so i think my bisexuality just leaned towards girls now...

[azndude89]

before tonight, my bisexuality was learning towards the guy more, however tonight, i realized that i dont like sucking cock and fucking a guy....so girls, come to papa!
- though im still attracted to guys- just dont think ill consider doing anything sexual anytime soon...

thats all i have to say...

 

[andyridedick]

how did u do it? leaned towards girls?

 

[TheRoyalGoat]

It's really weird, but my entire life I never had any attraction to girls. Even when I was 7 and playing doctor it was with boys. But in the last year or so I've started seeing women differently. Kinda sexually, and I'll watch straight porn from time to time and it's pretty hot. I think if I knew any girls around here that would be cool with experimenting I would just to see if it's better than it was in highschool.

 

[tonyboy]

An, bi guys..
Well my friends.. fine if you want to mess around with girls or guys..
But please, don't marry a girl if you figure you may go back to guys.. not quite fair to the girls now is it?

I don't care if someone wants to go back and forth sexually between girls and guys..

So many times I've seen guys that say they are bi marry a girl and then revert back to guys..
Does not matter to me a bit if you want to fool around with both sexes..
Just please don't figure you are in love with a girl, then marry her, and God forbid have a child.. then revert back to guys.

I've always figured that the guys that cannot decide if they are 100% gay have the toughest time in this world.
Yep, I've written to many of them via jub.. and they usually figure they have the best of both worlds... well that may be so to some extent..
But I pity them too..
They are between two worlds.. It's all fine if they are just out for sex... and not looking for a LTR..
But it's a pity for the guy that meets a 'bi' guy and falls in love then the 'bi' guy decides he wants to go for a girl..
Maybe he has pressure from family or society.. maybe it's just a preference.

But the other guy will be hurt.. and then the bi guy decides he wants to hookup with a girl.. then she falls for him.. then he figures he wants to go back to a guy relationship..

I'd rather be straight if I had a choice.. but I'm gay. And I thank God that I'm not bisexual.
I think most folks that say they are bisexual may be able to have sex either way... but I'd say that most of them do have a strong perference for one sex or another.

It's tough on the partner of such a person..

 

[AsianDream]

I've always figured that the guys that cannot decide if they are 100% gay have the toughest time in this world.
Yep, I've written to many of them via jub.. and they usually figure they have the best of both worlds... well that may be so to some extent..
But I pity them too..
They are between two worlds.. It's all fine if they are just out for sex... and not looking for a LTR..

I’ve been “pure” gay most of my life – but am now BI and very comfortable with it.

I think being Bi must be very difficult in a sexually exclusive relationship – but then many Long Term Gay couples I know have open or semi-open relationships.

So I see nothing wrong with a BI person being in a relationship with one person (same or different gender) provided they don’t try to be sexually exclusive and it’s all open and above board.

I’m very lucky that I’m in a long term group relationship (MMFF) - this works very well for all of us and in some ways is emotionally and sexually more fulfilling than a more traditional one-on-one relationship.

But there is no “right” model for relationships and I’m sure sexual monogamy will occasionally work for BI people. After all for Straight couples - there's still half the population that they may be tempted by - so it's more a question of knowing if you're actually capable of sexual exclusivity.

I do in fact know some married family guys - that have a stable relationship with their wife - are good fathers to their kids - but do sometimes need to have sex with other guys. In some cases this is open in others their partner doesn't know.

But I also see this in gay couples - I know a lot of guys (like me) into watersports - quite a few have partners who don't share this fetish - rather than this causing a problem in the relationship - most handle this by doing it with other guys - almost always with the full blessing of their partner.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

