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When guys' butt and ass cracks are showing it true that the sight is hot or 'cool' -but - at the same

time -- I always just have to believe they are doing so completely innocently that is kind of mindless, without consciousness and so it NOT exact sexy. Because for me, just showing some butt or your crack is something you're likely to see on almost anybody - toddlers, school children, overweight people reaching up or bending over at Walmart, old people, athletes in action or just warming up, as somebody climb into a busy and just about everywhere and while people are doing most anything.

There are times and cases when this is NOT true so it's when we can accidentally see up the front of

guys who typically are wearing baggy pants/shorts (and may also be freeballing (going commando) is when I sit up and take notice and get turned on. Women are obviously NOT going to find it easy to accidentally flash their twats - unless they sort of make a bigger and more obvious show of spreading their skirts .. anyway, by all appearances and by most everybody's admission, women don't see to be as visually stimulated or find looking at body parts as erotic as men do -- not to be too sexist.
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Back to the idea and actual experience of seeing up a guy' s short.... However, when you can see a guy's cock clearly outlined -- the head, corona ridge and all - you just got to know HE knows what's showing and he doesn't give a damn or more likely, he's happy to give others (perhaps especially other guys) a peek at his goodies.

Likewise seeing a guy's cock from a view up the leg his baggy shorts, somehow just really gets me excited to the core -- because I just KNOW he can't really be that naive and innocent about it. I mean - he decided what to wear and what NOT to wear -- I'm all for freeballing -- obviously but I know that my eyes zero in on a live target and his floppy cock or sweaty balls are a hell of a lot more appealing than a hairy butt crack (no offense to those who are and to those who do like to show crack). But this is freeballing -- after all. It's what up front that counts -- or should I is what 'cunts'. P.S. I know that most of these types of photo are just 'posed' but there are times when you get a look up some buddy or total stranger's shorts. When I was a teen, my day had a young college age guy who worked for him on subcontractor jobs

(painting, building on house additions, etc). He wore cut-off jeans a lot and was really handsome and also took a friendly interest in me (although I was much younger -- I guess he wanted his boss (my dad) to think he was a nice guy but he could have been so friendly for 'other' reasons - that he was always in my day-dreams and later by fantasies -after the time I saw him up on a ladder with his tight bubble butt and hairy legs. Believe you me.. I was hanging around at my dad's job whenever I got the chance (which was not much because I was in school). The guy in this first pic definitely seems to be authentic and his freeballing seems totally innocent or at least he doesn't seem to be aware that his uncut meat is exposed.

Does anybody else find this type (above) of 'realistic photo' of a real


person appealing? I won't say that it is ONLY sexually appealing because it really is NOT just that. In the second photo below the guy (in red shorts) is really hot, but the pic seems totally contrived. It is probably an early pic in a series where this guy eventually does a solo jerk off - that really doesn't do much for me.

Maybe I am getting jaded in my 'old age' and maybe the lost innocence on the first guy's face (and dick) just remind me of what I once had ... I am NOT talking about foreskin.-- but that sense of being innocent and exploring the mystery of your burgeoning feels and maybe your bulging shorts when you think about someone (or somethings... ) and then losing one's innocence, and also the joys and stumbling in learning to know yourself like most all of us went through (mostly in our adolescence -- where it concerned our sexually maturity and the changes in physical body and attraction to other people (str8, gay or bi - as the case may be).
 
The death of JUB forums, galleries and blogs?
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A personal photo - taken with my cell phone, Dec 2005 (Big Island, Hawaii)
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The following was announced on Dudesnude.com very recently. Some people ignored it, but I feel like the right to my personal identity and freedom of sexual expression has just been kicked in the balls! ](*,)

#-o While it has NOT happened here on JUB yet, I am just wondering when it will? IF it doesn't, then I might wonder even MORE!

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We ask that you do not post pictures to the forums unless you have permission from the copyright owner - this is especially true for high value adult images.

if you don't have permission from the photographer or owning company, it is against the law for you to publish it here. even if you yourself found it at some "free porn" site or internet newsgroup, this still holds true.

we have had many complaints from copyright owners recently regarding pictures posted here, so to 'start with a clean sheet' we have removed all pictures posted to the forums before feb '06 (most of them were felt to infringe on someone's copyright in any case!)

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Various responses: Some other (users) and my responses:


Subject: Re: The death of Dudesnude Forums
Poster: n2leather (DN member)
Date: 02 Feb 2006, 09:43
I find it ironic that the porn companies are threatening to sue us over using their pictures here and yet some of their sites steal pictures of us and use them freely. I've found pix of me all over the net used without my permission but because I dont have the porn company $$$ there really isnt a damn thing I can do about it.

I guess we are now severely limited to to topics we can start in a forum because what good is talking about something if you cant show what/who it is we are talking about.

Do I dare say we should boycott all porn sites, videos, magazines, etc for a while until they realize that threatening us is really only fucking themselves. Guess my savings account will now grow a little larger, or maybe I should spend the money on that hot tub I've been looking at, LOL.


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Subject: Music
Poster: ThatGuy A DN member
Date: 02 Feb 2006, 11:55
Music played by a live band at a dining establishment is actually paid for. If your band covers a song (as opposed to something original), you generally pay a flat fee yearly to perform cover music to the various music publishers. Radio and television works the same way.

That's why when you are watching television and they are celebrating someone's birthday, they ask about singing Happy Birthday To You. Someone wrote that song, and everytime it get's sung over the radio or tv airwaves, the music publisher asks the producers to pay a small fee.

If you sang happy birthday in your own home or a restaurant, you pay nothing.

I also agree it's time for some guys to start photographing other guys on here or themselves, and posting that for those who want "hot" photos.

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A personal photo - taken with my cell phone, August 2004, edited and copyrighted by Sunbuns99 (Big Island, Hawaii)

Subject: Re: The death of Dudesnude Forums
Poster: sunbuns99*
Date: 02 Feb 2006, 20:05
The truth is probably stranger than fiction when it comes to WHY this is happening?

Could it be that it was NOT at all the so-called porn makers who were actually the ones putting pressure on Phil to 'protect' their copyrighted material? I think the real culprits -- once the truth be known -- is that it was probably some of DudesNude.com's cash-hording (or should I say - cache-whoring) competitors who have ratted on DN in order to try to destroy it as provider one of the most popular 'free' and 'amatuer' porn-alternative.
We are talking about MAJOR bucks here - so other strictly commerical would NOT sit by idly and let almost 'free' sites,such as Dudenude and JUB commandeer such large an audience (and thousands of suscribing customers) and thus deny themselves a potential income worth 100Ks of $. So they had to do something (and this is the second cannon shot across the bow - so to speak - the first was not even a year ago when DN was almost coerced into shutting down ALL 'obscene' photos because of the threat that the US Attorney General was looking to prosecute such 'abuses'. It think this is another similar and ineffectual attempt by the right wingers.
Tribes.net had a similar attack on it late last year that threatened to their owners and caused them to warn users about any 'obscene' materials -- not even mentioning the copyright laws.
One difference I see may be the Dudesnude operates outside the US and thus the webmaster/owner would not be prosecutable under US anti-obscenity laws. However, copyright law are international accords -- so a UK web host/site administrator MIGHT be able to be threatend and thus coerced to 'curb' the level of involvement of people from the BUSA (Bush US America).


It's somewhat like how the major cell phone and landline companies tried ot 'trash, crash and burn' the IP telephony services for so long -- finally Skype was one that got enough customers (and enought clout) to hang on and even succeed enormously.
Perhaps the same thing may happen in the venues of 'free public' discourse on sex and sexually stimulating pics and discussion. Either it will not work or we can just resolve ourselves to the bushification of all nation states.
It is a bit surprising that the webmaster (owner) of Dudesnude.com has so easily been intimidated by whatever veiled or voiced legal threats that he has been hearing. I've already mentioned the possible teeth in the threat from international copyright laws -- since US obscentity laws are not binding in the UK (and other nations).
For another thing - there is an enormous difference between simply borrowing copyrighted material -- such as posting it along with one's comment and the blatant using of copyrighted material for one's own profit or personal gain. The Supreme Court of the US will probably be called on to make that distinction sometime this year.
But my own prediction, will be that something like this: If it IS illegal to use in any form or manner copyrighted material (even when such use is NOT by any means for one's business or personal profit), then you are violated ALL copyright laws and deserve the strictist of punishments when you sing a song or hum a tune you've heard on the radio or on a CD that you've purchased. When you answer questions that are TOO close to the original textbook material, then you are impinging on the author's copyright and deserve to be imprisoned. Copyright laws are to protect the creators (or owners) financial investments and to protect of their rights to receive monetary reimuneration for commerical use of the materials. The private use of such materials has yet to be clearly and unambiguously defined.
I am sickened and disheartened by the 'new' moral stance - -it's rather like the Patriot Act of copyright protection - but -- at the same time -- as bushism makes inroads in the various sectors of our lives, there will eventually be a backlash that will invoke a reasoned and less self-righteous and monetary self-serving public consciousness which will counteract these acts of barbaric puritanism.

(please excuse the lack of proofreading -- but I was just too livid to type str8! <lol>) :badgrin:

Sunbuns99

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Subject: Re: The death of Dudesnude Forums
Poster: FIREFLY§ [msg]
Date: 02 Feb 2006, 22:32
The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 clarifies some of the differences between say, a photo printed in a book and that same photo distributed over the internet.
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Subject: Re: The death of Dudesnude Forums
Poster: Cazzone!§ [msg]
Date: 02 Feb 2006, 23:07
rules are rules...but we need to have some stipulation, where the porn sites cannot steal OUR PICS from THIS SITE!!!
It works both fucking ways... :grrr:
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Subject: Re: The death of Dudesnude Forums
Poster: n2leather [DN member]
Date: 03 Feb 2006, 00:25
It all kinda reminds me of what happened a few years ago here in AZ when Disney decided to sue a daycare center for showing their videos to the kids before their nap. Ended up shutting down the center completely after it was all said and done. Sometimes these things are just taken too far in the name of the almighty dollar
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I haven't posted in a very long time - -although I have kept up some posting on the road (during my various trips from Feb 16-April 7). I used Flickr and Blogger to create a Mobile Blog: You can see mine at: Travels with Sunbuns Flickr and Blogger work well together and there doesn't seem to be a lot of hassle of pics with nudity.

