Should parents be able to abort gay children motivated by prejudice?

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

human race of awsum lands got figa one day in any million dots

wot is life ans if life is kool

then fukc sake sort ya self out

or give populations papas declare how much shit they a got a suck a awsums wot a eons never endin no figa shit

thankyou

 

[zoltanspawn]

Aborting a foetus "because it will probably be gay" is disgusting and appalling, but it does fall under the umbrella of CHOICE. My thought of a "baby that will grow up gay" is that such a fact is exceedingly trivial - "It is what it is" - but for those who HATE THE GAY, it may not be trivial at all, and they may see it as a "handicap or defect" tantamount to conjoined twins, or Thalidomide-type birth defects, or spina bifida.

Do you feel that aborting a fetus because it is female also falls under the umbrella of choice?

In many places around the world, this isn't a thought experiment as we are having here. Female fetuses are aborted because they are female, and in no small number.

I believe there is a compelling reason to place a real restriction on gender selective abortion because I have the strong sense that it violates a fundamental human right: that we humans enjoy a natural right to be female, without any interference or limitation. I think the same is true of being gay. We humans have a natural right to be gay that is more fundamental than a parent's right to hate gays. If a parent didn't want to run the real risk that their offspring might be gay, then they ought not run that real risk in the first place.

I don't think the freedom to choose should be absolute.

 

[bankside]

My initial response is NO....but what's the alternative? Sentencing a child to be raised by parent(s) that don't want him/her? Forcing a woman to carry to term a baby she doesn't want? Where's the line between personal freedom/responsibility and basic human dignity? It's a tough call, I would hope anyone who could be so cavalier about creating a child, wouldn't procreate in the first place.

Agreed on all counts. It's a very grey area, that.
-d-

I have an idea. Sterilise the homophobic parent(s).

 

[bankside]

Such an ideal is virtuous, but is not a viable policy. All it would do is force duplicity on the part of the doctor and the pregnant woman. Unless abortion is going to be limited to medical reasons, then a pregnant woman will simply give some other excuse to abort.

Banning anti-gay abortion would do all the things that pro-choice activists complain about now when a law intrudes on freedom of choice: it would restrict care to pregnant women, it would put doctors at risk of prosecution, it would force the activity underground and create additional risks.

The question is do we care if any or all of those bad things happen to homophobic doctors or women who abort their own gay foetuses?

 

[zoltanspawn]

Such an ideal is virtuous, but is not a viable policy. All it would do is force duplicity on the part of the doctor and the pregnant woman. Unless abortion is going to be limited to medical reasons, then a pregnant woman will simply give some other excuse to abort.

What is the less idealistic/more viable alternative to prohibiting abortion on the basis of gender/sexual orientation?

You are recognizing a sad fact: that all around the world females (for example) are aborted simply because they are female. This happens in place of legal prohibitions. Women and doctors are complicit in illegal abortion of pregnancies because the embryo is female.

Is there a more effective way than a legal restriction to prohibit such disgusting bias?

 

[zoltanspawn]

The question is do we care if any or all of those bad things happen to homophobic doctors or women who abort their own gay foetuses?

I care if homophobic doctors and anti-gay parents are faced with the reality of non-existent, bad or second-rate medical care.

I just care much less about that than if a kind of people are deliberately eliminated for bad reasons.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

gay mean abortions then ? 1st world gonna vote clause ta new word ins block?

anyway

alway a swesoums is

thankyou

happy parent day wen find wot it mean no a rush plenty species workin da wheel good

ha

 

[bankside]

I care if homophobic doctors and anti-gay parents are faced with the reality of non-existent, bad or second-rate medical care.

I just care much less about that than if a kind of people are deliberately eliminated for bad reasons.

exactly. agreed

 

[80KGold]

One of these days, I'll meet a swell guy and we'll get married. We'll have a rainbow-colored picket fence out front of the house. We'll have two shih tzu's, both male, and they'll be gay.

And via surrogate we'll have two children. Our daughter will be a lesbian, and our son will be gay. And we'll love the hell out of both of them... 'cause gay children are awesome!

 

[Draven]

So basically a test that gives the parents justification in the ending of a life or unlife for all of you overly technical PC people.

 

[medic1]

So basically a test that gives the parents justification in the ending of a life or unlife for all of you overly technical PC people.

^mate .
There is justification and then there is justification .
What is so overly political correct about deciding to terminate the chance of a full and rewarding life of your own potential child because they may be LGBT ?

 

[blackbeltninja]

I have an idea. Sterilise the homophobic parent(s).

In an ideal world I'd want more than just homophobes sterilised.

-d-

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ Definitely! Sterilisation is painless. I know a guy who says he "pulls double the number of chicks" since he had the op.

 

[Adrock-JD]

Aborting gay fetuses is the least of the problem.

The anti-abortion Christians would force parents to have the gay children and then put them in concentration camps and gas them if they have gay sex.