Straight best friends start gay porn site

[sultrysam]

i think the gay porn is a better choice for you guy. straight porn focuses on girls and is not where the money is at! imo anyways. i think ya'll are doing great and hopefully i can make it out to vegas and chat with ya'll.. you guys seem like a great bunch and down to earth unlike most..

But they aren't getting paid per scene, they own the site and therefore would be getting all the money from subscribers. Another plus is that they get to fuck all the girls on their site since straight porn is focused on the girl. They wouldn't risk becoming overexposed.

 

[youngnihilist]

Haha that's what I was thinking. Kinsey 2 at the very least.

At the very least. i'm thinking 3 or 4. If they were 2, they'd be fucking girls in threesomes.

 

[distantpinky]

But they aren't getting paid per scene, they own the site and therefore would be getting all the money from subscribers. Another plus is that they get to fuck all the girls on their site since straight porn is focused on the girl. They wouldn't risk becoming overexposed.

the thing about having more subscribers is that they already have a fan base from the last site so they have a good foot in the door there. on top of that if they were to do straight porn it would be hard for them to maintain the girls in their life that they have. they girls know that they are not going to just run off with some guy opposed to if they were having sex with girls they would more than most likely freak out and not be able to keep the relationships that they have now. they have been in the business for a few years and probably know everything about the gay industry opposed to the straight industry.

 

[AustinZane]

Stills from 'The Very First Shoot' at AustinZane.com

 

[AustinZane]

BRET GETS HIS ROCKS OFF!

 

[AustinZane]

 

[AustinZane]

BEYOND bored with the whole 'We're Straight' thing.....if you've had dick in your mouth or ass more than 3 times and you like it- guess what- you're at least bi- accept it and move on.....can't understand why gay men are so eager to give their money to 'straight' people when gay sites (Queerty) are going under all the time

It's hard to reply to your statement and expect you to read it how I mean it to sound. So this is going to probably come across as bitter, but I honestly mean it to be a genuine, sincere response to what you said. If you read it with 'snark' it's going to come off that way but that's not at all how I intend it to be... but I think it is important to have healthy conversations about these kind of things, maybe even to just open someone's eyes to a whole new world if nothing else...

I first want to say that the magical number of 3 in your statement is hilarious as if the number of times you do something changes anything, maybe I missed that math class lol. Before I got in the industry, I would have said if you do it once, you are gay or bi... so 3 times, dang! Numbers mean nothing and it's silly to imply that. (I chose to use 'silly' b/c it sounds a lot less negative than 'foolish'... trying to keep this post positive ) What about prisoners? They've fucked a thousand times, are they gay???

The second part is where you say "and you like it." I don't ever recall saying that we all "like" sucking dick or getting fucked. If anything, I wish I liked it more so I could get into it more and put on an even better show. At the end of the day, you have to realize that we might not "like" getting fucked or sucking dick but we do "like" putting on a great show and we do "like" putting out a great product. We are performers, that's what we do. Al Pacino isn't really a drug-dealer, Matt Damon isn't really Jason Bourne, and Tom Hanks isn't any of the hundreds of amazing roles that he's played but when you're watching these films, you believe it because they are good at what they do. If people watch our videos and come to the conclusion that we are gay, then bravo to us, we make it look good.

It doesn't bother us when people say that about our videos, but it is frustrating when people judge how we are off-camera based only on how we act on-camera. What I am saying is that you can't jump to a conclusion based on such a small part of someones life. That would be like me making my entire judgment of you based off of your single post on this blog. I'm sure you are way different than that. If you haven't already, I kindly invite you to read some of our back story on a separate thread- it doesn't give you the whole story but it might give you a better idea of where we are coming from.

One of the things you might not realize is that for two years, we both had bosses that told us we were nothing- we were replaceable and incapable of being successful in this industry without them. That's one of the biggest motivations we have, not only to prove to them, but to prove to ourselves that with enough dedication and will-power, we are capable and talented enough to make AustinZane.com one of the hottest sites around.

