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So there's this guy....

On the other hand, if it’s general knowledge that you’re gay, all those interested guys are gonna be far, far, far, (deep breath) far more likely to ask you out.

If you’re in the closet, and you don’t want to admit it, for whatever reason, they’re not likely to.

First, guys who are interested in you DO NOT, make it a point of telling you they’re straight. Closet or not, if he’s telling you that, you need to take him at his word, because on the off chance that he is lying about it, he’s gonna continue lying about it until he works out his issues.

Second, and to reiterate, you have no leg to stand on if you aren’t willing to tell the other guy you’re gay. What are you expecting? He’s gonna have to know at some point or you’ll never get what you want. Telliong him is as easy as saying:

“Yeah, I really liked this guy who…” or some other standard conversational gambit that clears the air while being nicely polite.

Third, stop hyper-analyzing. You don’t know why he said what he said, it could be perfectly innocent, it may mean he wants to be your friend but doesn’t want you hitting on him, it could mean a million things. YOU don’t know, nor are you gonna know unless you ask. So if you won’t ask, and you won’t tell, you have no choice but to take him at his word and believe he’s straight.

Fourth. Don’t let your wanting him to be gay delude you into deciding everything he does means gay. How many times in these situations on this board is the gay guy actually right? Not a lot, and even fewer where the gay guy gets what he wants; because gay men are good at ignoring everything but what they can use to convince themselves they have a chance. Go find some nice out college boys who you don’t have to play angsty games with.

Fifth, don’t go becoming friends with this guy with a sexual agenda. If you’re going to be his friend, be honest about whom you are. He’s not gonna thank you six months down the road when you can’t stand it anymore and hit on him - if he didn’t know who you were in the first place. It’s dishonest to go into any kind of friendship/relationship, hiding hugely important things about yourself.

He never said that he was straight just that he wasn't gay which means he might be bi like me.... ok...I see your point of over analyzing things.

But can someone tell me if I'm willing to tell people if they ask me if I'm gay how is that not out? It's not like I publicly deny my feelings for men while sending out signals that say I want to suck your dick...well I stopped doing that in high school.

And I would love to ask him but this happened weeks ago and I believed he moved friendship or otherwise to another guy in my class
 
But can someone tell me if I'm willing to tell people if they ask me if I'm gay how is that not out? It's not like I publicly deny my feelings for men while sending out signals that say I want to suck your dick...well I stopped doing that in high school and I will do that if the guy has a history of violence.

Because people aren't going to ask usually if you project that you're uncomfortable about it. It's been my experience that people react to how you project. If you feel it's a deep dark secret, they'll treat it as a deep dark secret and gossip happily behind your back. If you treat it as a non issue (and that means dropping it into those early conversations like it's nothing at all), you kill all the drama.

Look, what I usually do when I get tossed into a new social situation, is find the gossipy-est woman I can find, and tell her. Word gets around, and THEN, if people ask you can say yes, and in that situation they will ask, because you told the biggest gossip in the office, or in the class, and didn't care.

Anyway I bet a whole lot of people you know who haven't asked are sure you're gay. The issue is in yourself, not them, if you aren't comfortable having everyone know and not giving a good god damn, you aren't through with the coming out process, and need to work on that.
 
Because people aren't going to ask usually if you project that you're uncomfortable about it. It's been my experience that people react to how you project. If you feel it's a deep dark secret, they'll treat it as a deep dark secret and gossip happily behind your back. If you treat it as a non issue (and that means dropping it into those early conversations like it's nothing at all), you kill all the drama.

Look, what I usually do when I get tossed into a new social situation, is find the gossipy-est woman I can find, and tell her. Word gets around, and THEN, if people ask you can say yes, and in that situation they will ask, because you told the biggest gossip in the office, or in the class, and didn't care.

Anyway I bet a whole lot of people you know who haven't asked are sure you're gay. The issue is in yourself, not them, if you aren't comfortable having everyone know and not giving a good god damn, you aren't through with the coming out process, and need to work on that.

I don't give out that uncomfortable vibe....Ok my mom tells me I give out that I'm gonna kill you if you look at me vibe quite often but that's besides the point. In this case I made sure to give out a comfortable non judgmental vibe Hell I would say I was pretty sure I gave out that I don't care if your gay vibe.
 
