Stuck in a rut

[slnattak]

You can't save him, the straight guy can't save him. I've loved so many guys myself that could not come out of the closet. I'm usually the only one with balls to say I'm gay everywhere I go.

He needs to get his own spine- and only then can he be loved and love others.

I bet he's still dependent on his parents.

 

[godson112]

I need more information, I've had similiar experiences with this. But I'm going to need more details.

Now this straight guy friend. Is he teasing your gay friend, playing with his emotions? If so- instead of fighting amongst each other, I would team up and call the straight guy out on his shit. Believe me, straight guys aren't so tough - you can handle it.

Or is this so-called straight guy not even really straight at all but another closet case, and more drama unfolds that way? Is he one of those guys that can't deal with a gay label, is to chicken shit to hold hands with a guy in public- but LOVES mansex nonetheless? I know PLENTY of 'straight guys' like that myself. They do also claim to love women, but do I ever see it? NO.

Look, there has to be SOMETHING the straight guy is doing to making him go head over heels for him. He might be protecting him - many gay guys like to be protected a bit too much instead of having to do the protecting.

Your gay friend is being an idiot, but it sounds like the straight guy is being a typical straight male predator and trying to go after a perceived weakness. I would do the same thing. I would totally give the cold shoulder to the nice gay boy that was flirting with me, and I went with this mean straight boy that only broke my heart. It's very immature, but some gay guys do grow up, I promise!

What happens is- and this is the only way gay boys learn it seems: He's going to actually need to have SEX with the straight guy to get over his attractions. I'm serious. It will never happen, but the thought that it might happen is too appetizing for him- so make it happen! It's the ONLY thing that will work. Some how, you're gonna have to get those two naked and prove that he's not gonna be able to please him - because he's straight! Maybe then will he get some self-confidence.

Maybe you and the straight guy (assuming he's an innocent and likeable standby and not somebody that is manipulating here) can also team up to teach him a lesson. Oh God, I am so for calling people out on their shit. He needs to have a hard wake up call. Funnily enough, as much as we crush after straight guys- when we actually have sex with them - we see just how straight they are, and it's not sexy anymore.

The straight guy is naturally more appealing to him now, because there is more mystery. You're trying too hard, and that is turning him off. If you really, really want him - then try to be mysterious like the 'straight guy' but he really doesn't sound like he's worth it to be honest!

I'm available right now. So hey.

Ooh, I like this post.
Well the straight guy is adamant that he is straight. I've known him for about 5 years, and I had my suspicions he was gay when I first met him, but all through out friendship, he's admitted he's camp, but is adamant that he is straight. He is a virgin though, he's not had sex with a man or a woman, but he makes out with girls at parties and he's had girlfriends, he's just never had sex (but he is younger than me and my gay friend).

As far as I know there is no teasing going on. The straight guy isn't a very emotion person at all and is really quite frigid. Although he's adamant he's straight, I wouldn't be surprised if he did come out as gay or bisecxual. But even if they did and they got together, they wouldn't last, they argue a lot and just aren't really compatiable.

The reason my gay friend fell for him in the first place is because a few months ago, they stayed over eachothers houses because they live quite far away from eachother, and they talked a lot, and my gay friend said that the straight guy said a lot of things that made him seem confused about his sexuality.

I liked the idea of your plan, but mainly because I know if they did get together, it'd mess their friendship up beyond belief. My gay friend has said that although he likes the straight guy, he couldn't get together with him because if he did turn out to be gay because he would be annoyed that he had been lied to all this time.

And me and the straight guy absolutely despise eachother lol.
I used to really really like my gay friend, and the straight guy used to bad mouth me to him, so we had a big arguement, and we haven't spoken for a while.

And even if we were speaking, he wouldn't sleep with him if I asked him to, he wouldn't help me in this situation.

 

[EvilForce]

Ooh, I like this post.
Well the straight guy is adamant that he is straight. I've known him for about 5 years, and I had my suspicions he was gay when I first met him, but all through out friendship, he's admitted he's camp, but is adamant that he is straight. He is a virgin though, he's not had sex with a man or a woman, but he makes out with girls at parties and he's had girlfriends, he's just never had sex (but he is younger than me and my gay friend).

As far as I know there is no teasing going on. The straight guy isn't a very emotion person at all and is really quite frigid. Although he's adamant he's straight, I wouldn't be surprised if he did come out as gay or bisecxual. But even if they did and they got together, they wouldn't last, they argue a lot and just aren't really compatiable.

