STD's vacation problems.

[KaraBulut]

Was four 40 years ago. 20 years ago -almost- always used condoms.

I still recommend them if one is still spreading the love around.

Booty bumping Bath Salts isn't very good for keeping rectal tissue resilient is it? Thought I'd found a good way of administrating 3mmc rather tan injecting... but is a correct injection with a clean needle actally safer than booty bumping when barebacking? Does anybody know?

Of course, I'm not going to answer that question. Recreational partying and chemsex is unwisely, the bastion of the young. There comes an age when it's time to move on to more adult pursuits.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Of course, I'm not going to answer that question.

There was information about it on another website (tweaker.org).

There comes an age when it's time to move on to more adult pursuits.

That time isn't yet now.

 

[Mariatenebre]

So not only are you having wild unprotected sex you are also doing chemsex aka sex with drugs.

Yeah you are living a very dangerous lifestyle and if you cared about your "love" you wouldn't be even entertaining the possibility of infecting him with a disease.

Honestly it is shit like this why I am scared to death of entering a relationship with anyone and will only use condoms even in a committed relationship because some people don't give a fuck with stepping out on their partners having wild sex and bringing home a disease to them.

Hell some bugchasers even like to do so and infect their partners by stealthing them.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

So not only are you having wild unprotected sex you are also doing chemsex aka sex with drugs.

Yeah you are living a very dangerous lifestyle and if you cared about your "love" you wouldn't be even entertaining the possibility of infecting him with a disease.

We both have a lot of (unprotected) sex. He lives about 516 km away (according to Google Maps). He just wrote me that he had his checkup too and that he isn't infected with what I had. We met in the Paris Suncity gay sauna backroom and when we are together we always go to such places. He's also 11 years older than I.

Honestly it is shit like this why I am scared to death of entering a relationship with anyone and will only use condoms even in a committed relationship because some people don't give a fuck with stepping out on their partners having wild sex and bringing home a disease to them.

Hell some bugchasers even like to do so and infect their partners by stealthing them.

Betrayal is always possible.

Today I turned down a chemsex officinado (after I was turned down myself by another that I have had sex with already) because he thought the possibility of STD's exciting.

Also, I turned down drugdealers on my social app. Not that I haven't used all that stuff that they had already in the past.

I'm not afraid of these drugs at all... but should I be sponsoring the criminals who control the illegal drugmarket? Then of course the drugs are likely adulturated or even wholly absent from my purchase...

What bothers me apart from the criminal element and the health risk of the drugs themselves and the higher disease risk, is that they're your best friends as long as the drugs work and they won't even talk to you after they wear off.

Not really worth the brain damage.

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So I got PreP yesterday, and this will be day 3 (4:15 AM here now).

I asked the medic who gave it to me if my booty bumping 3mmc could have impacted on the resilience of my rectal tissue and she thought that otherwise than a drawn out disinhibited state which easier leads to abrasion she didn't believe the compound itself was damaging to the rectal tissue.

Since I have been barebacked before, however, but never booty bumped until recently, and have only now contracted two different STD's at once, I will ask other medics, especially because this possibility was on tweakers.org.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Today I found out I have no STD infection.

I have sent the clinic a question about my drug use.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Wednesday I´m going to see my love for another five day holiday in France.

Was gonna take it easy with chems... then I really fell off the wagon last week and was bloodslammed with bath salts and by another date finally with meth.

Telephonic chemsex consultation tomorrow night.

This NEEDS to stop.

 

[KaraBulut]

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Telephonic chemsex consultation tomorrow night.

This NEEDS to stop.

Good luck with the consult. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Rickrock]

Hope that you are able to stay off of the chemicals and things go well for you.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Good luck with the consult. Let us know how it goes.

The person I spoke to -a volunteer- was surprisingly optimistic about my chances to deal with drugs. I asked him if he knew about people fainting on 3mmc (bath salts) as I'd been with two different people who did. He couldn't find any specifics, but gave me a few tips on where I could find additional information.

I also shared with him my misadventures with slamming... but I think a main component of the program is to determine which guys are vulnerable to addictive behavior and I don't think I seemed that.

He asked me about chemsex on hallucinogens, which he didn't have any experience with and neither did he know anyone that did. So I told him a little about it.

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I sent Mr. Bloodslam the link today, with the recommendation to speak to a chemsex consultant.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Talked to a guy on my dating app. Also a blood-slammer. He had had Hepatitis C and was treated for it.

Apparently the treatment costs 12.000 euros here (most of which we don't have to pay ourselves under our Dutch healthcare system). So -at least- it's no longer the death sentence it used to be.

The risks of bloodslamming are too big and the cost of Hepatitis C treatment too high. I would want to avoid burdening our health system with.

Having said this, I'm still having unprotected sex.

 

[KaraBulut]

Talked to a guy on my dating app. Also a blood-slammer. He had had Hepatitis C and was treated for it.

Apparently the treatment costs 12.000 euros here (most of which we don't have to pay ourselves under our Dutch healthcare system). So -at least- it's no longer the death sentence it used to be...

Just to make sure you're aware...

It's true that some of the new antivirals like glecaprevir and pibrentasvir are highly effective at permanently curing HepC and preventing complications like liver cirrhosis, antivrials do not eliminate the risk of liver cancer. After contracting HepC, there's still a 10 year window of increased risk of liver cancer, even with antiviral treatment.

 

[ShadowCat]

Having said this, I'm still having unprotected sex.