my soon to be ex-boyfriend is bisexual,supposedly he leans more toward girls.The thing is that we have been together for three years and the relationship has been a living hell, i can't truly say whether we have a relationship or not,and we live together.Thanks goodness i'm gonna get rid of him very soon.i can't stand him any more,but i still have strong feelings for him.
we are constantly having arguments coz he knows that i get pissy seeing him jacking off to female porn and when he tells me that he prefers girls,i get mad at him and tell him to get the f*ck out of my life if he has the big balls to do that.i hold nothing against bisexuals or straights but i do have to admit that the whole idea of having sexual desire for eating a pussy or fondling tits is a bit difficult for me to understand.i ask my boyfriend how come he likes to do oral sex to a woman when more than 98% clearly don't have the least desire to deal with blood,or even vaginal infections,in fact, the majority clearly prefers a big ,hard,tasty cock so that they can rub their 1 cm clitoris with it and of course the guy have to be strong,he can't be soft,nor petit.i don't see any straight female longing the way he does for something that they were born with and that they even consider unpleasant.So no, i don't understand what the longing and the obsession of bi/straight men is all about.

Of course,females know how to boost pleasure pretty well and look for a stronger body type to achieve sexual extasis. Can a man get to that point? i don't think so. No woman (except a lesbian) EVER "suffers" because they miss eating pussy,it's disgusting to them and that's not as delicious as putting a 10 inch hard massive cock in their mouth and having a massive stud pounding them and trying to make them scream of pleasure,while the poor fools can't even emit not even one sound of pleasure most of the time. They know that there is a physical inequality for a reason.Two body parts that don't match at all,different functions,dissimilar shapes,one is flat,and the other is bulkier and so on.A very good asymmetry indeed.

To me, it seems that it is the man who must perform and give to the woman what she wants and in exchange, be eager to receive what she find so disgusting (their body parts),coz heterosexuality functions in that way.They don't give you anything that they find pleasurable and instead they expect you to contradict them so that they may get what they want from you.That's their psychology.Mutuality?!.....my ass!!!.If this is the crap that heterosexual and bisexual men want,good for them.

To my gay mind, females are a totally distinct group apart from men.Asking them to give me their pussy seems to me as if i were trying to feel what it is like to have a pussy in my own body.So i have never felt any desire or compulsion to enjoy a sexual group that i know 100% that i don't belong to.
Most females enjoy the fact that most males don't feel sexual attraction(desire) for his own sex, coz somehow heterosexual men can successfully disconnect from his own sex,put aside their real sexual organs,cocks,testicles,semen,muscles etc and thus block their real sexuality altogether,(which has nothing to do with lesbianism), in their quest for manhood,social status,differentiating themselves from f*gs etc

heterosexual women love to experience some sort of sexual belonging like a gay guy can have with another man.It is at least, a nice illusion to them.Since heterosexuality is so opportunistic like that,i tell my boyfriend that he is too naive.Sometimes i joke with him and tell him that he is a lesbian.He is trying too hard to turn body parts that he wasn't even born with into legit sexual organs.Pussy,vulva,tits,uterus...what the sh*t?!! i even had to google so that i could see what those things look like.they are totally foreign and exotic things to my gay mind.
So my relationship with him,has left me a bitter sweet taste.Hopefully this is all gonna be over pretty soon.
This is why i always advise gay guys to be very careful not to rush falling in love with bisexuals.i still have to find a happy relationship between a gay guy and a bisexual one,so i don't really think that i will ever have a relationship with a bisexual guy again.
i have a friend of mine that was in the same situation than me,and he tells me that the best way to get a bisexual guy love you like a mad dog is to tell him that he is your sexual toy and that you are using him, and not show him any emotion,especially if he is married.His bisexual lover cried....and cried... when my friend finally dumped him.Mine is gonna get a nice surprise very soon too,what saddens me is that i know that he loves me, in his own way,but i can't stretch my situation anymore.

 

[AsianDream]

my soon to be ex-boyfriend is bisexual,supposedly he leans more toward girls.The thing is that we have been together for three years and the relationship has been a living hell, i can't truly say whether we have a relationship or not,and we live together.Thanks goodness i'm gonna get rid of him very soon.i can't stand him any more,but i still have strong feelings for him.

You seem to have a lot of anger for your lover.

Also you don’t seem to have any idea of what being Bi-sexual actually feels like – I see no real difference at all between sex with a girl or a guy – we’re all very much the same.

