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Skinny Dipping: Fun in the Sun [/h]
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September 5th, 2015, 04:06 PM

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Comment As posted by "BudnBos" on Freeballing.com: I did skinnydipping for the first time this summer, and it was awesome... being in the water and at the beach nude. Most everyone else was nude also so it was no big deal.

It may not be a big deal as far as flashing goes, but it's still a great thing to be nude and enjoying the surf and sand -Skinnydipping at San Onofre (see pic at right) -- that's the whole point of skinnydipping. I try to do that all summer long and whenever I can any time. I love getting out to Black's Beach in San Diego, Baker Beach in San Francisco, Russian River at Guerneville (CA) and San Onofre State Beach (just south of Orange County (CA) on I-5 (one hour north of San Diego).

I had fun there in February and March , and met up with one of my flasher buddies from the Net at Black's Beach near San Diego (See his photo at left below).

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Of course, it's more thrilling to try to get naked (with or without the swimming) at the pool, or jacuzzi, or the beach or anywhere that nudity isn't expected.

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I used to teach at a school (K-12) that had a pool. Since I had a key to the locker room (with access to the pool), I would sometimes go late at night and swim naked in the pool. I found out later on that one of male teacher had done the same but got caught and in trouble. Eventually, they beefed up security and put a stop to all late night swimming (changed locks).
Deserted stretch at Waipio Valley (photo)
Somtimes, it's possible to get naked in a hotel pool or jacuzzi when not many people are around. At other times, I've tried going completely naked from my tent to the campground toilet / shower - at night of course - while camping. Have stripped and gone skinny dipping at many places - public parks, state and national parks - Yosemite has some (cold water freezes your balls!) great places for that.

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The Big Island (actually part of all the islands of Hawaii) have many beaches where it's possible to skinnydip without offending others. Waipio Valley - out from Honokaa in the northeastern area of the Big Island has a great place where people frequently (spontaneously - not a regular practice and probably frowned on since there are tourists (from the US mainland - Bible-belters) but once you descend the steep road down the valley entrance (on foot - of course), you can cross the fresh water river that flows into the ocean, and go to the northern (deserted) stretch of the beach. I've seen many people get naked there (including me and friends) for skinnydipping. People can just see tiny figures bobbing around from their lookout point at the time.
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Kehena Black Sand Beach (Puna Coast, Big Island)

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Of course, my all-time favorite place to skinnydip is Kehena Black Sand's Beach on Hawaii's Puna coast. It's not just about showing your goodies on a nude beach. It's a marvelous place where nature's splendour, the chance to swim with dolphins and see whales, mix with the convivial atmosphere of the local tradition of a hippie holiday romp on the beach - complete with all sorts of naked and semi-clothed characters - all of whom are welcoming, tolerant, and often buzzed.

One of the best kept secrets is Beach 67 on South Kohala on the wester (leeward) site of the Big Island. It's just a short walk (drive) from Waialea Beach (Beach 69). The numbers comes from telephone pole numbers on the old Puako-Waialea Road that runs between Puako and Hapuna Beach State Park just off of Hwy 19, north of Waikoloa. Beach 67 is a small co-ed, nudist beach that can also get cruisy at times.
Of course, one of my favorite nude beaches is probably the world's largest nude beach. It is called Maspalomas Beach, located on the island of Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands (a couple of hours flight time from Madrid or Barcelona). Here I am hiking nude across the enormous sand dunes along the beach. There are always hundreds of naked men, many of whom are cruising in the huge semi-forested area just back from the dunes. At night, it fun to hang out at the bars and discos in the giant Yumbo Shopping Center.

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Planning a Joint Event sponsored by members of Tribe / Dudesnude / JustUsboys, Recon, Manhunt, A4A (SF Bay Area)

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How about a joint Tribe.net, JUB (JustUsBoys.com), Dudesnude, Adam4Adam, and Manhunt (etc) Gathering or Party?
Do you think it could be possible? Why? How? Where? When?
Got any ideas about how to make it work?

We're having a planning week for working on the idea of a joint event during the week of Jan. 21-28.
See this Eventbrite event (Plannning Event for a Joint JustUsBoys Dudesnude Tribe.net Adam4adam Manhunt Grindr Recon Gathering)

www.eventbrite.com/e/plannn...681373383

It seems that JUB (JustusBoys.com) members and even Tribe.net members are hosting small gatherings across the US. So I'm wondering if guys on Dudesnude.com, Adam4adam.com, Manhunt.net, Gaydar.com Grindr.com, Recon, etc, would be interested in organizing some private parties or one giant party or event -- either in the USA or Europe (or both or even elsewhere)?

Is anyone here actually participating in those -- attending and/or planning? I wonder if another large online virtual community like Dudesnude.com could do the same? Would there be any benefit of trying to hold a joint party/gathering?

That brings up the idea of a "joint" cross-group event - -but after all, isn't that what PRIDE events or the annual street fairs are all about (such as Southern Decadence). I am not nixing the idea of a separate Tribe.net Off-Line Mixer, or exclusive Dudesnude.com party or a RECON convention or some other event. Those single site (organizations) events certainly can and do happen.

I am just making some suggestions so a larger, more inclusive co-sponsored event might actually happen. For example, we could hook-up with an existing event and thus attract more Tribe / Manhunt / JUB (Just Us Boys) or Dudesnude members to attend. I am also explaining what I think is needed to be decided in order to get one organized.

 

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Not sure if he shaved but his pubes were very smooth anyway. When I skinned his hoody back off

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the large node under it, a beauty of a knob slid out, shiny with a long taper, not a light pink like mine, but more light brown like his skin colour is, and his balls were nice and firm, smooth, big an uptight, a great wad chamber. Fuck I was so hard man, it felt like my dick was gonna tear through the cloth to surface and get some air as he reached over and squeezed its tent! I didn't react, I might have before, but I was enjoying this, completely forgetting Andy now. Sorry Andy. Then he worked mine down and finally, relief as it snapped up, vibrating like a tuning fork and he raised his brow as he wrapped his fist around it, "Holy pig! So big. Must be 20 -21 cm, oh, almost 8" in America". I never liked to be naked around any guys because it attracted attention and I was a little shy, but sure glad he liked it. And he was dead on, obviously a connoisseur, the last time Andy measured it (bet you hsve too) it was 7 3/4", and he was into math, using ruler and calipers. Straight, 20 degrees off vertical when hard, diameter 1 1/2", knob length 1 3/4", knob flare 1 3/4" diameter, left nad 1 1/4 " and down 3", right nad 1" and down 2 3/4"and best squirt shot, only once, throat, 12". Oh and bush trimmed and shaped 1 X 3 1/2" blond rectangle. Yes, he was into math, enjoying measuring it, but not orallyling it, yet.

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"Beauty cock! But you not American?" I tilted my head, "No, why do you ask?" "American, Muslim and Jew cut end of dick off, look ugly" then slid the skin down on my shaft, rolling my hoody off, "See, nice and juicy, tasty, not all wrinkly, must taste now" He bent over and molested my throbber and he was good, swiping his tongue up the underside of my tender tip as I reacted by grabbing his offending orb by the hair, squeezing it, then he teased with a tongue swirl and followed by slipping his lips over the tip, and sucking on it a couple times. Wow, he was good, real good. Too good. He rose up and licked his lips, "Ver good, now you try Thai treat?"