I have also found recently that you can also create a mobile blog from your PDA/Smartphone or using the web at: Splashblog See details at Splashbog

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Over the next few weeks, I will try to catch up with my detailing my adventures - I had some great experiences and also at least one bad one. There was plenty of sightseeing, cultural enrichment and loads of sexual adventures, too. But honestly, I feel a bit jaded and overextended now so I'll close my blog for today.
I didn't want it to remain simply a blank page for so long.

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I haven't posted in a while -although I have been busy online and off line too. I guess the urge to blog comes and goes. Also, I find that I split my life into segments which don't always overlap -- such as my activities as a gay male don't always seem to fit with some of my other interests (at least, I am not at the point where I can easily mix together blog entries about new pleasures in buttfucking and my latest recipes and travel tips.
So when somebody ONLY reads this blog, they will certainly get skewed version of what I am as a person versus what I do as an active gay man (the mostly secret sexual side of my nature and activities).


I do spend a lot of time online and -- while some of it is blogging - a lot of it is absorbing other people's work (and responses/writings/posting). Still a good bit more is consuming erotic images and video. Over the last few weeks, I have discovered (or I should say re-discovered and taken time to explore) various new sites - -many of which are directly connected to homoeroticism.

Below is a list of URLs that I check either daily or weekly:


  • Some video sites (for posting and viewing amateur vids (and sometimes porn clips - Evideoshare has the hottest).
    [*]YouTube
  • EvideoShare
  • DailyMotion




Travelssssssssssex

Over the weeks from March 2 - April 5, I had a lot of fun travelling so I'd like to fill you in by detailing my adventures - some of them sexual (of course).


I spent a week on the Big Island in late February and got to swim with dolphins, see whales and sea turtles, did some diving and camping.
My next longer journey involved trips from Honolulu, Southern California, New York City, Tampa (Florida), Barcelona and Gran Canaria.

So instead of trying to write it all here, I will just link to entries from some of my other blogs: (Note: Not all of them are finished yet -- so I'll be updating them over the next few days (hopefully).



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  • Sex on the beach - I got to cruise on several gay beaches and seaside cruising spots. Diamond Head beach was hot the very afternoon I arrived back there from a short trip. I met a horny bi guy who liked to show me his str8 porn mag -- I presume to help him get himself (and me too - because he was talking dirty about fucking pussy). He then proceeded to wrap his lips around my engorged cock -- we were nestled away high above the beach but still there were other guys cruising who were trying to get a look at what we were doing.
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    Later on another guy climbed up to meet me among the trees, he wanted to press his cock into the crack of my ass, but didn't want to insert. It was hot getting buttrubbed - and just made me want the real thing that much more.

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  • Fucked at gay sauna -
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    One couple of the best anal fucks I have had in a long time was at Club 2200 on University Blvd in San Deigo on March 7th. It was a weekday night but the place was pretty hot. I finally met up with a cute Afro-American guy who felt me up from behind while I was leaning over the back of a couch in the lounge area. He asked if I wanted to play so we went behind the seating in the video backroom, where he covered his 10 inch long, beautiful cock with a rubber and then fucked me crazy. It turned out that he was trying to give me an anal orgasm. He would pull back until the tip of his long hard meat was about to disengage from my anal lips and then we would ram it back in deep. He kept up a rapid plunging rhythm so that I finally screamed in delirium and came without touching my cock.
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    Funny, but just a few hours later, after a restful snooze, I got up and found a hot guy in the same room who wanted his ass plowed long and hard. So I was very happy to oblige. We fucked there in the video room for a long while, then he invited me back to his cubicle where we engaged in slow sweet butt-wracking sex with my ever-hard cock for hours.
    I have not been so pleasured -- both ways during such a short period of time in a long while. It was hot!

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  • Anal orgasm in Maspalomas dunes - Apart from my scuba diving on two of the days at Playa del Ingles (actually we dive at El Cabron Bay nature preserve), I spent several days on the dunes at Maspalomas -- nude sunbathing and cruising for sex.
    One the most interesting times was after I had been kind of mentally 'edging' for 4-5 hours -- seeing guys nude and a lot of sucking/fucking going on the nooks and crannies around the dunes and in the shady brush lined areas. There was a guy who was interested in my ass while I seated on the huge leaning branch of a tree. My butt was spread out over the back edge and he came up and started to massage my sphincter.
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    Other guys came up around him and watched. He was not going to insert his dick, but instead, he put his fingers into my butthole and expertly applied a massage to my prostate gland. It was kinky sitting there with my cock bloated -- fully erect and having my asshole rammed with a hot digit. He knew exactly what to do to get me to explode and the lust in the others mens' eyes just made me want to put on a great show. I came without touching my dick -- something that had not happened for several weeks (when I was in San Diego).

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    I realized that I have reached a new level of sexual stimulation -- the anal orgasm.






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Being a closet flasher I enjoy wearing my mesh shorts or athletic pants (liner removed) outdoors. Amazingly however, I rarely get noticed -- even when I don't wear a long shirt that would cover up the fact that I'm freeballing and hanging loose. There are different sized mesh weaves so the amount of transparency varies on the garment and whether it's sunny or cloudy (amount of light) affects how see-thru they appear.

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For the first time in a pretty long while, I actually did get noticed. I went out about 7 a.m. the other day wearing my long mesh pants to take a morning walk -- without my dog. Lately I've been taking the dog out and hour or so later than that.
Along came someone on a bicycle who I've seen in the neighborhood before but haven't for a long time. He's a gardener / landscaper who works at a nursery nearby. I remember him because he's used come early to pick up the company truck parked in a lot across from where I live. He would arrive on his bicycle and then proceed to stand sideways out in front the parked vehicle and take a long piss (just about every morning). I had noticed this habit - not because I was spying on him - but I'd see him when I came out to get the paper, looked out the window, He was apparently not deliberately exposing himself -- at least from my viewpoint. Yet I always wondered if he were sort of doing it on purpose. If he's coming to work by bicycle, his own place couldn't be that far away. For a year or so, his company uses a different parking lot for their vehicles so I've not seen him taking a morning piss.
Well, that other morning, as he rode passed me on his bicycle his eyes centered in on my freeballing cock in these mesh pants which was just hanging partly below my shirt. He turned in from a side road and so his view of it was just a short glance, but he definitely reacted. Because he had earphones on, as was listening to music, he could not heard himself but I heard him mumbled just as he passed me 'goddamn! or something like that, doing a double take.

Somehow I don't think he was not as shocked as he was surprised - maybe even delighted -- that there was somebody in his neighborhood he would do what he's been thinking about so long (his pissing in public was just his way of innocent flashing). So I now I think he might have been getting his own thrills as he 'innocently' pissed in public ever morning.

I know there are many -- if not most freeballers - who do wear no underwear for a lot different reasons than the thrill of accident exposure. But I think there might at least be a element of thrill of being seen for a good many -- even showing a VPL (visible penis line) through your pants/short that are NOT mesh must be appealing to some freeballers. Wearing mesh and semi-transparent or see-thru or ripped clothes with holes while freeballing is more further step along in that direction.
 
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On a morning walk in the cemetery a few days back, I pulled off my pants - always wear a loose fitting cargo pants and freeball. So it's easy to quickly do a bit of 'stealth flashing' -- I call it 'stealth' since I don't believe anybody is watching. It's just the fact that they might or could at any moment -- there are cars intermittently passing along a lane about 50 m behind me. I got excited and just secs later starting jerking off until I cum.


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I guess you notice I'm not showing face. I have some comments (rather a long winded explanation) below:


Showing 'face' when your flashing or 'innocently' exposing yourself to strangers is actually less risky than doing so on the Internet. I mean there are only a limited number of people who actually see you and many don't really 'see' you at all. Even if they do, they don't want to act on it (confront your personally or even call the police and press charges) and then they don't have 'proof' - just their word against your. s
I was once arrested for lewd conduct charges (a felony in Mass). It happened while on vacation near Provincetown in 2005. It was a police who saw me -- although I was just 'pissing,' which I was, he claimed I was trying to flash him (I was wearing a skimpy see-thru pair of shorts but he could not have seen that from the distance he was when he first noticed me). I was not convicted -- of course --the case was dismissed because it was a case of false arrest/police brutality / insufficient evidence / unlawful seizure of evidence (my camera), I obtain the services of a local lawyer who had experience with theis particular police department. It seems they often made this kinds of arrest in order to discourage 'perverts' from coming into their community - -not Provincetown township but another one further down (south) the Cape.
But the whole trauma of the experience taught me some valuable lessons. For one, it made me realize how vindictive and self-rightheous some people are -- including well-meaning and hardworking police officers -- most of whom I have a great deal of respect for the dedication.
But flashing on the net or letting your face get shown may have some risks that you cannot control or may not even realize until years later.

Thanks, Toras, for being encouraging without be condescending. I have lived in communities where a Causasian male (which I am ) is a rare minority , so it means I would have no trouble being picked out of a police line-up. Toronto has a very multi-ethnic community - there are about 800,000 people of Chinese origin alone live in great Toronto -- at least you can 'pass' for a local. I can't where I am living now - that's why I guess I went overboard last summer and was a little bit too careless while vacationing on Cape Cod. I thought I blended in as to be unrecognizable.

The other interesting phenomena and also could make flashing (exposing one's genitals and face) on the Internet somewhat riskier for people who define themselves as flashers, exhibitionists and exposers is
1) the tendency for the Christian right to categorize them as sex offenders -- the same as child rapists and baby killers, and
2) the new Internet technologies for tagging pics, passing data including pics and tags through RSS feeds even further around the globe, and geotagging - ties/links an Internet object (user, picture, file) to a specific geographic spot.