Look, people tell me all the damn time that I’m uncompromising, but really, I’m not. I know this but somehow it’s not what people will believe. I don’t know you, so I don’t know what you’re really like, but I can tell you this, if you behave in such a way that you won’t say anything without the caveat of someone first making it a specific point of asking, I’d take that as a cue to avoid the subject. Like I said, you may not be at a place where you can be out with total impunity - coming out is a process, there are a lot of stages; and that would be your issue to work on, but I don’t think you should assume that anyone ever really knows what’s going on in your head and leave it at that. It's asking for misunderstandings to assume people are going to assume. If you want people to know you're totally OK with it, why not be totally open about it? Tell them, ask the guy out, I've done that before, asked a guy out without the slightest clue if he was gay or not. Low probability of success, that.

If it was me in your predicament, the first thing I'd have done was make abso-fucking-lutly sure he knew I was gay, then if he responded positively to that, I'd have asked him out.

You pay your money you take your chances, not every gay guy is gonna be into you, but you NEVER know, if you NEVER try, and life is too short to fill it with regrets. You keep tossing that ante out there, sooner or later, you're gonna get a good hand.

It’s a fine line, and it’s why being openly, totally out is the only answer. I live my life talking about my life the exact same way anyone else does. If I see a hot guy, I’ll say so, if I’m dating someone, I’ll talk about him, if I get invited to dinner, I’ll bring a date, and on and on and on. Because I couldn’t give a tinker’s damn about people who have issues. It’s my life, my terms to live it, and I refuse to hide on any level.

It generates a lovely little piece of karma when you do this, because you discover that people really don’t care much if you’re gay or not, and the ones who do, take themselves right out of your path.
 
Look, people tell me all the damn time that I’m uncompromising, but really, I’m not. I know this but somehow it’s not what people will believe. I don’t know you, so I don’t know what you’re really like, but I can tell you this, if you behave in such a way that you won’t say anything without the caveat of someone first making it a specific point of asking, I’d take that as a cue to avoid the subject. Like I said, you may not be at a place where you can be out with total impunity - coming out is a process, there are a lot of stages; and that would be your issue to work on, but I don’t think you should assume that anyone ever really knows what’s going on in your head and leave it at that. It's asking for misunderstandings to assume people are going to assume. If you want people to know you're totally OK with it, why not be totally open about it? Tell them, ask the guy out, I've done that before, asked a guy out without the slightest clue if he was gay or not. Low probability of success that.

If it was me in your predicament, the first thing I'd have done was make sure he knew I was gay, then if he responded positively to that, I'd have asked him out.

You pay your money you take your chances, not every gay guy is gonna be into you, but you NEVER know if you NEVER try.

It’s a fine line, and it’s why being openly, totally out is the only answer. I live my life talking about my life the exact same way anyone else does. If I see a hot guy, I’ll say so, if I’m dating someone, I’ll talk about him, if I get invited to dinner, I’ll bring a date, and on and on and on. Because I couldn’t give a tinker’s damn about people who have issues. It’s my life, my terms to live it, and I refuse to hide on any level.

It generates a lovely little piece of karma when you do this, because you discover that people really don’t care much if you’re gay or not, and the ones who do, take themselves right out of your path.

I never thought of it that way before.
 
And, Silverwolf, don't forget this part either:
It generates a lovely little piece of karma when you do this, because you discover that people really don’t care much if you’re gay or not, and the ones who do, take themselves right out of your path.
 
Oh, and Lube, this isn't an episode of Degrassi. Not everyone's gona be comfortable with prancing around screaming to the entire world that they're gay every 5 seconds.
What's he gonna do? Go up to people and say, "Hi my names ______ and I'M GAY/BI/WHATEVER! :D"
Coming out isn't always easy, even if you're in college.
That is nothing like what coming out is.

Read more here and you will learn soon enough.

Do straight people come out by saying they're straight?

Then how do you know they're straight?

Think about how straight people come out.
 
I'm well aware of the fact that nobody comes out like that. That wasn't an example of coming out, it was an example of an introduction.

My friend says that when she becomes a screenwriter, she's going to come out to the world as straight. No joke! XD

To explain HOW straight people know they're straight would be to explain how society works, and that's off topic. Straight people make themselves obvious because they have nothing to hide; society tells them that they're the norm. Therefore, straight people don't really NEED to come out. That's all.
 
Straight people make themselves obvious because they have nothing to hide; society tells them that they're the norm. Therefore, straight people don't really NEED to come out. That's all.
Exactly.

