So What The Fuck Did Reagan Do That Was Good?

[KrisHawkXXX]

Ronald Reagan Destroyed unions, was the first president that caused an epidemic of homelessness, cut funding for mental health,

(I'm Sorry But mental health is just as important as physical health. We have a bunch of ignorant assholes who believe mental illness is just imaginary. Maybe Because the Capital System is responsible for poverty and famine which obviously leads to depression in a money-based society? I Know the use of psychiatric drugs and anti-depressants went sky-high during the Reagan administration and would continue to escalate till today) he gave companies rights to lay off employees so that companies could rake in more profit and leave remaining employees with the responsibilities to work harder in terms of doing more work for the same pay and no raise. [A Rising stock market doesn't mean the citizens are benefiting, it just means companies are making shit loads of money!] He lied to the American Public about the definition of communism and labeled a future social structure as an economic system (Which is why our text books are filled with false information and why most people are misinformed and ignorant when it comes to the philosophy of social structures) and helped mask the fact that the Soviet Union was a State Capitalist Country regardless of the terminology used to describe the nation's state. He made it more difficult for people to actually have some true insight to the Capitalist system leaving most people today stupid in terms of thinking that the system is as simplistic as "People having freedom to earn a living and using money to exchange goods and services." It's NOT that simplistic. And Socialism does NOT Mean everyone gets the same paycheck under a tyrant ruler. Fucking Joke. I'm disgusted at the stupidity in this country. We have the republicans and rednecks to blame for this.

Reagan was hated by minorities and was a racist homophobe. He failed to act on the AIDs crisis which was a MEDICAL PANDEMIC (ASSHOLE). He promoted the pathology of organized religion which in reality brainwashes potential intellectuals from escaping a class based social structure.


SO WHAT did Ronald Reagan Accomplish exactly?

The United States, Heart of Global Capitalism, has NOTHING to do with global financial issues and poverty. No, we don't rape the worlds' resources. We don't drill for oil and suck the blood of the earth from the ground, leading to more earthquakes and catastrophic disasters. We take NO responsibilities for the change of water currents and hurricanes. No, we have NOTHING to do with the thinning of the O-Zone Layer. We have NOTHING to do with the fact that more people die due to no/poor health care then injured/killed soldiers in the middle east. But these rednecks have "Support our Troops" on the back of their pick up trucks. America the great, the empire of Capitalism, is just beautiful. We take NO notice that this country is the most VIOLENT society in the world. We are the most SELFISH, Greedy, NARCISSISTIC country in the present day. We suck most of the resources, and BITCH when we pay Less at the gas pump then the British who aren't too fucking fat and lazy to walk/ride their bikes to work or McDonalds. (FATTEST Country In the world)

Long Live Ronald Reagan (Sarcasm)

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

wiki gives a short version

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

Don't You think I would've read that by now?
Gimme ur words at what great things he accomplished.
You're just as bad as JustaPixel and RedRubberBall.

 

[JustJuice]

He made the US one of only 3 countries today to have not adopted the metric system.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

He made the US one of only 3 countries today to have not adopted the metric system.

That benefited society how? Lol

Lets remember, that 25.6% Of all world mental illness happens to be in the USA. But according to Reagan, mental health facilities needed to be dismantled, and with that money corporations and rich people got HUGE Tax Cuts.

 

[NineOfClubs]

He staved off, for a brief moment in time, our inevitable descent into statist, one-government, command economy socialism and slavery.

It was a golden autumn before the onset of a bleak and endless winter...

 

[JustJuice]

That benefited society how? Lol

Lets remember, that 25.6% Of all world mental illness happens to be in the USA. But according to Reagan, mental health facilities needed to be dismantled, and with that money corporations and rich people got HUGE Tax Cuts.

I was being sarcastic about the metric system. I remember the day he was shot (I'm not from the US), we were laughing about it at school. Many people who didn't live in the US didn't understand why he was president.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

He staved off, for a brief moment in time, our inevitable descent into statist, one-government, command economy socialism and slavery.

It was a golden autumn before the onset of a bleak and endless winter...

You're being sarcastic correct? Socialism and government don't co-exist in philosophical theory, both combined make an oxymoron. I don't see how Capitalism isn't a command based system for society. The laborers have no power over the capitalists that employ them, most get paid shitty checks, get no health benefits, and are forced to pay for everything in order to survive. If you don't have a job, you are worthless in society and not seen as a human being. Humans are not humans in capitalism, we are just commodities to earn the elite and the Capitalists power and profit. Our current structure is oppressive as our last structure, feudalism. We are living in an empire that has the rest of the world by the balls because we control the financial market. It isn't because we are smarter, more advanced, or BETTER, it just means we exploit everyone else and act innocent. And if someone were to bomb us for rightfully being pissed off, we'd act like victims and start crying.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

I was being sarcastic about the metric system. I remember the day he was shot (I'm not from the US), we were laughing about it at school. Many people who didn't live in the US didn't understand why he was president.

I was just born during his last year in office. Looking back in history, I don't understand why people STILL admire him. I find it alarming.