Anyway – I hope you resolve your current issues – and find happiness in the future

 

[GiacomoPisani]

You seem to have a lot of anger for your lover.

Also you don’t seem to have any idea of what being Bi-sexual actually feels like – I see no real difference at all between sex with a girl or a guy – we’re all very much the same.

Anyway – I hope you resolve your current issues – and find happiness in the future

well yes,i do have a slight anger for him but i still respect him,in fact, he "loves" me, i'm very sure that he does, and we are kind of used to each other.after three years of a crappy relationship,hopefully,i have already found happiness,it is only a matter of getting rid of him,so that my happiness can be to the fullest.
and no,i will have to disagree with you on this one,baby.do not try to sell that having sex with a women is like having sex with a man,because i won't buy it. you know very deep inside of your mind that you don't even believe what you are saying.
and i said, that i really can't understand sexual desire for another sex and completely give up and reject your own,while the opposite sex can't get enough of OUR sex,that involves cocks,testicles,semen,muscles,musky testosterone smell,etc.
could you please give me a logical reason why i should feel sexual arousal for another completely distinct sexual group, that on top of that ,wants my body parts because they consider theirs as filthy and unpleasant? can you explained me how am i supposed to contradict them,and tell this other group...don't worry your pussy is "delicious" or ....you are hot,but my own sex is nasty,cocks are dirty,but hey.... i like what you are so disgusted with and i'm willing to be SUBMISSIVE to you and find pleasurable what you think is unpleasant;or oh!!.... please!! let me have some pleasure with sexual organs that i don't even have a clue how they look like,or taste like,or feel like. i wonder how much of heterosexuality is just willingness to LEARN.
i said that i don't have anything against straights/bisexuals guys,but i do ask these questions to my partner so that i can understand what is going on inside of his head,and all he does is to "eat me alive", and yell at me,he thinks that i'm attacking him.
if there is someone who can explain to us,gay people,how can a person end up being heterosexual, is you the bisexuals,coz you are very close to us.The sensitivity to pussy,tits,uterus fluids,etc that straight/bisexuals have,gay guys don't have it,we are "unsensitive" to them,so we could never be receptive to them and use them for sexual purposes coz our brains simply do not consider those body parts as legit sexual organs at all.Pussy is for insemination and giving birth,tits are for breastfeeding, that's the function those parts have for a gay guy.It does seems that straight/bi guy goes even further and use them as sexual organs,such as performing oral sex,fingering and fondling.i wonder what makes you enjoy doing this more than a straight female does.you know they want a big,muscular,hard body with a massive cock,then... why would you want to prefer the very opposite,small,soft,petite,weak,and so on.The very things that they consider that do not give as much pleasure as a hard cock.
if men and women were to feel the same,our organs would be exactly equal,and they aren't.do you consider frotting a 10 inches cock and a 1 inch clitoris like feeling "the same"? i don't think so.
be realistic sweetheart,be very realistic coz remember that the social programming is strong and powerful,and very nasty hands are behind all this.

 

[MisterMajestic]

before tonight, my bisexuality was learning towards the guy more, however tonight, i realized that i dont like sucking cock and fucking a guy....so girls, come to papa!
- though im still attracted to guys- just dont think ill consider doing anything sexual anytime soon...

thats all i have to say...

Whoever you choose Just be "safe" and have Fun.. ....

 

[Krakenbwool]

my soon to be ex-boyfriend is bisexual,supposedly he leans more toward girls.The thing is that we have been together for three years and the relationship has been a living hell, i can't truly say whether we have a relationship or not,and we live together.Thanks goodness i'm gonna get rid of him very soon.i can't stand him any more,but i still have strong feelings for him.
we are constantly having arguments coz he knows that i get pissy seeing him jacking off to female porn and when he tells me that he prefers girls,i get mad at him and tell him to get the f*ck out of my life if he has the big balls to do that.i hold nothing against bisexuals or straights but i do have to admit that the whole idea of having sexual desire for eating a pussy or fondling tits is a bit difficult for me to understand.i ask my boyfriend how come he likes to do oral sex to a woman when more than 98% clearly don't have the least desire to deal with blood,or even vaginal infections,in fact, the majority clearly prefers a big ,hard,tasty cock so that they can rub their 1 cm clitoris with it and of course the guy have to be strong,he can't be soft,nor petit.i don't see any straight female longing the way he does for something that they were born with and that they even consider unpleasant.So no, i don't understand what the longing and the obsession of bi/straight men is all about.

