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Straight guys not as straight as they seem

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is it ever posssible for a guy on here to talk about a crush on his best friend and evryone tell him if the friend is gay or not? if i was to tell you about my straight friend then you would label him as gay, even though he isnt. maybe you sometimes are giving advice you cant justify? Me and my friend have kissed, wanked (admittedly when we were drunk) and he always touches me up in a plutonic way, hell ive even made him hard before... but he is as straight as the day is long. Sexuality is more complex then even writing a 2000 word essay on the circumstances. Is a friend you have a crush on ever gay? what is the percentage population of gay males and what are the odds? i think we all just have dreams and convince ourself that things that are plutonic and mutually messing about are in fact mean something to our stright friends. i bet they dont

wish they did tho :sex:
 
Your are right sexuality is more complex than an essay. Your are right there is a significant possible your best friend is straight. At the same time there is a significant possibility he is not.

Me and my friend have kissed, wanked (admittedly when we were drunk) and he always touches me up in a plutonic way, hell ive even made him hard before
I have two good friends who did this for 10 years. Person A convinced Person B that he was straight as day, when he was really gay and has known and accepted that since his teenage years. He was in love with Person A, but was convinced Person A was straight thus he appeared straight and never told Person B the truth for if Person B is straight there is no changing him. He will settle on just having Person B as a friend.

Person B was bi but never had done anything with a man besides his jacking off, blowjob once, and touching each other of Person A. Person B had a really deep crush on Person A, but Person B was a nervous introvert so he buried his feelings for 10 years.

Eventually due to circumstance Person B saw through Person A facade, about 8 months ago, and the truth finally came out between the two. They have been dating since then, and are in madly in love, with this 8 months being the happiest days of there life so far (there words not mine).

So yes your best friend can be straight, your best friend can be gay, your best friend can be bi. Only person who really knows is your best friend. You know far better than us since you know your best friend, but even people like you have been wrong before, as my personal experience shows otherwise.
 
IMHO straight men NEVER venture into that world of touchy feely with other guys.
 
Thats true, i dont even know if he is or not... id love a blistering romance! i suppose you cna only go on what signs they give. I mean, he has a girlfriend (who is actually hot from a gay guys point of view thats saying something!) and there have been many times that things could have happened but he doesnt persure them. i think its almost now like a bravado ( gay bravado... oxymoron??!) that progressed from slapping my ass atc to 'i cant wait to fuck you next time i see you'
thinking about it... he could be. is there really such thing as gaydar? i always wondered if that was a myth....
 
Well man all experiences are different. But from mine I will tell you that if you figure yourself to be a gay guy, dont' have anything to do with guys that say they are straight or bi. Just leave them alone. Doesn't matter is you have a crush on them man, or if you can make them hard. If they don't call themselves gay then you will only leave yourself open to hurt. That is a definate man. Count on it.
 
I think I understand your question. No it is not possible for you or anyone else to tell us about a crush they have for another person and have us tell you whether he is gay or not. Only the person you have a crush on can tell you that.
When you ask a question here on JUB, you are getting opinions from different people, some of us are gay and have been out a long time, some not out yet, some just out, some are bi, some are female, and some are straight. All you get are opinions and as such, no one has to justify their opinions.
What you won't get is put down, called names or be made to feel bad. That is called "flaming"
Here on JUB, we are like a big extended community, here for one another. Sure we can have our tiffs, and some don't like others but that is like the real world and here we have all ages of people from all over the world.

And I too wish that every guy I had a crush on was gay...but they weren't in real life. But I have my fantasies where they are! (*8*)
 
Sorry victoriadon it didnt mean to sound as if i didnt like everyones advice..., im new to posting and i really enjoy getting to know people and peoples experiences and therefore their advice. i was just wondering if you can ever know for sure whether someone is gay because of such a wide spectrum of sexuality, not mentioning social classes, situations, ages etc etc. If a guy kisses a guy in many peoples eyes that would be gay but i am relatively convinced that sometimes it means nothing to the other guy ( i know a lot of people will dissagree!) for example, many of my friends comment on good looking guys such as 'hes too good looking for her' whereas others may think that a guy commenting on a guys hottness constitutes gay tendancies.
and again, its great to chat to you guys.. cheers
 
Yes straight guys can recognize other guys are hot, it is natural, they are competition ;). If they are secure in their sexuality they may even say so. Some of those guys who say this are actually bi, but some of those bi guys vastly prefer women even before you enter "societies expectations" on them.

