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Sorry Creationists ... Evolutionary gap in early land animal fossil record filled

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But they've already got a response:

The gap closes but transitions are still lacking.

Evolutionists have long noted “Romer’s gap,” an absence of terrestrial fossils in 15 million years worth of rock in the geologic column above the Devonian mass extinction of aquatic animals. A trove of terrestrial fossils in Scotland discovered by Stanley Wood and Jennifer Clack “is forcing archeologists the world over to do some rewriting of their history books.”

Evolutionary paleontologists have pondered whether there really was a multimillion year gap (from 360 million years ago to 345 million) after the death of so many aquatic creatures before evolution could march forward. Perhaps they just hadn’t found enough fossils yet. The gap used to be 30 million years when vertebrate paleontologist Alfred Romer first noticed the hole in the fossil record. Since then, fossil finds have supposedly partially filled it in. With Clack and Wood’s discoveries, the gap disappears.

Romer’s gap, if it contained any fossils, should in the evolutionary view reveal transitions between aquatic and terrestrial animals. As Clack explains, “'The break has been frustrating, because you wouldn't expect evolution to jump from simple aquatic creatures to complex, terrestrial animals without something in between.”

The fossils found in Scotland include vertebrates and invertebrates, terrestrial and aquatic. They include the “oldest”—actually the deepest—known five-toed foot, trumping previous finds by twenty million years in conventional dating. “These fossils are already revealing that the pentadactyl limb, which features five fingers or five toes, evolved a good 20 million years earlier than we thought,” Clack says. “This suite of fossils from Scotland now gives us a fuller picture of events at the start of the Carboniferous, when animals left the water and started colonising the land.” Furthermore, she adds, “'The sequence of fossils over the crucial period should be able to say something about the rate at which animals evolved at the end of the Devonian mass extinction.”

Despite Clack’s confidence that closer examination of the fossils will yield the secret of “how primitive animals at the end of the Devonian evolved into complex Carboniferous animals,” they do not provide the missing transitions. Her expectation is based on belief that terrestrial animals evolved from aquatic animals. Clack has written elsewhere, “Although humans do not usually think of themselves as fishes, they nonetheless share several fundamental characters that unite them inextricably with their relatives among the fishes. Tetrapods did not evolve from sarcopterygians [lobe-finned fishes]; they are sarcopterygians.”5 Thus, Clack semantically denies the necessity of finding transitional forms by imagining a smooth continuum of development. However, the Genesis account of creation of all kinds of creatures about 6,000 years ago with the ability to reproduce after their kinds is consistent with the non-evolutionary findings in biology: organisms do reproduce after their kinds.

Furthermore, Clack’s expectation of discovering the rate of evolution across this gap is based on the assumption that evolution of new kinds of creatures actually happened as well as the assumption that the dating of the rock layers is reliable. Actually those dates are based on a number of unverifiable assumptions. Interpretations of the evidence are based on the assumptions one accepts without proof.

These fossils do fill in a gap in the rocks, but not in “deep time.” Many supposed millions of years are accounted for by the single year of the global Flood. The fossils in the geologic column represent not evolution of life over millions of years but the record of death, mostly during in the global Flood. The order of creatures in the geologic column reveals the order in which organisms were rapidly buried, with the aquatic organisms occupying the lowest portions having been the first to be overwhelmed and buried. Creatures more capable of temporarily escaping rising floodwaters would generally be found in higher layers, as the researchers found here. Romer’s gap would represent both an artifact of sampling inconsistencies as the authors suggest as well as a possible layer in which much sediment was deposited while most mobile animals were still scrambling away with temporary success. The Bible explains the findings here and elsewhere in the geologic column.



The clinging to the worldwide flood idea is touching, but sad.


BTW, here's a more direct link to your complete article:
http://planetearth.nerc.ac.uk/news/story.aspx?id=1178
 
The devil put those fossils in the ground to confuse our children
 
It's too late now to mention every time that evolution is a fact with all due respect.
 