Another thing that kinda bugs me is that some people are so naive to think that there's only 3 possible options for us complex humans; Straight, Gay, or Bi. That's it, pick one and live with it- you said it yourself, "accept it and move on." I get it when ultra-conservatives see what we do and immediately label us as gay, but when a member of the gay community swears up and down that they know us better than we know ourselves, it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth. To me it seems like the gay community has come a long, long way to being accepted and being recognized as equals that it kinda blows my mind that some can still be close-minded to the thought that just maybe there's open-minded straight guys out there that love entertaining and will stop at nothing to put out a quality product, which leads me to my next question...and this is open to everybody, I wanna hear what a lot of people think:

Where does YOUR sexuality come from? Is it your brain, your heart, or your dick? Or is it a combination of all 3? The reason I ask is because I've been put in situations before where I've had a "person of power" (for legal reasons) using their "power" to have their way with me. I was completely repulsed by this person and I hated being put in that situation, but my dick liked having a mouth on it, so it was hard. So when you are in a situation like that where there is not 1 single ounce of attraction towards that individual, but your dick is still able to get hard because a blow-job is a blow-job, how do you categorize that? I think it's healthy to ask these types of questions- maybe it should be its own thread.

Austin and I both came from very small, conservative towns in the midwest. We didn't really know any gay people growing up so when we moved to Vegas, it was a total culture shock. We can both say now that some of our closest friends are gay and our AustinZane fans are amazing people. While our current cast of models are all indeed straight (whether you believe it or not), we aren't opposed to having gay guys on our site. If anything, we would love to help bridge the gap of acceptance because we know that leaving our small towns and opening our eyes to becoming accepting of all types has only enriched our lives and we know that we are better people because of it. I was absolutely terrified for my identical-twin brother to find out about my gay-porn life. When he came to Vegas and got to see my entire situation (including meeting the bosses that said we were nothings) his whole attitude about everything changed. Guess who is now a part of the AustinZane group? yep, my twin brother.

So try to keep and open-mind and understand that there is probably so much more to the story than what you are seeing... not every person with baggy jeans is a gang-banger. I fantasize about my girlfriend, I can't wait to sleep with my girlfriend, I have a mad-desire to just be with my girlfriend... I don't have those same feelings about guys. But I will do everything in my power to make sure AustinZane.com is one of the hottest sites around... if that means fucking 3 dudes or 1,003 dudes, She knows what I do and she supports what we're trying to do.

The last part of your statement is about Queerty going under. (I don't really know what that is, sorry ) I can say that I have been a part of a site in the past that went under and the reason for that was horrible customer service and financial decisions. Maybe that was what Queerty did wrong? I dunno, all I know is that one of the things we learned from being a part of the site-that-went-under is that we learned what not to do. That's why when we built AustinZane, we listened to hundreds of fan's suggestions and we're still making adjustments to get it just right. With hard work, determination, a strong focus on customer service, and a dedication to bringing our fans what they want, AustinZane can continue to produce something fresh and unique to the industry and maybe fill the void that was left by sites that lost their focus

I hope I did a good job on replying to you, and I hope this thread opens a few minds to having a healthy conversation about sexuality and the industry in general... thanks buddy and if you are ever in Vegas, look us up- we'd love to give you the chance to get to know who we are off-camera

 

[swerve]

^You always wear your heart on your sleeve...

And that is a VERY attractive quality...

REGARDLESS of your sexuality...

 

[bankside]

There are a lot of gay people who are tired of other gay men faking being straight out of cowardice to face the hatred and discrimination that can come our way.

Maybe as a porn actor you can appreciate a little bit of what it is like to be dumped on by judgemental hypocrites just for what you do. I try to stick up for porn actors on here, who often get treated like shit by people who want to look down on porn actors as sluts who are beneath them. But they still watch every chance they get. It's the same kind of stupid discrimination. The difference is, you chose your career, while gay people have been facing discrimination sometimes even before they themselves figured out they were gay.

And after a lifetime of hoping to be straight, trying to hide behind a fake straight image, when they finally grow the balls to be themselves, the straight act wears thin pretty quick.

I hope that a straight guy, acting gay, can appreciate why he's kind of hitting a sore spot for a lot of people.

You know what, the truth is you look like you're having fun together. But if you'd rather be fucking women, I'd honestly rather watch you fucking women. But maybe that's just my fetish. I like to see guys doing what they love best.

