The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    PLEASE READ: To register, turn off your VPN (iPhone users- disable iCloud); you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

  • Hi Guest - Did you know?
    Hot Topics is a Safe for Work (SFW) forum.

Something I dont understand about Oil

evanrick

JUB Addict
Joined
Aug 1, 2004
Posts
6,491
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Seattle
Something I dont understand...

Drill baby drill,

If foreign owned companies (such as BP) drill on American Land, isnt that oil property of America?

If they are drilling our oil, should we not be the 1st country to use it?

From what I understand the oil is sold on the world market, and we have to pay the going rate for that oil? So how does this benefit us if we are re-importing this oil at higher prices?
 
they pay a shitload of money for the right to drill that oil.
 
You obviously don't have a clue about how oil and mineral rights leases work, do you child?

Nor do you apparently understand that about 99% of that oil is being produced to sate the grotesque energy appetite of the US. You already pay about the lowest amount for gas anywhere in the world outside the gulf states and Venezuela.

You also don't apparently have the first clue about how international companies are publicly owned by shareholders from all over the globe. The object of every company is to make a profit. It is why some of the idiots in the US actually apologized to BP for them having to pay at least 20 billion dollars to repair the mess they've made.
 
oil< one da major drugs>keep hisotrys playpens little boys ans da illusions of bedtime storys sold ta " Countrys" populations with added media help

when United Nations cans a point ta any member ans say theys is real country me take da list of countrys out da compost hole but nature had time digest alls da shit from alls da "males playpens" suckin on crap

got stop readin

world market is people ans price is ans so ons ans

anyway one a hope OIL help bring down da centurys of crap what foundations lot cultures ins world

betta give um soemthin keep um happy
' how about vote '
Yeah we plenty paper
' ans offer um choice of penguins ta pray ta'
ya get promoted fa that one
' ooh thankya lick lick '
hold on save some ma asshole fa rest
' ooh of course scrape scrape scrape '

;) da pyramids is pointy
 
You obviously don't have a clue about how oil and mineral rights leases work, do you child?

Nor do you apparently understand that about 99% of that oil is being produced to sate the grotesque energy appetite of the US. You already pay about the lowest amount for gas anywhere in the world outside the gulf states and Venezuela.

You also don't apparently have the first clue about how international companies are publicly owned by shareholders from all over the globe. The object of every company is to make a profit. It is why some of the idiots in the US actually apologized to BP for them having to pay at least 20 billion dollars to repair the mess they've made.

He asked a simple question, asshole. You don't have be a dick about it.
 
I can't speak for the US, but I can speak for how things work in Canada.

The Oil Sands are a big issue for us here, both in regards of environmental impact and the revenue generated by them for Alberta.

Effectively, Alberta allows companies to come into Alberta and have the right to drill for and prepare oil to be manufactured. In exchange for this, these oil companies have to pay what is known as a 'royalty rate', in addition to the taxes that these companies pay to the province and the country.

Essentially, the royalty rate is like paying for the oil while it is in the ground and then having the right to sell it off as they see fit. In some cases, the royalty rate is fair and what not, but in other cases, it is not. In Alberta, for example, the royalty rate was raised by the new Premier to ensure a greater return for people in Alberta; well, the oil companies balked at this a little and threatened to pull all of their operations out of Alberta for a short while.

So, effectively, that's how it works...At least in Canada.
 
He asked a simple question, asshole. You don't have be a dick about it.

JUB Rule #251: Always be on perma-bitch mode. Being an asshole makes you seem more important/smarter/better than everyone else.
 
To be blunt, it was the whiny sense of entitlement and jingoistic 'America first' attitude in the OP that justified the response the OP got.

Oh. And that any person with a modicum of intellectual curiosity and real interest could have found about 1 million sources on-line to actually research the question they were asking. But the best that the OP could do was throw it out on a porn forum board.

It is almost like it was bait.
 
Something I dont understand...

Drill baby drill,

If foreign owned companies (such as BP) drill on American Land, isnt that oil property of America?

If they are drilling our oil, should we not be the 1st country to use it?

From what I understand the oil is sold on the world market, and we have to pay the going rate for that oil? So how does this benefit us if we are re-importing this oil at higher prices?


