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Signaling possible defeat of TPP, house votes against helping workers to help American workers

evanrick said:
DEMS WHO VOTED FOR FAST TRACK

Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)
Tim Kaine (D-VA)
Claire McCaskill (D-MO)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
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This addresses a key problem with Corporate Democrats.

If any of them are on the 2016 presidential/vice-presidential ticket … I may vote outside the two parties.
 
i dont think local unions lobbied senator cantwell or murray as much as they could have??'

every major union in the us is against TPP

republicans and corporate criminals are against YOU
 
frankfrank said:
They just flushed the toilet.

The United States is swirling in the bowl, and going down...forever.
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Disagree. The opportunities are better than they have ever been...for those willing to compete in the new economy.

The days of getting an upper middle class salary for an unskilled labor job are gone and those are not coming back.

Instead of fighting for that and pining over what has been lost, if people would retool and get the skills they need to meet the demands of today, they would do much better. There are over 5 million job openings in the USA, the highest in 15 years. http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/09/news/economy/us-job-opening-highest-in-15-years/

All you need to do is look at what is in demand and then meet one of those needs.
 
hotatlboi said:
Disagree. The opportunities are better than they have ever been...for those willing to compete in the new economy.

The days of getting an upper middle class salary for an unskilled labor job are gone and those are not coming back.

Instead of fighting for that and pining over what has been lost, if people would retool and get the skills they need to meet the demands of today, they would do much better. There are over 5 million job openings in the USA, the highest in 15 years. http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/09/news/economy/us-job-opening-highest-in-15-years/

All you need to do is look at what is in demand and then meet one of those needs.
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You mean like the millions of college students who went into computer science based on incessant television ads about the "infinite demand" in that field, shortly before the dot com bubble burst?

Everyone I know who graduated in that field based on it appearing to be the "smartest career choice" at that time went 2+ years out of school before securing any work.
 
xbuzzerx said:
You mean like the millions of college students who went into computer science based on incessant television ads about the "infinite demand" in that field, shortly before the dot com bubble burst?

Everyone I know who graduated in that field based on it appearing to be the "smartest career choice" at that time went 2+ years out of school before securing any work.
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Um computer science/software development is one of the most in demand fields right now.

That's what my degree is, and the last time I posted my resume looking for a new job (in 2012) I had one within 6 days.

The dot com bust was ages ago.

If you have a CS degree and actually know a thing or two about building software then you are in a very good place right now.

But in relation to what I said above, what you want to be doing is looking at what employers are saying they need, not listening to television ads. There are 5 million job openings. Find out what kind of candidates are needed to fill those jobs.
 
hotatlboi said:
But in relation to what I said above, what you want to be doing is looking at what employers are saying they need, not listening to television ads. There are 5 million job openings. Find out what kind of candidates are needed to fill those jobs.
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5 million job openings under which conditions? Most of them part-time, with low wages and very few guarantees. It's not a matter of how many jobs there are, but what should be discussed is what is the quality of said jobs and do they allow the people doing them to actually survive.

Your reasoning is simplistic and it seems to imply that, if people are not successful, it is because they don't want to be, when in reality most skilled jobs are scarce and there already is an excess of qualified professionals - whereas semi-qualified and unqualified jobs are being subjected to increasingly lax labour laws to ensure low costs and maximization of profits, at the expense of the workers' livelihoods and dignity.

Also, since when do people earn middle upper class wages for unskilled jobs? Because if it were like this, extreme income imbalances wouldn't exist.
 
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