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hornyswiss Switzerland : Zurich	Original posting: hornyswiss 20 Nov 2008, 07:19 let's make a gay-nude-beaches guide here! which gay-nude-beach do you know? 1. name 2. place 3. state/country (how to find)
Matthew1 Canada : British Columbia : Vancouver
hornyswiss Switzerland : Zurich
crotchguy France : Paris age: 51
cocktails6 South Africa :Johannesburg age: 39
DiamondDog Australia : Melbourne

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Follow up: Matthew1 ​ 20 Nov 2008, 12:27 Sandy Bay Cape Town SOUTH AFRICA Drive along the Atlantic Coast from Cape Town towards Hout Bay. You will see a sign directing you to the seaside community of Llandudno. There are two beaches...Llandudno and Sandy Bay. Follow the signs. Parking limited. The beach is about a 15 min. walk from the car park Wreck Beach Vancouver, BC CANADA A huge beach and very popular. You can buy almost anything on the beach...food, trinkets, alcohol, etc... Access is via a steep set of stairs. Its near the University of BC. A must when visitng Vancouver in summer.

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Follow up: hornyswiss 22 Nov 2008, 06:59 thanks. anybody else into gay-nude-beaches with some hot tipps around the world? ​

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Follow up: crotchguy ​ 22 Nov 2008, 14:17 Beach Number 7 Between Maspalomas and Playa del Inglés Gran Canaria island (part of Spain, off the coast of southern Morocco) Part of a huge beach stretching for miles, with something for everyone. There's non-nude, straight nude and gay nude. Also, endless sand dunes for cruising buck naked...

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Follow up: cocktails6 22 Nov 2008, 19:47 ​ Ohla Du Boi Buzios Brazil Buzios is just over a 2 hour drive from Rio and a great holiday town. If your in Rio spend a few days there.Go to Bravo beach look for the footpath at the far right - Follow this up the hill then back down again - Its a shit walk but well worth the while when you see all those huge brazilian cocks swinging around and there's always action up on the rocks. Just take your own refreshments - there is a guy selling there but he's 4 x more expensive than anywhere else.

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Follow up: DiamondDog 22 Nov 2008, 19:54 Kings Beach Byron Bay Australia... google the Pink guide and you can read up on it

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Zack Randall Jerk-off Medley
Hung sexy fit gay amateur Zack Randall in a home made video of his best jerk off sessions medley.


Zach Sucking and then Jacking With A Friend

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Dean Phoenix And Zack Randall
On the warm sand of the beach, gay mature Dean Phoenix is fucking 23 yo Zack Randall like a real man.

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Arpad and Zack Randall at MenMachine.com


Zack is a devout student of the holy order and moral code. But even he can't resist the temptation of pushing open the door of curiosity, that leads to the devilish intentions of a Mr. Arpad Miklos. He has no idea what he's in for until he's in Arpad's clutches, which may well be exactly what he wants.

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Angel Benton interviews Zack Randall (part 1)
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Arpad and Zack Randall at MenMachine.com

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Zack is a devout student of the holy order and moral code. But even he can't resist the temptation of pushing open the door of curiosity, that leads to the devilish intentions of a Mr. Arpad Miklos. He has no idea what he's in for until he's in Arpad's clutches, which may well be exactly what he wants.





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He pounded his cock inside me like a jackhammer, then made broad, circular motions inside me, like he was trying to drill a new asshole. Then he took my rock-hard prick into his hand and started to jack me off. With each stroke, he shoved his cock in deeply and withdrew it. He grabbed my balls with his other hand and pulled on them hard as he jacked away. I was ready to cum. He rammed harder and harder, and then, without warning, he pulled his dick out of my ass and shoved me to the floor. Standing over me, he jacked himself off and shot his huge load all over my face. My own cock jumped and I shot too.

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Some of his cum hit me in the eye and it was burning. He grabbed another rag off the shelf and tossed it to me. Walking toward the door, he turned and smile, "Clean up you little faggot and get your ass in the house for dinner." I wheeled around and said defiantly, "Wait a minute, Dad, I want to talk to you. What do you think Mom would say if she found out you fucked your son? Or what do you think she should
say if she knew that big, hot dick of yours was sticking through every glory hole in town? I don't think she'd like it."

"You little cunt," he shot back. "Not only are you a goddam, fucking faggot, you're a goddam snitch. I'm not gonna take that kind of crap from you. And I'm not about to be blackmailed." "No, Dad," that's not what I had in mind. But there is something you ARE gonna take from me," I grinned while unzipping my pants, and taking out my now rock-hard dick. "You're gonna do what I say, or I'm gonna tell her everything." Dad paled at my threat. I had him by the balls, so to speak,
and although he wasn't ready to admit it quite yet, he knew it.

"Now drop your pants, bend over and grab you're ankles, turkey. Now YOU'RE going to learn what it feels like to get the big dick shoved up YOUR butt." "You goddam little prick. I oughta beat the shit out of you for even thinking such a thing. If you think you're gonna fuck me, you're out of your goddam mind," he snarled. "Well, Dad, it's either that, or I have a heart-to-heart talk with Mom," I grinned. "And it'll be all over town that you fucked you're own son!"

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I grabbed some hand cleanser, the kind mechanics use, off the work bench and handed it to him. You better smear some of this around your asshole, or it's going to hurt," I ordered. "Christ, I don't believe this! Come on, kid, I was only playing around this afternoon. And I thought you'd enjoy a little action. I know how horny a boy your age can get," he said, obviously trying to assuage me. "I was just trying to help." "Well, Dad, it looks like it's my turn to help you," I smiled back. "Now bend over and spread those fucking cheeks." He looked frantic, very much like a caged tiger that knows all the escape doors are closed.