Kissing guys though is rarely done by straight men (notice there is a huge difference than recongizing a guy as hot and volunteering kissing a guy several times on several occasions). Maybe when they are young and first experimenting, but as you get older there is less likely for it to occur. Most likely you have a bi to gay guy ;) Now there is a chance that the straight person is really straight, and is using you for an emotional power trip (let me string you along, confuse you, for it empowers my self image) but this is rare, more than likely the person is really bi or gay.
 
Oh ok, to me "gay" is in the mind, I will try to explain. A mental connection, a "bond" that someone has/feels for members of their own sex that cannot be satisfied by a member of the other sex. When I am "with" another male I feel secure, content, happy etc., an extreme closeness that I have not ever felt with a female. I just "bond" with guys.
Sex is just sex. Don't get me wrong, sex is great, but a person can "get off" with his hand or objects and feel satisfied. To me "gay" is much much more than just the sex act. Gay, bi, straight, we all, I hope, seek "love" and for me' as a gay man. I only feel that "love" for another male.
A kiss can mean just a kiss, without sexual feelings involved. A guy that kisses other guys may have been brought up that way and doesn't think twice about it, like hugging another guy, or slapping another guys ass in the shower or on the playing field. If there is no "intimate" feelings there, I would hazzard a guess that he isn't gay. If there is and he is drunk...it could be the booze.
Like a poster below said, if the guy says he is straight or bi, I personally, will not get involved with them, I personally don't need their "baggage", but that is "involved" in a sexual way, I have straight and bi friends and am close to them, but I will not cross that line and involve sex, it wouldn't be fair to them or me.
 
I can totally understand not getting involved with a straight/bi guy. If they feel nothing for you then it can be hard, but then surely you can get that from any relationship? I think it must be a hard line to distinguish between freidnship and love (or whatever you want to call it) because you can feel close, content happy and at ease with a friend as much as a partner, so the sex must be very significant. but then saying that ive never been in love so i suppose when i do, the line will be a lot easier to distinguish?
 
A 100% str-8 guy won't touch you between your legs ... as a Bi Curious guy probably would ....

I don't believe a str-8 guy will kiss another guy .... BUT will a str-8 guy allow another guy to kiss him ? I wonder ??
 
A 100% str-8 guy won't touch you between your legs ... as a Bi Curious guy probably would ....

I don't believe a str-8 guy will kiss another guy .... BUT will a str-8 guy allow another guy to kiss him ? I wonder ??

I think so. It is like I once read: Straight guys (if they "had to") would rather choose to give another guy head than kiss him on the lips, cause they say that it is "too emotional."

In this case, they could just apply the same logic.

A bi-curious guy could keep his "man-card" by saying that he was curious and that the other guy kissed him and not the other way around. This reconciles the cognitive dissonnace that they may go through and they still get to kiss another guy, if only for the experience.
 
Ive witnessed straight guys kissing, but i think it is the social enviroment. like for example in dares, or in drunked stupidity. In a werid way i think its seen as matcho, but of course with tounges i dont think they could get away with it. My straight friend kisses me. it started off as a ittle peck and then he said one day im gonna proper kiss you and went in. Now i wont lie, it was far from romantic! but it was still a kiss and since then it has been more relaxed and kisses me all the time, still more of a joke than ever a sensual kiss. i dont think he would do it in public, but then thats because people would take it in the wrong way for him. The more i chat about it the more i think he may be curious but i swear he is straight! hehe. well at least there has been opportunities that he has never taken...
 
Does it really matter what you label your friend as?

So what he is curious, does that change your friendship in any way?
 
he's prolly bi curious, but not enough to actually explore it.. unless he's totally f'd up. lol
 
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