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Society is getting more and more casual, and I love it
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Nude_Dude
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THIS one, I believe, is strictly American - and mostly Walmart, I've noticed ?
We have NOTHING like it 'down under'
For this I am eternally grateful.
No.
Pants should merely follow the naturally "jolie" male form:
without the stupid-looking enhancements (surgical
or else ) that females, even fat but flat-up-there ones, feel forced to endure in order to feel "femimine" and "powerful".
NotHardUp1
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It's not worth it. Gross is gross.
Harke the Boeotarch
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We don't wear pyamas in supermarkets either in The Netherlands, and neither is it known from other Western European countries... except the United Kingdom.
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In North America, a huge number of people have just given up on spending a lot on 'fashion', because their lower paying jobs don't allow them to and more and more, they go out less and less.
The thing with Walmart is that it is unabashedly down market...pitching itself as where lower income shoppers can find the lowest quality and prices.
And just like that, people embraced the idea that they could take a break from watching Jerry Springer and Duck Dynasty and take a run into Walmart to get more Camo patterned clothing and 20 pair of tube socks for 5 dollars without having to take the trouble to actually get dressed up.
Walmart also quickly became a safe space for people who wanted to let their freak flag fly, because they looked around and saw others just like them.
As I have aged, I feel more like Walmart people than the 20 something homo who only wore great quality designer clothes when I lived in the city. Since COVID, I have no compunction about being in public shopping while wearing my black joggers and sweatshirt because no one really cares how I look.
The thing with Walmart is that it is unabashedly down market...pitching itself as where lower income shoppers can find the lowest quality and prices.
And just like that, people embraced the idea that they could take a break from watching Jerry Springer and Duck Dynasty and take a run into Walmart to get more Camo patterned clothing and 20 pair of tube socks for 5 dollars without having to take the trouble to actually get dressed up.
Walmart also quickly became a safe space for people who wanted to let their freak flag fly, because they looked around and saw others just like them.
As I have aged, I feel more like Walmart people than the 20 something homo who only wore great quality designer clothes when I lived in the city. Since COVID, I have no compunction about being in public shopping while wearing my black joggers and sweatshirt because no one really cares how I look.
NotHardUp1
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I posit the cause is sloth, not economics. The same people spend inordinate amounts of money on streaming services, gaming, grande coffees, custom rims for their rides, newest "smart" phones, concert tickets, alcohol, dope, god-awful tennis shoes, overpriced sweatpants and windsuits, guns & ammo, cars and trucks that are so not worth it, 75" TVs in every room of the house widen enough to place one, pets du jour (French bulldogs), pet vets, and on and on and on.
It's sloth. People too damned lazy to keep up anything more than jeans, sweats, and tees.
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/\ @ jeans, sweats and tees
I think a lot of people are missing out on the therapeutic benefits of using a flat iron, these days.
Even though I never go anywhere, I really enjoy pressing my clothes. And it's a great way to achieve a feeling of accomplishment when it seems like everything else is going wrong or feels unfixable.
Maybe the wildlife appreciate the crisp clothes making me more easily identifiable as not one of them. LOL
I think a lot of people are missing out on the therapeutic benefits of using a flat iron, these days.
Even though I never go anywhere, I really enjoy pressing my clothes. And it's a great way to achieve a feeling of accomplishment when it seems like everything else is going wrong or feels unfixable.
Maybe the wildlife appreciate the crisp clothes making me more easily identifiable as not one of them. LOL
Sloth?
It's more than "just" that, which actually makes not much sense, if you stop to really think about it.
It would be "sloth" when it were something they had or could perfectly do, but the thing is that they do not have to, because it is a question of character: for the same reason that people do not "care" to learn several trades, languages and acquire technical and scientific skills and knowledge, they do not wear garments that they would consider "overdressing", and that "sloth" character is actually that of merely being "good common" people, and that includes those who feel they belong to a superior status, yet they would "blend in" with the common fashions, only adding overpricing and, to a smaller degree than they and others would generally assume and like to assume, higher quality of fabrics and execution.