"Please don't make me do that," his voice said pleadingly. "You'll ruin me. I've heard that once a man gets fucked, he's a queer for life. Do you want to do that to me?" "That's not my problem," I said with an evil grin on my face. "I just want to stick my dick in you to let you know what it feels likes. And if you don't get your pants down right now, I'm gonna tell."

Dad was defeated and he knew it. He really didn't have any options unless he wanted it all over town that he was fucking his son. As he bent over slowly, I approached his hot hairy ass from behind. With some of the excess lube from his asshole, I
lathered up my dick and pressed it against his asshole. The hairs around that hot ass felt hot as I got into final position for the long drive home.

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As I shoved it in, he let out a loud scream. "Oh, god! That hurts like a sonafabitch!" Poor Dad. He forgot that his faggot son had a dick like a fucking stud horse. As my cock went further and further into his tight asshole, I could feel that tight, hot muscle wrapping itself around me, giving me just the friction I needed. "Oh my god,"he whimpered, as I began to slide my rock hard cock in and out of him. "Okay, asshole, now get over on your back and get those legs up."

On his back, he looked hotter than ever, and I noticed his was starting to beat himself off as I was pounding him. The look of horror that had been on his face only seconds ago was replaced by one that indicated he was actually enjoying it!
A few more thrusts and I exploded, sending one hot load of hot, white cream after another into that hot, hairy asshole. When I finished, I picked up the rag he had shoved in my mouth and tossed it back to him.

"Here you go, Dad. Clean out your ass. Wouldn't want Mom to know you just got his butt fucked by a faggot, would we?" "No, I don't think we would," he said, almost grinning. As we walked back into the house, he started to put his arm around me affectionately. Then he caught himself and pulled back. I could tell that a certain closeness had developed between us within the past few hours, one that would probably last for a long time.

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I knew it was not be the last time I spend the afternoon
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E-mail: jerryg(at) pacbell.net
Home Page: http://www.GeoCities.com/SoHo/1344
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An original story by Jerry Gaither. Originally published at:http://www.nifty.org/nifty/gay/incest/glory-hole-and-dad

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It was really the first time I had ever gone to the park restroom and sucked a cock through a glory hole. I had thought about it and fantasized about it, but until that day, I
had never done it. For weeks, I had been as horny as hell just thinking about it, but then again, what 18-year-old isn't horny at least 24
hours a day?

I'd known I was gay for the past two years. Ever since I started to fantasize about my English teacher. I used to go to school and get a hard-on first thing in the morning, just thinking about him and waiting for his class to begin.

He was about 40, slightly greying hair and VERY HOT! He wore his tight sport shirts open at the neck so I could see all black curly hair all over his chest. And I've always had
a thing about older guys. Even my dad is a real hunk. Very broad shoulders that taper down into a narrow waist, thick dark hair. He had that raw, natural sex appeal. Of course, he's all man, and if he knew his son was a cocksucker, he'd be shocked.

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The other day I went to the park after school and manned the center stall in the men's room. No one is ever in that park in the afternoon except the cocksuckers and guys wanting to get sucked. I had been there about a half-hour and I already sucked a couple of dicks, one belonging to a big hot stud in a letterman's jacket that indicated he played football at high school. He was hot! Then a guy in a business suit came in who pulled his cock out of the hole before he shot his load into his hand. His cock was long and thick and he'd shot so much cum into my mouth that I couldn't swallow it fast enough. A lot of it had dripped down my chin and onto my clothing.
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I decided to wait a few more minutes and then go home when another guy came in. He pulled out his big thick cock and shoved it through the hole. It was veiny with a mushroom-shaped head that was enormous. He rammed it down my throat and then pulled it out just as fast, and kept this up while I continue to lick all the way around his enormous prick. I was sure my jaws would break with the hammering they were
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Then I could feel him tense up and release as he shot a huge load into my waiting mouth. I swallowed his mammoth load and hear him say in a very low voice, "Thank you." I stood up, wiped off my face with some toilet paper and then stepped out of the stall. Standing there, combing his hair was my father!

Holy shit!!! I had just sucked off my own dad. He didn't seem to know how to react; neither did I. He tried to look surprised, then I could see an angry expression form on his face. It was not the easiest of circumstances. "Fuck!" he yelled. "My goddam son is a fucking bathroom cocksucker! He grabbed me roughly by the arm and
literally dragged me to his car. We didn't talk at all on the way home, and I was relieved when we pulled in the driveway. I headed toward the front door, but he motioned me toward the garage. I followed him, very much afraid of what would come next.

He sat down on a crate and pulled me over his lap and told me he was going to beat my ass until it was red and blistered. He pulled down my Levis and jockey shorts and began slapping my ass with those huge, rough hands of his. I cried out with
each smack until he told me to shut the fuck up and take it like a man. Then he pulled a rag off the shelf and shoved it in my mouth. My ass was red hot and sore as hell, but much to my surprise, my cock was rock hard. He just kept hitting my ass harder and harder until he finally felt I had enough. My hand reached for my burning asscheeks, certain there would be blood. I was thankful to discover there wasn't.

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He just looked at me without saying a word. I wasn't sure if he were still angry or whether he was going to start beating me again. Finally, he started to talk. "So my son's suckin' dick in the park, huh? Well, we all know that cocksuckers love to get their asses plugged. Right?" And with that, he smiled what seemed at the time to be the most evil smile I ever saw. I was a virgin so far as getting fucked was concerned. I had thought about it, but not seriously. I was really frightened at the thought of some large muscle invading my asshole.

