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So Many Problems

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Wow, I haven’t posted here in forever but I remember this place being a helpful when I posted here 3 years ago. Lately I feel like life isn’t worth living anymore since I don’t get much enjoyment out of it and I feel really sad or anxious almost all the time. Actually, I think I’ve felt this way for a really long time but I’m usually able to distract myself. But distractions aren’t working so well anymore...sometimes I just can’t stop thinking about my problems and it’s too overwhelming. I’m pretty sure I have social anxiety disorder and have almost no self-confidence or self-esteem...I feel really hopeless about ever getting over any of this. Also, I’m pretty sure a lot of my problems stem from learning that I’m gay. I remember becoming a lot more socially withdrawn after I figured out that I was gay since my first instinct was to hide it.

I think one of my biggest problems is that I don’t really have any friends and I’m really afraid to talk to people. As a result my social skills have been deteriorating and I don’t even know where to start with talking to people anymore. Actually, I do have one friend but I feel like that friendship is also deteriorating because of my problems. I met him on a social anxiety website a little over a year ago and at first I really liked him as a friend because he seemed like a really nice guy and we did a lot of fun things together. Also, since I made it pretty clear that I was gay on my profile, he became the only person in real life who knows I’m gay. We hung out pretty often and enjoyed each others’ company until February, when he started giving me “feedback” about my anxiety issues over email after we hung out.

It started with him talking about how I was too much of a follower when hanging out with him. Other things he mentioned included my handshake being weak, and me acting too girly (though he recently said that he should just accept that I am this way). We talked out these problems over time and he doesn’t give me as much “feedback” anymore but I still get the impression that he feels that way a lot when we’re hanging out. I don’t know if he actually still feels this way or if it’s just my low self-esteem making me think these things. Anyway, I don’t think I would care about these things as much if I had more friends, but I often feel like he’s the only person I can hang out with. I don’t want to lose him since we do usually have fun, but I don’t like feeling this way.

I also get pretty anxious around my roommates when they’re sitting together in the living room as a group. They’ll spend hours in the living room just talking but I usually stay in my room because I’m too nervous to just go out there and sit down for a long period of time. At this point, I think they just assume that I don’t want to do anything with them so they just let me be. I can be better with them one-on-one though. I just finished watching a few TV shows with the roommate I’m closest to and I’ve talked to the others individually as well. But for some reason when they’re hanging out as a group, I feel a lot more anxious around them.

My issues have also started to affect my performance at school. I was a straight A student until this year since many of my classes now require classroom interaction. I’ve been skipping one class for the last month because most classes included impromptu presentations and group work...20% my class grade is for participation so I’ve pretty much foregone that. Another class also has 15% of my mark towards participation and although I do go to that class, I never feel confident enough to participate. I may be pretty close to failing both of these classes but hopefully I can pass them, and then get A’s in my other 3 classes that don’t require much interaction. I have of course realized that avoiding all this social interaction isn’t good for me but I’m far too afraid to do anything else.

All this avoidance also makes me very worried about being able to get a decent job. Most employers seem to want to hire people who have good communication and social skills and that makes me feel like I’m screwed with regards to getting a job...I’m terrified of even going to an interview. I’m in my last year of school and I’m starting to worry more and more about this every day since I don’t want to go back to living with my parents forever once I’m out of school. But I feel pretty hopeless about being able to change anything so I’m afraid that’s where I’ll be in a year.

Wow, I’ve written way more than I expected to write so I’ll leave it at that. Anyway, I’m not really sure how to proceed regarding all of this...anyone have any thoughts? I’ve done a lot of thinking about it but that’s really all I’ve done. Also, does anyone else around here feel this way?
 
Aww D: *hugs*

My only advice would be; go to a counsellor, or a therapist, someone you can unload all your shit and problems on, and they probably know how to help you too. Also, I'm not saying you should completely stop complaining to your friend, but, he shouldn't have to listen to it all. If anything, feeling responsible for a friend's mental state is a terrible feeling, especially when you feel helpless about it. I know that, and no matter how much I want to help, I end up withdrawing.

So yes, take contact with a counsellor, seriously. I too thought that was a bit frightening the first time I went to one, but I felt a huge relief after. Seeing as you go to school, seek out whoever works there. All schools have a councellor.

That said, lots of hugs and I hope your life will get better soon, and good luck *hugs*

(That said, yes, I have similar problems, severe social angst, angst for taking the phone... etc... and I too am really worried about my future. I've been in a dump lately, meaning, those angsts etc has always been there, but lately worse than ever. When I went to the councellor, I seriously cried, and I'm not a weep-y person.)
 