Yes and you have caught multiple things! Sure you might be on PreP, but it isn't a fail safe you might still get HIV, you really should be using condoms. To each their own but I worried myself stupid in 2020 til January 2021 I learned I'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Just to make sure you're aware...

It's true that some of the new antivirals like glecaprevir and pibrentasvir are highly effective at permanently curing HepC and preventing complications like liver cirrhosis, antivrials do not eliminate the risk of liver cancer. After contracting HepC, there's still a 10 year window of increased risk of liver cancer, even with antiviral treatment.

Heard you the first, the second and the third time. And the other times.

Yes and you have caught multiple things! Sure you might be on PreP, but it isn't a fail safe you might still get HIV, you really should be using condoms. To each their own but I worried myself stupid in 2020 til January 2021 I learned I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Yes. I don't want to catch anything myself, and far less be responsible for passing it over to someone else. I need to chance.

Last night was -one of these nights- went to the cruise place and ended up taking about 8 different substances mostly RC's, two illegal, one recently so.

The illegal one I got from an acquaintance whom I'm provided with a little of three of the illegal ones.

Although I had three 'erection helpers' my penis went limp until I got home. Wanted to get fucked, but that also didn't happen, so all that happened was a little sucking.

Heard that some other guy I know collapsed at the cruise place, and was taken to hospital, where the doctor told him to quit slamming Tina or die.

Talked to the guy who provided the illegal substance (G) about my misadventures with Tina and discussed the recreational drug use that sometimes happens at that place, but -of course- completely out of my mind on a whole bag of hallucinogens, three kinds of cathinones, two kamagra and a cialis, poppers and G.

Three new designer drugs at once.

 

[KaraBulut]

Heard you the first, the second and the third time. And the other times.

That was the first time that I mentioned it.

I only knew that particular factoid because I know someone who contracted HCV, spent the $25K on the cure but still died a rather unpleasant death from hepatocellular carcinoma. It's not the way anyone should go.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

That was the first time that I mentioned it.

I only knew that particular factoid because I know someone who contracted HCV, spent the $25K on the cure but still died a rather unpleasant death from hepatocellular carcinoma. It's not the way anyone should go.

I meant, of course, your general misgivings to my poor lifestyle choices, but thank you for this information, and the information that you just gave me.

If I can avoid grief like this it will be good, but I'm not like to move into a monastery, and I doubt sex will ever be wholly safe.

 

[KaraBulut]

I meant, of course, your general misgivings to my poor lifestyle choices, but thank you for this information, and the information that you just gave me.

If I can avoid grief like this it will be good, but I'm not like to move into a monastery, and I doubt sex will ever be wholly safe.

Well, I care. I've also been doing this a long time. I share what I know and what my experience has been, in hopes that it might help someone. But in the end, I know that it's up to you to do the work.

 

[ShadowCat]

Last night was -one of these nights- went to the cruise place and ended up taking about 8 different substances mostly RC's, two illegal, one recently so.


I had three 'erection helpers'

of course- completely out of my mind on a whole bag of hallucinogens, three kinds of cathinones, two kamagra and a cialis, poppers and G.

Yet you say you wanna quit?! Uuum ok the erection helper: cialis and poppers ok but the rest ooh boy...8?! You might have ended up like ur friend, there's 2 words you can say if offered other favors: NO THANKS! I know addiction is a disease but you have to learn to say no! If a trick offers and you say no and he leaves oh well so be it big deal he left there's always masturbation! Try and be safer from the sounds of it you might need to ditch bathhouses and cruising grounds. Maybe abstain while you search for the help you need!

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Well, I care. I've also been doing this a long time. I share what I know and what my experience has been, in hopes that it might help someone. But in the end, I know that it's up to you to do the work.

It is much appreciated. Last night I tried to have exclusively safe sex for the first time in a long time. The sex failed, but I'm not going to have any unsafe sex without my boyfriend present. And I'm going to quit PreP until I see him again.

Yet you say you wanna quit?! Uuum ok the erection helper: cialis and poppers ok but the rest ooh boy...8?! You might have ended up like ur friend, there's 2 words you can say if offered other favors: NO THANKS! I know addiction is a disease but you have to learn to say no! If a trick offers and you say no and he leaves oh well so be it big deal he left there's always masturbation! Try and be safer from the sounds of it you might need to ditch bathhouses and cruising grounds. Maybe abstain while you search for the help you need!

I'm a binger not an addict. They guy is an acquaintance, not a friend, although I see him often when I go cruising.

Ever since I've been cruising in the park, both my use and sexual adventures have been spirallng out of control. I haven't thrown away all my ('legal' I don't have any illegal ones) drugs, but they're not coming back with me, to my village, at the end of the week.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

More chems Sunday, still have some. Thought I was sober, but I was still under the influence.

The lisergamide I took, MiPLA, didn't even work because of cross-tolerance with the 4-ho-met I took Friday, while the MDPHP freebase worked like a charm.
For some stupid reason the sex was objectively better than Saturday's safe sex.

And now it's comedown time still.

After Sunday, I haven't had any sex, nor plan to before I see my boyfriend in Paris, at the end of February. Stopped taking PreP to see what would happen.

 

[ShadowCat]

This is so Oxymoronic "I'm a binger NOT an addict" yet in the post under that one you talk of all the crap you are taking for your chem sex fun, sugar face it YOU ARE ADDICTED! Best thing for you would be in patient sedated detox and twice daily meetings for one year! I hope you get the help you need, Safe journey!