As he unbuttoned his pants, I could see his enormous dick again. Surely, he wasn't going to try and fuck me with that! But then he shoved me face down on an old sofa in the garage and spit into his hand. After coating his cock with the saliva in his hand, there was nothing more to imagine. He actually intended to fuck me. Before I could adjust to the idea, he rammed his cock into me with one enormous shove. My ass was burning inside and I wanted to scream. But the rag he had shoved in my mouth muffled any sound I wanted to make.

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His sudden entry was painful and I struggled to get away from him. But he wrapped his enormous forearm around my neck and held me in position. "Okay, buster, now you're gonna take it like a man," he said, as he started to pound my asshole. He pulled his cock out of me slowly, then quickly shoved in back inside me until his hot, muscled thighs were pounding against my previously virgin ass. "My son, the faggot, likes to get fucked, does he?, he sneered. "Well, this is one fucking you're never going to forget.

 

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{Note: The photo on the left shows what I wanted to do to the young Japanese twink I was sleeping next to that night.}

He seemed to be taking a long time to get dressed. Although it sounded like a good way to save coins stacking us up to use it in quick rotation -- my instincts told me that Tai had conceived of this plan to get a gander at my goodies. He even sent his buddy to fetch something back at the cabin - thus giving him some extra time to chat me up innocently. Of course, I got a semi-hard on -- not too obvious because I really
was not trying to seduce him, but he HAD gone to a bit of maneuvering to get to see my cock -- so I did not grab a towel -- but let him get a good look.
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Well, I know this is about fooling around with sleeping guys -- so I am getting to that.
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The eight of us were sharing the same cabin-- which has simple mats for the floor instead of beds.After the showering "incident," I was eager to see where Tai would place his mat. Sure enough, after the card game that ended around midnight, he was pulling up his mat and pillow right next to me in the corner of room. His buddy was on his right and I was on his left next to the wall.
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Like other JUBers might think too, when I am in bed with a strange man, I just CANNOT get to sleep easily. Since Tai has seemed to make it clear that he wanted something from me or was interested in me (like being his daddy -- not just sexual either - I am not sure he is out at all -- which can be a very awkward - if not risky situation). To cut a too long story short, I was up all night and my cock was most up too. Tai tossed and turned, but he did appear to be really a sleep. I am not his instructor, but I work at the institution he attends, so I was not going to do anything forced or coercive.
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But I certainly had plenty of opportunity to get nudged and sort of hugged by him (front and back). I did my share of hugging, rubbing and innocently placing my hand near his crotch and lean into his rounded butt. At one point, I really thought I was going to cum and was leaking pre-cum copiously.
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My cock went right up the crack of his ass and our gentle but regular breathing created a erotic rhythm that was about to drive me over the edge. But I don't think he was not really "into" having sex -- probably he does not know what he wants and it is not my place to bring him to any further conscious realization about whether he does or not -- -- so I did not take any actions that could not be construed as just innocent "bumps." He was both heaven and hell.[FONT="tahoma" , "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT]
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The experience is something I'll remember for a long time to come.
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Sleepless on a camping trip next to hot 19-year-old Japanese twink

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I don't really have a fetish about sleep, but I think a guy who is sleeping sometimes turns out to be even more sexually attractive from the very fact that he appears innocent and vulnerable. I have a recent story (posted on my blog) about getting very excited while sleeping next to a hot 19 year-old guy who had given every indication of being interested in me and my body. It was one of those long sleepness nights next to a hot man -- where you are borderlone alseep but mostly awake and trying every which way to cop a feel,
grab some ass or put your stiff prick up next to his crack. I don't really think Tai was so innocent because of his mannerisms, and the way he contrived the circumstances, but I did manage to respect his vulnerability - although if he really WAS awake for part of my ministrations, he certainly is wiser in the ways of male-male bonding -- especially when sleeping to an older man in a camp cabin.


I have just returned from a camping trip with some students at the institution where I am an instructor. This is a annual fall camp-out. This time there wasa group of 7 m/f and all over 18. It was a school outing, but camping often seems to bring out the primary instincts - horniness.[FONT="tahoma" , "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot]​

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One Freshmen guy named Tai was along who seemed a bit overly interested in me.
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I had no intentions of encouraging him, but he would not give up. Even before we took an evening hike, he and his buddy were asking if we would be back in time to take a shower. The campground had coin operated showers.As the hike leader, I made sure we got back before the camp staff closed them for the evening (10:30pm). The two guys asked me if I was going to shower too, so I agreed. It appears they arranged for me to be between them.
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Tai got in first, but before his 3 minutes was up, he called out to say that I could come in a get started. He "helped" get my things arranged while he stood there in the nude. He took my clothes as I undressed; he was standing the small dressing area outside the shower area.
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I watched as he devoured my cock, it was as if he couldn't get enough. I'm embarrassed to say it, but I didn't last very long. I told him I was going to cum but he didn't stop. So with my cock in his mouth, his fingers in my ass, and mine in his hair, I pulled his face in and shoved my cock so far down his throat and came; he loved it. We finished up in the shower and moved to his bed.



This time I knew it was my turn to please, so I started on his cock right away. I could feel my cock getting bigger as I sucked him. He was loud, moaning in pleasure as he got his cock sucked. I was fully ready to swallow my dad's load, but he had other plans. He pulled me close to him and we start to kiss. I never knew how passionate he was until this moment.



We kissed for a good ten minutes while he grabbed at my ass. I knew what he had in mind, so I got up, turned around, and got on my hands and knees and told him, "Fuck me daddy." He didn't hesitate. He began eating out my freshly cleaned asshole and before I knew it, he was shoving his thick 8" cock into my asshole. He didn't use a condom or lube. I cried out in pain as he shoved his cock deeper and deeper into my ass. He seemed to like my screaming because he didn't pull out to lube anything up, he just went to town. It's starting to feel good. The pain starts to morph into pleasure and before I know it my screams change to moans. Next thing I knew he turned me on my back grabbed my ankles and spread my legs out wide.



