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Straight people really suck

davy

davy

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Because, when they think you're straight, they'll really let you know what they think about those "faggots" but when they're at work, they'll pretend to "have nothing against them"

And I'm not talking about some alabamian inbred fools; I'm talking about ivy league educated, well respected, very rich and influential silicon valley, california software engineers. (No wonder we lost prop 8 )

And it's not a west coast thing; when I was closeted, I'm ashamed to admit how many "faggot" conversations I heard from new york, high class homophobes that couldn't wait to be nice to really flaming queers when people where watching; but made fun of them when they thought they were in the company of their fellow breeders.

I guess the saying from queer as folk is true... There are only two kinds of breeders: those that hate you to your face and those that hate you behind your back.

Never go out drinking with them because you'll learn that I'm right; like I did.

En vino veritas.
 
Dude, I agree. I don't know what the hell I am but when people shoot remarks about 'those fags/dykes' I find myself personally offended. And I'm the argumentative type, so it never really ends well because I make a jackass of myself afterward. I actually like to say "Yeah, those straighties do some weird shit too" and they just give me this look that I find quite priceless.

Just mark them down as ignorant or someone not to talk to. I've been able to persuade and talk to people skillfully enough to see the other side and become less aggressive, though. Depends on how fed up you get with it.
 
Way too stereotype people, dude...
the same way straight people stereotype all gay people.

:/
 
321blastoff said:
Dude, I agree. I don't know what the hell I am but when people shoot remarks about 'those fags/dykes' I find myself personally offended. And I'm the argumentative type, so it never really ends well because I make a jackass of myself afterward. I actually like to say "Yeah, those straighties do some weird shit too" and they just give me this look that I find quite priceless.

Just mark them down as ignorant or someone not to talk to. I've been able to persuade and talk to people skillfully enough to see the other side and become less aggressive, though. Depends on how fed up you get with it.
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I have marked them down; but considering they're my coworkers and every bigwig in silicon valley knows each other; I can kiss my career goodbye if I never talk to them again.

And I let them know VERY clearly that I'm one of those faggots and I think they're dicks for making fun of them. So, on monday, assuming I still have a job, I give my two weeks notice.

Bleh ... Being a man sucks sometimes.
 
jesusfarts said:
Way too stereotype people, dude...
the same way straight people stereotype all gay people.

:/
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it'd be unfair to say all straight people are gay-bashers. I just wanna say sorry if my post came off stereotypical.

Although I'm just gonna throw out there that I don't recall the last time I met a straight person who acted entirely normal after a discussion on sexuality or after someone has outed themselves.
 
jesusfarts said:
Way too stereotype people, dude...
the same way straight people stereotype all gay people.

:/
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Isn't it funny how, when they're your own experiences and others don't have those same experiences; it's just (somehow) a stereotype?

God help me!
 
321blastoff said:
it'd be unfair to say all straight people are gay-bashers. I just wanna say sorry if my post came off stereotypical.

Although I'm just gonna throw out there that I don't recall the last time I met a straight person who acted entirely normal after a discussion on sexuality or after someone has outed themselves.
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I can't remember the last time I met a straight person who had any real problem with it, besides my mother - and she'll get over it.
 
Jeimuzu said:
I can't remember the last time I met a straight person who had any real problem with it, besides my mother - and she'll get over it.
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I REALLY envy you right now. :(
 
davy said:
I have marked them down; but considering they're my coworkers and every bigwig in silicon valley knows each other; I can kiss my career goodbye if I never talk to them again.

And I let them know VERY clearly that I'm one of those faggots and I think they're dicks for making fun of them. So, on monday, assuming I still have a job, I give my two weeks notice.

Bleh ... Being a man sucks sometimes.
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Ah, I didn't think about that...

I really wish it wasn't a big deal for those straighties, ;) and that everyone could get along without a hitch. I'm obv. asking for a miracle, but it's nice to wish.

