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[FONT=&quot]Someone asked me about wearing a sarong. It's easier just to give you the link below on how to tie a sarong (there is a list of instructions at the both of the page).

http://www.1worldsarongs.com/sartiesusetc.html

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It sounds like a fun party you'll be attending - great idea too for the sarongs -- I'll go out clubbing on Dec 31 in Waikiki, then spend part of Jan 1 nude on Diamond Head Beach or at Sandy Beach (East Oahu) out passed Hawaii Kai. I'll be sure to wear mine or my Japanese yukata.

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Yeah, I love wearing my sarongs -- I have several one of which is a mesh-like, see-thru material. Here are some pics of me wearing it and not quite wearing it . They always give you an excellent 'innocent' opportunity to flash dick or buns.

I am standing on Red Road just 500 ft from Kehena Black Sands beach (nude beach). That's where I'll be on Christmas Day until New Year's Eve. I am nude on the beach and wear my mesh sarong walking back to the camping place (Kalani) -- can't wait. Before that I'm going to go hiking nude in the southern California. (between San Diego and Palm Springs).

< -- Photo on the left is one of this blog's author.
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From: leo chat Leo wrote:

Hey stud, do I ever envy you. I have some great memories my nude freedom from days gone ,especially at 16, but none like yours. It really is inspiring. I used to love the sun burning my skin, and the feel of a slight breeze on my balls and nipples. Damn, I wish I were there.

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But I can't believe my luck; you're in the islands?!!!

I have been invited to a New Year's eve party, and the host has insisted all us guys wear a sarong or pareo, and nothing else. No problem freeballing it, but don't have a clue as to how to put on a sarong. Can you give me any tips, or instructions? Would be very greatful. I have this image in my head, I'm in the buffet line, plate of food in one hand, glass of wine in the other, and suddenly a sarong down around my ankles.


Yeah, have checked out other freeballing sites, they are ok but this one seems really insightful and helpful too.

Please let me hear from you again sometime, not just for dressing lessons, but would enjoy tales from being bare-over-there....Leo

 

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If I just chained my hands behind my back, I could bend over or

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kneel down and keep myself covered, and of course, that would not do. I wanted to be fully exposed when the scouts came by. So I decided I would chain myself to another tree. I also figured out that if I just wrapped my arms around the tree, only my bare bottom would be exposed. So I figured out that if I got on my hands and knees, backed up to the tree and fastened my ankles

together around the tree, then leaned back and chained my wrists behind me and around the tree, I would be a kneeling position and fully exposed , with no hope of covering any part of me. So I backed up to the tree.​

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I also noticed that a couple of them were getting woodies, seeing me naked and chained like that. And being the only one there that was naked and chained to a tree with a bunch of older boys staring at me was getting me excited too, and my dick started to get hard too. They finally got me loose, and when I started to stand up I kinda stumbled from being chained up like that for so long, and 2 of them grabbed my arms to help hold me up.
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Wow! Two older guys, fully clothed and me naked, holding me up. (one of them had his hand on my bottom) With 12 other guys looking at me. By this time I had a full hard on. Just couldn't help it. I was so excited. The best was yet to come. Nobody offered to get my clothes out of the tree, so that meant I was going to have to climb the tree, totally naked, with all 14 boys watching me. I walked over to the tree, and turned around so that I was facing them. I jumped up and tried to grab the lowest limb, but I couldn't reach it. After trying a couple times, with my dick flopping up and down with each try, two of them came over and held their hands cupped together so I could stand on them and they could boost me up and grab the limb.

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I got a hold of it and hung there, fully stretched out soeverything was showing. Then I lifted my legs and hooked them over the limb, kinda spread out so that my asshole was in full view. I think I even tried to pucker it a little. After hanging like that a bit, I swung up and started climbing, making sure I stopped a little every time I was fully stretched out or spread out. I also had to scoot along some of the limbs, dragging my balls and bottom along the rough bark. I sure couldn't get dressed up in the tree, so as I reached each article of clothing, I dropped them on the ground.

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When everything was on the ground, (I was at the highest point

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in the tree), I started to (slowly) work my way down, again stopping every so often and spreading my legs. I finally got down to the last limb and swung down, again holding on and hanging there as long as I could. When I dropped down, I "stumbled" and fell over backwards with my legs going up over my head. Then I got up and started getting dressed. And not one of them took his eyes off me until I finally pulled up my pants.