He's pounding my ass. "Harder!" I manage to say. And without hesitation he goes harder, faster, and gets louder. I'm screaming at this point, he is hitting my g-spot perfectly and I start to feel nothing but euphoria. I grab my leaking cock and jack off as we make eye contact. I felt my cock swell and my ass tighten, and he must have known because he drops my legs and comes in close and kisses me and thrusts once more and...bliss.



It was as if our bodies were in sync because we both came at the same time. This was the best orgasm I have ever experienced. The feeling of a huge cock rammed into my ass, warm cum jetting deeper into my asshole, my father biting my neck in pleasure as he experiences seeding his son, and cumming all over my chest.


What made it the best was that it was my dad. The cock that made me gave me its seed. We just laid there in the same position, just kissing for what felt like hours, until we heard the garage open, and as soon as it had started, it had ended. We had sex regularly until I left for school for second semester about a month later. We continue to have sex to this day and it is still as glorious as our first time.


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Daddy Was Curious Too

by loganmayer©

My dad and I didn't start having sex until I was 18, this was around the time I had come out to my family that I was gay. I was home from my first semester of college around Christmas time. The house was empty except my dad and I. I had a question for him about what to get my mother for Christmas, so I went into his room, and as soon as I walk in the door, my dad walks out of his bathroom wet and completely naked.


It was really awkward for me but he didn't seem to mind it because he didn't try to cover up at all; he just let his hairy juicy half erect cock hang there. I could tell he was jerking off in the shower. I couldn't help but stare right at his cock, which was getting bigger by the second. I look up and my dad is looking right at me with a huge smile. I struggled to ask him my question about what to get my mom, he replied, "It can wait."


He walked over closer to me and asked me what I thought about this situation. Not going to lie, by this point I have a full on boner and I had no intention of hiding it, I got the feeling he didn't want me to. I told him, "It's getting me hard." That was when he grabbed my crotch, "Lets go get cleaned up," he said. I was speechless.



We walk into his bathroom and he starts to take off my clothes. When he got to my pants, I could feel his hands shaking with anticipation as he paused and looked up at me with a huge smile on his face and asked if I was okay with what was about to unfold. You need to know, my dad isn't the smiley type; the smile he had on his face was the biggest smile I have ever seen him have. I knew he had been fantasizing this moment for as long as I had been and knew that whatever happened next would be extraordinary.
We get in the shower and he starts washing me. He washed my back as he kissed my neck ever so softly. Pulling me closer into him, leaving no space between us, he washed my chest and abs from behind. I could feel his rock hard cock pressed against my butt and wondered how long I would have to wait until it was inside me. He turned me around so I was facing him. We gazed into each other's eyes. It was my turn so I reach for the soap but he stops me, takes the soap, and gets on his knees. He started on my legs, kissing them as he slowly cleaned his way up, until he got to my inner thigh right below my cock, which is fully erect and right in his face. I watch him as he stared right at my cock as he reaches behind me in order to thoroughly clean my ass. I reach for his head and pull it in towards my cock. I couldn't believe it; my dad had my cock in his mouth.

 

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But evidently, the Group Admin is either not interested or not involved -- who knows maybe he's graduated from college now and joined has a full-time job (LOL).


Has anybody tried writing him?


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Now, I'm going to try to write to the Group Admin myself.

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To: Group Admin (Naked Fun in College )Flickr Group


Subject: Problem on Naked Fun in College
Are you active involved in administering this Flickr group anymore?


There are some possible Flickr TOS (terms of service) problems on the Naked Fun in College group. I see public photos of what FLICKR defines as pornography.


That should NOT be happening.
I'm not saying this because I'm a self-righteous moral judge - it's because the issue is causing there to be bickering and heated arguments between some few (but vocal) members.



Can you speak up about the group's policy? or Try to get a idea from members if they want to take the group private? I think you should act quickly before Yahoo (Flickr) shuts down the group.


If you don't care or don't answer, then I'll give up and move on (quit the group). However, it was a kind of symbolic political gesture to try to seek a solution to this (a personal conviction about how people CAN find just and viable solutions).


But the fact that there are 3700 people members of the group should tell you that you DO have some responsibility as group admin. One solution is to appoint other group administrators or some group moderators who can help out.


It's weird - actually scary -- that you have NO Flickr profile, no contacts and apparently NO photos available to me.

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Hope to hear something (or at least read your posts at the group discussion board.


Thanks,


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After a little bit of investigation, I came to the realization and a decision.
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Hey, I just discovered the the group administrator: calvin2005rt
1) has no public photos (that's not bad - of course) but just strange.


2) has no contacts or Flickr friends


3) No profile - Zilch - Zero - Nada!


4) HE is a member of ONLY one public group - this one -one he started and now DOESN'T administrate.

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That means he is may NOT even a real person.


Maybe Flickr (Yahoo) just created this group to test out the boundaries of its 'censorship' crackdown.


I wrote Flickrmail to him - but I've decided to not wait for an answer.


Anybody who starts a group and then doesn't have enough balls / guts or decency of character to post their own profile (or post pics to that group) is not the kind of person I want to spend time with (or whom I want to 'defend' or assist by trying to 'go to bat' for to uphold the principles of free speech, tolerance and human dignity for.

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Spooky, creepy, and simply screwed - I'm out here.


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I'll only go back to that group if it's private and the purpose / rules are clearly stated and consistently enforced.


Society means finding the important but delicate balance between the individual's desires and the necessity setting limits on them for the collective good.

