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Seems coffee shops big and small (mostly in New York and Cali) won't be letting you/us freeload anymore at their stores. All because of the recession. :( Well, accelerated by the recession.

A sign at Naidre's, a small neighborhood coffee shop in Brooklyn, N.Y., begins warmly: "Dear customers, we are absolutely thrilled that you like us so much that you want to spend the day..."


But, it continues, "...people gotta eat, and to eat they gotta sit." At Naidre's in Park Slope and its second location in nearby Carroll Gardens, Wi-Fi is free. But since the spring of 2008, no laptops have been allowed between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. weekdays and 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. weekends, unless the customer is eating and typing at the same time.


Amid the economic downturn, there are fewer places in New York to plug in computers. As idle workers fill coffee-shop tables -- nursing a single cup, if that, and surfing the Web for hours -- and as shop owners struggle to stay in business, a decade-old love affair between coffee shops and laptop-wielding customers is fading. In some places, customers just get cold looks, but in a growing number of small coffee shops, firm restrictions on laptop use have been imposed and electric outlets have been locked. The laptop backlash may predate the recession, but the recession clearly has accelerated it.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950421033208823.html#mod=rss_US_News
 
Seems fair to me, and I am saying that while sitting in a bar sipping ice tea.:D
 
My favorite coffee place has had this policy for years. Makes sense to me. I'd be pissed off if I wanted to sit down and eat lunch, but all of the tables were occupied by people who had been nursing the same damn latte since 9:30.
 
In case no one noticed: -- Notebooks (progressive gen x's don't call them Laptops anymore) are getting smaller and smaller. More and more people are carrying them around --everywhere they go. You can get superb access from newer technology phones. so what's the point?
pretty soon - "wi-fi" signals are going to be "in the air - everywhere" - just go sit on a park bench if you wanna no problem. Many courtyards at Yale are filled with students and free-riders alike sucking up free singals.
If it wasn't for the wireless connection attraction - a few Bruggers and Panera Bread shops around here would be empty - so they won't be following this "trend" if it even in one - anytime soon. If they do -- they could just close their doors, and get a refund on their router.
If you're that desparate - there's always the Public Library..
 
BINOWGAYLATER said:
In case no one noticed: -- Notebooks (progressive gen x's don't call them Laptops anymore) are getting smaller and smaller. More and more people are carrying them around --everywhere they go. You can get superb access from newer technology phones. so what's the point?
pretty soon - "wi-fi" signals are going to be "in the air - everywhere" - just go sit on a park bench if you wanna no problem. Many courtyards at Yale are filled with students and free-riders alike sucking up free singals.
If it wasn't for the wireless connection attraction - a few Bruggers and Panera Bread shops around here would be empty - so they won't be following this "trend" if it even in one - anytime soon. If they do -- they could just close their doors, and get a refund on their router.
If you're that desparate - there's always the Public Library..
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The term is netbook. And they are in their own category as sub-compact notebooks with usually no more than 1GB of RAM, low amount of storage, and unbelievably good battery life. They are also very small.

They are used primarily for the internet. Which is indicated by the name netbook.

Laptops are the regular sized portable computers that can get as powerful as they can make it.

And people have been trying to get blanket wifi in cities for awhile. Internet carrying companies stop it at almost every turn.

But there is a new technology called mifi, where you carry around a portable internet access point. But as you imagine, that costs money.
 
Seems only fair to me. There is a restaurant by me that has a great happy hour on Wednesdays with an appetizer buffet. Inevitably there is a group of people (not together, just there all the time) who arrive at 4:30 and nurse the same glass of wine for 2 hours and eat like enemy is coming to get them and take them away. Seriously - how is this restaurant supposed to make money with these people taking up real estate for 2 hours, a glass of wine, and eating about 5 plates worth of food piled as high as they can get it piled. Same thing with the internet access - nursing the same cup of coffee for hours at a time while surfing the web meanwhile there are people who purchased a whole meal and just want to sit down for 15 minutes to eat their lunch but cannot because of the web surfers is not fair. So I agree - say bye-bye internet access.
 
Well - there is almost always someone who has an unprotected internet connection...

Failing that (in Australia anyway) McDonalds advertise free WiFi...
 
-Noiro said:
One of the cofee shops here had a problem with that. There was a huge tizzy when they took measure to limits people's time.

The router limited you to a 2 hours of connection time in any business day. So peope started bitching and this and that. My buddy who works there said most of the people who complained the loudest were the ones that came in and bought a small plain coffee and nursed it for seven hours.