If you really feel that horribly about him, you should just break up with him. As much as you want to dissociate yourself from them, the mentality you have towards your boyfriend (and bisexuality in general) is very similar to the mentality that most women have towards bisexual men.

If your boyfriend is deliberately making you feel unloved and/or guilty for not being female, that's probably because he's an ass, not because he's bisexual.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

If you really feel that horribly about him, you should just break up with him. As much as you want to dissociate yourself from them, the mentality you have towards your boyfriend (and bisexuality in general) is very similar to the mentality that most women have towards bisexual men.

If your boyfriend is deliberately making you feel unloved and/or guilty for not being female, that's probably because he's an ass, not because he's bisexual.

we have been together for 3 years, so no, i don't think he wants me to be a female.i think that he is actually 50/50,attracted to both equally.During these three years i been trying to stomach his bisexuality.but that's it, i no longer want this relationship anymore.i'm gonna break up with him,very soon even though i know that he still wants me.i already have a much better relationship with someone i know he doesn't even think it would be possible.
often times i have tried to "force" myself to at least be able to get some pleasure watching a female naked.of course,i'm not able to.i've done it because of him.but you know what..... is not fair.no straight woman would ever sit down and watch another woman having an orgasm and they would never think about licking or fingering a pussy,even though this is a 100% female sexual organ.why would i need to put myself through such an ordeal?
i don't think that my mentality is similar to that of straight females when it comes to bisexuality.i accept it, they don't.in fact, their attitudes are one of the reasons that i wrote what i wrote here.i could never have such a passivity or submissiveness to other sexual group that is not my own.To me is a matter of not putting down my very own kind and letting other people take advantage of us.That's the way i see it.

 

[AsianDream]

could you please give me a logical reason why i should feel sexual arousal for another completely distinct sexual group, that on top of that ,wants my body parts because they consider theirs as filthy and unpleasant? can you explained me how am i supposed to contradict them,and tell this other group...don't worry your pussy is "delicious" or ....you are hot,but my own sex is nasty,cocks are dirty,but hey.... i like what you are so disgusted with and i'm willing to be SUBMISSIVE to you and find pleasurable what you think is unpleasant;or oh!!.... please!! let me have some pleasure with sexual organs that i don't even have a clue how they look like,or taste like,or feel like. i wonder how much of heterosexuality is just willingness to LEARN.

Sexual desires are not based on logic – also there’s really no “Should” about what people desire or what excites them. I only really know BI-sexual women well – but they’re definitely not disgusted by their own bodies and sexual parts.

I think all sexuality is willingness to learn – also that people get a very strong liking for anything associated with strong sexual excitement and orgasm. I’m sure that’s how fetishes work – they get linked in your mind with sexual desire and pleasure. So I think all sexuality is learned

and no,i will have to disagree with you on this one,baby.do not try to sell that having sex with a women is like having sex with a man,because i won't buy it. you know very deep inside of your mind that you don't even believe what you are saying.

I only had sex with guys for a long time and only developed any interest in women after actually having sex with them. Because there is no logic to desire – people find it very difficult to imagine how other people could possibly feel differently to themselves. That’s why straight people find it hard in their own minds to understand gay people – and the other way round.

But there really is very little difference between having sex with men or with women. For those of us (like me) who are very oral – things like kissing, rimming and nipple licking are almost identical. Giving a woman genital oral sex is very much like rimming someone (maybe even hotter) – except for concentrating on their clit.

Vaginal penetration is much the same as anal except your dick is gripped more inside.