And gay people just need to do the same thing. Don't hide who you are or what you do. Don't use generic pronouns.

It's hard at first, but become easier after a while.

I do it every day at work & in social situations. And I'm a consultant, so I change jobs a lot, so I end up doing it over and over again. Just like straight people do.
 
I've just recently come out to my friends. I'm so much more happier because I'm in a setting where everyone knows and those who have a problem with it stay out of my way.

I've also recently told my Mom. She's having a rough time but she'll pull through. My Dad is the problem. I haven't told him yet nor do I really want to... *yikes*
 
I've just recently come out to my friends. I'm so much more happier because I'm in a setting where everyone knows and those who have a problem with it stay out of my way.

I've also recently told my Mom. She's having a rough time but she'll pull through. My Dad is the problem. I haven't told him yet nor do I really want to... *yikes*

I'm glad you came out and are happier now, but what does this have to do with the guy I want? :confused:

Not trying to be mean, and I am sincerely happy for you, just a little confused
 
I had a similar situation with a guy in school until I found out he had a longtime gf. I still can't help but get the "vibe" from him, but I've recently discounted it as wishful thinking.

I am notorious for crushing on straight guys, or closeted gays who may as well be straight. Your chances are very slim for this guy, in all honesty, simply because a lot of pieces have to fall together perfectly in order for it to work out.

Still, I'd keep talking to him. Building a friendship can only help you, and any companionship he's willing to share with you will make you happy. I would let it slip that you're gay though, mainly because if he finds out later he may think you were trying to mislead him or violate his trust in some way.

Plus, it can't hurt to be out to one person at school, if you think you can trust him. It's always nice to have someone to whom you can vent.
 
I had a similar situation with a guy in school until I found out he had a longtime gf. I still can't help but get the "vibe" from him, but I've recently discounted it as wishful thinking.

I am notorious for crushing on straight guys, or closeted gays who may as well be straight. Your chances are very slim for this guy, in all honesty, simply because a lot of pieces have to fall together perfectly in order for it to work out.

Still, I'd keep talking to him. Building a friendship can only help you, and any companionship he's willing to share with you will make you happy. I would let it slip that you're gay though, mainly because if he finds out later he may think you were trying to mislead him or violate his trust in some way.

Plus, it can't hurt to be out to one person at school, if you think you can trust him. It's always nice to have someone to whom you can vent.

Thanks but I think its too late to be friends with him now. My last class of the term was last week and I have no way to contact him:(
 
Thanks but I think its too late to be friends with him now. My last class of the term was last week and I have no way to contact him:(

Oh I totally know what you're going through..my situation is pretty same. I have this guy Im crushing but after weeks of searching for him I finally found him on FACEBOOK without knowing what his last name even is. I got lucky. Can't you do the same, or did you try? Search and maybe you can find your guy too. Good luck, let us know!!! ..|..|:wave:
 
Thanks but I think its too late to be friends with him now. My last class of the term was last week and I have no way to contact him
That sucks! Well, is there any chance of him showing up in another one of your classes? As cheesy as it sounds, if it's meant to be he'll pop back up somehow. :)

Maybe it's for the best, anyway. Not worth the heartache if you started to really like him and he actually was straight. Silver lining?
 
it's a little late but...

"so I looked at the poster again and it was for a girls part. did you realize that?"
 
Oh I totally know what you're going through..my situation is pretty same. I have this guy Im crushing but after weeks of searching for him I finally found him on FACEBOOK without knowing what his last name even is. I got lucky. Can't you do the same, or did you try? Search and maybe you can find your guy too. Good luck, let us know!!! ..|..|:wave:

I got lucky. I know his name since it was in an email addressed to the entire class. But I don't want to come off as creepy or stalkerish
 
If you tie school into it, then it's not creepy at all.

"hey, I added a some people in our class" "or hey, keep in touch" or "hey, I need your recommendation on what professor to take for this class"

What's creepy is if you asked a guy 3 times if he's gay. Oh wait, you already did.
 
If you tie school into it, then it's not creepy at all.

"hey, I added a some people in our class" "or hey, keep in touch" or "hey, I need your recommendation on what professor to take for this class"

What's creepy is if you asked a guy 3 times if he's gay. Oh wait, you already did.

When did I ask him 3 times if he's gay?. He denied it 3 times when talking about kissing other men
 
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