There were so many complaints the manager removed the limitation but at my friend's suggestion removed all the power outlets from the lobby area and plastered up the holes. :rotflmao:

The sign they put up "Dear customers: Due to the economic downturn we had to remove power lines from the lobby and sell the copper to stay open. We hope you can appreciate how difficult this has been for us."
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Now that's an approach I like . LOL.


In all respect to the shop owners, they should have every right to limit whatever happens on the Internet connection they are paying for, but if you're a mega-corporation like Starbucks or McDonalds, not so much.
 
Good! I'm sick of these self-indulgent pigs who monopolize a table and several chairs with their belongings. They see the extensive line of people and they have no remorse. It's all about them.

Well, not any more it ain't bitch. Take your paper cup, laptop, and your self-indulgent cunt/mancunt and get the fuck out!
 
-Noiro said:
There were so many complaints the manager removed the limitation but at my friend's suggestion removed all the power outlets from the lobby area and plastered up the holes. :rotflmao:

The sign they put up "Dear customers: Due to the economic downturn we had to remove power lines from the lobby and sell the copper to stay open. We hope you can appreciate how difficult this has been for us."
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That is a riot! Guessing they turn the tables over faster now. Although, I would have just pulled the internet access - would have been cheaper to just turn off the router rather than construction.
 
good on them. it is more than fair. they have a buisness to run and people to keep in work. if they are sat there and not buyng regular drinks etc then they should leave. simple
 
A lot of more progressive towns have free wifi, usually located more in the downtown area. I've encountered it in a few places, like Carrboro and Chapel Hill, NC. :)
 
I hate to say this, but the so-called "information superhighway" has hit a major speed bump with regard to wifi access. It wasn't until I got a laptop and went back to school last year that I realized just how problematic public wifi has become. Not so many free zones anymore, and many want you to sign up for some club or membership or something. What a damn drag. But then again, perhaps all this wireless connectivity is just a real bad idea, security-wise.
 
BabiGayPimp said:
I hate to say this, but the so-called "information superhighway" has hit a major speed bump with regard to wifi access. It wasn't until I got a laptop and went back to school last year that I realized just how problematic public wifi has become. Not so many free zones anymore, and many want you to sign up for some club or membership or something. What a damn drag. But then again, perhaps all this wireless connectivity is just a real bad idea, security-wise.
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Big companies are dropping the pay model now, and wifi is starting to increase in areas. Barnes and Noble, and Borders no longer charge for wifi. I think Starbucks have dropped the charge too, but I may be wrong.

With this mifi thing, it is only going to increase the popularity of wifi, and as smart phones have wifi antennae in them, it is going to be more necessary.

Security wise though. Yeah, it is a problem
 
Mifi

Novatel Wireless last week announced it will release the MiFi, a portable wireless router that will deliver wireless 3G data network access to multiple users in a small area. Much the same size as a credit card, the sleek looking MiFi will let users select access to EVDO or HSPA high speed data networks.

This "cloud" of high-speed Internet connectivity that MiFi offers can be shared not only between users, but between devices such as laptops, cameras, gaming devices and multimedia players. Perfect for carpooling and relieving boredom in the back seat during that long road trip with kids - think Nintendo DS or Sony PSP - the MiFi will support up to five users simultaneously.
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http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/watch_out_wifi_here_comes_mifi.php
 
Sealed in a mayonaise jar under Funk and waglel's porch (ala Johnny Carson) is my prediction that in 5 years - the "signals" required will be EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME....... no matter what kinda "book" you have.

You know how Doctor's offices USED to have (and some still do) those rows and rows of "files" with the color coded numbers to file sequentially? WELLLLLL in 1976 i worked in one of those offices - -and although it wasn't medical - it was the same kinda filing system - and i said -- gee - - if everyone had a computer (screen) on their desk- they could just key in a social security number and all the info in those paper files would show on the screen !! (after all -- i had been to computer programming school --!) I came very close to being carried away by the little men in thelittle white coats - and locked securely in a RUBBER ROOM -- I was told that was a completely idiotic if not STUPIDist thing every said !! and i should never say anything like that again if i wanted to work there !
HRUMPF !!! "how do you like me now?"
 
luminum said:
A lot of more progressive towns have free wifi, usually located more in the downtown area. I've encountered it in a few places, like Carrboro and Chapel Hill, NC. :)
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Yeah, but unless you're sitting at one of the tables at Weaver Street, there aren't many convenient places to USE that free wifi.
 
luminum said:
A lot of more progressive towns have free wifi, usually located more in the downtown area. I've encountered it in a few places, like Carrboro and Chapel Hill, NC. :)
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I believe Portland just did that a few months ago.
 
Why not do as I do? Stay in your office and have an assistant collect anything you want?


Certainly beats waiting in a twenty minute line for one cup of coffee!
 
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