Should they shoot down the N.korean Missile

[Ekim23]

i'l go with NO just coz I decided so...


But as I read... even if they launched it, there's not a huge risk...

 

[levenshulme31]

I voted no as I assume they will be firing it either into their own territory or into the Pacific, well away from anywhere it could do any harm. If they fire it at a pecific target city then by all means shoot it down.

What would be America's reaction if North Korea (or any other country) said they would disrupt the testing of America's latest military toys?

 

[White Eagle]

I'll say yes if, like above, the missile is directed at any city or country.
No if it is going into their territory or the Pacific. We don't own the world, altho some people think we do.

 

[Glafna]

The poll is quite sad, when I look at it. It doesn't take variables into account, such as what kind of missile, what is it's destination, why are they firing it, and etc.

I must say, that I'm not surprised that there are 5 yes, and only 2 no.... and only the 2 no explained their decision.(I did not vote)

 

[crzyrazn]

Even though it is highly irresponsible of North Korea to launch the rocket (Taepodong-2), even if for purposes of satellite technology, especially ahead of a UN resolution that bans North Korea from engaging in ballistic missile tests, my take on it is if they are going to proceed with the launch - No. It is true that we can't deny North Korea's right to exploration, however, the North continually provokes mistrust. It is difficult for the region to discern the true intentions of these tests when the North refuses to cooperate with international regulations and inspections. But, shooting down the missile seems the only way to deal with North Korea since every diplomatic sanction has been used against them, and ignored. Still, Japan should wait and see what happens, and move for further sanctions, maybe even with the support of China and Russia. I don't understand why these two powers aren't wanting to cover their asses, because any missiles from North Korea can definitely reach their countries. But I hope the North understands that a fuck up will lead to a war they can't possibly hope to win.

 

[opinterph]

what kind of missile

Three-stage Taepodong-2​

what is it's destination

Unknown​

North Korea missile base could target U.S., analysts say​

why are they firing it

Stated reason: satellite test​

US deploys warships as North Korea prepares to launch missile​

 

[White Eagle]

I'd like to clarify my yes vote.
I've been thinking and I believe it is up to an alliance to decide to shoot or not. It should not be the US alone.

 

[Kulindahr]

Interesting situation -- if they really are trying to launch a satellite, shooting down the missile would be silly, except that a successful launch would still prove the ability to launch ballistic weapons. On the other hand, if it gets shot down, that proves that whoever shot it believes the test could show that N Korea has the capability of launching ballistic weapons, which is just as good a result for N Korea. Either way, N Korea gains respect/fear for having shown it can deliver nukes at long distances. So for propaganda purposes, they're in a win-win situation.

My gut reaction is if it doesn't wander over anyone else's territory, leave it alone; if it does, the decision is up to those whose territory it crosses.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

Republican conservatives really piss the world off and get the rest of the world nations to hate us. They give America the negative image that America has the right to police the world.

My Vote: NO

 

[Lostlover]

We shoot missiles all the time and are developing the missile system and yet now that Russia is bolstering it's military we have to be concerned?

 

[jackoroe]

Shoot it down. We could use the anti-missle shoting practice in any event. Then the Pot-Bellied communist pig, that runs the garbage dump known as N. Korea, can jump up and down and stamp his little feet.

 

[crzyrazn]

I'd like to clarify my yes vote.
I've been thinking and I believe it is up to an alliance to decide to shoot or not. It should not be the US alone.

Republican conservatives really piss the world off and get the rest of the world nations to hate us. They give America the negative image that America has the right to police the world.

When a volatile country such as North Korea begin experimenting and troubleshooting missiles with possible nuclear consequences, I don't think this is wrongful US intervention or unfair international policing. Japan is already up in arms, and even Russia has tried talking North Korea out of the launch tests. The region, nor the globe, needs another nuclear capable power, especially the deranged North Koreans. In that respect, we (that is the US and all concerned nations) do have the right.

 

[TX-Beau]

That theory leads to us invading their country to remove their leaders because they might in the future become a threat to us, while we're at it we can bring them democracy and freedom. We'll be greeted like saviors.....

Wait, we've heard that before.

 

[TX-Beau]

Committing acts of war and calling it a deterrent is a good way to ensure they keep trying to build long range ballistic missiles, no matter who is doing the shooting.