 

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The fact is the main contributors to the pool of this group's photos have already created another group and moved on. In a few short weeks, we have accumulated more photos of the guys having naked fun in college than this group has -- none of it is pornographic (meaning no erect penis or oral/vaginal/anal sex). It is currently public and maintains a policy of not allowing pornography (or even erections).


Certainly, that was a quick solution to the problem. Just make another group as several people have suggested (or demanded) above. That's the easy way out. For me, it is still a cop out - cut and run.. let the bullies win, don't show your backbone or tuck tail and slink away. I don't do that easily.
Therefore, I spoke up on this issue-- in a rational non-emotional way -- because I DO believe that gay and straight people do NOT have to always come to a point of irreconcilable differences -- that kind of 'aparteid' -- "equal but separate" thinking should have passed out of existence in the last century and I am trying to be a voice of reason and acceptance of diverse lifestyles and tolerance of different forms of sexual (and human) expression.

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It is ironic that the very person who speaks up about showing tolerance, then get bashed by another gay heterophobe. Jeesh. what's the world come to? Hardly the world, that brand of misguided "queer nation radicalism "is as out of touch with the evolution of humantiy as right-wing Islamic terrorism. See... I DO HAVE strong opinions.


I see it won't be easy to accomplish that idealistic goal (str8 and gay people living togehter in peace and harmony - but it's a symbolic struggle) when people don't bother to read , or don't want to read and understand what's written, or what more insidious when they can't even see through to the core of an issue without clouding their mind's eye with some form of emotional rage or vengeful atttitude -- that's been obvious from people on both sides of the gay/straight fence.

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I am still hopeful for humanity -- despite some very non-humanitarian attitudes expressed by a few vocal members here.

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We' ve yet to hear from the 3770 other people who belong to this group or from the Group Admin himself.


Thanks for taking the time to read.


No reply is required. No public apologies necessary (on my behalf).


I don't hold people accountable for what they say (write) in the passionate heat of the moment (as long as they recognize within themselves that that IS what they've done).

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Aloha and Happy Lunar Fullness to all,


Kelly
(sunbuns / sunbuns99 / sunbunz)

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sunbuns says: boot2,
An easy solution is not always the best one. I am not ragging on you about what you wrote earlier. Just looking for a solution (if it's possible).. otherwise I'm out of here too.


The real issue is that now some (recently joining) members are posting photos of exactly what you yourself say we don't want (in this Flickr group) - close-up pics of gentials or blatant sex acts.


Of the last 60 pics uploaded, the majority or pics are not of people in college getting naked for the fun of it (meaning 'social camaraderie or getting nude or pulling off clothes at an event or party where the effect of being nude it to make people laugh, enjoy the spirit of the moment, or a college tradition - like 'naked campus runs, etc).

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So I agree it would be annoying is people were taking pictures of their pet 'pussy' (or dick)- Hey, wait. .. but that IS what they are doing now. It was not like that a few week ago. I think it's because the administrator of this group is 'on summer vacation'.


The most recent pics are of coeds and college-age guys showing tits or ass, or erect cock, sucking dick or whatever - just for the shock effect.


If that is what people want, then the group needs to be made private.

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The problem IS we don't have any way to KNOW what 'people' want. This group's been hijacked since the Group Admin is asleep at the helm. Otherwise, I'm afraid Flickr Admin WILL come crashing down on it.


I just don't want to quit the group and look like I'm fleeing a sinking ship. I'd rather see the Group Admin do his job. Either set standards or ask what direction the group member wan to do and then act accordingly (set a new purpose, make rules about posting photos and then enforce them). As I wrote earlier that IS how large Flickr group work (actually the only way the work successfully).


Don't you agree with that?


Besides, what would 'naked fun in college' be if we could NOT show guys and girls asses, chests/breasts, and gentials -- well naked university-aged people having fun on or near college campuses.
HOWEVER, it's the STATE (erect dick - gaping pussy, cock in ass or cunt) of these that makes the BIG difference between porn and naked fun (no pun intended).

 

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boot2 says:
Actually yppy, guess what's really stupid? A bunch of pictures of cocks. Get a life.


All you have to do is start a group called 'cock pictures' and hang out there. It'll be heaven for you.
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ballistikcoffeeboy says:
grow the hell up... you are a homophobic asshole... u need to leave the group if you are this hostile towards our members... boot2... the same to you. why don't we just delete everything and stare at a blank screen, bcuz u guys certainly wouldn't post anything if u had it your way.


-B-
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ballistikcoffeeboy says:
sunbuns: just because he apologized for his homophobic rant doesn't make it go away... doesn't make the rest of us (who are gay members on here) feel vindicated... are u the moderator? if so, i'm out of here. you are as homophobic as he is by allowing it to be said. how DARE you say he's homophobic BUT he's right... ??????
-B-
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boot2 says:
ballistik are you retarded? Quit calling everyone that disagrees with you a homophobe. Just because I don't like looking at cock all day doesn't mean I'm a homophobe, it just means that I'm not a homo. God, what a prick you are.


I suggested an EASY solution that would make everyone happy and you come on here crying and whining, feeling all oppressed and calling everyone names.

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This group is not called 'take a picture of your own cock' just like it's not a group called 'take a picture of your dog'. It would be just as annoying if everyone started posting pictures of their pets. Just get that stupid shit out of here. Please.
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sunbuns says:
No, I'm not the moderator.... just trying to be a voice of moderation.


