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So who was SloppySeconds Really?

Essex Boy said:
Beware of those rabbit holes! People are convinced there's evidence that the Earl of Oxford wrote the works of Shakespeare and that the Moon landings were faked.
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If you see the list of scholars who line up with the Earl of Oxford, it is no clown car full of crazies. John Thomas Looney, Sigmund Freud, Marjorie Bowen, Charlton Greenwood Ogburn, David McCullough, Roland Emmerich, Derek Jacobi, and many other respected authors endorse the theory:

List of Oxfordian theory supporters - Wikipedia

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Jacobi is a standout, as he has lived the plays as any great Shakespearean actor, and they can smell a lie in authorship better than those of us who but observe.

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Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship - Wikipedia

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The moon landing conspiracy theorists are not scholars, or learned, merely paranoid doubters, like flat earthers.
 
I didn't need no stinking evidence to be convinced I knew who was Sloppy - I'm a good guesser. He's not Vannie.

I also feel sure I know who was Elroy, I just can't recall his name, but it's not the same person as Sloppy.

Also know who was Shakespeare, and it wasn't Oxford. Same guy as wrote Don Quixote, which wasn't Cervantes.
 
purina said:
I didn't need no stinking evidence to be convinced I knew who was Sloppy - I'm a good guesser. He's not Vannie.

I also feel sure I know who was Elroy, I just can't recall his name, but it's not the same person as Sloppy.
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I know there are Jubbers who understood his lingo. I didn't. Just a few bits and pieces here and there.

Elroy could be anyone. His shtick was easy peasy.
 
I remember when there were a couple of people who were obsessed with the notion that I had two accounts. :rotflmao:

But honestly, even I couldn't do sloppy although I did more or less figure out the systemic pattern he used in his writings.
 
I do miss Elroy though.

He must be about 40 now?
 
Elroy was purely comedy.

Sloppy was political critique, not of a party, but of America and the middle class. He played the jester to make his cultural attacks.
 
I enjoyed the Elroy distraction if HT was getting heated about something or other. Good for a chuckle.
 
Vannie said:
I know there are Jubbers who understood his lingo. I didn't. Just a few bits and pieces here and there.
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Gertrude Stein was once asked by an interviewer if she could explain what Four Saints In Three Acts was about. She said "It wasn't written to be explained, it was written to be enjoyed. If you enjoy it you understand it." I felt the same about Sloppy.

Go on Gertie, do your stuff.

 
^ I barely understood anything he said, so I didn't enjoy his unintelligible posts.
 
Vannie said:
You had very convincing material but you can't remember what it was?
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I mean I remember what they were. But I'm not going to waste my time tracking them down again. Basically, it was a couple times certain pattern of words were used by you and sloppy. And a few times you jokingly said you might be sloppy. There were a few other indicators.

Again, it's been over a year or more. I was bored one time and I started going thru a bunch of posts pertaining to sloppy. At some point your name along with a few others turned up as possible puppet master. So I started going thru a bunch of posts and you came up as the most likely to be sloppy.

I was gonna make a lengthy OP for a new thread outlining what I found. Kept putting it off until I lost interest and forgot about it until now.
 
Come to think of it, the guy who was Sloppy first used the name of the guy who was Shakespeare as his username.
 
^ Now that I've listened to it, though, ... ^

(1) I don't think Gertrude was the best reader of her work. (A not uncommon thing among poets.) I'd like to hear, say, Audra McDonald or Linda Hunt (just for example) read it.

(2) Or to hear Audra sing it, because it really does cry out for Virgil Thomson's music, doesn't it?
 
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