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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:27:00 +0200 From: dickydoo2@gmx.com Subject:
Thai Treats THAI TREATS Wow, was I ever thrilled! My dad asked me if I wanted to join him on his business trip to Thailand for 3 weeks in the summer! Man, I love to travel and had just read about it and its varied culture and countryside in our Geography class. But also was torn too, because I was now 14 and wanted to spend the summer with friends, especially my new boyfriend Andy.


Yes I call him that because I'm pretty sure I'm gay. I've been struggling with identification for the last

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year or so and haven't come out yet. It was a last minute thing, one of my father's co-workers had to cancel and the company told my dad I could use the ticket. Yippee! The problem though, was we were only given 2 days' notice. He was all ready but I had to run around, and luckily I had a passport from earlier vacations but had to get vaccinated and mom wanted me to have new clothes because I would be meeting some of dad's associates. You know... mothers. But the biggest disappointment for me personally, was that Andy was at his grandma's for a week and I wouldn't be able to have a blowoff goodbye.


We had finally consummated our friendship with an oral bond just once, a mere three day ago, the taste still fresh in my mouth. And his cock, yes, the feel of that hard cock sliding on my tongue for the first time, still titillating me but tearing at me to stay and not go. And as you well know, at almost 14, that member of the body becomes the most important one, on you and on others, receiving the most focus and interest, consuming a lot of time, and determining who, how and when you relate to another one. Well, maybe still to you too... And I phoned his cell, left a message, sent a text, and needless to say, all to no avail and very disappointing. It was difficult to sleep that night before, Bangkok on my mind, and Andy in my hand. Yes, since I couldn't give him a live blowoff, I made a fantasy goodbye, based on some reality.


I had gone through all the prepubescent usual coming of age, playing doctor with the local boys and girls. Then that onrush of puberty, anxiously awaiting my turn. I had joined a friend to watch his cousin and his friend whack off, their humongous boners (well humongous to us at that time, remember?) squirting gooey 'cum'. Then madly whacking ourselves or a friend till one by one we got off, our own initial gooey cums. I was an early bloomer with the biggest dick, so they enjoyed workin' my wang and I was the second 'offer', but enjoyed whacking the others as they inevitably came on stream and offed too. But eventually they faded away as pussies took over for pricks. Like I said, I was a little lonely, queers being in the minority, not much action, not many to hang with, and coming out a big decision, but then I met Andy.


Ah yes, Andy. He was taller than me, real skinny with glasses, curly black hair and very shy. And for

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whatever reason, and I don't know why, I was attracted to him and after a while, found he liked me. So we did the usual trading of backgrounds, likes and dislikes and also I was testing for that important interest which was finally verified when his eyes dropped several times as mine had been doing. Great! Then with our touching, and his tightening when I dropped my wrist down on his solid bulge while playing the computer. Then the clothed teasing and I just about shit when he invited me to a sleepover! I guess you call him a real sleeper. The shower before bed surprised me where we fell in love with each other's' love sticks. We did a lot of kissing and had our first glorious mutual masturbation, which we continued for several weeks and then, being a little hesitant at first, he finally let me blow his rocks off. Oh, sweet nectar... But he was still indecisive about taking that step on me.


Oops, forgot I've been stroking myself while I'm telling you this, and I'm ready, so I'll just lube up my throbber, my palm, forefinger and thumb and get back to the farewell fantasy. I'm pinching my thumb against my forefinger so they were like a pair of lips (not a cunt) and put them against my knob, palm facing out, then push them down, squeezing my knob between, then onto the shaft, then down and the knob runs along my palm like it's a mouth. A little different from the way you fucked your hand I bet, but a vivid Imagination is a queer`s best friend when you're still in the closet, right? I picture his lips and hot mouth sucking, sucking me off and bam! I have a great cummy, shimmy, shake, the whole works. Thanks Andy, you're the best! Whew. Now, on to Thailand! We took off, the trip really exciting and Bangkok (We chuckled when we first heard it when we were 12, because that's what we used to do to each other...) was awesome, so much energy, millions of bright lights and wild colours. They also had a room reserved and since they got a special group price, they had to keep it, bonus!


Dad said I could use it too, a place all of my own! I felt like King Shit, let me tell you! I was finally all settled in by the second day, what with the jet lag and familiarizing myself with the hotel, the restaurant, putting my clothes away and all that, and was anxious to get started exploring. And I must say, it was exhilarating in our area, the crowds, the buildings, the stores and if I must say, was almost overwhelming. The next day I decided to try the pool so put on my surfer shorts and headed down. I was surprised and happy when I noticed a Thai boy lounging down the deck a ways. Man he was drop dead gorgeous! Holy shit! You know where my interests lie, eh? Like yours... Slight of build, smooth light vanilla skin and shiny black hair in bangs. He looked about 13 too which would be great, then my Johnny tingled when my eyes dropped down to the bikini, no, more like a tiny thong, the contents of which belied that age. Eventually I was to find them all looking younger than they actually were. He caught me glancing and returned a slight smile, which embarrassed me, but just then a tall freckle faced boy about 18, red haired, buck teeth and thick glasses came in and smiled at him. They seemed to know each other as he stood over him and chatted, then took something out of his pocket and gave it to Thaiboy. Thaiboy ran his wrist down the pouch in his thong and I noticed the redhead's boxers seemed to start tenting. Wow! Hmmm... Interesting... The Thai nodded and got up and took Red's hand and started leading him into the change rooms and holy shit! Naturally I stared at his ass, that other area of interest and it was a thong! A string one at that, the string disappearing down in the crack between two gloriously bare vanilla buns! Holy shit again! And just as they were about to enter, he looked over his shoulder and shot me a warm smile this time! I just about melted, thinking he hadn't really noticed me that much. Jeez I got that warning tingle that my sleeping friend was now awake and interested, so I quickly dove in the water to cool him off a bit.


Whew! That's better... I did a few lengths to keep my mind from fantasizing too much, then climbed out, looked down, and seeing no indication that my mind was still wandering, flopped back down on the chaise. My heart skipped a beat when I saw the Thai come out with Red. Thai was relaxed, but Red was kinda nervous, minus tent, as they knuckle bumped and Red hustled away. I figured Thai

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would too, but he started over to me, smiling! Holy, holy shit again!

 

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Please don't bone up and embarrass me I whispered to myself and rose up in a sitting position, just in case, as he approached and stood over me, pouch at eye level which I ignored for safety's sake. "Hey I`m Phoc, Phoc Lue, how are you?" and I just about choked on the name, not knowing how it was spelt because the C is hard so it sounded like Fuck, Fuck Lou. Gawd he was gorgeous, even more so up close. So smooth, that shiny black hair, haunting black eyes with big lashes, full pouting lips, slight in build, a little shorter than me, and the important part even better up close. I dared not look down at it, just caught it with peripheral glances. Gawd! Tingle, tingle.... "Er... hey, yeah... er... I'm Josh, I'm good" "You're beautiful" What? Jeez, that really floored me, coming out of left field, how do you respond to that?