Obviously, that attempt seemed to fall short of what some people (most noticeably Ballistikcoffeeboy), who apparently seems to advocate -- 'burning homophobes at the stake' (my words of analogy - not his) and even people who someone think is homophobic but who is obviously not (myself being one). How can I be homophobic -- I'm GAY, biyaatch! (LOL)


It was not so long ago that gay people were called 'faggots' (a word Spiru used in his initial posting) because they were added as extra and insignificant fuel for the flames that burned witches, murders and political prisoners.

If you're not willing to allow someone (yes, EVEN str8 men) the basic human dignity of admitting (publically even) their mistake (saying something cruel, inflammatory, obscene, unthinking, or morally/politically incorrect), then that may very well be an 'evil' equal if not even worse than the homophobia you and I so despise. I'd say that attitude borders on 'heterophobia'. After all, he ONLY said (wrote) some 'words' and then he apologized (yes, I realize he didn't retract them -- but you sound like you would NOT ever forgive him - no matter what he could say or do).


To then deny that anything he could ever say could not possibly be 'right' is even more discriminatory than his calling those photos he referred to as "your fagget bullshit."


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Obviously, it's an emotionally supercharged issue for several people. I'm not at all trying to say he was right about his homophobic rant. I am saying I recognize that he tried to apologize.
What else can he do?


Only a few years ago, not only would he have not felt any need to apologize but he'd probably be supported in making such discriminatory remarks by dozens of other people.


His thinking is right about this 'public' Flickr group's purpose: "intended for candid pictures of college nudity, not blatent pornography" because those are the TOS (Terms of Service) for operating a Flickr group.


The real issue is not showing male or female nudity - it IS about showing photos of sex acts (or pornography) in a PUBLIC Flickr group.

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Concerning my seeming to forgive (not overlook) bad human attitudes -- I try to model the type of attitudes and behavior that I expect reasonable humans to demonstrate. I hold an even higher standard for people of my own tribe - gay men!

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The fact that you interpreted my own comments to be those of a liberal straight man with a 'hidden' homophobic attitude is really telling. - - really sad actually. It shows possibly that some people's emotional control about this issue may be far overshadowing their good judgment.


I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt - if they make a mistake once and apologize, I'll try to consider 'forgiveness' and 'acknowledging their self-growth' as desirable ways to respond to their 'change' or adjusted attitude/behavior. I felt that way about SpiruAgnui 'mistake' and subsequent 'apology'.


What's it going to prove to get on a moral high-horse and to keep on blaming, accusing, and unrelenting in a lack of understanding for human mistakes - that's a bad an attitude as what you are saying you despise.


Some of the other's comments don't even deserve any form of response. WE ALL know what it says about the person who wrote it.

 

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SpiruAgnui says:
OK, look.... Apologies for my anti-homosexual rant. But this group is intended for candid pictures of college nudity, not blatent pornography. Any jerk can just take an upclose shot of their body.. but that's not what this group is intended for. Seriously, if that's what you're posting, start another group for that subject specifically. Posted 34 hours ago. ( permalink )


yppy20 says:
@ SpiruAgnui: the vast majority of the pictures posted conform to your "rule" - and some don't. Why do you feel so uncomfortable seeing a penis, even in thumbnail? You DO realise that "naked fun" means you are bound to encounter some penises? Perhaps you should join "naked college girls", instead.... " pornographic fag pictures of cocks, etc"
Please: do you really think we consider you heterosexual because you used an expletive? Quite the contrary: the fact that you feel the need to "speak out" makes you suspect, at least. As said: please try to come to terms with your (subdued) homosexuality

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Oh and @ boot 2: please: I couldn't *possibly* formulate a probable answer. Your submission is just too..... [ytes, this is how I feel] STUPID!
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sunbuns says:
Unfortunately, any real possibility for further discussion is probably going to be moot. The visciousness (or repressed anger) among these few last few posting on this discussion has reached an unacceptable level.

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While I might understand the reason for the vociferous opinions offered above, the fact is that 'real' pornography -- not mine own definition but the legal one -- is now being posted in this group and they are pubic photos. It may not be long before Flickr Admin shuts it down.


I'd like to see the group be made private (or clean up its act) and also see it set rules about having no photos of explicit scenes of sex acts between any genders.


Having SEX IS NOT only WHAT having "fun in college' is about. Even SpiruAgnui (I'm glad he apologized for his ranting) has said it clearly: "this group is intended for candid pictures of college nudity, not blatent pornography". I agree.
If you didn't notice, the vast majority of photos involved college guys showing skin, chests, butts, and penises. Coed naked parties are kind of a fantasy (for many).
Anyway, f we don't some self-correction here, then somebody else may solve this problem for us.

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Flickr groups have a better chance of surviving and having success (not being deleted is the lowest standard of success) if several basic principles are kept intact and maintained:
1) A good definition of what the group's purpose is and what photos will be acceptable.


I realize that when someone casually starts a group like this -- based on 'fun' and by most people's recognition - 'nudity' and/or some forms of college 'party' behavior (dares, practical jokes, drunken pranks, etc) that it may not be easy to do that at first, but it eventually always comes down to making things(like the purpose and rules) finally clear enough or at least re-focusing on purpose and acceptabilitiy at some critical point along the way. I think we have passed that critical point recently.

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2) Having an active group administrator and also have active (involved) moderators. I don't find that is the case.


This group has over 3000 members but very few contributors and those people are now in conflict (stereotypical rants, name-calling, insinuations, etc) - which IS NOT acceptable for anybody (These behaviors will likely get the group busted as much as the public pornography photos).

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Get the Group Admin in here. If he can't do the job, then he should give it up. Appoint several moderators who can assist in maintain the group's purpose and agreed upon rules.


3) Going Private - Most 'big' Flickr groups where sexual or sexy behavior / nudity is a theme go private by the time they reach 300 members (membership by invitation only, rules are clear and purpose is made obvious).