 

[NineOfClubs]

You're being sarcastic correct?

No. I'm being poetic.

And, unlike you, able to see the broad swatch of history and the inhumane, cruel results of Marxist rule.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

No. I'm being poetic.

And, unlike you, able to see the broad swatch of history and the inhumane, cruel results of Marxist rule.

There never was such thing as "Marxist Rule." Forget about Marx for this conversation and look at the facts of Capitalism for one second. Your statement is simplistic and lacks any historical let alone philosophical intelligence. The USSR fit EVERY Definition of State Capitalism. Look it up. And Marx didn't believe in people being RULED. This proves my point about how misinformed Americans are. However, I will agree that Capitalist countries that used different terminology did horrible things to their citizens, but its not like we don't do horrible things to OUR Citizens. No, our citizens in a Multi-Capitalist state are treated perfectly. That is why 99% of the Capitalist World is in poverty. Capitalism is such a beautiful thing, knowing that it benefits 1% of the globe at a time. How remarkable. And most people that support capitalism are laborers, NOT Capitalists. Less then 1% of the global community fit the criteria for being a Capitalist because the Capitalists have most of the money, and run the corporations. Having money, a car, a house, or a job doesn't make you a Capitalist. If you have a job, you are controlled by a Capitalist because THEY employ you, determine your health benefits, your vacation time, your wages, etc. Yes Capitalists have NO power over the general public. (THAT is Sarcasm.) CAPITALISTS Control People!


What about the cruel results of how the USA Rules the world? We have done MORE damage to society around the globe then the Soviet Union did to its OWN people TIMES TEN or more! I can list MANY examples of how the USA portrays itself as a tyrant to its own people AND on a global basis.

The only difference between the USSR and The USA was that there was just one Capitalist running the country, the government. Money, the main element of Capitalism, was still used in every False-Communist state in history. Money was still required to acquire survival needs. Other then that, the Soviet Union Still fit EVERY criteria for Capitalism. OUR GOVERNMENT helped paint a distorted picture to the public. Europeans today are far smarter then us when it comes to the history of the USSR.

THE ABOVE is Fact, Not opinion.

Back to the original question, what did Reagan do to better the lives of Americans then and what benefits did his administration bring Americans TODAY?

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

i dont believe he is

everyone doesnt believe as you, kris - you know that tho

Of course I know that. Me and you believe that people shouldn't have to die of cancer because they are homeless, but not all people think rationally like that. At least, I hope you believe in a human pathology that is caring and sensible.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

kris, when it comes to public health care i'm as 'socialist' as you think you are

Socialism has nothing to do with "Free Health Care." In a system called Capitalism in which resources are enough in existence but backed by an imaginary figure that is scare, we should allow basic living essentials to be free of charge. We shouldn't allow the Capitalists that control and dominate society to play a game of "Monkey In The Middle" and determine our living standards. That is highly irrational but for some reason we allow this tyrant-based system to continue because most of us are that unaware and brainwashed.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

nothing is free, my young zealot

I know that. And that is because of the way the system is faulted in favor of power and tyrant control.

Let's get this thread back on topic and discuss Reagan, Please.

BTW a Zealot is a term used for rebellious Jews. I don't believe in organized religion.

 

[taxi_ride]

Militarily Reagan strengthened Carter's weak and fairly useless military breaking the lull in support after Vietnam and helping to win the war in the Persian Gulf as well as maintaining American dominance with regards foreign policy. He also brought an end to the cold war. Another feather in Reagan’s foreign policy cap is that after the Brandenburg Gate Speech came the fall of the Berlin Wall.

His war on drugs reduced the rate of casual drug taking in the US and significantly challenged the influence of drug cartels and organized criminals.

He added over 30% to the GDP and reduced unemployment by ten’s of millions.

An act he signed granted needy families access to training as well as increasing state spending on education. He also saved Social Security.

He did an awful lot of good.

Of course, I could list as many problems Reagan caused too but you asked what he had done that was good

Btw. Zealot was a term used by the Romans to describe a rebellious Jew but language evolves so term usage changes and can apply to have a wider meaning. The term is now used to describe people who are uncompromising in the pursuit of their ideals be them religious or political.

 

[TriBi]

He succumbed to Azheimers (hopefully) after his final term as president?

He made people appreciate that 'B' grade movie actors should stay as such?

Wonder what we'll be saying about Arnie in 20-30 years time?...

 

[Jack Springer]

He made the US one of only 3 countries today to have not adopted the metric system.

That decision was made in the 1960's.

Guess what . . . . democrats had all the power in the US government.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

Militarily Reagan strengthened Carter's weak and fairly useless military breaking the lull in support after Vietnam and helping to win the war in the Persian Gulf as well as maintaining American dominance with regards foreign policy. He also brought an end to the cold war. Another feather in Reagan’s foreign policy cap is that after the Brandenburg Gate Speech came the fall of the Berlin Wall.

His war on drugs reduced the rate of casual drug taking in the US and significantly challenged the influence of drug cartels and organized criminals.

He added over 30% to the GDP and reduced unemployment by ten’s of millions.