Well maybe my description might help you decide. I had what you could call a 'Surfer' look. The ubiquitous, tanned body, curly sun bleached blond hair, Beiber cute, including sparkling green eyes and full lips, ya, you know what they are good for. The rest of me I will describe if and when we get to that stage, hopefully. I stumbled, weakly replying, "Er... thanks..." He nodded, "You like boys?"

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Double whammy! I squirmed, quite uncomfortable, so he helped me out, "I do. I love you" Wha... Man this is fastest hit I've ever had on me! It was great though, speeds up the matching, so again, still a little unsure of this, but what the heck, I'm not a home, "Ya, I like you too" "Good. You have chlorine on you. We shower now, I wash you good. You do me too if you like" Yikes, you're not too shy now, cut right to the quick! His eyes dropped down to the tent my waking friend was now making, "He happy I gonna clean him, make him cleaner" and chuckled for the first time. He took my hand and led me over to his chaise where he picked up his bag and led us into the change room. It had a couple shower stalls and we went straight into the large handicapped one with doors and he locked it and dropped his kit on the bench. My mouth went dry, my heart started pounding, so, you might say I was really nervous. But I tried to be cool, "You... aren't staying here?" and oh, my straining dick was vibrating now. "No, just work" and put his hands on his hips and looked down at his pouch, "well, you looked at it lot, now take out prize" Jeez my mind is an open book to him. I was really hurting and dicky was ringing now, so I threw all discretion aside, caving into my carnal cravings, seceding to that hormonal onslaught, whew, then simply undid the string on the side of his thong and it just dropped down along with the pouch and I wasn't disappointed! A thick dick, a little darker than his body skin, as were his large uptight nuts, and it was semi, about 5 1/2" but was on the rise up to about 6".

 

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I also like the 'chase' - seeing a cute guy who seems interested but who can't seem to break down and give in to my advances. Of course, it's not always successful - but when a young Japanese guy gives me the look-over, I try to see if he'll want to do more than look. Obviously, the men who are my age or older, chase me too, often trying to put the make on my booty or my baby-maker (I fathered two children, remember), but at times they can be too clawing and undaunted in trying to obtain their goal: get my cock in their ass or mouth. I push them away - unless - I'm in a really horny or desperate.

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Last night, there was one really cute slim hottie - probably in his early 20s - that had me 'chasing' him up and down the 8 stories, but he always managed to get back to the TV room - with his towel slightly spread -- a real tease, so nothing came of it because I wanted to leave by midnight. You pay an entrance fee ($22), but you have to pay an extra 600 yen ($6 US) if you depart after midnight - although that allows you to stay the rest of the night. There are plenty of places to sleep - but sometimes, it is 'hard' to sleep because some cute guy or, more likely, some older codger will keep trying to pull open your cotton robe or slip off the blanket to get a taste of your exotic 'foreign' meat. Pretending to sleep in order to attract 'suitor-suckers' is also fun at times, and there are sometimes a lot of Japanese men who only prefer to have sex with men that way: being seduced while 'asleep.'


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It would have been hot to go out on the streets since Osaka is full of bars, pubs, and night clubs because there were tons and tons of cute twinks flooding the streets. But they hardly gave a middle-aged foreigner a second look, when I had headed to Umeda Station, walking from my hotel.... (oh well...). At least in the baths, everyone's there to get off basically so you don't have to 'play games' unless you're particularly picky.

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It was a nice time in Osaka. It's a fun city with a lot to do and see, and a vibe that is very different from Tokyo. I'm sure I'll find another excuse to come again (literally) soon.

 

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by sunbuns on Sunday 25th October 2009 12:10am

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I visited Osaka this weekend, and went to Hokuokan (the huge gay baths and inn there) for the first time. It was hopping with all types of men...Asian men, grandpops, and twinks made up 98%. I fit in somewhere. I think it makes me a whole lot more exhibitionist in many ways because of the fact that I am a member of an extreme racial/ethnic minority in Japan. You might think the opposite might be true, and in some ways, it is like being a 'fly on the wall' - as an outsider to the surrounding culture that can be so quickly identified as such. But it's also stimulating (although it can be exhausting at times) to be the object of everyone's interest (apparently so -- though obviously not true). I get glances all the time wherever I am.

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But in a gay bath house, those glances are ones that might be admiring or at least curious. At my age, I don't pass up a chance to show off in the light of such visual scrutiny. So I often get a hard on just walking around. It helps too that there are also a hot men and young men that have well-developed muscles on a wiry, athletic frame. Not be far can you say that Asian men are not well-endowed. Size is only relative. In comparison with the overall size of their bodies, some Japanese men are hugely endowed. Not being a size queen does help.

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The night was pretty good -- Saturday seemed to have been best to arrive before 9pm. There were plenty of hot young dudes (20s & 30s) who were getting dressed, and leaving, but then another wave arrived later on in the evening.


I got to plug a few asses, and watch plenty getting sucked and fucked. The top role is one I often seem obliged to take in such an orgy-like environment. I am not hugely endowed, but often more than equal to and many times quite a mouthful for some dude who later wants his butt opened and his prostate massaged by a blunt object: my cock. It was hot when one other non-Asian young guy sucked my cock while a small Japanese dude rode the white guy's big ass.

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He would probably have liked me to plow his white meaty buns.. but I had other fish to fry that night. Hokuoukan (北欧館）is 8 floors of lockers, baths, saunas, group 'mixed' rooms with TV, porno video, and dark corners, where sex is going on. The top floors are private rooms where you can stay all night - so you might consider it as an alternative to a more expensive hotel - if you ever had reason to visit Osaka.

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Basically from that point on I stayed with my dad more often, and we did a lot of stuff over the next few years. Sometimes if I was staying with mom and we wanted to fuck, we would get a hotel. We’d fuck on the hotel bed until we both came, then I’d lay there holding my dad’s limp dick and balls until we both recovered, and then we'd shower and I’d go home. Nobody ever knew. My senior year of high school was when I moved in with him and we became live-in fuck buddies as well as father and son. Once I tried to suck his dick while he was driving, but it was just too cumbersome so we stopped and got a hotel room, even though we were living together, because he liked the idea of having quick sex in a hotel room. This was actually where I first learned the phrase “no-tell motel.” Lame, I know.

I was a gay teenager having very pleasurable sex every other day, if not every day or sometimes twice a day. And I was perfectly comfortable with my body and my partner's body. We could mention anything to see if the other wanted to do it, and it was amazing from my viewpoint then.

There was no better feeling than having your dad’s dick inside you. I just loved laying in bed with my legs up and having him enter me and stay there for a couple minutes, holding my legs up with his hands while his lubed dick was hard and pulsing inside my asshole. He said I felt better than a woman, and I remember him saying that. It was the most awesome sexual feeling I had ever experienced, and remains so. I felt like I gave my dad something he wanted. Taking a shower together was the next best thing. He normally didn’t like anal play but he let me play with his ass when we were in the shower, and standing behind him sort of hugging him while scrubbing his chest is such a horny memory. I know it’s wrong, but it felt so awesome, better than any other man I’ve ever been with, and I still can’t explain why. I know for the vast majority of people, it sounds unbelievable, or sick, or gross. I know that very, very well, but it doesn’t change the fact that it happened.