I know this is off-topic , but it was my topic (Walking the Dog) in the first place so I doubt the moderator's will mind. I usually do a lot of thinking while I am 'walking the dog' which is both a methophor for 'wagging the wiener', freeballing in the open air, airing out the family jewels. But it also is REALLLY what I am doing -- taking my pet dog for his daily walks. I also think about flashing both as my hobby and also about it repercussions and consequences too - while I'm enjoying the solitude and occasional chance to peek-flash some guy (see separate, earlier posts for the narratives)

Back the thesis --
We know there is tracking of what you purchase and even what you're interested in (sites that you have visited leave cookies that search engines can pick up and then display ads that are related to the types of sites (products) you've been visiting. Google does that big time.
So it's not too big of a stretch to think that pics (or other data files or media objects), which you download or that you place on your website or public / private profile on some social network, or that you even look at briefly online, might leave discernible and followable traces.
I've got profiles all over the net and many pics with and without my face -- both under my real name and my various alias (sunbuns is not my 9-5 working world identity). Someday somebody is going to find a way (my conspiracy instinct says they already have) to collect these traces (tags) or at least connect them like dots. So they'll start selling the information (klandestinely of course) for ostensibly purposes of security and anti-criminal protection but the personal id info will most certainly also be used to defame and try to ruin the reputations of people (basically good upstanding citizens -- like me and you) for political gain, religious cleansing, or profit from blackmail or pay-offs.
Sorry to take a sinister lapse into the dark side of the net...
Hey, it's my real birthday today. I'm 39 - yep! Well, at least 'sunbuns' thinks he is or at least won't admit to being any older than that - and he usually says he's younger). I remember a comment your once made in another posting -- most of the people on this site (who are interesting in or doing flashing) are in the 40s and 50s.

In honor of the fact that I'm chicken to show my face here's another pic -- not only faceless but too headless from one my walking-the-dog hikes into the local cemetery. If I get any more 'invisible' - I might as well be dickless. Sometimes I think it will be good to be reborn as a dickless being (a female?) in my next life.
If I am not recognizable, may be my dog will be. <lol>

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On the public profiles, I was referring to in my post above is located at Dlist -- a gay social networking site (I feel like a 'old' man among the 'twinkish' - hipster GQ types plastered all over the home page. But what the hell -- I like college age dudes - and sometimes they like a guy who's more mature and obviously well-endowed (I don't mean 'big' dicked) - financially well established (stable income sufficient to live well, not 'rich' but all things are comparative).

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If you visit it, you can see a slide show of guys showing off in public.
Which means that ANYONE can see the photo and the profile - if someone is savvy enough they can probably find out my IP address from the uploaded pics or code. So -- it's not all just conspiracy. Someday I'll be knowledgeable enough to prove my thesis by showing you exactly how it might work.

I collect such pics and thousands of others. I am turned on more by 'real' photos of real guys getting nude and being naked, male and happy about it, than the slick, hard-glossed superstuds and huge meaty cocks of the porno models.
I have them in Flickr and a few thousand save in Yahoo Photos - only friends can see them - unlike Dlist and GW - my profiles and pics are password protected. I realize it is not much security (protecting one's identity from theft or blackmailing/blackballing) but usually like-minded people of the same persuasion join a gay or porno site. That's not the case with these two new entries, GW and Dlist. Even Yahoo 360, MySpace and Tribe.net don't allow just anyone to see a profile (or at least the parts you don't want made public).

I am pasting the link the Slide.com slideshow below and I'll try to embed the player here too (if HTML for the slide show doesn't work into this post, then you can see it at my dlist.com profile above or at the link below.

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Slide.com may delete the slide show soon -- I didn't read (or couldn't find it sexually explicit photos were banned or not).

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I find the sexual preference for certain races and how gay/bi/str8 men interact sexually across races or before their races/ethnic or mixed origins to be both fascinating and perplexing.

Having lived for many years in Japan - as both a straight married father and, at the same time, often moonlighting there and elsewhere in the world as a single gay male MUP (middle-aged urban professional), I have encountered all races and ethnicities of males (and all people) - socially and sexually.
I 've also experienced being an absolute racial minority - such as in Japan or Cambodia or Thailand - where whites make up far less than a tiny fraction of a percent of the general population. Of course, tourists are a bit different story.
But was of course in the once mostly-white racial majority of the US -- growing up in the South -- Georgia, Tenn, KY.

I love men of all races (attracted to them is what I mean)- but it's on a case by case, personal level -that is the real test of the attraction. I can be categorical in defining my likes or preferences but it does not always bear out in actually meeting a specific person.
So why even talk about people (men) at racial entities? I don't have answer - just at least I've thought about it some and still think it's worth reflecting on - because it's kind of key to comprehending the human condition and your own part it shaping its continuing evolution.

Think of cetaceans - many people should know what they are but it's a word rarely used in daily conversation and is probably unknown by many when used out of context. We don't ever say - the Chinese, long-nosed saltwater porpoise - we just call them either -whales or dolphins (one single group more specific but not as discriminating as the racial names we give ethnic groups - kind of like grouping all 'humans' into three big categories (African, Asian and European) or Easterners and Westerners -- what about the billions that are somewhere outside those too broad divisions.
You can sometimes hear people say (to their friends who know them very well) -- "Oh I met this guy who was really hot..."
But in our more formal, public discourse with strangers or just work colleagues, family members etc. "Oh I met this Japanese guy who was ..." or "Oh I met this black dude who was like so..." Each of these utterances shows different levels of ethnist attitudes (I don't call it really racism because there isn't much evidence that the person speaking is a racist or even prejudiced or discriminatory (in a bad sense) - they are just discriminiting or differentiating for the sake of the listener and what 'think' will communicate more effectively or clearly to the person that are talking to. Our social register determines somewhat what 'attitudes' we conceal or reveal. The problem with today's online and telecommunication media-based communication enviroment is that we often don't have a clue what social register to use in such a publically open style. Sorry if I'm lecturing - you don't have to read this and probably won't even make it this far -- unless you are interested.

If we're talking about comparing physical attractiveness of one ethnic/racial group over another -- it's really a personal preference but so shaped by our own common social values that we really actually don't have much choice in the matter.

That being said, I've come to admire and be physically and pyscho-sexually stimulated not only by all kinds of men because of their ethnicity - not just their skin color or physical traits (features, endowments). Each ethnic group has behavioral (body language, facial expressions, fashion, the way the move and use their bodies/limbs) and rather unique (to that group) social responses in how they move, react, interact that are quite different and also just as appealing (not exactly in a sexual way - that's fetishism carried to an extreme).

It's like appreciating the hundreds of kinds of gourmet cheeses or great wines from all over the globe.. some people eat to them live or just enjoy, others live to enjoy them. I think you can savour the male 'essenses' in various forms - including across racial/ ethnic / blended human gene pools- or you can just gobble down dick like a horse (or pig) without carrying who's on the other end -- racially.

Myself, I find racially-ethnically mixed guys to be the sexiest -personal preference -- partly because I no longer have to bridge the racial gap (at least from my point-of-view) - I can see them as just really cute guys or gorgeous men in NO relation to any racial/physical ideal or category.
Having raised two biracial, bilingual and bicultural children - Japanese mother and me as their father - British and Irish white male with some Cherokee and bit of French trapper, I am well aware of the inter-racial mixtures of such movie (and other media/ sports/entertainment) stars as Keanu, Cain and A. Jolie (and other racial mixes such as Halle Berry or Tiger Woods, etc and actually there are many others. It's a growing world phenomenon and also interesting to see how these people can sometimes be either not identified with racial group (Angelina Jolie) or sometimes are (Halle Berry) or beyond any categorization (making up his own - Tiger Woods as Caublasian - I think I got that right).

I have said it before (here on JUB) and elsewhere - this is one of the most amazing benefits about living in a place like Hawaii; and there are many and a growing number of places where the ethnicities/races/cultures/subcultures can mix freely and also retain their cultural identity -- at the same time as being part of a humanity-respecting society of diversity (and cetacean-respecting environment too).
Hey.. I sound just like I'm a new-age religious missionary... what the hell... Oh well, I'll go on..

Unfortunately, racism exists! So-called enlightened societies have been taking conscious efforts to reduce its negative effects - I can't judge yet if it's been entirely successfully - the clash of civilizations (which is partly racial/ethnic/intercultural has just gone re-started (partly thanks to the GWB kind of mentality and mis-leadership. But there are also equally threatening social evils (?) that haven't been clearly recognized as being problems - ethnism (prejudice or discrimination against culture groups or subgroups linked to racial or ethnic identity). It sort of what was talked about earlier about why some ethnic cultures view white Americans as the top of the heap - it's a form of 'ethnist' thinking that non-whites accept or even adopt without thinking ..
Raising the human consciousness is a never ending climb up the psycho-evolutionary ladder - - well, at least until cloning and robot intelligence achieve post-scientific levels (I call it x-sci-fi jidai (era 'Japanese term' that George Lucas loosely borrowed to name his Jedai knights and 'bushido'-like culture of the Force).
I'm sure I've lost a few people by now because the length of this post alone ... LOL... but I am just talking about the inevitable evolution of human nature and human form and human sexuality .... In a few years (100 or 200 years from now) there won't be that many racially identifiable individuals anyway...
More will be pan-racial in origin and multi-ethnic, multi-cultural by then.. so how long shall we keep discussing this???
It's very likely too there won't be any more artificial distinctions between straight, gay or bisexual preferences. We won't have much to talk about then, will we?

Absolute and true paradise is as boring as hell.

Duh .. whatdafu** .... I' ll stop here.
 
The Power of the Glory Hole: Part I

"I sucked my first cock through a gloryhole sunbuns!" (Matt37)

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I had a fake ID and used to go in one at 17. It was a thrill to watch the vids and JO, stick mt cock thru the hole and get sucked. so intense. (Taddy7)

I got my first blowjob through a GH, which was my first sexual experience. Still love it to this day, although the places to find them (other than sex clubs) are very few and far between. (MRMATTX2)

Not all of the experiences and opinions are favorable though.