The reason my gay friend fell for him in the first place is because a few months ago, they stayed over eachothers houses because they live quite far away from eachother, and they talked a lot, and my gay friend said that the straight guy said a lot of things that made him seem confused about his sexuality.

I liked the idea of your plan, but mainly because I know if they did get together, it'd mess their friendship up beyond belief. My gay friend has said that although he likes the straight guy, he couldn't get together with him because if he did turn out to be gay because he would be annoyed that he had been lied to all this time.

And me and the straight guy absolutely despise eachother lol.
I used to really really like my gay friend, and the straight guy used to bad mouth me to him, so we had a big arguement, and we haven't spoken for a while.

And even if we were speaking, he wouldn't sleep with him if I asked him to, he wouldn't help me in this situation.

Wow, that exceeded my drama quotient for the week, and none of you have slept together yet.

My advice, instead of getting wasted drunk have two beers/cocktails and make it a goal to get a cute boys phone number at the party.

 

[godson112]

I know it's so much drama.
Whatever happened to just saying "Do you want to be fuck buddies?" and then replying "Yeah" and then just having sex.
Thats what it should have been like but he bloody well backed out.
Well, it's party time tonight so I'll let everyone know what happens. I'm leaving in a few hours so any quick advice before I go?

 

[Just_Believe18]

I'm leaving in a few hours so any quick advice before I go?

Don't hold your breath.

 

[godson112]

Well, the nights been and gone. Complete disaster.
I got really drunk, half way through the party this girl kissed him (theres a long story behind them, they liked eachother months ago, it didn't work, me and the girl made really good friends, I poured my heart out to her for months telling her everything about me and him, she knew exactly how I felt about him when I really liked him, she knew it all, she said she didn't like him anymore etc and she wouldn't get in the way of anything between me and him, what a liar), I stormed off, got lost, phoned him up, shouted at him, made him give me directions back, argued with him some more, went straight to bed and apologised the next morning but of course I'm still quite angry.
Too much has happened this week for him to have sex with me when nobody cares, but he can easily kiss someone he knows by doing so will cause huge problems.
It's a really confusing situation.

 

[ejbonk]

I think everybody was drunk and being asses. Calm down and move forward with your life. He's not worth the Hassel and Drama. Go find someone that will appreciate you for you.

 

[EvilForce]

Well, the nights been and gone. Complete disaster.
I got really drunk, half way through the party this girl kissed him (theres a long story behind them, they liked eachother months ago, it didn't work, me and the girl made really good friends, I poured my heart out to her for months telling her everything about me and him, she knew exactly how I felt about him when I really liked him, she knew it all, she said she didn't like him anymore etc and she wouldn't get in the way of anything between me and him, what a liar), I stormed off, got lost, phoned him up, shouted at him, made him give me directions back, argued with him some more, went straight to bed and apologised the next morning but of course I'm still quite angry.
Too much has happened this week for him to have sex with me when nobody cares, but he can easily kiss someone he knows by doing so will cause huge problems.
It's a really confusing situation.

LOL! What part of any of this is a surprise? This was exactly what we predicted you would do. You did exactly what you wanted to do. You self-destructed on the launch pad Houston. This had nothing to do with him, or her. You were going to find fault regardless, unless everything went exactly the way you wanted it to, which never happens in life, so you imploded everything.

 

[godson112]

LOL! What part of any of this is a surprise? This was exactly what we predicted you would do. You did exactly what you wanted to do. You self-destructed on the launch pad Houston. This had nothing to do with him, or her. You were going to find fault regardless, unless everything went exactly the way you wanted it to, which never happens in life, so you imploded everything.

Ok I don't agree with that at all.
But whatever, we're friends now, we sorted it all out so it's all good.

 

[954dude]

There's too much drama going on. He's not the only guy alive! Put the liquor down and think about how this is having an affect on you. Is he really worth it? Hell no!

 

[godson112]

There's too much drama going on. He's not the only guy alive! Put the liquor down and think about how this is having an affect on you. Is he really worth it? Hell no!

I guess you're right.
It's just difficult. He's been teasing me a lot lately, showing me his muscles, letting me feel them (including chest muscles), sending me a topless picture of himself to 'show me his sunburn'.
He knows exactly what he's doing and it's driving me wild.

 

[G-Lexington]

Yeah, the popular term f or what he's doing is "fucking with your head". Or "teasing", if you don't like profanity.

Feel free to stand there and stare at the baked goods, and have your hand slapped away every time you reach for one. But if you're gonna go up the river without a paddle, don't go bitching at the river for making it tough.

Lex

 

[ejbonk]

Go find yourself a nice gay/Bi guy and settle down. Forget this dick tease.