And I also know this reads like fiction. I nearly completed my degree in modern literature, so for better or worse, anything I write sounds like fiction (sometimes, even my grocery lists look like jumbled poetry). Nothing has happened between me and my dad since I was about 23 (he got remarried and has a new family—I rarely see him these days since they moved West), so I don’t have any proof whatsoever, but I swear this is true. If I would have thought to take pictures, I definitely would have asked if I could have done that. I hear stories like mine from time to time online, but I never see pictures or videos of father/son encounters, and I can understand why – during these types of encounters with your dad, you just never think to ask “wait a minute, can I take pictures of your dick?” I know it never once crossed my mind, and we had sex hundreds or thousands of times over the course of about 7 years.

It has been a few years since the last sexual encounter with my father. I have spoken about those years with a therapist, at length, actually, and I do not feel that it was abuse in the regular sense of the word, because I was in my teens when it began, and I knew what sex was, and what I was doing. In retrospect, I do recognize that the power-play between a parent and a child is something that is crucially fragile and can very easily become fucked up and ruin a relationship permanently, whether the child is 6 months, 6 years, or 16 years old. I was in a four-year relationship with a psychologist, and our relationship ended basically because of all the psycho-emotional problems I still have from this relationship.

I don’t think the sex I had with my father was as pure and fun and “consensual” as proponents of incest or child abuse would make it seem, yet I also don’t think it was as dirty, evil, and sick as some child (or teen) advocates would make it seem, either. I was not a child. It was not child molestation, like you normally think of it at least. And it also wasn’t consensual sex like you normally think of it – after all, he was still my father. Gay incest has shed some of the particular concerns and issues that straight incest retains, such as the prohibition based on reproductive abnormalities. My parents were already divorced, so my dad was not cheating on anybody like somebody in this thread mentioned, but I still felt as though I were betraying my mother, even when I was still young and didn’t really have the type of mental tools to know what that meant. If I lived my life over, I can say with as much certainty as possible that I would not do it again under any circumstance, because on the whole, it has had a negative effect on my life, career, and relationships—after you’ve had sex with your dad, sex with anyone else is automatically difficult, from an emotional standpoint. The sex with my father was the best I’ve ever had, perhaps because it was some of the first, but that is not worth the other psychological effects that linger on for the rest of your life. The fact that it feels good physically adds to the emotional and spiritual pain, grief and anger. How are you supposed to feel when something that feels good also hurts so terribly?

Therapy helps a great deal and has saved many people’s lives, especially those people whose incest stories involve violence or young children. But even years and therapy and medications cannot fully erase or treat the lingering after effects in many people. I can say with more context than probably anybody else can that sex with one’s parent, on the whole, in general, and in all circumstances, is better left to the realm of fantasy or role-play only. There are hundreds like me out there, and I am one of the luckiest ones, having assembled a decent life out of the ruins left of my mind and soul.
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I used to have sex with my dad. It started when I was a teenager. I stayed with him in the summers, and he tried to give me his version of “the talk” one year. He asked if had any girlfriends. I told him no, and he said “Well, do you bat for the other team?” But stupidly I didn’t know what that meant. He asked it kind of mockingly anyway, and in retrospect I think my mom told him about me (she knew I was gay). This was a really embarrassing thing to be asked, and I let it drop from there.

One night about three weeks later I was at dad’s house watching an adult channel on TV and there was a straight porn on. The guy had a really gigantic dick, fucking this blonde woman on the hood of a car, and I was watching it on the couch, under the covers, hard as a rock, trying to be quiet. I thought my dad was asleep in the other room, but he walked in quietly and said “Whatcha watchin?” and it freaked me out so I turned the TV off, dropped the remote, and acted like I was asleep, which in retrospect I’m sure looked really funny to him.

I know this sounds bad, but I had started drinking beer when I was a young teen, and had been drinking for a long time at this point, so my dad came back a couple minutes later with some beers and turned the TV back on. He was watching the same thing and I was still pretending to be asleep. He said “Son, it’s ok to watch a girly show (he always called porn the “girly shows”).”

I opened my eyes and said “I thought you’d be mad.” And he said “I’m only mad if you don’t share. Want one?”

So I took a beer and drank it as we watched porn together.

After opening the beer, for some reason, my next response was “Please don’t tell mom!” even though mom had given me beer before, and he laughed and said “I won’t.” I knew but somehow didn’t know (if that makes sense) that what I was asking him to keep quiet wasn’t really about the beer at all.

I sat up, enormously hard and throbbing, but my body was still covered. I noticed my dad unbutton his pants and lean back in the chair, and he noticed me noticing. He said “Gotta unbutton, old Charlie is growing.” I sheepishly said, “I’m hard too” and watched his eyes.

He started talking about how it was a shame that you couldn’t find a good woman these days, and that his dick stayed hard all the time, and he had nobody to suck it. I still did not realize where that line of conversation could lead, because I really was a naïve young idiot. I asked if I could see his dick. This time it was he who said “don’t tell your mom.” I said no, no, I wouldn’t tell her.

He pulled down his jeans and I saw his boner through his tighty whities. It laid sideways like a banana would. I was trembling and nervous and so excited and horny, but I was still fully clothed. I was very obviously staring at his stuff and when I looked up he said “You gonna take your pants off?”

My heart was beating insanely fast, and I stood up and took off my pants. I was wearing a pair of boxer shorts with video game characters on them. He asked “Are you gonna take those off?” and I said “I want to see yours first.” He giggled and pulled out his hard dick, without taking off his underwear.

“Can I take them off?” I asked.

“Go ahead,” he said. He sat down in the chair, and I came over, trembling and shaking and horny as hell, and pulled his underwear off. He wiggled as I pulled them down. I was so careful with them that in retrospect it looks stupid.

“Can I touch it?” I asked, and he said yes, to use spit. This was when I jerked my dad off for the first time. But I’m skipping ahead too soon…

I was still super horny, so I jerked him off slowly and clumsily, and asked all kinds of odd teenager questions such as “Are you gay?” to which his response was a simple “no.”

I loved having his hard, thick, hairy cock in my hands. In retrospect, it was about the same size as mine (6ish inches), but it felt enormous and warm and smelled delicious. When he said he was about to cum, I asked if I could suck it and he said no, just to keep jerking him. I did as I was told and asked “do you like that?” as he was cumming, when the answer would have been obvious to anyone older. He came, and I kept some of the cum that had landed on my hands to jerk off with. I jerked off on the couch as he recovered in the chair.

After I came, I immediately felt guilty and ashamed and I hid under the covers again, with only my head poking out. I changed the channel. He was sitting up, staring at the TV, with his underwear pulled down to his feet still. He looked like he was kind of in a daze, just staring straight ahead. I was prepared not to speak at all, ever again. He spoke first.

“Thanks son. I needed that. I guess you really are a queer.” I felt hurt, but he said it really lightly, as though it were an OK thing to say to your son.