An act he signed granted needy families access to training as well as increasing state spending on education. He also saved Social Security.

He did an awful lot of good.

Of course, I could list as many problems Reagan caused too but you asked what he had done that was good

Btw. Zealot was a term used by the Romans to describe a rebellious Jew but language evolves so term usage changes and can apply to have a wider meaning. The term is now used to describe people who are uncompromising in the pursuit of their ideals be them religious or political.

Why is maintaining American Dominance good for the globe overall as a society? How is benefiting one's own corporate interests a positive move for people as a whole? Reagan helped maintain the power that the states grasped on the financial market even though we are a tyrant to the globe. We as a nation don't even take care of our citizens.

What about Reagan and the Contra-Affair?

As for the drug trade, the CIA illegally seized control of the heroin trade and shipped LOADS of the dangerous narcotic into our own country.

How did Reagan end the cold war? The cold war consisted of a war over who would control the financial market as a world power. The two world powers were Capitalist nations, one being a multi-Capitalist nation and one being a state-capitalist nation.

How did Reagan increase the GDP and what strategy did he use to do so? Adding to the GDP doesn't mean the people in society are benefiting, just corporations. Reagan's administration was the only one to not raise the minimum wage. The money that belonged to the laborers was handed to the capitalists, resulting in the contributions to a higher stock market and GDP. The stock market ROSE during part of his administration, and jobs were cut tremendously (Well many were sent overseas for cheaper labor) so that companies wouldn't have to pay for as much labor. This is one factor of how the companies boomed and how the Capitalists in power were the only ones to benefit. The number of Americans living below the poverty level increased from 29 million to almost 32 million by 1988. BTW the GDP fell by 1986.

Low Income groups were hurt TREMENDOUSLY with less spending in social needs. But as long as the Capitalists got extra millions in their pockets, its ok right? Reagan Lowered taxes in the highest of the tax brackets for the wealthy and the Capitalists (Ones Running the Corps.) and raised taxes on the laborers/poor/middle class.
The tax cuts for the highest income earners resulted in a dramatic drop in tax revenue. Things like facilities for the mentally ill, homeless, needy, were cut and crucial social programs were cut more then dramatically. How is that responsible?

Lets remember during the Reagan era the millionaires became billionaires. Sound Familiar?

 

[hungprep]

'Well…

Mommy? Help…'

 

[taxi_ride]

Well first of all, this whole personification of the greedy capitalist and the lovely socialist is a socialist invention. I think socialism is basically a way of someone demanding a Rolls Royce from their arm chair. We’re all greedy, just socialists are lazy and greedy. To that point, Margaret Thatcher said socialists are happy for poorer people to get poorer so long as the rich get poorer. I agree with that too.

When the rich get richer more money is spent in the place where they are, so by allowing millionaires to become billionaires you could argue that Reagan made micro economies. Where by the rich in an area would support that area keeping the money inside America, spending it in the service industry making more people better off. This in turn allows for more goods to be bought in from abroad. If these billionaires had been foreign then they’d have more money. Foreign money would increase the amount bought from USA and therefore reducing the amount of goods that the domestic citizens of the US could buy. In conclusion people would have less grain to eat, less iron ore to build with etc.

A higher stock market value means that countries are able to buy more and feed there people whether you do it in a socialist way which is using a state buyer or a capitalist way which is using a cooperate buyer.

The cold war was NOT a struggle between two capitalist nations. It was a struggle between a Marxist country and a capitalist country for fiscal and foreign policy dominance. One ideology set against the other.

Reagan lowered taxes.

In the UK mental health provision was very good under Thatcher (Reagan in drag.) Mental health patients were either institutionalized and cared for or cared for at home. That was until we got our Socialist government under New Labour which closed the institutions and now we have homeless people starving in every city.

As for the drug trade, the CIA illegally seized control of the heroin trade and shipped loads of the dangerous narcotics into your own country. There are also 13 satanic bloodlines that rule the world, the moon landings were a fake and yes, the world is going to end in 2012. (This is irony btw.)

GDP didn’t decline by 1986; in 1984 it was 3.9tn, 1985 it was 4.187tn and in 1986 it was 4.4tn.

As for the Contra affair you only asked what he had done that was good. But in using it to counter argue me you must assume that it was a bad thing to ship weapons into Iran and therefore you must believe that Iran is an untrustworthy nation to have such weapons. If American dominance fails then the Iranian’s will start to fire them.

The best thing you could do Mr Socialist is type North Korea into Google. It’s a socialist country you know. –Okay I read your mind- It isn’t a socialist country really is it, socialism is just wishful thinking and it’s whatever people want it to be. Free cars, facelifts, and trips to the moon by unicorn. A good thing then that Reagan did was stand in its way.

 

[chrisrobin]

1. He made us feel good about ourselves.
2. He made the world safe for democracy by invading Granada.
3. He protected the American people from thinking about that lousy AIDS pandemic by never discussing it.

Who could ask for anything more?

As good a job as Reagan did, I still think both Fredric March and Henry Fonda were better presidents.