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I progressed to riding my bike home like that, especially in the early evening. Sometimes, just as it was getting dark and just as a car was passing me, I would stand up, baring my butt just as the car passed me. That, too, soon got to be old stuff. Then I got the idea that it would be really neat if someone would see me totally naked. I guess that is when I progressed from being a little nudist to a full fledged exhibitionist. I would go near the end of the woods near the highway, take off all my clothes and walk along a path, jumping into the bushes if I though I heard someone coming. (Never saw anyone, tho). Then I would turn back, go right to the edge of the trees and when I saw a

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of cars coming, I would run across the clearing, stark naked, until I was sure they saw me, then back in to the woods, get my clothes, get dressed, and go home.​

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One day I saw a school bus with a bunch of kids going to camp or something, and when I was in the middle of the clearing, totally naked, I heard them shouting and laughing, and I knew a whole bus load of kids had seen me naked. I was so excited I could hardly sleep that night.That' s when it really started to get interesting. And I evolved into the "liking to be laughed at and humiliated" state of my life.

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There was a Boy Scout Camp in the forest preserve, pretty far back in. One day, I was riding my bike along a path, (completely dressed for a change), when I ran into, (almost literally), a group of them hiking along the path. They were all a little older than me. An idea began forming in the back of my head. I went back the next day, and sure enough, the scouts came along at almost the same time. I scouted (no pun intended), along the path and found a clearing that had a bunch of tall trees, some with low hanging branches, about 6 feet off the ground. I went back the next day, almost 2 hours earlier.

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I had a 2 "choker" dog collars that were chains with rings at either end. You would slip the chain through one of the rings and form a loop that was supposed to go over the dog's head, and when he pulled on the leash too much, the chain would kinda choke him, making him slack off. Well, if you put on hand through the loop and then made another loop at the other end and put your other hand through, your hands were pretty effectively "chained" together. If you had the right size chain, it could be really difficult to get it off, especially if your hands were chained behind your back.

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Anyhow, I got to the clearing and found a tree that had branches low enough that I could jump up, grab it and start climbing. I took all my clothes off. I put my socks in my shoes and tied them together, and threw them up into the tree. They caught on a branch about 12 feet up. I tied my jeans in a knot and wrapped them around a rock and then threw them as high as I could. They caught on a branch almost 20 feet up. Then I did the same with my T shirt. It wound up just above my shoes.

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My underpants were next. I wrapped them around a rock and threw them as high as I could. They caught on a branch just above my jeans.? I was now totally naked with all my clothes up in a tree. ?? I had given a lot of thought as to how I would chain myself, so as to give myself maximum "exposure".

 

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A certain kind of CMNM experience

This experience was originally posted by Bill Williams to another group. It was subsequently distributed on the Thorngay Yahoo group mailiing list on January 27, 2008. It represents one boy's sexual development (into manhood) that is heavily centered about being exposed to other males, particularly in situations of helplessness (an important sub-theme for some CMNM enthusiasts NOTE: the photos were added (by this author: sunbunz - since Bill did not (and could NOT (LOL) provide his own).
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[From thorngay Y! Group]

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I first realized I was an exhibitionist at a very early age, even tho I did not know what the word meant. I started out running out the back door and around a tree in the back yard in just my underpants.











I don't know if it was the exhibitionist in me coming out, or if it just felt good running around like that, or just because it was "naughty". ?? Of course, I progressed to doing the same thing completely naked, and I really liked doing that; something more daring?

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I would sneak into my sister's room once in awhile, when nobody was home, and would put on some of her underpants and walk around the house that way. I even swiped a diaper off the neighbor's clothesline and would put that on, sometimes walking outside wearing just the diaper. Pretty soon tho, that became "old stuff", and I wanted to do something else, something more daring!



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There was a forest preserve about a mile from my house, that had a river running through it. During the day, there was hardly anyone in the park, just 1 or 2 people fishing sometimes. I would ride over there, go behind some bushes and take off my pants and underpants, and ride along the path wearing just a long T shirt. That was really neat, especially when I would meet someone on the path and have to really be careful not to stand up and show that I didn't have anything on under my T shirt. I had some really close calls, but that just made it more fun.

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Maui (Island)


“Little Beach” at Makena
http://mauiguidebook.com/beaches/makena-little-beach/


About one mile south of the Maui Prince Hotel in Makena, turn right at the second paved road to the parking lot. Walk to the beach, turn right, and hike over the promontory at the end to "Little Beach." The far end is the gayest. Nude sunbathing is the custom (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations). View State Beach info.


Little Beach at Makena State Beach is definitely a mixed beach - there are clothed and unclothed, families, tourists, locals, groups of friends and gay couples and single men.

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There is no restroom at Little Beach -- so it's into the woods or hike back to the Big Beach, where the is a restroom, picnic tables, and lifeguards.
Behind the Little Beach is a wooded hillside, so there are many places to get some shade, but no other amenities.