“Next time I got to get you,” was the next thing he said, as he was walking to his room.

I jerked off again that night about an hour later as I was lying on the couch thinking about what had just happened. He was asleep in the other room.

The next morning I woke up in the middle of the day, and my dad was already gone to work. I took a shower and jerked off again in the shower. I was so horny but every time, immediately after I jerked off, I felt guilty. It was summer, and normally I'd go out and find something to do, or hang out with one of my friends who lived close by, but I did not leave the house at all that day. I felt dirty and thrilled, but mostly dirty, and I thought if I went outside people would somehow know what had happened. When my dad finally came home, I didn’t speak to him at all. He was the one to initiate the conversation that first day. After about ten minutes of wandering around the house, out of the blue he said, “Are we gonna do what we did last night, again?”

I had been thinking only about whether or not we would ever do that again, but I was too shy to ask. I responded, “I want to suck you.” He giggled, but I was serious. I wanted to suck my dad’s dick. And I would.
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Mostly we would fuck in my bedroom or his bedroom, nice and traditional whenever mom was out of the house, but we really loved those risky ones. One time I was blowing him at the computer, sitting under the desk while he watched porn, and suddenly he tapped my head really fast and sharply so I stopped, then he pushed me back into the wall under the computer. Then I realized he was talking to the neighbour through the window, had just barely seen him coming and then called out to him to talk through the window. They talked for like a minute before I said to myself, heck with this, and went on blowing him! Their conversation lasted 5 minutes! Quite a few times dad had to excuse his weird voice for a sore throat, hah...

And now I'm living away from him and barely see him anymore, but he can drive over sometimes. If my roommate's out, we definitely get up to stuff in my room. But it's very rare now, I'm so busy now, so I consider it mostly over. Sad. =(

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[FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I remember basically just playing with it, trying to get both hands to reach around the entire thing, which I couldn’t. I can remember his scent being something that sticks in my mind. He never got off when I did this, for me I was very curious, for him I’m sure the thrill of having another person touch his dick was his reasoning. I never felt bad about that and I don’t feel like I was abused or taken advantage of, I’m the one who initiated it after all. This happened several times that year, but nothing ever went further than just me touching him.
When I was 6 or 7 I had a real bad case of hero worship for an older cousin of mine. He was the kind of guy every young boy would look up to. Tall, handsome and he had a wicked sense of humor. He drove hot rods and motorcycles, had a different girl every weekend and was a real rascal that everyone seemed to fall in love with. He was always doing something he shouldn’t and he never seemed to get in trouble. I would spend the weekend at my aunts house sometimes and I would get to sleep in his basement room with him, which I thought was cool, having its own entrance and kitchen and bathroom. It seemed very grownup to me at the time. One time when I was staying over I woke up and caught him jacking off, I asked him what he was doing and he told me. Then he asked me to do it for him. I did without hesitation, I thought at the time it would be like before with my uncle. That was the first time I saw a guy shoot cum, I remember it flying every where when he came. So this happened a few times and things seemed fine. Then one time I was over he asked if he could stick his dick in my ass, I was nervous because he had a rather thick cock, I’d say it was 7 in and pretty thick, I had to use both hands when I jacked him off if that gives you an idea. So he told me to lay face down on his bed and he straddled me, he began to shove the head in, it hurt so bad, I cried for him to stop but he didn’t. He ended up getting it all the way in and proceeded to fuck me really hard for about 5 mins before he shot in my ass, to me it felt like forever.
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"If you are really not sure about this, you need to say no now. You can say no at any point and we'll stop, but better now than halfway through."

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He told me he couldn't believe it either, and we both smiled and went to his bed, just across the hall (small house, one floor). Once there, I also pulled the blinds over the window and then we kind of looked at each other across the bed where he and my mother had no doubt fucked countless times... and she was out of the house all day, so we knew we wouldn't be interrupted if we really went along with this.[/FONT][FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
My dad suggested we get naked now so that we don't have to worry about it on the bed, which would be hard for him to do since he was overweight (I don't have a thing for large people at all, this was just my dad). I was fine with that so we took off our shirts, always looking at each other, and then I took off my pants and socks while he took longer. Both in our underwear, I decided to slowly strip my underwear, which he loved and said,

"I've dreamed about this so many times... I know I'd be called a pervert, but it's just something I can't control. I can't believe we're going to do this."

My cock came out of my underwear and something must have snapped in his head, because he just came right around the bed and pushed me onto it, face up, and buried his face in there. He didn't blow at first, but he got to that right away, and I loved it. Really, it was a blowjob like any other, but I watched it and it was MY DAD. Just unbelievable. He was pretty good at it too, surprisingly...

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He fucked me really slowly at first, gasping a bit and making me worry he was having trouble breathing. But he got it and then started really fucking me. Feeling this huge body moving over me and into and out of me was amazing. And over and over I kept thinking of this incredible fact: This is my dad I'm having sex with.

He came soon after, and I jacked off and came like 20 seconds later. We laid there for a bit and then talked about how we loved it... and he kind of looked at me slyly and said, "is this going to keep you home now?"[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]First off - yes, I am a new member. I've read the entire topic and I know first-posters are under certain suspicion, but a recent poster did bring up the good point that people with fewer posts probably are the ones sharing their true experiences while those with many are more likely making up some (though a few of those could still be true).
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Yup... I have had sex with my dad, and it was a relationship that lasted maybe three months right before I moved out when I was 18. For a couple of years before that, I had moved into a fetish of watching incest porn, and while I'm into straight sex too, I'm primarily gay so the father-son incest really did it for me. Naturally I started thinking about my dad sexually, but I had read about male homosexual psychology and how it was very common to have those feelings, as well as straight men for their mothers and so forth. So I stuck to jacking off and never made any moves on my dad.

Right near the end of my first year at university, I was coming home through the back door where the computer is, and there's a window right there so anyone at the computer can see anybody coming up the back stairs. Dad must have been a bit too engrossed in what was going on on the screen, of course, since he didn't notice me until I walked into the kitchen and started taking off my shoes.

He turned around and I was able to see the screen, which had a porn video on it. Straight as straight can be. He jumped a bit when he saw me, but he had all his clothes on, so I made it humorous and said I'd take off my shoes in the porch so he could finish watching.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I did that, and came back in and he was already logged out. He apologized and said that he had been searching for "red neon tubes" when he accidentally came across a porn site that specialized in coloured condoms lol. We had a laugh and then I went into my room... I wasn't too bothered or anything, but I was honestly glad to see him watching porn since I'm a healthy believer in sexual activity no matter your age. [/FONT]


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He was blunt - "I want us to blow each other, be naked, have sex, cum together, and so forth. I want to do this with you. I've watched videos so I know how to do it."

At that, I kind of cackled because it was such a silly and funny thing to say and it was just like my dad to say that. And I knew what we were going to do. I immediately stood up and let down the blinds over the window, then said, "Do you want it here or on your bed, or...?"[/FONT]
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At that point he groaned and pulled away from me. He had a big smile. He got up and said follow me, and held out his hand. I got up and we went into his bedroom. We both quickly stripped off the rest of our clothes and jumped on the bed.


