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Should I kill myself?

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I'm 34, balding, unemployed, gay, never had sex/boyfriend, overweight(but not obese per se).

Had a really rotten childhood and teens and 20ies. Also live in quite small community and country, not rural but small.

I was never actually suicidal in the sense that I would actually make real steps to kill myself but I feel like it's time, since things will only get worse, I can only get older and balder. I can see and feel my body deteriorate, my face changing too, it's disgusting.

I can't think of any reason why I should live. I don't want to think or feel anymore, I thought and felt everything that could be thought and felt by a person like me. At this point I find thinking and feeling about anything tiresome, redundant and pathetic.

All I see in front of me is this gigantic bottomless despair. Do you think it would be good if a person like my should just stop procrastinating and get it over it already?

I still feel a jolt of queasiness and feel unnatural when thinking about it but I think this is just a primitive biological imperative that must be overcome.

How would you suggest to do it? I don't have gun, pills or anything like that, what would i have to do to have a non-botched painless suicide?
 
I'm not sure if I should have written this post, I feel like you will give really dumb answers and you will just speak through your own biological imperatives.
 
Bald guys can be hot, and I like older men. Work out, trim hair, and have confidence to make yourself more appealing :)
 
I think you shouldn't let life knock you down to this level of thinking. I know things in life don't go the way people always want them to, but that doesn't mean anyone deserves to die or kill themselves. You are a good person who bad things have happened to. There are many other people out there who face these challenges and fail. Please don't be one of those people who can't overcome life. If you try and put it in your mind that you're going to make it better, it will in fact get better. You just have to put forth the effort. You're a beautiful person and you deserve a chance to live your life instead of ending it. Maybe go to the gym, or go shopping get yourself some nice clothes. Make yourself look and feel good for you. If you feel and look good for you then you can finally love yourself for who you are and then others will love you for who you are. I hope you make the choice of living life.
 
Please don't be one of those people who can't overcome life.

Nobody can overcome life, I'm just realizing that there is no point in even trying any further. I can't think of anything good or exciting anymore. It is a miracle I endured this long as it is.

You are involved with your life's little occupations by material things and other people. I don't have that so I have a clear picture of futility. I don't think you understand how it is to feel like a zombie every day.
 
Anyway, I'm gonna wait at least until I get done with Mass Effect 3 when it comes out. At least I still feel that much to finish it. It would be a good ending when the game ends.
 
Nobody can overcome life, I'm just realizing that there is no point in even trying any further. I can't think of anything good or exciting anymore. It is a miracle I endured this long as it is.

You are involved with your life's little occupations by material things and other people. I don't have that so I have a clear picture of futility. I don't think you understand how it is to feel like a zombie every day.

That is where you're wrong. I have been alone since I was 11 years old when my dad left my mom to raise me and my siblings. You know who ended up raising them? That would be me! I was 11 raising 3 other kids, one was a newborn baby. I stole the food for us to eat, I had a job and paid bills. I had no choice but to do this because my mom slept on the couch since she was depressed all the time. I got 1 hour of sleep every night before school. I cut myself to ease all the pain and hate I had for people. I never cried I thought many times about killing myself but no I could never let myself do it. I hate that I can be so strong when others aren't. I've been through many things in my life, I'm still going through them today. So don't sit there and pretend to judge me, when you don't even know me. All I was trying to do was help you see that not all things in life are as they seem. Life is what you make it and if you wanna make yours a pitty party and end it, then I won't stop you. Do what you want to do but don't judge me EVER. I've seen and been through things most grown men couldn't deal with! I won't let someone tell me that I don't know what it's like, life is hard so just freaking deal with it. Hope you have a nice day.... :cool:
 
Hedronix, when you wake up tomorrow, why don't you try something new? Say YES instead of NO when someone ask you for help, a favour. As long as it does not break the law or harm another person, do it.

Since you are not working at the moment, volunteer your time and skills to a charity of your choice. Sometimes, it's better to give than receive. I volunteer at a centre that provides services for HIV positive people for 1 evening every fortnight. Serving meals and doing dishes. Very different to my day job in a school library, but I get great satisfaction out of giving something back to the (gay) community.

I think it would do you good to stop focusing on yourself as it's bringing you down and focus on what positive contributions you can make to the world.

Outter appearance means nothing to "real people" and the blind. It's the person you are and your actions that you will be judge by.
 
Anyway, I'm gonna wait at least until I get done with Mass Effect 3 when it comes out. At least I still feel that much to finish it. It would be a good ending when the game ends.

...really?

Are you being serious or you fuckin with us? cause suicide is nothing to joke about. If you are serious I hope you get help.
 
Yeah, it sounds like your life is rather shitty. So what. So are others. Some have it worse. Some have it worse and still persevere.