A friend of mine put his cock thru' a glory hole waiting to get sucked and, instead, the door burst open and the guy flashed a police badge at him. So apart from diseases and unclean dudes, there's also the danger of getting sprung by the law. And what about the queer bashers? Nope, there are too many negatives in my book!!! (Lambada)

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It's pretty amazing how many guys have actually said that their first 'gay' sex was anonymous. Of course, many boys and men grow up experiencing some kind of sexual exploration with other boys - something that - maybe -most boys do, but that's not the purpose of this blog entry. Maybe another one later.
Part of this blog entry is based on some forum discussion at JUB and other sites.


That was also my own first 'real' gay (M2M) sexual encounter:

First suck...first sex.. yeah, that was it for me, too. It wasn't a gloryhole but I sucked my first cock at 19 under a stall in the men's room of the university library. I never saw who it was - just his shoes. I was nervous but excited as hell. He sucked me first and then I did him -- he came so quickly but was polite enough to ask if I could take it - I mumbled something with a mouthful of dick, which he took for a 'yes'. Since my first sex was with an anonymous male, doing it like that has held a fascination ever since. It's probably very different for young gays who've grown up more recently. (sunbuns99 )

I got a fetish (or at least fascinated with the idea of gloryholes).
Anybody else? I've put some my pics on a Flickr group - it's way for to pool everybody's collection but still retain the pics as your 'own'.
You may need to sign up for the group (and to Flickr, of course) to see them.


Under Stall Action/Gloryhole (you'll only see the few public pics until you sign up/join the group)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/45957610@N00/


Below is a RECAP some previous posts on JUB Forum and other related discussion threads here and elsewhere:

Are there any ways to find public glory holes in your area?


You can also find possible gloryholes at http://www.cruisingforsex.com

Look in the LISTINGs section, search by location (city/country).
The info is not always up-to-date because such places have a tendency to come (cum) and go! I mean.. the situation and circumstances change -- sometimes overnight... but then a good hole is hard to find but also hard to lose.

Adult bookstores are just the right palce to enjoy porn and blow job at glory hole. Gay bathhouses have glory holes for added pleasure.

Adult bookstores are just the right palce to enjoy porn and blow job at glory hole. Gay bathhouses have glory holes for added pleasure

Try craigslist.com in your town to find gloryholes and cruising spots. For another source: http://members.lycos.co.uk/rux/gh.html
Great for finding gloryholes:
http://www.squirt.org !


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In a recent posting on another discussion board, the topic of glory holes came up. It's seem I am far from the only person who intrigued, fascinated and somewhat obsessed with the form of invasively impersonal (well - intimate is not quite the right word) and anonymous gay (male-male) sex. I add the m2m (male-to-male) because there are many men (and quite a few women) who don't identify with being gay, but who enjoy participating in glory hole, under stall, and public toilet cruising for sex with strangers. It's called 'cottaging' in Commonwealth English.

Neovirgin wrote: Not too sure where to put this ..... have any of you ever taken candid pics of guys' cocks that have been pushed through gloryholes in a public toilet? In other words, pics of their cocks without their knowing it? If you have, I would love to see the pics! The closest I have seen is what appears to be a genuine candid video of one guy wanking another one under a toilet partition until he cums.

I wrote back to him but ended up adding more than he expected.
Funny, that's often the very thing that happens in real glory hole and under stall situations.
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Nordicboy (-- also a DickFlash member/poster) has collected some of those on his own blog from Xtube and elsewhere.
He's posted the link on DF before, but there are definitely some vids there about anonymous dicks sticking thru glory holes (apparently real - not staged porn).

http://nordicboy.blogspot.com
http://www.xtube.com
http://www.pornotube.com

It would be VERY hard (smile) to actually get away with videotaping such things.. most g-hole are too dark and not many people except sort of hard core flashers are going sit there and willing let a complete stranger video or photograph them erect and cumming thru a g-hole. -- so unless the other guy is aware of what you're doing, it's not actually REAL true flash -- it's just amateur porn, then.
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Another person responded with something I found quite amazing and so, I was doubtful, and responded his point that he'd actually videotaped at glory holes.

Growler: I have videoed this and other types of voyeurism for years. Yes, it's amateur porn but then so is videoing someone flashing. When you stick your dick under a partition or through a hole you usually don't see what the other person is doing or who it even is. That's why it's anonymous sex.

What I was referring too what was requested in the ORIGINAL post (quoted above) written by neovirgin. He was looking for genuine candid video and pics of "guys' cocks that have been pushed through gloryholes in a public toilet" - where they don't know it. That's what I was saying - It is rather difficult to find them on the net -EXCEPT in some kind of amateur porn (uloaded to video/pic sharing sites).

To Neovirign <<--- You might try Flickr - there's a group for pics only called Under Stalls and Glory Holes - that has some pics of that nature - I have contributed many myself (not of MYSELF) - although I'd be happy to oblige.


Flickr Group: Under Stall Action/Gloryhole
http://www.flickr.com/groups/45957610@N00/
If it becomes a private group (leave a message and I'll send you an invitation).
http://www.flickr.com/profile/sunbuns
Note: You can a free Flickr account or just use a Yahoo id.

To Growler <-- If you been videotaping these for years, then you can probably help in out my sharing your stash - or do you ONLY sell that for fun and profit as amateur porn. There is nothing wrong with that or I don't even mind you're being a PhD sexual behavior research whose writing a book on the subject..

From my own experience ---from both side of the glory hole - most times both guys know what/who (at least they know it's somebody they want to suck or be sucked by) and why they want their cocks through a glory hole.
If you don't take a least a peek to see who's there and if they're showing interest, you might just pull back with a bloody stub. ... we're talking public toilet glory holes - not backroom bars or gay sauna/baths were you CAN expect with 99% accuracy that your dick's going to be swallowed with appreciation and with great gusto.

I still have a hard time imaging that you take a video camera in the men's room at Home Depot or some state Hwy roadside restroom and shoot pics of stranger's dicks thru g-holes. Damn, it's even hard to find them these days.
I couldn't and wouldn't dare try to get away with using a cellphone cam/vid without the other person knowing or encouraging me first. Way too risky for me.. Most bathhouse and saunas now prohibit photography or cell phone. The one in Waikiki will NOT even allow bags or backpacks AT ALL., and San Jose's Water Garden checks all bags (for liquor and camers/vidcams). Somewhere I went had me check my cell phone with my other valuables - shutting it down first.

Not to cause a needless argument about this - NEOVIRGIN - don't bother looking for pics - go find yourself a busy glory hole and enjoy the view. <g>

I would like to see a few of yours , Growler- and NOT just to prove your point.


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Great stuff.. You've got more guts (and probably bigger balls) than I do - taking those. Would love to hear some of your stories - about taking them. I am sorry there are cheats and liars (people who steal pics and videotapes) who republish - but if someone you know or you are in them, you DO have legal recourse (hardly worth unless he's making a bundle).

I guess I've only partly learned my lesson. But I never pass up a good glory hole - love to give and get it - from both ends (safeway.. (not BB) of course). I just hope some places don't have hidden micro-cameras - I'd have to be shown on 60 Minutes some day! LOL

Some dickflashers and guys who like to frequent glory holes and who look for public m2m sex are NOT gay (meaning they don't see themselves as queer and don't want to idenitify with being a gay person or lifestlye -- I realize that -- but one perv can't call another a BIGGER perv -- unless...he IS small(er) and not many will admit that. LOL.
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These next series of posts might be interesting to someone who wants to be see naked by other guys - particularly by str8 or clothed men when you are in 'nude' situations. I don't consider this blatant or in-your-face exhibitionism - for me, it is a sort of sensous and partly innocent accident flashing or being seen naked (or purpose) where nudity might be expected. I find it even hotter and more sexually stimulating when the guys doing the looking are either supposedly straight or are themselves clothed. It's great when they take notice or when you can tell that they kind of like the experience (or the freedom and license) to get naked them. Many don't need to get permission and quite a few don't care or even notice, but you know never what will happen or how they might react - there are surprising results sometimes - and far from bad ones.

A few weeks ago a posted question came from somebody on another board:
I am staying in a budget hotel next week with shower and toilet in the hallway. Stayed there before and tried the basic stuff. Like walking to the shower and up and down the corridors in underwear, and even nude, but was, as far as I know, never seen.

Does anyone have any creative ideas to show off or to risk being seen in this situation? Perhaps I can post some pics of your fantasy..

Here is how I responded to the guy's request for suggestions:

I had a conference in Honolulu and had planned to stay in a shared hotel room with a str8 buddy. As it turns out, my friend is not going to make it (his wife is coming along), so I made a reservation for a large (10 bed) dorm room in one of these hotels. It sounds like I might had more luck to choose the small dorm room (just 4 beds) since it might be more conducive to a break-out jo sessions. I know I'll be horny as hell and probably not get a wink of sleep - just hearing out guys breathing / turning over / adjust clothese / and the normal sounds of sleeping turns me on like crazy. I don't know what I'll do if one of them is audibly (or visilbly) beating off. Still, I'd love to hear more.

I'll be at a hostel next week Feb 15-18. It's more like budget hotel with shared rooms 4 to 8 people in either co-ed or female only room. However, it's actually rare to have a coed dorm room be that. single women at a hostel rarely stay in a dorm so they are most all male -- but some regular hotels and inns have larger rooms where guests/strangers who don't know each other share at least a WC/shower but also the bedroom (and lounge/ en suite facilities (kitchen / bathroom etc).



Here are my suggestions for the hotel you've chosen:
( I think you only have a shared bath/toilet . But it really all depends on the actual place and how lucky (popular LOL) you are with the other guests).
Whether it's a true hostel situation or just a hotel that's cheaply built; changes how you can set up a flash - we're obviously talking about innocent exposure (and kind of CMNM - not a full-on shove -hard cock in their face). If you can do that kind, you probaly would NOT be asking for advice.