I’d never say anyone “should” be BI (or gay or hetero for that matter) – but in general people who are “monosexual” (ie: pure Straight or pure Gay) should at least accept that bi-sexuality is real – and feels just as “natural” to those who are.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

i don't think that i learned to be homosexual.since i was a child i was very horny, i remember that i always use to get a hard-on when i smelled my own cock.since that time i love the smell of cocks and balls.it was that smell that gave me the first impulses to masturbate.i immediately recognized that other guys had the same things that i had, and how they were sexually "mine",how i belonged to them and they belonged completely to me,it was a matter of flesh,just to have the same body parts wow!!!how could i reject something like that so mine.My own body/mind can distinguish between insemination and sexuality,especially involving oral sex. i have never gotten a hard-on with the smell of a pussy,because it is simply totally disconnected from my own body,mind and self.i came to know what a clitoris was, when i was 17 yo.i got to see the first picture of a pussy when i was 20 yo.
but you didn't answer my question yet,why would you have sexual pleasure ,let's say,eating pussy,when women themselves do not enjoy what belong so much to then,obviously it can't be ours, coz we were born with a completely different stuff!!
so you would recommend me that i put myself through the ordeal of swallowing pussy secretions just to demonstrate what? to give a woman the opportunity of sucking a cock because she doesn't like pussy,vulva,clitoris etc. coz she finds them gross? Let me spell to you the name of female sexuality, its whole name is L.E.S.B.I.A.N.I.S.M.
i've said that i have tried to enjoy the opposite sex,but i can't,it is neurologically the way i'm programed.i can touch a pussy,smell a pussy,but it won't be much different than touching or smelling my dog's cock,in other word, it does not sexually arouse me at all.So you talk as if you were one of those who believe that being gay is a choice.Which is not.if bisexuals have their sexuality fluid,that's their problem,to me, my homosexuality is not fluid at all.for the reasons i've mentioned before.Neurological and ethical issues.i'm lobotomized when it comes to be passive and sensitive to another sex except my own.which is the only one i belong 100% sexually and i'm naturally familiar with,not because i wake up one day and i found out that males existed and wanted to know what they had inside etc, like straight girls continually do. i can prove to you that a cock is my legit sexual organ,i can't say the same about females' body parts.
i have a bunch of heterosexual girlfriends,they all agree that pussy is nasty,they openly and proudly say that straight men have no squeamishness. they say so because they think that a pussy is dirtier than a cock,they say that a pussy is wet and a lot more things that if i were heterosexual i would feel very bad about it.you never see this attitudes among gay or lesbian people.then, how would you deal with them if they were to tell you that eating pussy is nasty,that fondling tits full of milk or silicone is gross and not pleasurable at all? ...that hard muscles are way better than soft sagging skin. would you tell them that they are wrong or that they don't have to like the same sex, but the opposite one? How weird eh?!
any sincere bisexual or perhaps heterosexual would tell you that those attitudes suck.they know very well the reasons why their wife or girlfriend prefer to suck cock rather than eat pussy.they know that their wives or girlfriends deep inside their minds think that they are getting away from something that belong to them,pussy,tits,clitoris and getting something much better from their partners,cocks,balls,muscles,etc ,yes or not? of course the poor fools have to prove themselves capable of having pleasure with that which their female partners find gross.What an inverted dynamic eh? am i wrong? should the homosexuals get to the same level of sexual mischievousness?

 

[Krakenbwool]

^ You find pussy gross, some others find cock gross. Either way, there's some for everyone. Live your life. There's no one here telling you that you have to find women appealing. Just accept that others may for reasons of their own. Don't turn this into a "bisexual men don't exist/are evil opportunists" thread.

 

[AsianDream]

but you didn't answer my question yet,why would you have sexual pleasure ,let's say,eating pussy,when women themselves do not enjoy what belong so much to then,obviously it can't be ours, coz we were born with a completely different stuff!!
so you would recommend me that i put myself through the ordeal of swallowing pussy secretions just to demonstrate what

GiacomoPisani

I suspect that like me you aren’t a native English speaker?

But do try to break your posts up into coherent sentences and paragraphs – your “stream of consciousness’” approach is very hard to follow.