At this point I got to do exactly what I'd been dreaming about for years. I explored every inch of his body with my hands and mouth -- his hairy chest (licking his nipples), his well-padded but still firm belly, his thighs, the place where the thighs meet the ass, and then around inside his crotch. I spent a long time between his legs, licking the underside of his balls, his asshole, and the space in between. Meanwhile his dick was as hard as a rock and was starting to drip copious precum. He was begging me to suck his dick, and finally I pulled up and went down on him.

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While I was doing that, he grabbed my hand and moved it down to his asshole, where it had been before. I fingered his asshole while I blew him.

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After a while I was able to get two fingers in him at the same time, and that's when he blew a huge load right in my mouth.


After he had calmed down a little, we kissed and made out some more, and then he offered to blow me. Since he'd never done it before, he wasn't as good as he might have been, but that didn't stop me from shooting a big load all over his mouth, face, and beard. After that we cleaned up in the shower together. It would have been nice to stay longer, but I had to go back to my parents' house for dinner.


But in answer to your original question -- no, not counting that one time I've never fooled around with a friend's dad.

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because I was curious. At that period of time, my mom was out of town and my dad had his friend over and they were having a few drinks. My sister called and she locked herself out of her car (LOL), so my dad had to go pick her up because she needed to get to work. My dad's friend stayed while my dad left and we talked a little bit. He asked me some personal stuff like if i had a girlfriend, and I have had a few so it turned into a long conversation. Then he walked over and he spilled some whiskey on my legs near my crotch and he said he'd help me clean it off, (it wasn't intentional by the way).

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I didn't mind too much because I was kinda turned on when he was helping me clean it off. I kinda got carried away and helped him rub my crotch and that's how it all started. I hadn't really had much experience with other guys. At that time it was one of my first sexual encounters. I sucked him off and that was it, nothing much more happened after that. He moved out of town soon after so the opportunity hasn't shown itself yet. I really enjoyed it while it lasted. He had a really nice dick, and a very hot cumshot also.

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When I was in high school I really had the hots for my best friend's dad. My buddy was a real all-around jock, and when you saw his dad you knew where he got it from. In summer he was always walking around with no shirt on, just a pair of gym shorts. His chest and abs were really well developed, sort of medium hairy with really inviting silky brown hair... nice legs too, and a firm round butt. He was always real friendly too, with a big smile for his son's friends. Very physical, always putting his hand on my shoulder and squeezing gently or slapping me playfully on the butt.

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Anyway, flash forward to college... I was home for the summer and on an impulse I dropped by my buddy's house. His dad was the only one there, he told me my friend was working on a job out of town. He was wearing a polo shirt and cutoff jeans, socks but no shoes -- he still looked great even though he must have been at least 45 at this point. He had grown a neatly trimmed beard, which was reddish brown with just a little bit of gray. He invited me to sit down, and something about the way he said it gave me a little stir (just a little) in the nether regions. He offered me a drink and I think he was surprised when I asked for a whisky. He poured one for himself as well. We got to talking and he filled me in on all his problems.

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Work wasn't going well, blah blah, but the biggest surprise was that his wife had walked out on him. When he started talking about her he started to get a little teary and pretty soon he couldn't talk anymore and was pretty much just blubbering. I instinctively got out of my chair and sat right up next to him on the sofa. He reached over and pulled me closer, then buried his face in my shoulder. He put his arms around me and held me close, and that's when I started to get hard.

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In fact I wanted him so much I didn't think I could hold back. I started kissing him softly on the back of the neck, right at the bottom of his haircut, murmuring reassuring words. He seemed to appreciate that, and next thing I know he was kissing my neck as well. Then we shifted our faces around and started kissing gently on the lips, just exploratory kisses. I rubbed up and down his back, and he put his hand inside my t shirt. He moved his hand around to the front and started massaging my chest.


Meanwhile our kisses were getting more passionate, his tongue probing inside my mouth. We helped each other off with our shirts and I finally got to run my fingers through the beautiful hair on his chest. He responded by moving his face to my chest and tonguing my nipple. I let my hand run down his back to the top of his cutoffs, which were pretty loose, with no belt. I slipped my hand inside and discovered he wasn't wearing underpants. I slid my finger down his crack as far as it would go and then back up. He started moaning, so I figured he liked that. I slipped it down again, and this time I stopped at the hole and rubbed the outside of it.

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I was on a weekend trip away with friends. I am gay, but not out to these

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friends. Let me say I enjoy a bit of fooling around with them, but never going so far as to suggest I was anything other than a hetero male, who liked a laugh. I could enjoy the scenery as long as I didn't make it too obvious that I was actually lusting after my friends with their fit sexy bods. George was the youngest. A really fit guy who just had his 18th birthday. He was a newcomer to our group so I didn't really know him.

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Somehow, I managed to time my arrival at the hotel check in just right and ended up sharing a room with him. I must admit it wasn't pure chance and there were some stirrings of excitement. I knew I was very unlikely to have my way with him, but at the very least I would surely catch glimpses of him without his shirt, possibly even wandering around the bedroom in briefs or boxers.

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I began to wonder which he wore. I followed him up the stairs and found my eyes just at the level of his cute tight bum. I could see the telltale sign with the ridges of his briefs just visible through his jeans. God he was a sexy guy.We got to the room, changed and headed out for a lads night on the town. It was a good night with plenty of drink and the usual lowering of inhibitions and as the night went on. I was always amused how the most carefully macho guys, often turned quite familiar after a few drinks. While sober they would never touch other members of the group, but when drunk they would sling their arms round your neck. maybe even your waist and generally uninhibited about touching almost any part of your body. Being gay, I liked this and encouraged it. George, perhaps not so used to alcohol, was now very merry and was hanging onto the guys - including giving me a real bear hug at one point. I tried not to look too much like I enjoyed it! Together we made it to the final night club and time to go home. George needed a hand to get him back to the hotel and up the stairs. I remember taking advantage of the situation to give his body a good exploration - all in the name of helping him stay upright. I had him held up with an arm around his waist. I even managed to wangle a hand on his bum as we headed up to our room. As I fumbled for the room key I just happened to let my hand brush across the front of his jeans - enough to feel the warmth and outline of his dick and balls. Mmmm, I thought, wish Icould really get in there. All this exploration of this fit young lad had got me really horny, excited and hard. We got into the room and George half fell onto one of the beds. He muttered how it had been a great night.Yeah I said, stripping off to my briefs and heading to the bathroom. My dick was still hard with the fun I had had with George. I stared at him as I went to the loo to brush my teeth. He was a really sexy guy, lying limply and relaxed on the bed. I returned and - while he was looking at me I wriggled out of my briefs, delighted to see that I had caught his attention. My dick was quite hard and I fancied that George had enjoyed my show. I hopped into bed and George picked himself up and started undressing. He was as sexy as I expected. A lean body, but not too lean, sculpted chest and a little bit of a six pack, with a sexy belly button and a downy trail of hair disappearing into his black and white briefs. The package was impressive and I could clearly see his dick, looking ever so slightly hard. George made a point of walking over to me and standing in front of me lying in the bed. His briefs were at my face level and he was clearly uninhibited thanks to the alcohol and also making a deliberate point of standing close to me so that I got a real eyeful of the goods, albeit wrapped in those sexy briefs.