MORE complete description of the Big Island beaches BELOW:

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Kehena Black Sands Beach
There are several of 'nude' beaches around the Big Island - the largest and most 'official' (being that the nudity there is just accepted by the local authorities/police/community is the Kehena Black Sands Beach at milemarker 19 on Hwy 137 (Kalapana-Kapoho Road (Puna's coastal road).
It's crowded on Sundays - with all kinds of people -families, hippies, locals, gays, tourist, etc..- many engaged in 'trance dance' but a lot of people are picniking, partying, and just having fun. On quiet days and times, there is sometimes cruising in the far left area of the beach.


Kalani (see info at Kalani.com is a gay-friendly resort not far from Kehena - it has a clothing optional pool (after 4pm).


There are other places where people get naked / nude swimming/sunbathing:


Honokohau (on US National park property at Kaloko-Honokohau National Reserve:
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Take Highway 19 north from Kailua-Kona. Turn left between (4-5 miles out of town) Mile Markers #97 and 98. Take the first right and then park in the north lot of Honokohau Harbor and Marina, and then walk on into the K-HNP (reserve) and take the trail to this beach, past Ai'opio Beach. Although nudity is prohibited - it's still pretty common for gay to men to discreetly disrobe (get naked and cruise) in the area to the far right. Park rangers do patrol - but not that frequently (or maybe I've just been lucky).

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Beach 67 (sometimes mistakenly called Beach 69)
Another 'unofficial' nude beach can be found in South Kohala (past Waikoloa) about 30 miles north of Kona (often times one of the sunniest places on the Big Island) and between Puako and Hapuna State Beach Park and not too far from the junction on Hwy 19 that lead to Kawaiihae (left) and Waimea (right). It's called Beach 67 (although you'll probably here more about Beach 69 (also known as Wailea or Waialea Beach). Wailea is certainly a beautiful tree-lined stretch of beach(es) in and among a sheltered cove (partly bordered by private property). But Beach 67 (telephone pole number - NOT milemaker) is located further north and is a much small beach where clothing optional is enjoyed by all.


To reach it follow the sign to turn off of Hwy 19 toward Hapuna State Beach Park (A large parking lot with additional parking above - there are hundreds of cars)
Go passed the Hapuna entrance and continue along the rough road about 600 feet further, you see a dirt road leading up to a ridge that overlooks the north end of Wailea. Park where the other cars (there won't be too many) and head downhill, coming through the trees to the small beach where nudity is accepted (if not encouraged. BTW, Wailea Beach (Beach 69) is the about 300 ft further passed Beach 67 - there is a longer driveway up the the entrance - usually there are a lot of cars. Note: you can also come in from the Puako side, existing Hwy 19 at Puako, and then making a right on the beach access road (mostly unpaved). So you first reach Wailea Beach (Beach 69) and then come to telephone pole 67 next - in the middle of the next rise (the entrance looks more like a dirt bike track).


Hope you enjoy getting some 'sun' on your buns on your trip to Hawaii.

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Aloha!


Kelly

 

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Gay Cruising Spots


See the local gay magazines for other "ideas" if you're trying to cruise... (links below)


Here is a link to the latest issues of the local gay guides magazines, Odyssey and DaKine.
http://www.hawaiiscene.com/odyssey/
Odyssey can be viewed online or you can also download the pages or entire issue.
http://www.dakinemagazine.com/
(NOTE: DaKine is a download-only PDF of the entire magazine)... so if you want to download this large file, click here to go to its home page: DaKine


Diamond Head Beach (under the Light House)
See the description above


Old Natatorium (Waikiki Beach, just beyond the Aquarium)
The old swimming meet stadium (or Natatorium) is no longer used, except as a dressing rooms, and restrooms, showers for men and women (separate). The men's toilet and showers can get cruisy from time to time - although there are many locals (especially homeless individuals) who use it to get cleaned up (cold showers).

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Kapiolani Park (across from the Aquarium, mauka side)
It's rare to find but does exist. Sometimes guys, particularly tourists, cruise among the trees at night in the park. Be careful of police surveillance.
Max's Gym - ALERT: The baths (gay sauna) part of Max's Gym has been closed since 2016.


Max's Gym is located on the 4F of 444 Hobron Lane, approximately two blocks off of Ala Moana Blvd. Turn left (heading into Waikiki) onto Hobron Street (McD's and ABC Store are on the corner). This is the first left after you cross the Ala Wai Canal bridge (marina is on the right side of this bridge) - just one block for the Waikiki end of Ala Moana Center. Go down Hobron Street two short blocks, and the building with Max's is just to your left as your turn right. NOTE* The gym has two sections (not connected) - one is the gym and the other is the sauna/private rooms part. That's where guys got to cruise. WARNING: They are very strict about bringing in alcohol, etc, therefore, NO BAGS of any kind are allowed. You should leave anything that does not fit in your pockets back at the hotel or at home. They refuse entry to backpacks, shoulder bags, and hip pouches. (August 2007)

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Other spots


I love the west side of Oahu - the leeward coast -- I get nude there -- although I am not flashing or exposing myself (normally). There is a place(s) on the North Shore of Oahu too, but I've never been there to those so-called 'nude' beaches.