You could always confront one of them and say something to the effect of "Look, my sexuality has nothing to do with my employment here. If you're going to fire me, you've got no actual reason for doing so" etc etc etc. I'm saying that with the assumption that you're likely to get fired, so you might as well go out fighting, right?


and Jeimuzu, that's really awesome, but everyone has their own experiences which is probably why people find others stereotypical all of the time. My dad has this real weird thing with black people because he'd had a bad experience with a few and now he won't fucking shut up about it. and he doesn't even relate those experiences with any negative ones with white people or any other race. Simply because of how he remembers it. [ I'm NOT saying that this is how you are with straight people, or how me and davy are. just throwing that out there.]

truth is there's judgmental people from all minorities and large groups alike, etc.
 
Life is too short to worry about what other people are saying or thinking. Just respect my equal rights and I can take care of myself. (And don't beat me up...)
 
I can't recall the last time I ran into homophobia other than, oh, on TV or on messageboards. And I live in Colorado, supposedly one of those closed-minded spots.

My partner's father - military, anti-anything left of center - was in town for a couple days this past week. He took both of us to a friend's house for dinner. Judging by the decor, they're born-again Christians, or at least heavy-duty into their religion. And we spent the night chatting, swapping stories, laughing, having a great time. No Biblical lecture, no weird looks, nothing.

I'm somewhat "stealth faggy" myself. Many people don't know I'm gay when they first meet me, although they can usually figure it out - either through something I say or do - eventually. (Co-worker 1, after staff party: "I think Lex might be gay." Co-worker 2: "What was your first clue? Him making out with his boyfriend?") But I still don't recall getting anything even vaguely homophobic tossed my way in recent memory. Maybe I just hang out with a more enlightened group of folks.

Lex
 
Davy, I feel for ya! Good luck!

Lex, don't be so sure that behind your back, as Davy has said, they aren't saying something different.

My partners family is very friendly and accommodating to me. At his grandma's 95th birthday I was included in the family photo. They took several that day but I was included in at least one.

Two years later I happened on a family photo album as they were showing off photos of their new house. In that album was "the photo" of the birthday.

I was not in that picture!

So the point is, no matter how respectful and cool people are, you never really know how they REALLY feel and what they REALLY say behind your back.
 
I only agree with you if we're talking about strangers. I don't give a shit what they say behind my back.

But if I'm going to spend every holiday at somebody's house then I do care. I don't want the friendship or relationship to be a fraud. I want it real.

I don't want to be working somewhere where my coworkers are good to me and then I find out they talk shit behind my back. If they're my friends to my face I do care if they talk shit behind my back.

If they're not friends to my face, then you're right. Who cares what they think? I don't.
 
It's sad, really.

They're just trying to boost their own miserable lack of self esteem by beating on others.

They don't just do it to gays, they do it to everyone. Including each other.
 
The Matter Of Splatter said:
Who honestly gives a fuck what people say behind your back?
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Everybody should, because that's how false friends start. You think you found some people you can talk about everything, because they are nice to you. But once you really need "a friend" to help you out, nobody will want to because you're the fag.

Fake edit: wrote that before reading JNewYork's comment.
 
I still have friends who use words like homo, queer, and fag negatively in my presence despite the fact that they know I'm gay. It really pisses me off, and when I feel the need to, I'll tell them that.

That doesn't make every straight person that way though. I have other straight friends that actively petition for gay rights in states in which they don't even live.

Just like any group of people, it's a mixed bag. I might catch hell for this, but isn't this thread essentially doing the same thing to straight people in regards to saying things about them behind their back?
 
Adrock said:
It's sad, really.

They're just trying to boost their own miserable lack of self esteem by beating on others.

They don't just do it to gays, they do it to everyone. Including each other.
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I completely agree with you there, when they are having those conversations that you as a person and you happen to walk up, it funny how fast the topic switches to someone else. All because they don't want to be a big meany to your face.
 
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