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Clearly I could see his dick was a little hard. George disappeared to the loo and I heard the scrubbings of teeth through the open door. I looked across and could see through the slightly open door that he had stripped off completely and was stroking his hardening dick! I could not believe my eyes and kept
watching, stroking my own dick under the covers.


George came out totally naked, his dick semi hard and passed the other bed to come across to the one where I was. Without lifting the covers he crashed face first onto the pillows and lay there beside me, naked. "I could do with a massage," he said. I hopped out from under the covers and started to massage his neck and shoulders. His skin felt wonderfully soft and warm as he emitted low, happy sounded groans of pleasure. I worked slowly down his back, then started to massage his tight little bum, now sitting astride George as I got bolder. Between his legs I could see his beautiful uncut dick seemed to be getting bigger as he lay motionless face down on the bed.
I shifted position and George deftly rolled over presenting the front of his body to view. His dick was now standing to attention as was mine. I massaged his chest, then down his stomach before moving my hand into his pubic hair. He gave a delighted squeal, which encouraged me to move on to his dick and he gave a low happy sigh. I started pumping his beautiful soft, but warm dick. There was a little bead of precum forming at the tip. George was lying back, clearly savouring every stroke. Then I felt his hand grab my dick and start stroking. We came together in a with a mutual sigh of sexual contentment. We then snuggled into bed locked into an embrace which seemed to last all night. The next morning I awoke to find George still with his arms around my body. George and I became good friends. We never let on to the group that we were gay, but we tried where ever possible to share a room if we went on a trip. George was also a regular visitor to my flat and almost invariably would end up naked, either just because he wanted to, or because I would challenge him to a dare.

 

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you in on more exactly where -- at least Oahu and Hawaii. I'm afraid that I don't know Maui or Kauai very well - although I've been to each those islands at least once.


Maybe I can't let you stay on my property since I've sold it now. It was nothing but a square acre partly forested land but you can find several campgrounds or maybe a shared room in a hostel. So you'll probably enjoy more staying at a place like Kalani Resort (not free and it no longer has camping at $30 per night for a tent site. Kalani has a large pool with hot tubs and sauna which is clothing optional after 3 pm every day.

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Kalani is within walking distance to Kehena Black Sands beach and that's nude all year long - very mixed set of people who hang out at Kehena -- as well as at Kalani. By the way, you might be able to get a job at Kalani Oceanside Resort. They have a program for temporary work-stays that pays your room and board in exchange for some work (20 - 30 hours a week). There are usually some really cool guys and gals -- from young people to seniors are needed for various kinds of work (kitchen, grounds, guest services, etc) and for teaching classes too. You could also look into temp jobs elsewhere around the islands if you wanted to stay longer.


Oahu has a very adequate public bus system that can get you almost

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anywhere on the island you want to go. The Big Island is a different story: while there is a public bus system, the buses do not run very often (typically just twice a day on all but the couple of routes). You'll either have to hitch rides (very doable in Puna (the southeast region where I've been describing) or share a rental car - although there may be very limited bus service between major points. It's by picking up hitchers that I kind of stay tuned to the local vibes and also what the 'visitors' are doing - some are homesteading or housesitting, or just making ends meet by doing odd jobs etc. I've almost never been asked for money -- just rides or maybe cigarettes (but I don't smoke). Some of the people I've picked up are just living for a while on the island because they can and they like the laid-back life.

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Actually, there are always some people staying/camping on Kehena Beach -- I guess you have to call them 'hippies' - I mean that's exactly what they look like and how they live -- most of the guys seem to let their hair grow long and they braid it and twist into a Rastafarian (sp?) reggae style. They often wear long flowing shirts with or without pants and are obviously anti-underwear - there are women too, but fewer actually live/camp on the beach -- although there are all kinds of people there, especially on the weekends. It's really cool on Sundays when dozens -- even hundreds of people gather on Kehena to dance, play music, and enjoy partying/socializing/smoking. The hippie guys and gals never hesitate to join in and love to get naked and gyrate, cavort to the ethnic beat that the drummers and other amateur musicians have gathered to improvise.


While that's amusing, it's more fun to watch for dolphins and whales (not the beached types) and to look at the cool board-type male and female bodies, many of which aren't wearing any at the moment, throw themselves into the crashing waves trying to bodysurf or boogie board. Hey. I've gone on way to long....

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Below is a pic of me walking back from Kehena Black Sands Beach, it's in a sheltered lagoon under a cliff face (so it's not public exposure and so too why some people camp out there - discreetly, of course) -- I am freeballing in my see-thru mesh shorts. I can't wait to get back there after Christmas - just after I leave the San Fran Bay area from a few days with my son and his family
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When it gets closer to the time you start actually planning a trip to Hawaii, let me know and I'll fill

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you in on more exactly where -- at least Oahu and Hawaii. I'm afraid that I don't know Maui or Kauai very well - although I've been to each those islands at least once.


Maybe I can't let you stay on my property since I've sold it now. It was nothing but a square acre partly forested land but you can find several campgrounds or maybe a shared room in a hostel. So you'll probably enjoy more staying at a place like Kalani Resort (not free and it no longer has camping at $30 per night for a tent site. Kalani has a large pool with hot tubs and sauna which is clothing optional after 3 pm every day.

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Kalani is within walking distance to Kehena Black Sands beach and that's nude all year long - very mixed set of people who hang out at Kehena -- as well as at Kalani. By the way, you might be able to get a job at Kalani Oceanside Resort. They have a program for temporary work-stays that pays your room and board in exchange for some work (20 - 30 hours a week). There are usually some really cool guys and gals -- from young people to seniors are needed for various kinds of work (kitchen, grounds, guest services, etc) and for teaching classes too. You could also look into temp jobs elsewhere around the islands if you wanted to stay longer.


Oahu has a very adequate public bus system that can get you almost

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anywhere on the island you want to go. The Big Island is a different story: while there is a public bus system, the buses do not run very often (typically just twice a day on all but the couple of routes). You'll either have to hitch rides (very doable in Puna (the southeast region where I've been describing) or share a rental car - although there may be very limited bus service between major points. It's by picking up hitchers that I kind of stay tuned to the local vibes and also what the 'visitors' are doing - some are homesteading or housesitting, or just making ends meet by doing odd jobs etc. I've almost never been asked for money -- just rides or maybe cigarettes (but I don't smoke). Some of the people I've picked up are just living for a while on the island because they can and they like the laid-back life.

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Actually, there are always some people staying/camping on Kehena Beach -- I guess you have to call them 'hippies' - I mean that's exactly what they look like and how they live -- most of the guys seem to let their hair grow long and they braid it and twist into a Rastafarian (sp?) reggae style. They often wear long flowing shirts with or without pants and are obviously anti-underwear - there are women too, but fewer actually live/camp on the beach -- although there are all kinds of people there, especially on the weekends. It's really cool on Sundays when dozens -- even hundreds of people gather on Kehena to dance, play music, and enjoy partying/socializing/smoking. The hippie guys and gals never hesitate to join in and love to get naked and gyrate, cavort to the ethnic beat that the drummers and other amateur musicians have gathered to improvise.