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So it depends on the rooms (size and number of beds shared if at all) the layout of rooms and hallways, number of floors, how big (or small) the bath /toilet (in Europe (and Japan) it's ,always separate but not in North America. Other important things are who are the guests - backpackers - young, free-minded and playful or staid conversative hardline tourist or locals who are just too stingy to stay at more expensive hotels (no offense - I'Ve stayed at many a budget hotel myself - there are many reasons to do so - than just saving money - friendliness, personal attention and a chance to talk to local owners (who are more likely to own and run it themselves) etc,..
1) leave the door unlocked - even if you are NOT 'surprised' once when somebody embarrassingly open it while you're nude..for example they open the door and then close it quickly after getting a glimpse of you - (even though you did see or don't acknowlege having seen them)
at least , he will know that there is a good possibility of it happening again (you've established a 'predictable' pattern ) so he might just deliberating sneak open the door the next time for a better look or just swing it back wide to give somebody else a look.
2) stay at least 3 nights -if you can.. Notice other's habits/timing for taking showering (or needing the bathroom) -- then make sure you're there before during or after - in some states of undress.
3) Sometimes you can time it so well that you can be ready with all your stuff and clutching your towel loosely around your waste.. and then look disappointed if he makes in in before you. if he hesitate just say you won't be long or you're in a rush to an appointment so ask if you can jump inthe shower quickly ahead of him - while he shaves ...
4) If it's the reverse you get in first but see that he was wanting to shower/use the bath too (he's got his shower gear etc). You can suggest he go first IF you can get started with shaving -- then you can come in too and strip naked and shave until he gets finished with his shower. and comes out to dry.
5) Use the shared bath/shower on another floor - then you have an excuse to be half-naked (skimpy towel that seems to be falling down by inself ) for a long distance... People want notice unless - for example, you ride up and down on the elevator naked to visit many floors.
6) Pretend to go to a room (on the same or different floor where you KNOW there is not guest) - you can see the key has not been picked up - there are not footsteps at all from the room directly above yours.
Then act like you're trying to get into visit that 'empty' room's guest - wearing only your underwear or skimpy towel -- you can knock of the door just as someone opens to come out or when the elevator opens -- knock and whisper a name but drop something -- bending over to pick it up you 'accidently' loose grip on the towel around your naked loins - IT'S OLD comedy routine but it works because most people are embarassed for you NOT because of you. If you clumsy -looking enough, sometimes people will even reach out to help you retrieve something - like the towel. and then you can turn to be red-faced with mocked shame...
The problem with this one is that you can't be sure the person who will view is male or female.
7) Another way to so pretend to be mistaken about a friend's room number. Most people won't open for a complete stranger but if you are insistent and seem to KNOW a real person who you know is 'inside' - most people will open the door to correct your error - out of kindness - If they don't or won't, and just yell through the door then nothing's been harmed.
If they do open it without speaking to you first, you can just pretend to be expecting your 'friend' and start to come in through the door - but you'LL SO surprised that the person is NOT who you were expecting that you drop your shower/bath gear and then loose hold of the towel trying to catch the shampoo bottle. It's better if you actually do have your hands bfull or holding some else because the 'normal 'reaction would be to turn or to try to cover your genitals. The guy (hopefully you'll get one 50%of the time) will either look up at your face (either before or after he looks right at your cock). If it's noticeable he's not completely disgusted or seems to find it amusing, then smile and apologize and explain that you thought Hans/George was in this room and you needed to give him an urgent message - all the while still not covering up and even almost or dropping something else (unbreakable) to that the guy (guest) has to get down and look up to see from a 'better' angle. Your cock should have swelled a bit now -- so he'll show even more appreciation in his eyes or make it clear that he wants you to leave.
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Hey.. I came up with a lot of bold and perhaps successful ones -- I can't wait to try out some of them myself...
Final suggestion, next time try a hostel - you're in a room all the time with men - so you can be as naked as much as you can get away with it-- the bath/shower is attached usually so you can freely go back and forth in the nude to your own ..
Nowadays.. I'm sure that might be one reason that advertize these rooms as MIXED or COED - but - in truth - only a group of women would stay in a mixed group room - usually then the hotel clerk puts that group by itself. Also there are women only group rooms - so it's very like you'll only be put in a room with men.
What I hate is when I am the ONLY person in the room. Sometimes if the hostel is not busy -they will put a lone 'wolf' - single older guys into one of the doubles/couples rooms (for the same price ) but sometimes I think it's just them taking a precaution - or out of respect for the noise that younger (under 26) supposedly make. Frankly I LIKE the noise they make - that's why I'm staying in the hostel (that and the opportunity to see and be seen naked). Still it is lucky to happen because most people are stranger than they are normal around strangers. LOL
.. I'll let you know how my trip to one goes next week.
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By the way, there are many chances to do get naked in public bath (baden ) and spas or hot springs. In Japna there are onsen (hot springs resort - where you can also get a day-pass just for the indoor and outdoors hot pools); there are even still pubic baths - sento - where you pay about 4$ to sit naked among or across from other men (sometimes young men and teens - but all ages) and wash and soap your body-- paying special attention to scrubbing your cock and balls. and then soak nude in the hot communal pool (after rinsing). It's a tradition that is rapidly dying out.
Any ideas or experiences about a flashing at 8 person hostel room (it may be coed)? It's in Honolulu and I don't know the shower set-up -since shower stall or communal (I hope).
Kelly (sunbuns)
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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!
 
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Original posted question on Dudenude.com 11 May 2007, 12:28
I don't know why but if I had my choice I'd piss outdoors all the time. When I'm at home and need to take a piss almost always walk out on the back deck or front porch and take a piss. Anyone else feel the same way?


Reply from another member (in Australia)
yes i do all the time - i never go inside. we have a severe drought here in australia - even down here in tasmania (the little island at the bottom of australia) we are on tank water and if it saves 15 litres of water per flush i am going to pee outside.

My response to this discussion:
I was talking about this the other day with a couple of younger men - who love camping and hiking and who said they always felt great taking a piss while out in nature and the wide open. We agreed that it was almost compelling to take a leak while in the great outdoors. I think it's an ancestral male behavior - marking our territory like today's canines and our other four-footed brethren- perhaps dating from our primordial pre-human forms as earlier species (enough of that hypothesizing).
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It does feel good to take a piss outdoors - I try to do it at least once a day. I think that when we are growing up - especially in societies where knowledge or view of bodily functions is suppressed (like puritanical America or some religiously-repressed nations (not to be named)), we don't get a much of a chance to see the hidden and darkly secretive 'word' of the penis/pissing/etc.. so those basic human body functions are shrouded in mystery and probably also get more sexual attachment than they would or should deserve.
For me, pissing my friends was a way to share a common sense of our gender - boys being boys and baring all meant we could also afford to share other things - like our feelings and fears and joys and sometimes pleasures.

It seems there is a resurgence of sexual fetishism for peeing, pissing, in today's more liberally minded youth - perhaps as a fundamental response to what happened after the first waves of the AIDS epidemic hit the US (and world). I've heard that because of the need to 'protect' privacy and morals by upholding so-called 'family values', growing boys and girls are less likely to see nude humans bodies in natural setting (gyms, locker rooms, skinny dipping, etc) - the only way they see nakedness is the only associate it with sexual behavior - which is pandemic on the Internet.

Hey to that guy in Australia. I have a idea that would be HOT! I'd be happy to try a recycling project to help Tasmania survive its current drought - sucking up your body-water and then letting someone do the same back (from me).

Before you all, cry out 'Gross' - remember Dune (Frank Herbert' sci-fi novel series located on a distant desert planet which was almost completely without water (except collected water vapor). So the Fremen )(indigenous tribal natives) wore body suits (stillsuits) that allowed them to collect and recycle (drink) their own purefied urine and body perspiration.

Actually, I venture to bet that many - if not most guys - have at some time in the lives - probably as maturing teens or pre-teen boys - tried tasting your own piss.


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Cruising in Tokyo



If you travelling to Tokyo or stopping over for a day or two, it offers a wide variety of cultural, culinary, and entertainment highlights. The savvy gay traveller will do doubt want to know where to participate in Tokyo's gay life.

You can find the basic information on Tokyo's gay urban area, - Shinjuku Ni-chome, where many of the gay meeting, hookup spots, and business are located the Utopia Asia site:
http://www.utopia-asia.com/japntoky.htm
I think it's pretty well up-to-date. There are further links to the sauna/sex-clubs if you're wanting to get down and dirty. I sometimes go to Shinjuku's 24-Kaikan gay men's sauna (#3 on the map below). You can reach Ni-chome (2-chome) from JR Shinjuku Station (east exit ) and walk east along Shinuku Street about 10 minutes). Or you can take the underground to Shinjuku 3-chome (San-chome) (subway exits are shown on the map). N-chome is not where everything is located however.
24-Kaikan, probably the best gay men's sauna, has several branch locations, but the Shinjuku one has the greater variety of men - probably because it's located in a gay-friendly neighborhood. The ones in Asakusa and Ueno tend to have an older clientele. Follow the link to saunas and 'hattenba' (cruising boxes) such as Treffpunkt (which is in Akasaka (not Shinjuku Ni (2)- chome).
See more info at: http://utopia-asia.com/tokymasa.htm


You can find useful tips and some reviews by travellers who visited these and others gay spots in Tokyo. Also you might try: http://cruisingforsex.com


You can see if there are other listings or recommendations. I reviewed Dobermann - another cruising box - not far from Shinjuku just off Okubo-dori). I prefer the men's saunas because their bigger, have more men, and you can bath/shower/relax.

When to go?

It's busiest on Saturday and Sundays (and holidays - although there are any in June). Friday nights are not too bad especially once the bars close; week nights can be hit and miss. Some guys drop off for a quickie 'sauna or shag' right after work. 24-Kaikan is also has private guest rooms so people stay overnight and like to get randy all night and into the morning. Most guys get a locker since there are a TV lounge (no porno), group (dorm-style) rooms, shower/saunas, and mat rooms.