 

[White Eagle]

Interesting situation -- if they really are trying to launch a satellite, shooting down the missile would be silly, except that a successful launch would still prove the ability to launch ballistic weapons. On the other hand, if it gets shot down, that proves that whoever shot it believes the test could show that N Korea has the capability of launching ballistic weapons, which is just as good a result for N Korea. Either way, N Korea gains respect/fear for having shown it can deliver nukes at long distances. So for propaganda purposes, they're in a win-win situation.

My gut reaction is if it doesn't wander over anyone else's territory, leave it alone; if it does, the decision is up to those whose territory it crosses.

Yeah, that is what I mean.

 

[Ekim23]

even if it matters to those countries, its still a real important decision and news...

And it's just reacting about that, I guess every country has its problem, but still

 

[Kulindahr]

We shoot missiles all the time and are developing the missile system and yet now that Russia is bolstering it's military we have to be concerned?

Um... what has RUssia got to do with this????

Shoot it down. We could use the anti-missile shooting practice in any event. Then the Pot-Bellied communist pig, that runs the garbage dump known as N. Korea, can jump up and down and stamp his little feet.

Yo, Jack... your typing was a bit sloppy, so I fixed your boo-boos. Tired?

I think it would be the Japanese shooting it, from the material linked in the thread. I wouldn't mind seeing them do that -- N Korea said it would consider that "an act of war", but it seems to me that Japan has every right to consider an unfriendly neighbor's missile crossing its territory an act of war.

So would N Korea actually go to war over such a thing, or is this bluster? If it's bluster, do they expect to look good afterward, if Japan shoots it down and they don't go to war? Or are they hoping the U.S. will shoot it down, and they can pretend to be statesmanlike by refraining from acting when (they claim) an act of war has been committed against them?

IMHO, N Korea does nothing that isn't aimed at propaganda, either for home consumption or abroad -- mostly home. So my question is this: What are they trying to prove to their [STRIKE]serfs[/STRIKE] people?

 

[crzyrazn]

That theory leads to us invading their country to remove their leaders because they might in the future become a threat to us, while we're at it we can bring them democracy and freedom. We'll be greeted like saviors.....

Wait, we've heard that before.

Don't be supercilious. No one suggested invading North Korea. As if it were an option just sitting in the medicine cabinet to be taken on whim over a headache. Under UN sanction, the only one interpreting shooting down that missile is North Korea (well, and you it seems). But what do you suggest? Allowing North Korea to perfect possible weapons of war? Diplomatic initiatives have already been taken against North Korea, a show of force has been avoided so far, so how do you deal with a country bent it seems on unsettling regional peace? While more stringent sanctions could break their insistence, North Korea has already shown it won't desist. Maybe calling their bluff will. But that remains up to the powers that be in that region, but certainly will not want for US support.

 

[TX-Beau]

And what is shooting it down going to accomplish?

nothing at all except give them justification for making more...

...but but but they'll be so afraid that we shot it down they'll quake in their jackboots and immediately cease...

Right.

The Bush doctrine doesn't work and that is indeed what you're advocating.

When a volatile country such as North Korea begin experimenting and troubleshooting missiles with possible nuclear consequences, I don't think this is wrongful US intervention or unfair international policing. Japan is already up in arms, and even Russia has tried talking North Korea out of the launch tests. The region, nor the globe, needs another nuclear capable power, especially the deranged North Koreans. In that respect, we (that is the US and all concerned nations) do have the right.

By all means let's cuff off our nose to spite our face. We'll all be noseless in our righteous indignation and won't that be fun.

 

[crzyrazn]

What is backing down, and allowing them to proceed without impunity, going to accomplish?

Nothing at all except give them justification to make more.

Your argument is a double edged sword that falls both ways. We move to intercept, it's war the North claims, and they continue with direct attack and proliferation. We do nothing, and we lose face to the North Koreans and their increasingly hostile acts. Read.

Any action to be taken in the UN council faces opposition from China, which is being uncooperative by not interfering with the much more considerable influence they have in Pyongyang than the rest, and Russia, which sides with China against Western influx in the region. Japan will have to decide since it's interest are more viable than the US's in that region. So if they decide to shoot it down, I hope the US will support them, which is more than a positive, and check the Chinese and Russian in their tug-of-war. No one wants a war, and the North is a sad excuse for Russia and China to claim that path.