Since we'll never get over double standards...

[Krakenbwool]

...let's just have freedom of expression for everyone.

If a Christian church wants to hold a "burn the Koran day," we should hold a "burn the Bible" day.

If a football crowd can chant "faggot" at the opposing team, we should chant "wetback," "gook," or "nigger" back.

It's gotten to the point that trying to enforce political correctness is a futile effort. Trying to teach empathy to the unempathetic is useless simply because some people are proud to be ignorant, sociopathic assholes. Hate to be the one to say this, but sometimes the only way to get a point across to people is to sink down to their level and figuratively speak to them in their own language. Because sometimes the only thing that ignorant dickheads can understand and respect are metaphorical fists to their faces.

 

[gsdx]

sometimes the only way to get a point across to people is to sink down to their level and figuratively speak to them in their own language.

The only problem with that is that many people don't realise you're sinking to their level. They think you're already belowit.

 

[Poozy1]

All hatred does is give birth to more hatred
Calm down for a bit.

 

[Krakenbwool]

The only problem with that is that many people don't realise you're sinking to their level. They think you're already belowit.

That's my point. If they take the bait and actually point it out, I can therein explain the hypocrisy in the offense that they have taken. Because pointing out hypocrisy can sometimes be the best way to force people to re-evaluate themselves. It's not necessarily about trying to prove that I am right, but that they are wrong. Rules of debate.

 

[gsdx]

I can therein explain the hypocrisy in the offense that they have taken. Because pointing out hypocrisy can sometimes be the best way to force people to re-evaluate themselves.

Hypocrites will see the hypocrisy of others when it is pointed out to them, but they will never see the same hypocrisy in themselves.

 

[Krakenbwool]

Hypocrites will see the hypocrisy of others when it is pointed out to them, but they will never see the same hypocrisy in themselves.

They won't ever admit to it, but I think they at least think about it for a moment in their lives. My point is that trying to stop people from expressing the way they feel doesn't change the way they feel. Locking a tiger in a cage doesn't keep it from thinking about wanting to rip your face off, and if by chance it manages to find a loophole and escape, it'll rip your face off. Getting it to not want to rip your face off in the first place is what works.

I'm not sure if this has anything to do with my original post, but I'm trying to get at a point here...not working? I know. Bad analogy.

I can see the point that you're trying to make, but I cannot see this approach being effective on a large scale. I think it would actually create chaos.

Yeah, I know. This is just culminating exasperation and bitterness finally surfacing in a moment of passion, complete with it being late at night. By next morning, I will be embarrassed that I have posted this.

BTW, I call this the "Malcolm X Reactionary Approach" to civil equality.

 

[Krakenbwool]

Speaking of how pointing out hypocrisy can cause people to re-evaluate things...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJtjqLUHYoY[/ame]
I know that won't be everyone's reaction to that question, but to know that some people are actually thinking...that warms my cold, cynical heart.

 

[Hellax24]

I don't really ever call a thread Idiotic, but this one i will.


CXXX

 

[Orlandude]

The only problem with sinking to someone else's level is that you will always find another level below that one. It is far better to lead by example with the hope that people will rise up to your level of what is right and what is wrong. You will never bring everyone up to that level, but those who are left behind will eventually sink in their own cesspool of ignorance, hate, etc. Life is too short to worry about those chromosome-deficient, examples of society.

Well stated.

 

[Krakenbwool]

Chaos was what "started" the gay rights movement and a lot of ultimately progressive movements, in the first place.

A few dots can be connected, but I wouldn't quite fully equate it to Malcolm X's approach (which was ever-changing, by the way, all the way up to his death).

I'm ever-changing, too. One minute, I'm all, "Why can't we get all get along and dance under a double rainbow?" and the next, I'm all, "I will punch you in the face if you say that again."

Oh btw, if anyone is thinking of taking my horrible "advice," DON'T. My original post was merely a metaphor for a more enlightened point. Which I'm not even sure exists.