So, say in winter, one is "overdressed" for wearing garments in natural fibers that fit your shape, in simple, neutral colours, and in just a couple of layers that keep yourself protected from cold and humidity, yet one is "comfortably dressed" wearing multiple layers of 'plastic' fibers, with lots of cords, patches, folds and what not, contrived by wannabe designing minds intending to "design", and sport shoes for every occasion, and mountain equipment to wade through the streets of a big city by the sea.
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Anyone remember times when - if you wanted something extra special to wear - your mother, or aunt or grandmother would make it for you?
No, only when my mother would care to sew pyjamas for anyone in the family and the extended family.
Oh, wait, Carnival costumes, yes, the Zorro and the Arabian Prince fitting parts going with a plain white shirt and everyday shoes
So "more casual"= commoner.
I guess I actually agree with Hard in that he may have meant "effortless", but my objection was towards the possibility of "choice" or the "obligation" to be demanding towards oneself in every respect. Once the mob rules, you can not expect that the nature of the masses goes for the truly "effortless", not for the complex and hard work behind the "appearance" of "effortless".
One of the most pathetically pretentiously failed speeches is that of Miranda Priestley in that film (no idea about whatever she may say in the book): that you put a lot of effort, time, "work" in something does not mean that you are actually displaying any talent and making anything of 'real' worth.
Actually, what defines the fashion industry (like everything else needing to sell itself as primarily "innovative") is mediocrity, to be kind and very generous, passing for genius an excellence. Just take Anna Wintour: her only talent is having been [born/delivered] at the right position to display a talent shared by hundreds or thousands around the world, but that outshines in a terribly mediocre environment of people being likewise there because someone has to fill in those positions, and they were there ready to follow as a 'job' and 'career' what, left only to their own share of "talent" competing with everyone else in the world, would have left them as the pathetic dreamers they actually are by natural talent.
I guess I actually agree with Hard in that he may have meant "effortless", but my objection was towards the possibility of "choice" or the "obligation" to be demanding towards oneself in every respect. Once the mob rules, you can not expect that the nature of the masses goes for the truly "effortless", not for the complex and hard work behind the "appearance" of "effortless".
One of the most pathetically pretentiously failed speeches is that of Miranda Priestley in that film (no idea about whatever she may say in the book): that you put a lot of effort, time, "work" in something does not mean that you are actually displaying any talent and making anything of 'real' worth.
Actually, what defines the fashion industry (like everything else needing to sell itself as primarily "innovative") is mediocrity, to be kind and very generous, passing for genius an excellence. Just take Anna Wintour: her only talent is having been [born/delivered] at the right position to display a talent shared by hundreds or thousands around the world, but that outshines in a terribly mediocre environment of people being likewise there because someone has to fill in those positions, and they were there ready to follow as a 'job' and 'career' what, left only to their own share of "talent" competing with everyone else in the world, would have left them as the pathetic dreamers they actually are by natural talent.
^ Once the mob rules, you can not expect that the nature of the masses goes DOES NOT GO for the truly "effortless", not for the complex and hard work behind the "appearance" of "effortless".
I also forgot to add the "tel fait de tout son mieux, qui ne fait rien qui vaille"
I also forgot to add the "tel fait de tout son mieux, qui ne fait rien qui vaille"
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I love ironing linen napkins. It is my zen./\ @ jeans, sweats and tees
I think a lot of people are missing out on the therapeutic benefits of using a flat iron, these days.
Even though I never go anywhere, I really enjoy pressing my clothes. And it's a great way to achieve a feeling of accomplishment when it seems like everything else is going wrong or feels unfixable.
Maybe the wildlife appreciate the crisp clothes making me more easily identifiable as not one of them. LOL
But I am long over the desire to keep my shirts pressed. Even when things are going to shit.
^ How silly: ironing, when needed at all, starts from one's own clothing... the year (barely ten months) I spent in China, buying an iron was one of my first musts... and the mates all amazed about the hard job of ironing clothes But it is true it was all more because of my mothers influence. Still the polo shirts did need some final touch to keep them proper... they were not like the braided, "cable" or whatever you call it, not needing any ironing at all EVER, you can finally find now as some sort of peculiar trend 
Then others equally shocked by one sending one's polo shirts to the cleaners instead of submitting to the hard, proud self-supporting job of pushing a couple of buttons in the laundry room in the building-.