You are not alone no matter how much you think you are. I'm glad you had the courage to post here. You have multiple issues that require interventions. You do not need to be miserable. Please seek professional help. Anxiety and depression can be treated. Social phobia may take some time, but again a professional will help.

The key is that you know something is amiss. Drop whatever classes you might fail. Get a diagnosis so that you and your teachers have something to work with. Having all this on your shoulders is too much to handle. Try to find other friends and try to take one small risk every day. Have you researched Ausperger's syndrome?

My heart goes out to you. There is hope. You have already taken the first steps. Good luck to you.
 
I'm glad you found it in yourself to post. :)

I think you sort of see the overriding problem. Your social anxiety is keeping you from doing well. In interpersonal relationships, in school, and (soon) in the workforce. I don't see "being gay" as necessarily having much to do with it other than it gives you something to hang it on. But frankly, that's neither here nor there.

The main issue is you have an obstacle to you enjoying and doing well at life. And you can "distract" yourself from it temporarily, but that doesn't remove it. It's still there once the distraction wears off. And it sounds like it's grown to the point that you can't simply go around it anymore. Which means you're down to two options.

Don't move. Or go through it.

The problem, of course, is that it's much easier to not move. It's painful to be alone, sure, and to start doing poorly in school, but at least you don't have to confront being in groups, or talking about your problem. But as you remain motionless, your chances of enjoying life are going to keep diminishing...and that obstacle is going to keep growing.

Which leaves you with that one option. That terrifying thought of actually tackling your problem head-on. And it's made doubly terrifying because your issue is, in fact, not being able to deal with people. And that's precisely what you have to do in order to start tunneling your way through it.

First off, your friend. Send him an e-mail. Feel free to copy and paste what you wrote in your original post, or use it as a template. Mention that while you appreciate the feedback, it's got you worried about your friendship. As a fellow "social anxiety guy", he should understand where you're coming from.

Next up, your roommates. Do they know you have social anxiety? If not, perhaps they should be made aware. Talk to them individually. Let them know where you're coming from (you can skip the "gay thing" if you'd rather), and tell them what you'd like from them. When they're all watching TV, would you like them to call you out of your room to join them? Would you like them to include them on some activities? Would you like them to sort of urge you along if you decline?

Then the big one. Therapy. Yes, I think it's necessary. If a problem is big enough that it's severely impacting your social, educational and business life, then something needs to be done. And as skittles pointed out, this is what they do. They're used to dealing with people with your type of problem, and they're good at providing feedback and suggestions to help. So find a counselor (your school no doubt has one - that's a good start) and make an appointment. IF you're terrified about what to say, print out your first post - it was an excellent sum up of where your problems are, and what you think you need to do.

Good luck to you. We'll be your cheering section. :)

Lex
 
I'm gonna have to agree with Lex on this one. You need professional help. Your school should have some kind of counseling center. Start there.

I'm tempted to tell you that you need to act, make a plan and follow through. But from what you've posted, I suspect that's pointless.

I deal with stress by burning it off. You might try that, I'm sure your school has a gym, or just start something simple like running. Endorphins in your brain will make you feel better. Endorphins are wonderful things. This might not solve your problem, but it certainly can't hurt.

Back to that plan thing, if you start acting to make your life better you'll be better equipped emotionally than if you remain paralyzed. So write a goal down, it can be really simple like "get counseling," then follow through. Then keep it up. Then set another goal.

If you are unable to even get that far I doubt there's anything any of us in here can do.
 
I'll respond to the rest of these posts later but holy crap, I just sent my friend an email about some of this stuff and I feel really anxious waiting for a response. I can't stop shaking.
 
You're doing the right thing, e-mailing him (I think - I'd have to see the e-mail to be sure), but the fact that you're stressing about the e-mail this much is further indication that it's time to bring in a professional.

Lex
 
Yeah, I definitely need to see a counselor. I've actually thought about that for almost 3 years now but I always chicken out or manage to convince myself that I'm okay and there's no need for me to get help. But every person here has said that I do need help and deep down I know that I need help as well. Right now my excuse for not getting help is that I'm really busy with school because I didn't drop the 2 classes that I'm doing badly in since they're required courses (yeah, I know it's just an excuse). I don't know if I can handle having more things to worry about right now. I need to stop myself from procrastinating on it though because soon I'll be out of time since school will be over in 9 months.