Also you really don’t seem to have any understanding of bi-sexuality

You seem totally focused on a person’s genitals – rather than any thought of who they are – believe me – it doesn’t really matter if you have a cock or a cunt – we’re all just human beings.

I'd kind of hope some of the answers from guys on here will make you look at things from a different way - though I guess your three year realtionship seems to be totally dead - but such is life.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

your arguments are the same twisted apologetic ,heterosexual garbage distorting physical and mental reality.first of all i'm not opposed to bisexuality at all. i don't think that bisexuals are evil either,but you are in denial coz you have been too empowered.Manhood is too sweet,it makes you do the unthinkable,even though you know that swallowing feminine hormones and feeling female sexual organs as if they were part of your body (you said they are your other half) isn't exactly the most effective way of masculinizing one's own brain.
but i don't agree with you at all. To say that heterosexuality is the very biological reason that we exist is the very proof of how brainwashed you are. Homosexuals can reproduce without being heterosexuals, but i can prove to you that no heterosexual can get sexual pleasure if they don't choose between lesbianism(for men) or sodomy(for women). i don't have a clue what lesbianism is like, yet how come women know very well my own sexuality,in fact, they love "practicing" it. Insemination is physiological, not psychological,just to remind you.
Your argument about the so called inverted and asymmetric dynamic between a woman and a man is just not convincing at all, i hope that you can realize the difference between having a legit sexual belonging and FAKING a sexual belonging with a sexually dimorphic partner.
don't tell me that a sexually inverted relationship which is only half natural, can be more uplifting that a 100% natural and universal relationship involving two EQUALS. please stop using the words balance, union,etc to describe a pseudo-couple that has different structures and functions.The conditions you are talking about are only had by HOMOSEXUALS. Heterosexuals have disbalance, brokenness. disparity, lack of sexual belonging. This is all due to sexual dimorphism. you don't even know how your so called "other half" (feminine) feels inside or outside. And yet, you are sooooo proud of selling the same all crap that you heterosexuals have been brainwashed with, so that you can REJECT your own sex the way that you have been doing it and will keep doing it.
I never said that the majority of men crave cocks but they should. The whole world can be heterosexual, it doesn't mean that i have to accept what the majority think is good or moral. in fact i don't. i do not consider putting my cock in a female mouth a pleasant thing at all, nor giving them semen for them to swallow a pleasant sexual act. You seem to like to use the majority argument to prove that desiring another sex instead of one's own, the one that you don't belong AT ALL is a pleasurable thing or worse, an ethical thing to do.If i were the only homosexual in the world, i still wouldn't want to become a pseudo lesbian, and if a you enjoy what girls can't even enjoy themselves because they feel that the opposite sex (your sex) has better body parts, then it is your problem,it is your masochism,it is your submissiveness to that other group,and your kinkiness.Much men do it because they associate being with a woman with masculinity and manhood because since they were children they are taught that way.Keep believing that gays and lesbians are gonna buy the heterosexual agenda.And remember,we are a minority,we might be 1%,but we are in the millions.Millions of men and women that have come to realize the truth and the manipulations that you, being in denial, won't ever be able to figure it out.
You said that you don't care if the opposite sex find their sexual organs nasty or not,of course that tells me a lot about the promiscuous sexual activities that heterosexuals like to indulge.
and i ask you again,why to crave something that the opposite sex doesn't crave AT ALL?.what 's the reason for that.Why desire another distinct sexual group and reject your own? Why give up your own sexuality and adopt another different one,that you never even knew before.What is your obsession for having a person with different organs give you a blow job and smell and touch your body.On the other hand, you even find your very own sexual organs not pleasurable,stinky,ugly." ""But of course, the opposite sex have body parts that i can turn into sexual organs coz my own sex is disgusting but the other one is better than mine.And of course this is normal because the majority bla bla bla"""...that's what you got in your head, right?.Guess what ,gays don't think that way,we have a totally different cognition.Our perception of the natural world,morality and ethics is very sharp and well developed.
Devour a woman?hahahaha yes my friend,it is very important for me,and many gays to know the reason why women do not want to devour a woman as much as you like to do (are you a masochist,a fool,way too naive?).You are trying to like the other sex more than they do.Believe it or not,this is the sort of thing that society needs in order to keep the sexual deviancy,and pseudo-homosexual sexual acts going on an on,we are trained to think that this is healthier than the physical and mental conditions that a homosexual pair have.And yes, you are clearly brainwashed if you prefer otherwise.
i have no problem when it comes to distinguish mine vs theirs. you want smallness,petitness,a sexual organ that looks like a gangrene,or an open wound,that so many women say that smells awful,and on top of that you want me to convince me that the reason why the majority of women don't like pussy,is because they don't have to.I think that's reserved for men like you.Women like it big,strong,hard, of course, for boosting as much sexual pleasure as they can while you, the submissive one have to get to learn(forced) how to derive pleasure with organs that you are not made to feel (ghost sexual organs?) and that the opposite sex rejects,how can you crave something like that,who? in his right mind would ever think that if the opposite sex finds their own sexual organs disgusting is because they must be delicious?why contradicting the opposite sex? and give them what they want.no I'm not that submissive to them,nor i find them attractive to get to the point of delighting myself with femininity, (i'm too masculine for that).I often called my partner a sexual scavenger because he finds pleasure with sexually dimorphic body parts that the opposite sex reject.Hopefully gays don't have that condition,we don't want it!! if nature made us have the physical and psychological conditions that we enjoy,then good for us.
Sadly, it seems that you simply don't want to give your own sex the value that it deserve and give your body/mind the opportunity of an genuine naturally made sexuality.Do whatever you want,because i personally don't care if you like to have sex with women,animals,aliens,...i really don't.