There is a time limit for locker users but it's either 8 or 12 hours, but you do have to pay extra (hourly) if you overstay. If you want to do an all nighter, visit the bars on Friday night (they don't get crowded until 10 or later). Boy, do I mean crowded (in some the smaller ones, there is no room to walk, except squeezing thru), then go the 24-Kaikan (2600 yen ) after the bars close if you don't meet (or if you do, he might suggest it since it's cheaper than a hotel - although less private). The trains aren't running after 1pm and the subways shut down before that.


To try to meet up with gay men in Tokyo before arrive, see
http://jguyusguy.org/


Naked Tokyo blog - (for a little eye candy appetizer) It has pics of J-men in various sexual or erotic situations:
http://nakedtokyo.blogspot.com

Have fun!
Asobi-masho (literally 'Let's play '- meaning "let's do it, baby").
 
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For nearly two years (very infrequently off and on), I've tried to get a younger man (about 23-27) who rides to work on his bicycle through the cemetery (above) to notice my peekaboo flashing (see thru, hole-riddled and mesh clothes). He's not ever really taken the bait and generally turns his head or avert his eyes - if we're too close - so that he can't be 'accused' of looking. I am pretty positive he knows what I'm up to ... a few times a month I make a sudden appearance on his route - sometimes with my zipper down or sometimes with a pair of mesh shorts with my shirt tucked in just for him to see my pale cock wiggle from side-to-side as walk by him.
If he were so disgusted or fearful (of being stalked), he could easily find another path to his work (I think he's working at a small commerical airport not too far away) because I meet him usually (once a week or so) around 7:00am and he returns about home the same route in mid-afternoon. Wednesday are his day off so he works on Saturdays as well.

Things have gotten more daring on my part this month. A couple of times recently I've gotten more bold.. like this morning. From the road, he would see me something like this (photo attached). I realize it's very tame by comparion (to other's extreme flashing - but HEY!.. we are NOT all made/built the same, right?)

I'm standing in a pathway between grave plots about 7 meters from the main road that runs through the cemetery. It's a straight wide (private) road with no thru vehicle traffic - so I only have to be careful about pedestrians and bicylists going east/west. Before taking up my position just off the road, I scout out down the road to see if he's approaching and then take up my position (like the photo). I'm turned a bit to the left but I can him clearly when I look to my right. I've done this before but never pulled my pants all the way down until recently. Earlier I was taking a piss (or pretending too).

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So twice recently.. when I knew nobody else was approaching either direction .. I've pulled down my pants and starting jerking my cock (not hard in this 'staged' recreation of the scene).
There should be no doubt that he can see me in this peripheral vision but he's TOO damned chicken or just not going to give me the pleasure knowing he's looking. He's smart - not a smart-alec and he's not looking for a confrontation but he's not looking to see 'dick' if he can help it either.

I know it's pretty stupid (fruitless is a better word LOL) -maybe useless to try to keep flashing this guy (if you can call it that). But the challenge just seems to be increasing my feelings of urgency. This time after he went by without so much as a smile or frown/scowl or side glance... I had to go deeper off the main road and beat off til I came.
Is this going to lead to me trying to go to greater lengths to get the guy to look?
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I think the attraction is that I sort of 'feel' like I know him -- ridiculous idea (I know) but at least we recognize each other.
Sometimes he almost can't help it if I suddenly meet him coming around a corner but it's risky to be 'showing' more than just wearing see-thru mesh - because mothers with school children, old ladies and men heading to their office job are equally likely to suddenly appear around the same corners.
I know he does look my way at times .. but it's only when I'm 20-50 meters away. There is a large plaza (paved area) along the main road, where we sometimes cross paths at a much great distance. It is at times like that when I have my zipper down and my cock partly exposed. I notice then that he 'seems' to take a brief look .. but if I'm too close.. he averts his eyes or even turns his head.

What do you think? It's not much of a flashing experience - but it's the most 'real' flashing I've ever done (not counting nude beaches and CMNM with male strangers in hostels/campsites). He's got to know that I'm 'beating off' for him, but he's closed to the idea.

Any suggestions?
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The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!
 
Recent post by a member of DudesNude on the topic of OUTDOOR NAKED RECREATION (ONR) and trekking expeditions and gay men's hiking/camping.


I am used to [going] backpacking and really enjoy hiking and camping too. Making a great fire and sleep under stars with the sound of the river is the kind of FUN I like but it's not a popular gay way of life. Guys like this kind
of Brokeback Mountain trip only like a quick fantasy. To be able to carry a 20 kilos bag, to walk 8 hours a day, to forget comfort, eat dry noodles and soups, sweat and climb mountains --- to go to some stunning places, meet
amazing people in far countryside [is wonderful but few gay men seem to do this]… I met some straight boys during my last travels who like that but am I the only gay hiker on the planet ? WHO'S REALLY IS ABLE TO DO THAT ? Am I alone
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Posted originally (with editing) by [sunshiniin]
Hiking, camping, and all kinds of outdoor recreation (especially nude) make up my favorite kind of vacation (and leisure time), but finding people (gay men) who do these at the same level, intensity and frequency that you (or I do) is usually a localized process. Not everybody has the same amount of time, stamina, self-discpline, etc or even the same purpose for doing these kinds of activities: physical exercise, self-growth, meditation, socializing, naturalist (ecology), photography, camaraderie, sexual behavior like courting a partner or just getting sex, spiritual communing with nature and other people... the reasons are nearly endless - although I find it perfectly great and by no means at cross-purposes to do ONR (Outdoor Nature (or Naked / Nude - if you're like me) Recreation) for ALL of the above reasons - but some people don't see it that way.

There are many groups for ONR all over the world but they are local - localized to the cultural context and also localized (by language and by who's committed to them or who's leading them and how they accept of seek out new members). Check out the area where you'll be going (or where you live) to try to find them. For example, there is a fairly large (and evidently growing) set of different hiking (many times nude hiking) in the Palm Springs area. Oahu (Hawaii) has the LikeHike group, and the list goes on. Often the nudist groups (FKK, gay men's groups, etc) can give you leads or help you find people and organized events in the local areas.

It takes some research (on the Net or by asking here on DN or other sites, such a gayoutdoors.com) to find groups (or individuals) but there are 'outdoor' recreation (hiking, climbing, etc) group of people and also gay recreation groups almost everywhere that anybody does these activities. I'd be interested in helping to organize such ONR events or outdoors excursions, but again the arrangements have to be 'located' somewhere.. and we here on DN -- as is true for most any gay ( homophilic) web site come from all over the world. Still... it's nice to share the experiences about trying to find others who take outdoor recreation (with other like-minded men) as something both fun and seriously worthwhile and beneficial.
Your best bet is to find partners and trips is to look at Gayoutdoors.com and see what kind of events/hiking expeditions are being organized. It's mainly oriented to North America but not only. Another idea would get Phil (the Dudesnude webmaster) to add new categories to the search and profiles. And he might also add a new forum categories for Recreation and Sports. (including Nudism and Outdoor Recreation). It might have the added merit of getting more paying contributors. You can search for existing ones or even start your own at other well-known and well-developed sites gay social networking sites. I find I spend more time on Flickr or Tribe.net or Justusboys.com because their audiences are larger (potentially) and the efforts at communicating are not lost in a random pile of unrelated thread (like this message will be). MySpace, Gaywatch, Dlist and other sites just don't seem to engender good group communication for 'rounding' up men who share a passion for outdoor recreation (hiking, camping, climbing, snorkeling/diving, etc).
 
Mildly off topic rant / response to Sleeping Nude discussion on Freeballing.com However it's slightly related..... to whatever.

NOT EDITED YET -- so forgive me for posting without PROPER PROTECTION!! (LOL) Also my typical BLOG post has a lot of photos (visual stimulating) -- the MOON (or lack thereof) is stimulating enough (came back July 22 to add pix).

I sleep naked most of the time - except in the dead of winter since the rooms upstairs where I live are not heated (normally) but they are cooled in summer - if I'm at home).
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I read recently that one of the reasons men get woodies (morning erections) is NOT solely because they've got to piss - if that were true then why wouldn't you get an uncontrolled erection during the rest of the day when you had to pee - esp. badly.

The reason has to do with the daily fluctuations in testosterone (male sexual hormone - actual it's NOT just male and NOT only about sex - males and females have the same hormones just different levels and they are affected differently by testosterone, estrogen and oxcytocin etc).
The cycles may have something to do with the daily and monthly movements of the sun and moon and the degree of their 'attraction' - strength or weakness of gravitational pull. Be too much doubt sets in -- think of this fact (?) if there were no moon - there would never have been life (as we know it) on Earth because our planet would have shifted dramatically on its axis by as much as 30 degrees due to the sun and other planets gravity (pull). Because there is a stable (although complex) orbit of the Moon around the Earth (currently 28 days - but it used to be only 20 days), it stabilizes our axis (causing our seasons regularly -- this stability (lack of random chaos) was ONE of the important factors leading to just the right environmental conditions for the evolution of life on the Planet Earth....... Sounds like Discovery Channel - well it's not but I've fallen in love with the MOON and not that sweet neighbor's boys ass either.

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Back to the topic that is already way off topic...

The level of testosterone seem to be highest in the morning (for most men - but there is NO absolute standard and all men are different - unique in their own hormone balances).

That explains some of the reason you (or I ) might feel horny and wake up with erection -- obviously the subconscious dream sleep may also play havoc with our bodily functions in relation to these hormones.

Oddly enough there both a daily testosterone level (cycle) and also a monthly one -- clearly related to the cycles of the moon.
Now that completely explains my mood, sexual appetites and lust or lack thereof..
Sleepin the nude is a rehearsal for what you mind is doing while you sleep... which I better do so ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 
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Dear Billy,​
Long time no see. It's summer so you're probably at your busiest time on the ranch. I'll go on vacation (July 27-Aug 29) to Hawaii, New York, Tenn/KY. Yep.. you should come to Japan - if you're anything like what I see in the photo you'd be a popular guy (So desu neh!)