About the email to my friend...he started criticizing me about something earlier today so I thought that was the perfect opportunity to bring this up with him. I told him that I was getting the impression he still thinks I'm too much of a follower, too girly, not confident, etc. and that I mainly get negative feedback from him, and how that makes me feel like he doesn't really like me as a friend or accepts me. He said that he does feel uncomfortable around me sometimes because I act differently than his other friends. I'm not sure exactly what he means by that but I'm pretty sure it has to do with me being gay since he said this a couple of months ago when there was some tension between us:

"And...I think I'll try to be more understanding and accepting of the way you write and speak...to be honest I'm still getting used to you as a friend because I've never been friends with a gay guy before."

He also said something similar today in his response:

"I don't know...in a way I feel bad that I'm criticizing you so much, but I do get annoyed with some of your actions (just small annoyances, or maybe a better word is uncomfortable) you're a good friend and I like hanging out with you and it's really hard for me to change myself and try to accept you...but it's really hard to do."

I don't know if things will ever actually change with him but I do know that I need to get counseling sometime soon.
 
>>>Right now my excuse for not getting help is that I'm really busy with school because I didn't drop the 2 classes that I'm doing badly in since they're required courses (yeah, I know it's just an excuse). I don't know if I can handle having more things to worry about right now.

Getting counseling isn't "adding something to the stack". It's working on making the stack more manageable. Think of it as...oh, I don't know. Taking time out from a marathon to take off your dress shoes and put on running shoes. It may be a bit of slowdown at the outset, but it's going to make everything else easier after that. Once you start handling your problems head-on, you'll find everything else a bit easier to handle.

Do look into it. ASAP.

Your friend sounds like a good guy. He hasn't dealt with a (known) gay guy before, and he may have some issues with that, but rather than simply pushing you aside, he's trying to work through them. And since you met on a social anxiety website, presumably he has his own issues he's working through, as well. Thank him for sticking with you, and feel free to ask him specifics. Don't feel the need to change for him, though. If he doesn't like your giggle or hand motions or what have you, just shrug it off and say "Yeah, I do that." :)

Lex
 
Run. Do not walk to see a doctor and/or counsellor. I think you also need to consider some other changes and taking something to get your metabolism in order.

In the meantime:

- No Caffeine
- No Fructose
- No msg
- More exercise
- Turn your computer off at 9pm
- No cellphone/texting after 9 pm
- take B12 vitamins

But I think you need something like a mild SRI to help you get back on an even emotional keel.
 
After emailing quite a bit today, my friend doesn't really want anything to do with me anymore. I do need to go see a counselor but I'm so scared.
 
Put your friend to the side for now.

>>>I do need to go see a counselor but I'm so scared.

Examine that for a bit. What scares you? Specifically? Finish the sentence. "I'm scared of going to see a counselor because..."

Let me know if you'd rather deal with this via PM or IM or something.

Lex
 
I'm going to my first counseling appointment ever in 10 hours and I'm super nervous. Wish me luck!
 
for those reading this, end the stigma about counciling.

Look at it this way, say you know nothing about math. Is anyone going to hate on you if you went and saw a math tutor?

Some people are wired differently and aren't born with the natural tools that other people are born with. That's why they go to someone who studied those problems in school and how to help people that have those problems.

We are an educated society. There is nothing wrong with learning from someone else something you don't know.
 
Update: I've been in counselling for a few months now but I don't seem to be making much progress. The counselor suggested that I go to a doctor to get some medication to help me, while continuing counselling at the same time. I'm planning to start Paxil on Sunday but I'm really nervous about it after reading about all the side effects. I don't know if I'll be able to take the first pill since I'm afraid of the unknown.
 
Given the history and that you're in counseling but don't feel better, an antidepressant is appropriate for you to try.

Paxil and other drugs in this class will make you feel weird the first few days. It generally takes a couple of weeks for everything to level off and for your body to adjust.

The side effects aren't nearly as bad as the side effects of depression.
 
I don't know if I'll be able to take the first pill since I'm afraid of the unknown.

Well, you deal with the unknown every day.

Think of it as your Alice in Wonderland experience.

At the moment all you know is depression and anxiety.

Surely you would do whatever it takes to leave this state?

It is likely that your brain chemistry is preventing you from feeling calm and happiness. All paxil is going to do is help balance this chemistry. this will allow you to get the most out of your counselling sessions as well.

I hope that you are also taking the rest of the advice I gave you before?
 
No one cares if there is no drama such as sucking cocks in the change rooms LOL
 
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