Its confusing but oil is sold on a worldwide market. The industry preaches that drilling for oil domestically will make the USA less dependent on foreign oil. The average American thinks that means if the oil is drilled here fuel will be cheaper. But that's a bunk of shit.
Whats strange is so many anti-government people believe this in states like Louisiana that buy into it, yet on the other hand they yell "socialist" at every thing else.
Our Country oil industry is not nationalized like Mexico, Brazil, or my employer (CITGO) Venezuela. So as a Capitalist nation the maker of the product sells the product how they want in lieu of leases, contracts, & royalties.

You take a state like Louisiana that as allowed the slow death of its lands by whoring them out, while Deepwater is the mother lode of disaster, the state was being skunked slowly with a lot of oil/haz-mat spills bringing its natural lands down slowly. A couple of weeks before Deepwater blew Chevron lost a main pipeline on channel 69 bringing oil from the platforms to the empire City terminal. Luckily it was in the middle of a tax payer operated National Wildlife refuge (sarcasm) only accessible by boat and would get little press as it spilled thousands of gallons into the wetlands. What press was given to that accident was shadowed quickly by Deep water and Chevron gave a sigh of relief but had little to worry about anyway.
This is not a rare occurrence here, but doesn't get press. Just fucks the wildlife up who aren't talking. I remember being at our Lake Charles refinery in the mid 90's and it belched out just shy of a 100,000 gallons of oil into the wonderful Louisiana soils.
All these sort of spills add up, like a cancer from smoking over time.
But the people are to stupid to figure out they are getting a bad deal. After all the royalties are nil, and the biggest most profitable companies in the world are making money, or they wouldn't be there.

"Its our oil" it will keep `em gasoline prices low,... that's the mentality. Plus all them good jobs!
...... Yet with all that big business cranking out money Louisiana is the 2nd poorest state in the USA! :=D: Looks like it isn't really helping the state being all that prosperous after all!

Those with the biggest faucet and most money control price and where it goes. So even a big find is found the one's with the hand on there faucet (OPEC) just turns there production down and also set prices with the oil companies.

Oil moves quantities and prices move strictly on paper regardless of where drilled. Of course you are not going to physically move product drilled off Louisiana to be refined in Venezuela if you have a nearby refinery.... makes more $$$ to produce & sell product as close as possible, though that oil price is not set because it was drilled nearby.
 
Yeah, you pretty much summed him up.

Many people on JUB act like posting a rude comment makes them a 'tough guy' when it just makes them look like fussy child. Maybe they feel insignificant or bitter in real life, who knows.
 
Many people on JUB act like posting a rude comment makes them a 'tough guy' when it just makes them look like fussy child. Maybe they feel insignificant or bitter in real life, who knows.

Makes him sound like a screaming hairdresser who just saw a spider.
 
Makes him sound like a screaming hairdresser who just saw a spider.

I actually feel sorry for them. They must be going through some anger or self-esteem issues or depression to be constantly snarky and moody. Makes me wonder how they function in their day-to-day lives.
 
I actually feel sorry for them. They must be going through some anger or self-esteem issues or depression to be constantly snarky and moody. Makes me wonder how they function in their day-to-day lives.

Yep. Cant be a lot of joy in those lives.
 
I heard (during the Winter Olympics of all things) that the US gets most of it's imported oil from Canada. Not the middle east as most people assume.

I had never heard that before and haven't heard it since. The source was NBC News and a feature piece done by Tom Brokaw.

And as for the snarky folks, I ticked off one of those yesterday on this board. He wanted to nit pick my word useage.
 
Oh for heaven's sakes.

It wasn't rude.

It isn't depression.

Some days it is just hard to do stupid.
 
Something I dont understand...

Drill baby drill,

If foreign owned companies (such as BP) drill on American Land, isnt that oil property of America?

If they are drilling our oil, should we not be the 1st country to use it?

From what I understand the oil is sold on the world market, and we have to pay the going rate for that oil? So how does this benefit us if we are re-importing this oil at higher prices?

They are not drilling on land.
 
As stated above before the cat claws came out, the companies lease the land for absurd amounts of money.

In comparison, people from the Middle East (mostly Saudi Arabia) buy Canadian land to farm on it to have the crops shipped back to their home country. Oil is similar albeit different.
 
Back
Top