 

[Krakenbwool]

@GiacomoPisani I think you have the same problem with heterosexuality that a lot of delusional heterosexuals have with homosexuality. Because you can't fathom why anyone would find it pleasing, you figure anyone who doesn't follow your thought process either is wrong or deluding themselves.

 

[conrad]

I don't like labels but we do use them to make positions plain.

I prefer to call myself ambisexual rather than bisexual simply because I have found that I have been able to be happy and sustain a loving sexual relationship with a man but also with a woman (never wanted and on-going relationship with a woman when I was alreqdy committed in a sexual relationship with a man.

It just happened that I bonded first with the new guy in town, but neither of us ever considered ourselves anything but regular guys.

At a time when I am not in a relationship I find that I could go either way. And though I have been happy in traditional marriage for more than 58 years, I can imagine that I could establish a committed relationship with a man were I free to do so.

Yes, I miss m4m sex, but I also remember fondly my relationships with other women. Life is choices and one IMHO is asking for trouble by too easy acccommodation to the animal urges when one is in a committed relationship

The honorable person still keeps promises made.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

you always twist what i'm saying.Of course, you know that's the only way you can make sense of the bunch of stupidities that you have been saying.And i don't find what i have told you to be a psychoanalysis.Telling you the very reasons why i would never have sex with a woman seems like a f*cking psychoanalysis to you? come on!! you feel attacked because you know i'm telling you the truth.You are in denial.But you do need some real dime store psychoanalysis.Don't worry i will take my time to tell you the truth.
First of all,do not insult me with your artificial,fake and non sexual brotherhood love.YES!!! you have to FUCK a man(and be fucked) in order to know what loving your own sex is all about and what it feels like to be together.Enjoying the smell,the heat,the flavors,etc of one's own sex is just magnificent. You don't know how it is to love another man like you coz to begin with, you don't know how to value and appreciate your very own sex,and how to give it the place it rightly deserves.You don't crave a cock(your real sexual organ),you don't ask another man for it and tell him: "please give what is "mine",i'm hungry for it.i need my sexual organs,organs that i was born actually with,not alien ones".You don't know what is to miss,long,yearn and desire your own sex and being separated from it. Like having a freaking Berlin sexual wall created by males like you to bring us apart,and turn us into what you have become.And you obviously can' t even feel the pleasure and extasis that two man can give to one another,with body parts that are authentically 100% masculine sexual organs,that feel and function in the same way.Sexual dimorphism is what turns you on,......great!!.
ah... by the way ,i find insulting that you say that having sex with another man is like having sex with your father,or your brother etc.I didn't like that line that you wrote. I don not have sex with my father and my cousin for the same reasons that you don't f*ck your mother's old cunt.
Gender has nothing to do with sexuality.Gender is a social construction not a natural one.Human sexuality is not the same as sexual insemination,it can be involved with, though.You can get a woman pregnant even after death.If they store your semen.Sexuality is a desire to smell,taste,have emotional bonds and be receptive to body parts that either have this same shape,function or don't.It depends on the coupling,if is symmetric or asymmetric.