But it is true it was all more because of my mothers influence. Still the polo shirts did need some final touch to keep them proper... they were not like the braided, "cable" or whatever you call it, not needing any ironing at all EVER, you can finally find now as some sort of peculiar trend Then others equally shocked by one sending one's polo shirts to the cleaners instead of submitting to the hard, proud self-supporting job of pushing a couple of buttons in the laundry room in the building-.
NotHardUp1
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Not everything nice requires pressing, but when we do, we feel better.
When COVID sent folks home in 2020, I stayed at work as long as the company would allow us, as going home wasn't an option for the Operations workers in the factory, so I didn't like the idea that we were skirting off to loaf at home while the ones making the product weren't getting any breaks. There was LOT of abuse of the term "essential workers" or industry.
But, the company did force us eventually, only because they got forced. I came back the very first chance they allowed us, and not because I'm a workaholic, because I'm not. And it wasn't only because the floor laborers were still in the factory. It was also because slobbing out at home was deleterious to my psyche.
I'm fat, so I don't look nice even when I wear the nicest clothes, and I keep buying new clothes so at least I don't look bad for wearing tired clothes. But, I feel five times better when I know my khakis are pressed, or my wool was cleaned, or my shirt crisp. And I have enough shoes to make a gay man envious.
We owe it to ourselves not to use ease as an excuse to slide into being bums. Sure, we can all enjoy being more casual and less formal as often as it was back when a requirement, but we don't chuck the baby out with the bath water. Wear what is you, but don't deny you do feel better when well dressed.
When COVID sent folks home in 2020, I stayed at work as long as the company would allow us, as going home wasn't an option for the Operations workers in the factory, so I didn't like the idea that we were skirting off to loaf at home while the ones making the product weren't getting any breaks. There was LOT of abuse of the term "essential workers" or industry.
But, the company did force us eventually, only because they got forced. I came back the very first chance they allowed us, and not because I'm a workaholic, because I'm not. And it wasn't only because the floor laborers were still in the factory. It was also because slobbing out at home was deleterious to my psyche.
I'm fat, so I don't look nice even when I wear the nicest clothes, and I keep buying new clothes so at least I don't look bad for wearing tired clothes. But, I feel five times better when I know my khakis are pressed, or my wool was cleaned, or my shirt crisp. And I have enough shoes to make a gay man envious.
We owe it to ourselves not to use ease as an excuse to slide into being bums. Sure, we can all enjoy being more casual and less formal as often as it was back when a requirement, but we don't chuck the baby out with the bath water. Wear what is you, but don't deny you do feel better when well dressed.
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^ I bow to both of you keeping up standards, while I slide into pret a porter turpitude....I know that I am embracing sloth and joggers that I wear even though I don't jog...but ZOOM made me realize that I only have to be pretty from the neck up.
When I lived in Rome and and then returned to take up a position as a consultant...it was nothing but the best.
We had a client organization in the late 90's where the CEO commented on our perfectly pressed apparel and we pointed out that they were paying for it so we should be at our best.
The 2008/09 recession and collapse of the $2000 per day per diems. We actually told one client that our hourly rates were adjusted to reflect that we didn't have to wear suits or hire a pretty receptionist to field their calls.
And the more money I have and the less I care about the properly dressed world out there, the lower my standards slide.
At the same time, I bought the most perfect winter wool overcoat about a decade ago and last year had leather bands added because the wrists were starting to fray. I paid more than the cost of a new wool touque to have my favourite mended after a squirrel stole it a year ago.
When I lived in Rome and and then returned to take up a position as a consultant...it was nothing but the best.
We had a client organization in the late 90's where the CEO commented on our perfectly pressed apparel and we pointed out that they were paying for it so we should be at our best.
The 2008/09 recession and collapse of the $2000 per day per diems. We actually told one client that our hourly rates were adjusted to reflect that we didn't have to wear suits or hire a pretty receptionist to field their calls.
And the more money I have and the less I care about the properly dressed world out there, the lower my standards slide.
At the same time, I bought the most perfect winter wool overcoat about a decade ago and last year had leather bands added because the wrists were starting to fray. I paid more than the cost of a new wool touque to have my favourite mended after a squirrel stole it a year ago.