Why not try and make one little change. You say you're overweight. Being unemployed (like myself) I imagine you're left with an abundance of free-time. Start going for a walk once a day. Then, perhaps, transition into a jog.

It's easy to give-up when looking at the big picture - it's daunting. But when you start to look at smaller parts by themselves, everything seems a bit more manageable.
 
I think most of us have been where you are at but suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I attempted suicide back in the day and I'm so glad I lived through it. There is SO many more people worse off than you. I was in downtown LA and there was a guy with no legs and arms that was homeless. I couldn't even imagine dealing with just being homeless let alone having no arms or legs. There is so many people that would love to be in your shoes. As for your comment about balding being bald is sexy and at 34 that really isn't bad at all. There is guys bald in their early 20's but still bald is sexy. I would suggest calling the suicide hotline at 800-273-8255 or talking to a friend or family member.
 
You are right that no one can feel what you are feeling exactly the same, and it's hard to get inside someone's head to know what other people are feeling. I am curious when you say you feel like a zombie every day, besides depression, do you know of any medical causes, like medications, hormone levels, etc, for feeling that way?

Having said that about not being able to know exactly how you feel, I can relate to your feelings and have dissociation, anxiety, and depression. I am a similar age to you and have similar experiences, and I think for me the two issues i contend with are 1) a fear of change and 2) a feeling that I have lost the years of my life that were supposed to be lived in youth and that pain of the irreversibility of not being able to get that back.

But then again, I've always felt that way at every age to some extent. I've always had a fear of failing, and then I kind of really did fail in a big way in life when I dropped out of college for medical reasons.

I think you and I are similar in that at least for me the courage to find a new way of living is very hard to summon. Because it won't be like the fantasies of what my perfect life should be like.

I talked to my dad today about this very thing--comparing myself to friends who are lawyers and have PhDs. He told me something helpful, which is that you can measure your success by the things I look at, or you can at any moment measure by whether you are adding to life and changing, and counting that as success.

And there is some truth in that because I can remember times where successes that I now feel would be too small to count for anything actually did *feel good in the moment*. So in the viewpoint my dad was talking about, I took it to mean, or expanded on it by thinking, we really are all equal. The idea that my friend with a PhD is better than me is sort of an illusion. Because either of us could be happy in the moment and feeling successful or not (and there are people with advanced degrees, famous actors, etc. who feel not good enough).

It's important to remember that what you want is a feeling, what you feel like you are missing right now is a good feeling, and in my experience, that good feeling, even if it takes months, comes back, even if only fleetingly, and it's worth living for.

Hang around just to observe life if nothing else. We are all made of the Universe, and as far as we know as humans, we are the only creatures in the Universe that get to see it, and think about it, and explore it. Your life would be worth living in my opinion if all you did was sit in a forest staring at trees. Or just staring at your ceiling. It really is something in itself just to see it. And to be honest, that doesn't sound like something that would make me happy at the moment. I'm a bit depressed myself. But we don't have to be happy. Thinking we have to be happy is a source of unhappiness itself.

The bottom line is that the reason to live is that you don't know what will happen in life. You don't know how you will feel. I know it's hard when you feel the anxiety that depression causes in the mean time. For me it is an anxiety--a very urgent driving need to find meaning. And it can make you feel as if you can't find it right now you have to cut your losses. I know the feeling. I think anxiety/depression is a good term for it, even though it might not seem like anxiety.

Since you are in the more active stages of thinking about suicide, it might be time to call an on-call doctor or go to a hospital if actually start to act on these thoughts. It doesn't mean you're crazy, it doesn't mean anything bad about you. It's a part of life that some of us go through, and calling a doctor or going to a hospital is just a way of making sure you eliminate any risks of not surviving this period.

I don't think there is such a thing as a non-botched, painless suicide. You are already living with the feeling of being a botched person in pain. It is terrifying to address feeling like an incomplete, not good enough person. But that is where the courage to be comes in. Do it at your own pace, and look for the help to be able to relax these thoughts as you are able to do that. Maybe you need some medication to help you through this period so you can deal with the feelings of inadequacy in a less urgent, more distant, less scary feeling way. There are quite a few coping mechanisms. Your video game is a great way to dissociate. I have had anxiety, OCD, and medications all as ways to dissociate from the things in my life that scare me, and they all have been necessary to some extent. We can't feel everything at once, and when it becomes too much to feel it, you deserve a way to not feel all that pain at once--and there always are ways to lessen that pain that don't include suicide.

In my opinion, of you, and of all human beings, there is nothing you could do to fail in my eyes. And I believe all human beings are inherently good. Keep up posted.
 
after reading this...I'm having a hard time taking you seriously :confused:

but if you ARE serious, please get some professional help

I take that seriously. He is saying he feels no meaning in life but that he at least doesn't feel so bad he doesn't not care about finishing a video game. When you are severely depressed and in that state, it's good to cling to anything that gives you meaning or pleasure.

