish it once and for all or whether to meet him for lunch this week (assuming he doesn't end up cancelling again) and give it one last shot, although I don't really know if there is anything left to save or build on anymore. Comments greatfully appreciated.
 
Turnabout is fair play. Treat him with the same nonchalance he shows you. If he wants more, it's up to him to put in the work.

Other than that, I'd move on with my life. You've done enough, the ball is in his court - he's no longer a friend, he's an acquaintance, treat his as such until he decides he wants more than that.

That and don't do him any favors - it'll just muddy the issue.
 
This has been hurtful, which is something he won't acknowledge. I think you have to move on. It would probably be better to say no to any request for a meeting rather than being gamey and treating him like he's been treating you.
 
No real friend would ever behave as this asshat has behaved with you. Please, please do yourself the kindness of not allowing him to further hurt you. Time to move on.
 
it seems that your a good friend. and i understand why you lasted this long but i wouldnt. you should treat him like he treated you. you should call him and tell him to come over then change the plans at the last minute. they come over your house but you cant come over theirs. thats unfair.
 
Seems like it is time for you to move on and leave him out in a nice way.
 
thanks for your replies guys He phoned my mobile again this morning and I ignored the call again but he left no message this time. He then called my office and got through to me and I said I was in the middle of something and would call him back, which I haven't done. I think that from what you all say that this is the best thing to do. Part of me wanted to meet him and tell him that we should just call it a day, probably so I get get rid of the baggage and have closure but maybe that isn't such a good idea?
 
No. Just be unavailable.

He's a user and when he doesn't get what he immediately wants from you, he'll move on to someone else.

You've already had the row with him. He's cut you out of his life to a great degree.

He sounds like an utter waste of effort and if you hang onto him, you must be pretty desperate for 'friends'.

Maybe in about six years or so, if he pops up again, you can sit him down and tell him.

Consider your posting in this forum as your closure.
 
What everyone else said.

And this is a perfect example of why being closeted is so toxic. As you said at the beginning, he's your only "friend" because you don't want to expose yourself to other people. But he's a total jerk, and not someone you would keep as a friend if you were out and had other friends.

Not sure what's keeping you in the closet, but I hope you can get over it. For your own mental health.
 
Where's this friend you allude to? I just see some guy who doesn't mind hanging out with you if there's nothing else going on.

Your "closure" is you drifted apart. Consider it over. You don't need a big "finale" to tell you that. Just go get some real friends. Ones who like hanging out with you, ones that don't give a flying fuck that you're gay, and ones that you don't have to pull teeth in order to arrange a get-together. They ARE out there. :)

Lex
 
well just a quick update. Since Monday when I said I would call him back, I didn't and I didn't hear from him since. On Thursday morning I sent him a brief text to say if u r over this way later and still wanna do lunch let me know. I made it sound like I didn't care one way or the other. I never heard from him. I feel so much better now for having turned the tables on him and let him have a taste of the way he has treated me. I know it sounds a bit pathetic but now he will either not have anything to do with me again or if he does he will realise that he has to start respecting me. Thanks for all your advice guys
 
Let's just hope that he decides he doesn't want anything to do with you again.

This isn't about turning the tables on him and hoping he'll realize what a shit heel he is.

This should be about getting rid of an incredibly toxic influence in your life.

I can guarantee that even if he tried to make nice now, it would only be back to the way it was in about a minute.

Don't text him again. Find real friends.
 
I find closure is always necessary in these kindof situations. Otherwise you tend to dwell on it from time to time. You should tell him, straight-up, you feel you're not as close to him and haven't been for awhile, that it's his fault and you've been trying.
 
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