It seems many Tribe people are gravitating to the visual culture offered by Flickr - I find myself going there a lot more than Tribe - nobody every writes much any way (or read what I write on my Tribe or other blogs). But on Flickr, if I have a nice photo (hot guy, interesting situation or porn), people seem to flock around. It's habit-forming so I don't recommend it for everyone.

You don't seem like a porn-loving kind of guy - which is great if you are or aren't. But I can certainly see where you'd probably be good at starring in your own 'movies' - not crass pornography - but classic nudes.

See ya' when I see ya', Kelly.




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Dear Billy (a day later),​

I can't recall if I started talking first about this - -maybe it's because I vaguely remember your describing yourself doing this (nude all day long on a horse) from another Tribe post.

It's a very erotic image - bTW what'S the one that always can get you off in the one DVD you have? Well.. I'm anything if not kind, generous, serious, kinky and horny. Dirty old men DO have their virtues as well as their benefits. (HeHe). Is that all David does when he comes? Just bring you new porn - he's not much of a Brokeback Buddy or is he? (HATs off and pants down... whooa.)
Sorry .. I'm giddy with excitement (NOT just because I can imagine your butt rubbed raw from horse hair - although that would probably get any warm-bloodied man boiling......) I'm thrilled because I am COMING TO AMERICA (do-waddy diddy bo bap!)

Kelly

Billy,
You're hardly the only young (or even older) guy who knows he likes men that sometimes or even a lot of times ALSO like seeing men with women or even more than that. Most of humanity is bisexual or omnisexual... but society (civilization or whatever) can't 'allow' that since it would have a dramatic effect on what the world works - power / control / nationalism / territories / war / economics ,etc.... Enuf of that shit (right!)

I'm just saying it's totally natural and it turned your stomach to see pussy or a long thick cock stuffed in one then you'd not be like most men -- gay or str8 or in-between.
By the same token, that' s why most str8 men prefer seeing couples or MFM or M2F scenes in porn.
They enjoy seeing (even if they can't quite admit it) the same thing - it's like a projection of themselves - so str8 men have a craving for cock (well at least seeing it) too. How's that for reverse psychology!

Didn't I mention (perhaps not to you in an email) -- I am married ... still and have two almost grown sons.
I'm not a womanizer and I don't play both sides of the fence but I had my share of enjoyment with sex with a woman. I was fully queer until I met the woman who became my wife and the mother of my sons.
We are still happily married and they ALL know I'm gay (not very bisexual any more).

At your young age, there is every reason to believe that you CAN'T and shouldn't set the course on your life in one certain direction with 100% assurance it will ONLY be that. Who knows you might one day fly to moon, fall in love (with somebody else besides a horse LOL, or even get married and have kids.
That IS what Ennis (sp?) (was that his name?) did in Brokeback Mountain, right?

Cheers,

Kelly

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Hello again.
Its cool writing to you. Who knows when I make it to Japan. lol About your advice. I do know I want to have my own kids someday but I also know that I dont want to mislead some girl to have em. I have had pussy, in LA a few times but it just aint the same as a guy. I wont change I dont think. Ennis was a chicken shit. His behavior was a little too confused for me to like him very much. Jack shoulve forced the issue. Oh well. What I like about my one porn flick is this particular dude. He's close to perfect in my mind and the girl was halfway decent so she doesnt detract from him. But when I'm wasted I could watch chickens fucking and get off. lol
Oh, and one more thing, dont be dissin my horse. She and I are an item around here. The other is a quarter horse gelding named Buck. You can diss him since the futhermucker bit me this morning
Ok dude. Chow time. We'll dedicate tonights rocket launch to you. Cool?
Billy

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Billy,
Once on the 'road' I won't be online regularly - I'm camping for two weeks (separated by travels, biz)
Once I hit American hwys in mid August - I am GONE in 60 seconds... driving in Japan is such boring pain... that I just love travelling hundreds of miles at a stretch once I get to Kentucky / Tenn and the Carolinas. I think nothing of a 500 mile trip - my parents live just north of Nashville.

That feeling (rush of freedom/speed/wind) is probably something similar to how you must feel to get up on a horse again - after weeks or months of being stuck in LA. Maybe not.. since you CAN ride a skateboard to get around in LA, here in Tokyo, I have to drive at hour each way in slow moving traffic - there are few sidewalks and skateboarding on streets is illegal here (at least you never ever see anyone doing it) -- only in designated sk8 parks.

See ya', Kelly


Dear Billy,

One new and happy development here.. we are getting a MATE for our dog. She's another Toy Manchester Terrier and she going to arrive on Sunday. They are keeping her at the pet shop to finish her vet check and to complete her shots. She' just a 40 day old puppy.

We've been looking (not to seriously) for a few years -- it's incredibly expensive to get a puppy of this breed (about $2000 for a female) and much more for a champion male (which is what our first dog is). He's getting to be eight years old so if he's going to have offspring it's now or never.
He's an incredibly smart dog and belongs to an animal talent agency so he's been on TV several times,
we're hoping to have a side career (animal (dog) handler for TV, movies, and print ads) when their puppies are growing up and being trained.

Finding a bitch (dog talk - not human speech ) for a TMT is not easy - especially in Japan and there is not guarantee that things will work out with breeding), but we're getting this puppy so she can grow up with her future husband.

Our dog is named Batistuta (named after the Argentine soccer player who made Italy what it is today - not exactly). But he did a lot more than David Beckham is probably going to do for the US soccer pro league (although I hope his coming to LA has a great effect on the popularity of the sports in the US).
I'm NOT a team sport guy - I just think soccer has a many social benefits since it's NOT a rich kids or upper middle class-only game like some team (and individual) sports.

Hey. already too long for your tired eyes to stay up late and read... (it's almost noon here).

Ciao, baby.. chow, puppy.. puppy chow!!!

K.
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From Billy to Kelly,

Ok. absence makes the heart grow fonder "doesn't" it. that better? My grandfather speaks better english than me/I do. Puppies rule and I like their stinky puppiness. My hairs short right now as of last week. I got pine sap in it and just got fed up and cut it off. Have fun in the hostels. Ive never been in one.
Later bro Billy
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Follow up for earlier post on Dudesnude.com
(Read the earlier discussion on this topic below)
: sunbuns99 18 Jul 2007, 01:19
Are gay men just too undisciplined or 'soft' or pampered to even want to take long overland or trekking expeditions?

I realize gay travel DOES account for big bucks (profits) for many tourists places and resort/hotels. But is that all we gays/bi/curious are as far as 'adventure travel' goes?

Is it all just trimmed bush, self-absorbed lushes who stray no further than two steps from the heated pool on our chaise lounge and with our pina coladas in manicured hands?

I realize that might sound a bit cruel or farcical. But there may be some veracity to this hypothesis. How dare sound TOO intellectual on a gay men's sex hunt site? Hey it's high tide (in some parts of the world9 - give me a break... oK?
(Blaming it all on unbalanced and over/under used hormones....)

Follow up(original poster) : sunshiniin
18 Jul 2007, 17:03
Thanks guys for your answers ;)
Don't stop to backpack ! You re right : that's the real freedom !
Hotel's holidays are only luxuous tourists prison ! Don't be lazy !
Move ! It's the only way to really discover a country !
Naturism is fun too,I like that, and gay beaches too ;)
I advice you to go to sitges lol Camping grounds are great
(str8 but a lot of manly gay travelers) and funny hot nudist beach !
Perfect for a week with barcelona at 20 minutes for cultural stuff !

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I had some great CMNM (Clothed Male Naked Male) experiences during my month of vacation travel in August 2007. They really aren't ones that would have much graphic or explicit content or anything like that... but they were certainly meaningful because I was able to make some great connections with people. For me, it's not enough just to be naked in front of strangers - that's easy enough to accomplish at a nudist beach, locker room, or clothing optional resort, etc.

I find it increasingly important to me if I can develop some kind of interaction - social - not even sexual with the guys I am nude with. I realize that this probrably says a lot about the nature of my own reasons or motivation for seeking out CMNM situations. I should eventually delve into that - I suppose. For me it not simply whether or not the guy is showing any interest in seeing my nude body or me his. It's much more satisfying when the clothed person and I (or if I'm clothed and he's nude) are engaging in either doing something together or conversing about mutal interests while one of us is nude.

Here is just a quick glimpse at my summer episodes... (as much for my own recall as for your entertainment ):

a) I stayed several weeks on the Big Island (Hawaii) so I had a chance to camp, go to a clothing optional resort, and get nude on a couple of beaches

b) I stayed at a hostel (same one as before) and had a wonderful time getting to know my bunkmates and people from adjoining rooms. There were quite a few opportunities to be naked or be clothed with naked during that 5-day stay. One of the most fun things was 6 of us going skinnydipping at Waikiki Beach after midnight (2 women and one guy remained clothed, 3 guys got naked). I had spent the whole time just dying to see those other two hunks in the nude so it was really cool being accepted in the camaraderie of guys being guys and getting to skinnydip with them in the end.
c) I meet up the next week with oneof the guys who stayed in that same hostel dorm room (he didn't go skinnydipping) but his bunk was just across from mine (both on the top) so I had an uninterrupted view of him sleeping and also he had the same of me - I sleep nude every night of course. I loved watching him put his hand down his pants and play with or 'straighten' his cock (supposedly while asleep). I made sure he got a chance to see me with a woody too several times a night (and at sunrise) - although he never acknowledged noticing. Because we were both returning (from Honolulu) back to the the Big Island, we ended up going together to the Puna area of the Big Island the following week- so I introduced to the delights of the 'naked Aloha' life. It was his first trip to a nude beach and at first he was reluctant - although he's the one who suggested going - but finally he got up the courage to shed all his clothes and even allowed me to take some photos. Later we camped out a Kalani so he got another chance to be naked on the clothing optional pool that evening. Of course, I slept naked next to him in the 2-man tent and I hardly got any sleep at all. The previous day we went to the natural steam vents (like an outdoor sauna made from lava-heated steam) and we got naked. A guy there was 'pretending 'to sleep and sporting a big hard on so that gave me and Koji a chance to talk later about dicks and erections when the other guy got up and left. I got several pics (and he of me) of our short few days together.