 

[pmgunnerxx]

Very well put

*edit* that was directed at AustinZane sorry didn't realize others had already posted after that one

 

[littlebin]

handsome guys, it is good to do with good friends

 

[AustinZane]

There are a lot of gay people who are tired of other gay men faking being straight out of cowardice to face the hatred and discrimination that can come our way.

Maybe as a porn actor you can appreciate a little bit of what it is like to be dumped on by judgemental hypocrites just for what you do. I try to stick up for porn actors on here, who often get treated like shit by people who want to look down on porn actors as sluts who are beneath them. But they still watch every chance they get. It's the same kind of stupid discrimination. The difference is, you chose your career, while gay people have been facing discrimination sometimes even before they themselves figured out they were gay.

And after a lifetime of hoping to be straight, trying to hide behind a fake straight image, when they finally grow the balls to be themselves, the straight act wears thin pretty quick.

I hope that a straight guy, acting gay, can appreciate why he's kind of hitting a sore spot for a lot of people.

You know what, the truth is you look like you're having fun together. But if you'd rather be fucking women, I'd honestly rather watch you fucking women. But maybe that's just my fetish. I like to see guys doing what they love best.

You make a very good point about a perspective that I hadn't considered. That's why I think it's good to have these types of discussions. But yes, we are having a blast creating the site Maybe it's the competitiveness inside us, but it's been such a challenge trying to raise the bar and get it right. There's been times after a shoot where we're all excited and we're like "they are going to love this shoot" when we feel that we really went above and beyond and then there's also been times where I've been like "we can do better." This time around, it's different because everybody on board has the same common goal, to make AustinZane the best. Nobody we film with is doing it because they are obligated or worried they'll lose their job if they don't do it. We've got a good thing going here and it's exciting to watch it grow and evolve!

 

[heroesnhunks]

Best Of Luck!!!!

 

[LikesDudes2]

Awfully long explanation...sounds like you're trying to convince yourself more than others...as to the 3 dicks...once can be curiosity, second could be re evaluation, the third is confirmation- you like it- that's bi on any scale

I agree. Looking at these pictures, I'm not sure how you can make the argument that they aren't bisexual. I mean he has a dick in his ass.

 

[texan_slant]

OK, so I've quoted the super important points in Austin Zane's response here, and am neither pro nor con to everyone's posts - just making some points here.

What about prisoners? They've fucked a thousand times, are they gay???

Not necessarily. They're getting something out of it - power, intimidation, and control. Again, this proves the point, which you make the good argument for, that it's another label.

...It doesn't bother us when people say that about our videos, but it is frustrating when people judge how we are off-camera based only on how we act on-camera. What I am saying is that you can't jump to a conclusion based on such a small part of someones life.

...Another thing that kinda bugs me is that some people are so naive to think that there's only 3 possible options for us complex humans; Straight, Gay, or Bi. That's it, pick one and live with it- you said it yourself, "accept it and move on."

...So when you are in a situation like that where there is not 1 single ounce of attraction towards that individual, but your dick is still able to get hard because a blow-job is a blow-job, how do you categorize that?

...not every person with baggy jeans is a gang-banger. I fantasize about my girlfriend, I can't wait to sleep with my girlfriend, I have a mad-desire to just be with my girlfriend... I don't have those same feelings about guys.

Well said, because what you have said here is true, and has been said a thousand times on JUB.

Labels are the downfall of society, and without the need to put a label (something black and white) based on sexuality (which isn't black and white) forces you to identify with something that isn't necessarily accurate.

Sexuality is really who you are, and I think that your points above make the good argument FOR this.

With all due respect, though, you're giving us the argument not to label you as gay, when indeed, you're giving yourself the label as "straight". I think that this is where the argument gets blurry.

...cuz actions speak louder than words. And well, normally, if you're having sex with your best friend, this usually changes the Kinsey scale away from "flat-out straight".

We are performers, that's what we do.

BINGO. You're performers/actors, and are doing it to make a living. This is the difference here, folks! I kind of make the analogy here with reality TV. After awhile, with the camera in front, it's no longer reality TV, and it's all just what it is.