when i say " the sexuality of my own sex". You think that in deluded because you have been told that men's sexuality is to desire women,you called that heterosexuality.But i'm not dealing with sexuality as a behavior but as a topological relation with sexual dimorphism.The existence of two distinct sexualities is topological because if one group were to disappear ,the other "sexuality" would remain the same.So if the female sex were to disappear,i would see no change in my "sexuality" because "sodomy"remains,but lesbianism is no longer something that you can hold on to.
you tell me that i feel hatred for women.you got it wrong!! in fact,i don't really care about them in the least.What i said is because these are the thing that they have told me.I can only roll my eyes and say to myself: "how the heck can heterosexual men have the balls to deal with something like this".I will tell you how....effeminacy,passivity,submissiveness,manhood,macho,real men.etc.Nobody have told you the truth of what it means to get sexual arousal with body parts that you were not born with,swallowing female hormones.etc. that the opposite sex rejects and consider disgusting.But as i told you ,you can stomach anything,of course, except your own sex,the very sex that this poor opposite sex knows how it smells better,and gives more pleasure than the one they got.Nonetheless,you somehow have the ability to use,enjoy those very parts they they would never consider sexually delicious,coz they know they can get something much better out of men's sexuality.Something superior that what they got.And you find this very normal,of course,if the majority of men swallow female hormones to become real men then that's ok.Guess what? i'm a fag.And fags handles thing very differently,with a lot of psychology and with a great deal of caution.
when i say these things is not to attack you,i don't care if you prefer to block your sexual masculine group from given and receiving mutual sexual pleasure and then be extremely open about lesbianism. In fact, the purpose of my original post was to show the most common problem that gay and bisexual men have when they have a relationship.Apart from all political correctness,and saying that gays and bisexuals can have a wonderful relationship etc,we do have to overcome many things in order for that relationship to work and most of the time they fail.You wouldn't think how many gay men have been in my situation.
One of my best friend had a threesome with his ex who was bisexual.He did it to please him.He came out of that situation feeling like a piece of crap.After they came back to their house he had to go to the hospital with vomits and a terrible dizziness.It was his blood pleasure.This is for you to have an idea of what is like for a gay men to have sex with someone with different body parts,and then swallowing and tasting secretions from vulva ,uterus,etc.What he did to her, she would have never done it to another woman like herself, in despite of having the same organs that she was born with.
it 's funny coz my partner has proposed me to get into similar things.I have thought about it.But it is not fair for me to do that to myself,because i'm not a masochist.I have self-respect.I value my sexual group,anyone beyond that,are outsiders.That's the way it is.

 

[AsianDream]

@GiacomoPisani I think you have the same problem with heterosexuality that a lot of delusional heterosexuals have with homosexuality. Because you can't fathom why anyone would find it pleasing, you figure anyone who doesn't follow your thought process either is wrong or deluding themselves.

Krakenbwool: I think you're right - GiacomoPisani does not seem able to understand that other people can have completely different sexual desires to himself - and that sexual desires in general are not based on logic.

It's almost like someone who likes peas and hates brussel sprouts going on (and on and on) about how slimy and disgusting sprouts are together with how amazing peas are.

The reality is - some like sprouts and not peas - and some like both - it's just a matter of personal preference.