While that's amusing, it's more fun to watch for dolphins and whales (not the beached types) and to look at the cool board-type male and female bodies, many of which aren't wearing any at the moment, throw themselves into the crashing waves trying to bodysurf or boogie board. Hey. I've gone on way to long....

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Below is a pic of me walking back from Kehena Black Sands Beach, it's in a sheltered lagoon under a cliff face (so it's not public exposure and so too why some people camp out there - discreetly, of course) -- I am freeballing in my see-thru mesh shorts. I can't wait to get back there after Christmas - just after I leave the San Fran Bay area from a few days with my son and his family
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If you make it a gay camping resort, then it's likely that 85% of your customers will be men, 10% lesbian couples, and 5% would be wives, girlfriends, fag hags, daughters, sisters, because some gay men are married or travellng with female companions.or family.

If you make it simply a clothing optional instead of 'gay', I honestly don't think these basic numbers will change a whole lot -- for example 70% would be gay men and male couples, 10% lesbian, and 20% mixed. You should be able to confirm these numbers by surveying some current owner-operators.

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You're also likely to get more year-round guests, and have more men who don't identify themselves as 'gay' but who want to be with other naked men (maybe seems a contradiction - but I think it happens a lot).

Only RVs? That's too limiting. If you have the right amount of land and a good location, then why limit it to RVers? Generally, they are retirees, reasonably well off financially (esp if they are not retired), they travel in couples and they tend to herd (many RVs want to go where their nomadic RV 'friends' go). They stay a long time, too, esp if the weather is warmer in winter where you are.


It would be good to have a multiple-use type of camping resort: RV sites, tent camping sites, small cabins/A-frames, a lodge with dining facilities (the restaurant alone could draw in people), day-use passes, etc.

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If you can't do it all at once, then at least plan with the idea of possibly growing the business in mind.

Also, there are any number of other expansion possibilities to bring in guests who want a vacation, or those who want to spend a day-two out of the city (and like being naked to do so), by having the resort be MORE than just a place to sleep and sit in the sun.

Location is your biggest obstacle - are you going to move to the best location for such a place or are you going to build it in your backyard -- Build it and they will cum (pun intended). Is your area conducive to such a place? In every sense ....?

Still it's been done before -- who would have thought a small rural community 40 miles outside of Knoxville (TN) would support Timberfell Lodge?

All of these places have a central type of clientele that makes them succesful. Try to find out what the clientele will be in your area? RVers only (aging baby boomers - which are still a forced to be reckoned with) or a mix of gay and gay-tolerant YUPs (young urban professionals). My impression is that today's affluent gay baby-boomers can afford and want more from an outdoor (camping resort) type vacation.

Having stuff (eating / activities / consumer-oriented (shop/gifts,classes/culture, etc or even entertainment) for guests that could also be used by passers-throug or short or day-time visitors and local residents might generate income -- of course, it makes the business larger and somewhat more difficult to manage -- In that case then, you cannot do it alone.

These might include:
a shop for local artisans or locally made food products/souvenirs), a museum of "___", a theater (for performing arts, music, gay plays, film festival, or not... ), classes and seminars (yoga , dance, bodywork, massage, spiritual training, arts/crafts, artists-in-resident, etc), gym-workout facilities, with sauna or jacuzzi.

Staffing them becomes your second biggest problem -- (not always a problem since if you pay well and have good working conditions and know how to manage people effectively, your resort could become a very nice place to work. You would be able to recruit instead of just taking any Tom, Dick or Harry who needs a job.


Well ... I've given you the $2500 lesson in business planning...
send a check (LOL) to Sunbuns Consulting, Inc. -- just kidding. But you might have a great idea -- do you have the stamina-energy / vision / drive to accomplish it and money (not a small amount)? (Note: more of the first three are needed than the latter.)

Hey... I've been to several such outdoors-oriented camping resorts in many locations (internationally and in the US).
A couple of example are: Timberfell Lodge in Tennessee
and Kalani Oceanside Resort (kalani.com). They are representative of the kind of place that I would build if I were doing this business.

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Part of a discussion on another phpBB forum discussion board: dickflash.com The topic was discussing the idea of male-only clothing-optional RV camp park or resort. I spent a lot of energy thinking about this kind of project --probably because I really like the 'seed' of the idea. My advice was to approach is a vision - one that needed a real (and well-researched) business plan.
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I would like to open a clothing optional private RV park for men only. I am being informed that it wouldn't be a hit and i am being told yes it would. I would like to know if other men would possibly be interested in such a park as a get away to relax and play in the sun.

For the relaxing side i was thinking of a pool with a couple of hot tubs, with indoor/outdoor showers, maybe putt-putt golf. Of course the ideas could be endless and maybe you can suggest some relaxing activities.

Would this be a good investment? This would be open to all men that are of legal age 18 and up.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]Depends on where you are located; if you are near a sizeable gay population it might attract enough clientele. Hear in Southern Ontario/Northern New York area there are 1 or 2 similar places I think.
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I agree, it does depend on your location. RV camping can be done all year, but I'm not sure how many gay RVers there are these days, but if you were to combine it with camping (seasonal) and choose a private location..that has a wooded area..hot tub/pool/showers etc..I think you may be onto something.

It might be a good idea to have a day use policy too so guys can come and relax, use the facilities and romp with the campers and guys in RV's.

You might do beer bust or bbq on weekends..stuff like that. Make the food free (build it into the costs) but charge a flat fee for the beer. If it were near a river for swimming...even better....but you may get traffic floating by.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]If you are marketing towards gay guys, then you may have some success. You will also have guys banging and sucking each other all over the park -- especially at night. Not sure of the laws, but that may lead to the police getting involved. There is a difference between a clothing optional RV park and a gay sex club.
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You'll need to do more market research .. than ask the infrequent and random member of this site. How many (such RV and camping sites with 'resort' facilities) can you find in your area? Statewide, provincial (CA), nationallly (or internationally - CA/Mex)? Visit or talk by phone the owner/operators of several.

I think you should not be fixed on just doing a 'RV' gay camp site. With the price of gasoline, fewer people are rushing out to buy huge RVs.

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Some important things have already been said. But are you limiting the idea too much? males only, RVs only, 1-person operation?

On what kind of scale are you thinking of making this?

Enough for 5 RV (parked on 1-acre or less, or a 20 - 200 acre spread?
Do you expect to run it alone or are you going to have employees? (opening yourself up to the possibilities -- also - opens you up to a lot of liabilities too.
I'm not nixing the idea - just asking and advising you to think and also gather more information.

You need a business plan and also have a vision of how the vision might grow (change) in the next 5 - 10 - 20 years.

The male-only requirement seems a little drastic -if not downright discriminatory (not in the legal sense) - although it might be (needs checking).

By doing so, it seems you aren't really thinking about it as a money-making business. So you need to sort out what you're really trying to do: have access to your own 'private' sex club, make extra money, create a business (investment, capital expenditures, employees, taxes, accounting, etc),

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