...again the downfall here causing the judgements is that you're using a label, when your actions are displaying something different regardless of whether or not it happens only on camera.

If you don't want the judgement, then don't use the label, and don't try too hard to say that you're straight, cuz as you also imply, sexuality isn't just 3 options.

You might have been better off just saying - "best friends start man-on-man porn site".

 

[AustinZane]

BINGO. You're performers/actors, and are doing it to make a living. This is the difference here, folks! I kind of make the analogy here with reality TV. After awhile, with the camera in front, it's no longer reality TV, and it's all just what it is.

...again the downfall here causing the judgements is that you're using a label, when your actions are displaying something different regardless of whether or not it happens only on camera.

If you don't want the judgement, then don't use the label, and don't try too hard to say that you're straight, cuz as you also imply, sexuality isn't just 3 options.

You might have been better off just saying - "best friends start man-on-man porn site".

Well, that's exactly what I'm trying to get people to be more open-minded about. The point that I'm trying to share is that if people are going to be close-minded and jump to a labeling, then that type of action only provokes an equal reaction of defending yourself, so we're back to the 3 main labels unfortunately and if I had to pick 1 of the 3, I would say that I'm straight based on my desires and attractions, not based on what I do for the site. That's why I'm saying that maybe there's a whole different category of open-minded straight guys that don't mind being entertainment or performers... so I think the Kinsey scale is probably more accurate for society than just the 3 main labels... But I do understand what you are saying- Maybe me naming the thread that way, causes the same type of reaction that I'm referring to....

As far as the title of the thread, you might be right as far as it not supporting my side of the discussion, but unless labels go away or change to a more complex accepted naming system, "Straight best friends start gay porn site" pretty much sums up what we are defined as and what we are creating. Maybe a more accurate title could be "Straight best friends off-camera have some of the hottest sex on camera... AustinZane.com!" hahahaha

But back to the magic number of 3... I could totally agree with you if those 3 times weren't on camera for a porn site. If you google 'Fleshbot: straight for pay' you can find an interesting article/video called "Steve Daigle Is Straight For Pay". I remember our old boss showing us this video and it's hilarious to watch a gay-performer being in our shoes for once. But if he did this 2 more times, AAgold76, would that make him straight or bi? I don't think so because you can't manufacture desire. You can probably learn to enjoy something more or be more acceptable to doing something but I bet if he fucked 100 girls, he's still dreaming about guys. And I always have long explanations, check out other topics I've posted on- it's how I roll... I'm writing a book about the whole experience with the industry. So I made this thread to not only spread the word about AustinZane but also to get some different perspectives for my book. I'm really enjoying this thread and I hope other's contribute their thoughts on sexuality and the industry... thanks guys!

 

[AustinZane]

Enjoy your trip to Eygpt...I hear the River's nice this time of year.....and yes- I'd call Stephen bi- if he's been with a woman and enjoyed it- that's bisexuality.....if it were just a job, well- a person can quit a job they don't like...in HS, I woked at Wendy's...loathed it- quit...won't even eat there today. As for writing a book and using people's perspectives in it...I hope you have release forms ready, I for one would rather not be associated with it.

Sorry to hear you loathed your job at Wendy's. We don't loathe our job though. Like I said before, we enjoy a challenge and we're having a good time creating a site for our fans. I'm betting your following employers would have an easier time accepting that you worked at Wendy's than that if you we're a porn actor.
I won't need release forms. Don't worry, no one is being quoted or associated with it. I'm just gauging societies current take on the industry. I'm happy to see that you edited your last response to include something responsive to the conversation instead of just taunting. I must admit, I'm a little surprised that you would consider Stephen bi, I didn't see that coming. I haven't really done any research on him, but is that what a lot have people have said? That's really interesting but thank you for your take on it, that's exactly what I am looking for

 

[LikesDudes2]

Is Zane the dark one? He's a stud. Blonde one is gorgeous though.

 

[pmgunnerxx]

Is Zane the dark one? He's a stud. Blonde one is gorgeous though.

Austin has dark hair, Zane is the blonde.

 

[Poozy1]

Damn nice site and I hope it grows! Good luck guys!