d) I stayed in Manhattan at the West Side Y and had quite a few chances to be naked with strangers. Guests can use the pool, gym and lockerrooms just like paid members. On my return trip thru NYC, I stayed at another hostel and also scouted out a few more where I might return on my next trip. I also spent several evenings at the West Side Club.

e) Some nudity at a couple public beaches lead to some sexual encounters -- I met a really nice Russian guy whom I mistook for straight until he keep coming up and trying to get peeks some parts of my anatomy. Eventually, I got more than just a peek at his.

f) One of the times I almost forgot about was really one of the coolest CNMN experiences I had for a long while. I stayed over in Waikiki over 6 days (at the hostel I mentioned earlier). On Sundays, there is a catamaran cruise which is mainly reserved for gay and lesbians departing from Waikiki Beach at 1:00pm - you can get discounted tickets at Angles (gay bar on Kuhio) and the 90-minute ride includes 4 drink tickets. It's advertised as clothing optional - although I'd never seen anybody go naked on this cruise before (it was the 2nd time to take the cruise since they have advertized it as 'nude cruise.' It seems that actualy boat operator and captain aren't really kept informed (at least they plead ignorance). I asked my hostel roommates if they wanted to come along but the macho-man guy from the Netherlands was negative about it, saying he didn't want to go on any gay cruise - but - of course, it seemed he never missed an opportunity to get naked. I am sure all would have had a great time if they had gone. I certainly did.

Previously cruises were very tame, but this time I simply was not going to be denied the chance to get naked in public in front of so many people. As we were boarding, I asked some of the guys if they were going to get naked later on. Nobody seemed eager but there were any flat denials either. So .... when we got further out in the bay about 500 yards from shore, I asked the captain - a local Hawaiian guy, if it OK if I got naked. He said he was told about that before - but I explained that the cruise was advertised that way and that I wouldn't be obscene or do anything to attract attention from other boats. So he consented. I was the only one to get nude and there were a few women and also a group of 5 young Black doctors from Wash D.C. in town for a medical convention. I sat with a very big local guy but he didn't get naked but seemed to enjoy having me do so. The two young ship's mates on board took furtive looks but they were nonchalant about having a naked haole dude on board. Later on we got back closer to shore nearly the end of the cruise, I pulled on my trunks and then we asked about being able to stop for a swim so the captain agreed. It would have been great to have been naked - all of us jumping off of the boat and then remerging up the gangway between the two large rudder fins of the catamaran. It was a great cruise and being naked made it so much more fun.
 
Comment As posted by "BudnBos" on Freeballing.com: I did skinnydipping for the first time this summer, and it was awesome... being in the water and at the beach nude. Most everyone else was nude also so it was no big deal.


It may not be a big deal as far as flashing goes, but it's still a great thing to be nude and enjoying the surf and sand -Skinnydipping at San Onofre (see pic at right) -- that's the whole point of skinnydipping. I try to do that all summer long and whenever I can any time. I love getting out to Black's Beach in San Diego, Baker Beach in San Francisco, Russian River at Guerneville (CA) and San Onofre State Beach (just south of Orange County (CA) on I-5 (one hour north of San Diego). I had fun there in Feb-March and met up with one of my flasher buddies from the Net. (See his photo at left below).

Of course, it's more thrilling to try to get naked (with or without the swimming) at the pool, or jacuzzi, or the beach or anywhere that nudity isn't expected.


I used to teach at a school (K-12) that had a pool. Since I had a key to the locker room (with access to the pool), I would sometimes go late at night and swim naked in the pool. I found out later on that one of male teacher had done the same but got caught and in trouble. Eventually, they beefed up security and put a stop to all late night swimming (changed locks).

Somtimes, it's possible to get naked in a hotel pool or jacuzzi when not many people are around. At other times, I've tried going completely naked from my tent to the campground toilet / shower - at night of course - while camping. Have stripped and gone skinny dipping at many places - public parks, state and national parks - Yosemite has some (cold water freezes your balls!) great places for that. The Big Island (actually part of all the islands of Hawaii) have many beaches where it's possible to skinnydip without offending others. Waipio Valley - out from Honokaa in the northeastern area of the Big Island has a great place where people frequently (spontaneously - not a regular practice and probably frowned on since there are
Deserted stretch at Waipio Valley (photo)

tourists (from the US mainland - Bible-belters) but once you descend the steep road downt the valley entrance (on foot - of course), you can cross the fresh water river that flows into the ocean, and go to the northern (deserted) stretch of the beach. I've seen many people get naked there (including me and friends) for skinnydipping. People can just see tiny figures bobbing around from their lookout point at the time.


Kehena Black Sand Beach (Puna Coast, Big Island)


Of course, my all-time favorite place to skinnydip is Kehena Black Sand's Beach on Hawaii's Puna coast. It's not just about showing your goodies on a nude beach. It's a marvelous place where nature's splendour, the chance to swim with dolphins and see whales, mix with the convivial atmosphere of the local tradition of a hippie holiday romp on the beach - complete with all sorts of naked and semi-clothed characters - all of whom are welcoming, tolerant, and often buzzed.
 
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Exhibitionism and Public Sex Outdoors
As an ardent would-be exhibitionist, I find that I'm really more like a avid nudist/naturist who would like to be seen by other males. Although true trenchcoat cock flashing is a rare activity, love to get naked where it's not quite expected and love getting others to be naked with me. I write about this on my blog or at
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dickflash dot com.

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My most memorable 'flashing' experience was in a public park on Tokyo Bay (at Odaiba) in June a few summer ago. I was sitting nude (there were other people in various states of undress, but none completely naked) in a semi-secluded area (regular pedetrian parks goer couldn't easily see, but anyone who
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had mind too could get an eyeful. I was far enough away from the other people or from the Rainbow Bridge in the distance to not be obviously exposing myself naked. Still, I had a few guys come up and get a glimpse (one even chatted a minute). But the highlight of that afternoon was when a cute Japanese guy about 20 yo who seemed overly curious, arrived and noticed me. He kept getting closer and closer, pretending to be looking out the ocean scenery, but obviously throwing glances at the naked foreigner. When I started pulling on my now erect cock, he took the bait and eventually came up and stood nearby. He was just too intrigued and wanted to see my cock and see me jack off, so he stood almost over me - in the end, he stood right over me, spreading my legs wider with his own, and giving me soft verbal commands to beat off til I ejaculated. He didn't get naked himself, but it was one of the hottest exhibitionist experiences I have had - to be
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approached by a perfect stranger who turned me on and was himself turned on my public sexual behavior. It was one of my first CMNM) (clothed male-naked-male) experiences that involved sex (well - I reached ejaculation - although it wasn't mutual). That experience sort of ratched up the level for what I expected from flashing and exhbitionism from myself- but since then, I've not really had the same of level of exhibitionist experience. Having sex at a gay nude beach is pretty hot especially while other guys watch - which is definitely why I go to gay baths or public cruising spots (it's being seen nude that is so arousing), but it's almost expected there - meaning it's not that out of the ordinary.
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Recently, taking a new friend to a nude beach - and getting him to go naked with me was a really fun time. But it was about sex, really. I could go on but will stop and continue enjoying other guy's stories.
 
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(Laupahoehoe Point, north of Hilo, Big Island)
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Everyone has a 'favorite' island but it really depends on what you like doing (or not - i.e. just chilling - as was noted earlier) and how long you have to stay in the various islands. If it's your first visit to Hawaii (hopefully not the last), you should probably start by visiting Oahu - since you get the full course - the night life, gay bars and gay baths/sauna (only one is Max's Gym), nice beaches (but crowded), shopping / restaurants, history (Pearl Harbor), good public transportation( thebus.org) . There are public buses to Pearl Harbor and the North Shore (so renting a car is a luxury not a necessity). Nudity is prohibited on Diamond Head Beach (below the Light House - but some people do it anyway)


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(on 'Red Road' just above Kehena Beach)
If you want to meet people, I recommend the Waikiki hostels, for example Beachside Hostel is just around the corner from Hula's. Shared rooms make the trip if you are alone or even couples) more interesting.

Queen Kapiolani Hotel, athe east end of Waikiki is right across from the Zoo on Kapahulu Ave; it is old but there are plenty of renovated rooms, (although not great views - why would you want to stay in your room to see the views anyway?), and it's one of the cheaper full-service hotels accommodations just a half block from Waikiki Beach and next door to Hula's.

My other recommendation for a more adventurous Hawaiian trip would be to start in Honolulu (or end up there for a few days - for example, a weekend), but spend 3-5 days travelling around the Big Island. You will need a rental car - while it's just a luxury on Oahu.
There are B&B, hotels, and condo, as well as camping (by permit), snorkelling or diving with manta rays (Kona), or spend the days at Kohala beaches, drive around North Kohala (Hawi - for good food and artwork / hand crafted objects), head through Waimea (cowboy country), and go hiking down Waipio Valley at Honoka'a, visit the historic old town of Hilo, spend a couple of nights at Kalani Oceanside Resort (room, cottage or camping) or Absolute Paradise B & B, having time to visit Kehena Black Sand Beach, and the warm tidal ponds,
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(Kalani's drive way)

and also the Hawaii Volcanoes National Parks (night views of lava flows can be thrilling), then complete circling the island, heading south to around Na'alehu and back to Kona from the south or alternatively go back thru Hilo and take the Saddle Road (Hwy 200) over the plateau between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa peaks (snow sometimes cover them in Dec-Feb, don't worry but you aren't driving in it at this altitude - although there is skiiing up higher). The diving in Kona-Kailua and in Kohala is fantastic.

See these sites for more:
driveguidemagazines.com (for maps of all the islands)
kalani.com
absoluteparadise.tv
odysseyhawaii.com
 
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