To me, it sounds like a very honest expression and what the hopeful thought of someone who is suffering with depression would say.
 
so what you think your the only one who had/has a bad life.

NO your not, many people do, the ones that give up on everything are the ones that take that route.

There is so much to do/see in life, you have the power to make your life what it is. Some times you just need change from the deadend place you are stuck in. It's up to you to decide what changes you need, be it a new job, city,house. There are kids that need mentor's were you can make a differance in someones life, that will make you feel better about your self and happy that you are making a differance in helping someone out. Donating your time, skills many things to do.

So get some help and see what you can do about your issue's, and I hope you feel better about your self. There is something your life can contribute, I wish you well.

And read my motto below:: I live by this and when I had hard times. A very dear friend who passed away told me this and I live by it now. I call it---> It's in the windand I use it as my signature hope it helps you..
 
Well i guess everyone has been through that point in his/her life that it just sucks. So work out which increases your chance of finding a job. This may sound stupid but i want to fuck every hot guy i see. Which is pretty impossible.

So my point is get a goal which you would want to achieve and don anything for. Committing suicide takes everything in your life away all the beautiful memories and good emotions. Go back to your parents if your really really deep down. I was depressed for quite some while and i thought about it too but then again i thought about everything i would leave. Only search for the people who care for you and love you. If you want to have a BF go to bars.

So you should this

. Workout (I do sit-ups crunches and push-ups)
. Attempt at finding a job
. Go to bars (Find a BF)

This may sound really bad but i promise you it will solve your problems. If you can reach really good looking part you can do porn etc
 
And by killing yourself you will never meet your BF and i see this as my only chance at living my dream. The minute you kill yourself people will be thinking , Why ? And thats the point i want you to leave all points why you should end your life

Why suicide ?

.Fat (Not Obese) Can be solved
.Boyfriend Can be solved
.Work can be solved

Why not commit suicide

Life can be beautiful but it has it hard times
Your problems will get solved over time
And you don't leave the people who actually care
 
You should do like i did, take all this energy and focus it on changing the things about yourself that you don't like. What do you have to lose?

Trust me when i say eliminating negativity out of your life, whether it be the drama at work, with your friends, family, whatever, it WILL change things for the better. And as far as mistakes and experiences you've gone through in the past... leave them where they lay. Drop the baggage, as hard as it is to do. dont let ANYTHING or ANYONE run your life but you
 
onetwothreefour, you really sound like a duplicate of me, especially this bit:

2) a feeling that I have lost the years of my life that were supposed to be lived in youth and that pain of the irreversibility of not being able to get that back.


which makes the whole thing even more banal and pathetic.

I would really have to become a completely different person to not feel like I do, do you realize that I don't even have a single friend or acquaintance, I don't even have a cellphone because there is not single person that would call me or that I would call, I can't even remember when was the last time I used a phone or talked to a non-store person.

I even avoid going outside because whenever I see a cute young guy I feel a deep gut-wrenching pain, I'm sure you know the feeling well. My whole life has just been about deprivation. I can now say that I totally understand why deranged people of all kinds and serial killers exist.

I'm at a dead-end, I'm too old for anything and it can only get worse, there is no sense to fool myself any longer.
 
onetwothreefour, you really sound like a duplicate of me, especially this bit:




which makes the whole thing even more banal and pathetic.

I would really have to become a completely different person to not feel like I do, do you realize that I don't even have a single friend or acquaintance, I don't even have a cellphone because there is not single person that would call me or that I would call, I can't even remember when was the last time I used a phone or talked to a non-store person.

I even avoid going outside because whenever I see a cute young guy I feel a deep gut-wrenching pain, I'm sure you know the feeling well. My whole life has just been about deprivation. I can now say that I totally understand why deranged people of all kinds and serial killers exist.

I'm at a dead-end, I'm too old for anything and it can only get worse, there is no sense to fool myself any longer.

Why did you join JUB? Why did you post this thread? I can only hazard a guess. It seems to me that you joined JUB because you, like most people, want to feel connected to other human beings. I also suspect that you started this thread because you really don't want to kill yourself and you want us to tell you why it is worth it for you to go on living.

Understand, none of us can change you, only you can change yourself. We don't know how you arrived at this point, or what it will take to get you to make more of your life than you have up to now. We can offer some advice, it's up to you to decide whether to take it.

So, here is my two cents. You cannot change the past, so don't bother wasting time dwelling on what could have been. You are still young, there's no reason you cannot find happiness and success (assuming you can must the courage and energy to make it happen). I'm not a firm believer in psychological counseling or therapy, but in your case it certainly can't hurt.

Most important, you've got to decide whether you are going to start living. Forget the damn video game. Get out and talk to people (but not with this "gloomy Gus" attitude). Go to a gay bar. Who knows, you might end up having sex. Good luck.
 
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