The devil put those fossils in the ground to confuse our children

Not just the children, but certain sin-loving "liberals" as well. Satan's power's can make them look like they're millons of years old when in fact they're only a few thousand.

I love running into that line. I say, "Tricky of him to put them in rocks millions and millions of years old."

Inevitably, they say the rocks are being dated by the fossils, and the rocks are only a few thousand years old.

I say, "Well, then God must have made the Himalayas first, then took a long vacation."

They're like, huh?

So I explain that there's this thing called crystal deformation that happens when rocks bend. If they bend too fast, they break. We know how fast a whole bunch of different crystals can bend. So when we find bent crystals, we measure how far they're bent, and then calculate how long it took them to get that way. And in the Himalayas, there are crystals that needed at least many tens of millions of years to bend.
And those rocks with those crystals have fossils in them -- fossils of sea creatures. And if the fossils are only a few thousands of years old, it was quite tricky to get them into the rocks. In fact, it was miraculous, because they got slipped in so it looks like they were buried in mud, and then it all got bent. In fact, it was done by a deceiver, because the crystals in the fossils are bent just like the ones in the rocks!

Inevitably, they agree, and say that proves that Satan did it, by making them look millions and millions of years old.

I pause, and say, "So if God made the rocks, and they look tens of millions of years old, but the earth is only a few thousand years old, what does that make Him?"


I haven't gotten hit yet, but a couple of times I've gotten ready to duck.
 
They really do think this.

An alternate belief is that God himself put those fossils in the Earth to test our faith.

I'm not kidding. I grew up in the church and have heard all the answers.

See my response right above -- it works just the same.

If they don't say the conclusion, I do: according to that idea, God is a deceiver. All the scientific evidence about rocks tells us that many, many rocks are many, many millions of years old. If God made them that way, then He's not being truthful with us. But the Bible says that God is truthful in all His ways.

So the idea is false.
 
And not just the earth, but if God created the whole universe in six days, that means that the distant stars must have been created at the same time. Which means He must have created the light from those stars already en route to earth, otherwise it wouldn't have got here by now. So He was one busy dude, no wonder he needed a day off...
 
There were some really cool animals once upon a time


What the hell happened?


I need that Jurassic Park...
 
Interesting findings, but it doesn't change my beliefs or feelings concerning the matter.
 
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No matter how good the evidence are,

god create everything. Repeat, everything !!! .... :badgrin:
 
All that takes too long to explain, their eyes glaze over and it ultimately changes nothing.

I just throw cream pies in their faces.

A couple over the years have woken up.

Several more have come to agree that the earth itself is a few billion years old... though they won't concede that life began earlier than ten thousand years back.
 
I'm an atheist and this just increases my belief in evolution further. Creationists will come up with whatever claptrap that they can to explain this one away. They try to poke holes in evolution, yet can't be bothered to explain the massive holes in their argument.

Correction: that's young earth Creationists . . . ignoramuses who understand neither science nor the Bible.

Some Creationists believe that God chose the constants for the universe, dropped them into nowhere, and it resulted in the Big Bang. (I imagine Him telling the angels, "Watch this! In about twelve billion years this thing called 'life' will occur".)
 
rareboy, that pic is priceless!


No matter how good the evidence are,

god create everything. Repeat, everything !!! .... :badgrin:

Well, there's no evidence to the contrary. But there's megatons of evidence He didn't do it like a little kid setting up his toy farm animals and all, six millennia ago, complete with deceptive scenery.
 
Correction: that's young earth Creationists . . . ignoramuses who understand neither science nor the Bible.

Some Creationists believe that God chose the constants for the universe, dropped them into nowhere, and it resulted in the Big Bang. (I imagine Him telling the angels, "Watch this! In about twelve billion years this thing called 'life' will occur".)

Hey Gabriel, hold my Ambrosia and watch this!
 
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