4) Self-policing
If we can't manage our groups successfully without experiencing waves of anger / recrimination and worse, discrimination, the real problems will be unsurmountable. Having porn on here which is publicly accessible to anyone may actually be 'criminal'. Further illegal activity / behaviour may be discrimination based race, religion, gender or sexual preference, which is a crime in some US states or other countries. Displaying pornographic or obscene materials that could be easily available to

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minors is also illegal in some jurisdictions). Even if we're not guilty of any of that, we should manage our groups with sense of human dignity, a good sense of humour, and the respect for diversity that any college educator person should be willing to understand and hopefully advocate as a virtue, - -because if not, then this group hasn't earned its right to exist.

Hey, I'm not so self-righteous.. I love porn - but there is a place and another set of many many groups where that can be found and discussed. Also, it's just that we have heard only from a minute fraction of the members on this issue.


I think I speak for the majority - no matter what sexual persuasion, which gender, or what college we came from. We are Flickr U grads, let's act like it. (some members are still undergrads - while other may yet just flunk out and never get a degree LOL).
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Extracts from a recent Flickr group discussion:

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I learned something valuable and maybe personally important (for me at least) by 'stepping up' to the plate and advocating the idea of being tolerant for str8 men's sometimes belligerent or homophobic attitudes. What do you think?


Unfortunately, I found that even gay men are sometimes even more belligerent or discriminatory (toward str8 men) than they are us of. I explain the context(situation) and then show the actual discussion boards exchanges below.


I'm considering now what 'real' actions I can take to make a solution be actualized.

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Flickr is (undoubtedly) the world's largest photo-sharing site.
There are discussion groups inside Flickr, devoted to various interests.
This group "Naked Fun in College" has had an intellectually interesting and politically-compelling series of exchanges lately between a very few (extremely small minority of the members). Recently, the most active members -the ones who have posted the majority of photos (and who are interested in male / gay / homophilic photos) have left and started a separate group. But I hated to be 'chased' away since the actual photos being posted now are simply just amateur porn (coeds giving guys blow jobs or showing cunts). Where most of the pics up to this point were guys butt and ball and limp dicks in situation where nudity was used as a 'party' joke - not explicit sexual behaviour.

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Flickr is undergoing phenomenal growth recently and had had to deal with the problem of censorship in a rather decisive way. Currently, there are many on-going debates about the issue of censorship and under-age child possibly accessing public photos of naked people including pornograpy.


So this was one debate where I entered the fray - because the real issue is NOT about gay or straight but about what is pornography and what is a group with good leadership.


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SpiruAgnui says:
The topic is supposed to be "Naked Fun in College", yet assholes such as QueerJames keep posting pornographic fag pictures of cocks, etc. rather than the candid, naked (and yes, co-ed) material that this group was intended for. If you want to post that, start your own group and limit it strictly to your fagget bullshit.
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nudegayguy says:
I'm one of those queers. I see the title is "Naked Fun in College." The description asks for naked pictures. A picture of a cock is nudity no matter how you slice it. Frankly, I'd love to see more of the cocks and you can certainly show the ladies in any fashion/style/dress you please.
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obie099 says:
Nice post, SpiruAgnui. Are you always an asshole, or was this a special time?
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yppy20 says:
@spiruagnui: You do know that homophobia is the best indicator of latent homosexuality?
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boot2 says:
I agree Spiru, get that shit out of here. Enough is enough.
Posted 4 days ago. ( permalink )Too much Gay shit in this group: Standing up for Tolerance

 

[sunbuns99]

Am I losing you here? There are other roles that come to mind.. but it takes a bit of energy, a passion for realism but fantasy, and a place where that could happen. I've written more than I had thought. So far I've not heard from anyone in Greece.. so it appears that London will be the first 'cmnm' event that would actually get off the ground.. and that is still not determined.


Let me know what you think or how you would see it working?
If you can make any suggestions, that would be great.
Kelly (sunbuns / sunbun99 / sunbunz)

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I don't live in London or really know it that well.. but I have been several times and can get around. If you do a bit of looking online, you'll find that the address is an accommodation There is several possibilities. Since I'm already booked for a short stay there. I was thinking that our CMNM event(s) could possibly center around that location. I've had plenty of opportunities to be naked (or see naked men) while staying in a hostel. One problem is this one is not male-only - although it depends on the room

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and how many guests are staying. Also, in some hostels, local residents are not allowed to stay or sometimes the guests are not allowed to have visitors. I don't think that's the case.. but I'm not exactly sure. I've heard that the shower rooms afford some chance to some 'accidental' exposure.




We could do something so innocent as:

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1) meet in the in-house bar/restaurant for drinks or snack,


2) come visit me in my dorm room - and then get around to getting somebody naked - either one of our 'cmnm' group or maybe some of the other guys staying in the room (is that unethical?) -- maybe? But it could be a whole lot of fun.

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3) having a party in the room and play strip poker (or an easier kind of game where the loser has to remove a piece clothing until some (or all are naked).


4) More clever would be for several of our 'cmnm' group staying in the same or nearby rooms and then pretending not to know each other.. .. so we can get some going like one guy jerking off in his bunk, and then another guy (our member joining in). It would get some of the other guys (not our group) horny and they would join in the fun... Maybe a little farfetched... but you never know until you try. Outside the hostel... it's very large and could be very crowded

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5) doing some naked dares and having buddies to watch out / bring your clothes to a rendezvous point, or take photos, etc. ...


6) going to a bar/club where nudity is either allowed or required





7) perhaps some one would be willing to host a small group in his apartment, office lounge after hours..etc...


8) Another idea is to have pre-selected roles for a type of simulation - visit to a doctor's for an exam. One guys in the patient, another two play the role of physician and or specialist, there could be a male nurse who gives sponge baths. It's up to your imagination.

 

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This article is a personal rumination about the pleasures and difficulties of trying to organize a live CMNM event. There are lots of problems in getting a thing like this organized - perhaps I've bitten more than I can chew -- not to be too funny about it.
For one thing .. CMNM is about what it says it means = clothed males / naked males - it's just that that can mean a lot of different things too. It's not exactly the same as flashing a total stranger - although it could be that.



While the guys involved may be strangers (or even friends/acquaintances), there is a usually mutually agreed upon enjoyment for the nude guy(s) as well as the clothed - which is not always true when flashing - the flashee gets an eyeful whether he likes it or not.


For some, it's about dominance and subservience that matters.. so an element of hazing is desired -- commanding and obeying.. but I'm not really keen to get in those type of role-playing games (BDSM) with total strangers - whom I'll never meet again.


So how this CMNM event that can be accomplished with guys who meet in a public place for the first time will depend on who participates and where it happens. So that's another reason why I couldn't write the details... they are put together yet. I'm only a visitor - staying 3 days/2 nights.

We could meet the first night to plan what to do sometime the next day.​

Another reason for no details is security.
Putting all the details about precise location and times and everything may get the word out
better.. but it also opens it up as a target - there ARE people who in the world who have nothing better to do than badger or humiliate men who love men. So it's best to leave the details fuzzy on publicly visible boards - such as dickflash.com




So far only a couple of other guys have indicated a desire to join..- actually only two guys on this site, and a couple from elsewhere... (on this the Guys Into CMNM blog and on other sites) but also.. no one has any given any real ideas about what/when/where or how such a CMNM meetup / hookup / party can be or should be.

 

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Sunbuns[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif] (Kelly - that's me[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif] ) adds his experience:[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]The pole shower is still used in places like public beaches, where close contact isn't expected to cause a problem. [/FONT]

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[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif][FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]You can find the 'Bradley' type showers along public beaches in Hawaii and Spain (I'm sure many other places, too).[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]What's nice about them is that you can take a shower in public and stand close to some guys while each of you is occupied with the getting clean without appearing to leer or be inappropriately 'interested.' It's fun when a guy pulls[/FONT]

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[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]his swimsuit out from his body (or even down somewhat) to help wash out the sand. You can sometimes get a glimpse of his pubic hair, ass or even more.[/FONT]


[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]It seems obvious to me that some guys - straight ones - seem to enjoy this chance to do a bit of mild flashing - at least in the sexually repressed US.[/FONT]
[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]Sometimes, a few teenager or older young men find it the perfect time to horse around - such as pulling down a unwary friend's suit, and so on. So when I hang out at the beach, I find it very entertaining to stay not very far from the Bradley public shower.[/FONT]


[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif]On the nude beach at Gandia (Spain) in Sept this year, it was nice watching guys use these open-air showers either alone or together and, especially when I had timed my shower with some other dude's.[/FONT]
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James of Louisville added:
Here's another ad for the product and a similar product in use.

The Bradley company is still in operation. http://www.bradleycorp.com/

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RESPONSE by atitlan:
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these - excellent research! I remember moving from one gym with its long line of gang showers to another gym that had pole showers. I didn't like the pole variety overmuch. They were rather too intimate for comfort if all the shower jets were taken. Because we were so near one another, there was little personal space and always a risk of backing into people either side. Yes, that might not always have been unwelcome, except then there was then a further risk of developing a hard-on just inches away from a group of ostensibly straight men.


Pedro chipped in:
Those are the type I had in high school. A friend of mine would soap up my back for me.
This is where I started to develop my reputation as a tough guy.
I took cold showers.


Jason brings up his point:

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I have fond memories of the pole type showers like Bradley Corp makes. We had them in junior high and high school both! talk about having nowhere to hide and really getting to check out your classmates!


I haven't seen one in use since then in all of my travels around the States, so I am not sure who is buying these products from Bradley! Even the new gyms I go to which have gang showers have the shower heads built in to the walls around the room. They don't have the 6-person "pole" variety. I do wish I could go to a shower room that has them though!


William wanted to know:
Several years ago I frequently went to the gay bath houses......like The Club, or Midtowne; they had the Bradley shower heads, and everyone loved them. Have no idea if they still use those or not. Anyone know?


ZeroFear replied:
The YMCA I belong to in New Hampshire still has a locker room with gang/open style showers that has both the shower heads built into one wall, and then in the middle of the room it has two of the pole showers. Each pole has either 4 or 5 showers heads on it.

 

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Recently there was a discussion on the YMNA2,(Young Men's Nudist Association) Yahoo group. It started when an old advertisement for Bradley Showers was shared (see photo above). Actually, the changes in acceptance (or tolerance) for nudity between men in places where it was formerly both accepted, required and even encouraged has caused there to be a lot of similar discussion in men's circles for many years now. One such example, a lengthy one, on a straight men's discussion board can be found at: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=294839&page=0
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Here is the discussion over the past few days:





atitlan wrote: My thanks to the blogger who found this. I can't believe that the artwork for the advert wasn't done by someone with a wicked sense of humour - "pull and turn", the equipment says.

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Pete added: Judging by the expression on their faces I would guess they've all pulled and didn't have far to 'turn'!
Can only have been done by someone with a great sense of humour or completely naive.
Aussie Kevin replied: I LOVE the eye-line on the guy on the left!


Actually, this is really heart-warming...and sadly something that most young guys would avoid, in Australia and the States anyway. Showering together, enjoying it openly, just being free and open and natural with buddies! it actually has a really nice energy to it. From days gone by though, sadly.