I can also recommend the Big Island, Maui, and Kauai, which do have some great gay beaches -- but you can find more at the site below or check out names such Little Beach at Makena State Park (Maui), Honokohau Beach, and Kehena Black Sands beach (both on Hawaii, The Big Island) just by googling them along with nude or gay as keywords.




Here is a link to the latest issues of the local gay guides magazines, Odyssey and DaKine.
http://www.hawaiiscene.com/odyssey/
Odyssey can be viewed online or you can also download the pages or entire issue.
http://www.dakinemagazine.com/
(NOTE: DaKine is a download-only PDF of the entire magazine)... so if you want to download this large file, click here to go to its home page: DaKine

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In Odyssey, look at the ON OAHU section or the BEYOND OAHU section to see what to do and where to go -- not an extensive listing since this is paid for advertising but a start.

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Gay beaches in the Hawaii islands (brief version and longer versions) see both below


Hawaii - The Big Island

Honokohau-Kaloko National Park
see more information below in a longer description or elsewhere in this blog


Take Highway 19 north from Kailua-Kona. Turn left between (4-5 miles out of town) Mile Markers #97 and 98. Take the first right and then park in the north lot of Honokohau Harbor and Marina, and then walk on into the K-HNP (reserve) and take the trail to this beach, past Ai'opio Beach. Although nudity is prohibited - it's still pretty common for gay to men to discreetly disrobe (get naked and cruise) in the area to the far right. Park rangers do patrol - but not that frequently (or maybe I've just been lucky).

Diving nude on the Big Island and other posts.
http://sunbuns.blogspot.com/2006/11/diving-nude-on-big-island.html

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Kehena Beach - Located in Puna on Hwy 137 at mile maker 19 in the southeastern part of the Big Island


Fine black sand distinguishes this small secluded beach on the Puna coast. It is one of the most popular beaches on The Big Island, mainly because it is 'unofficially' only one of two real nude beaches on the Big Island (the other being Beach 67 at Waialea described just below.)
On Hwy. #137, one mile from Kalani Eco-Resort at the Mile Marker 19 phone booth. Wear sturdy sneakers for lava rock trail to beach. Nude sunbathing (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations). Caution: strong currents and undertow.

 

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Waialea Bay “Beach 67” (sometimes mistakenly referred to as 'Beach 69') In the northwestern part of the Big Island


Wailea Bay Marine Preserve's two beaches are nicknamed 69 and 67. Beach 69 is the larger and is great for snorkeling and diving. Beach 67, on the north side of the bay, is smaller and frequented by naturists and gay men. On Hwy. #19 at Mile Marker 71, turn into Puako Village, then right onto old Puako Road. Access Beach 67 by taking the gravel road at telephone pole #67, onward to the bluff, then hiking down to the beach. Nude sunbathing (unless authorities decide to enforce anti-nudity regulations).

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Further out from Honolulu toward East Oahu


If you want a lot of privacy and have much more free time, then you could take a drive out H1 East -- passed Hawaii Kai area and passed Hanauma Bay (which is not cruisy at all - but a wonderful short trip -- you can rent snorkeling gear (closes at 4:30pm). After Hanauma Bay -- there is the blow-hole and look-out points where you can sometimes catch glimpses of humpback whales (from the shore). Continuing on passed Sandy Beach,(smooth and with big green fields) you'll come to a rather deserted rough beach -- at the far eastern end -- guys sometimes go nude because there are lots of bushes, low rises and make-shift rock shelters to hide your butt and balls --except from those who are eager to find. Still, it can be very hot -- no water and rather isolated -- so don't stay there after dark -- sometimes car doors are pried open while guys are out "sunning" themselves.

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WARNING: Nowadays, the thieves don't both to pry open the locks, they just take a big rock and smash the driver's side window in order to get in. DO NOT LEAVE anything --- visible or not, the risk of vandalism remains high.


I hate to sound so CAUTIOUS but people who live locally can read the signs and know what to expect, but I don't want to give you (perhaps a tourist for the first time) a lot of over-confidence. If you live in NYC, you should already have street smarts -- but they are different in every place -- and Oahu has its own street culture -- that's for sure. Fortunately, it's pretty laid back and relaxed. Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the US -- although the property crime ranks at one of the highest -- especially automobile theft and (break-in) robbery.


Further out from Honolulu toward West Oahu (toward Makaha)


Most tourists don't even bother to drive out to this part of the island because the road (Farrington Hwy eventually stop out by Makua Valley a few miles passed Makaha) Civilizations stop too - it's pretty wild country. There are some great views along the way and also some totally deserted expanses of sandy beaches bordered by rocky coast line -- but no cliffs, so it's easy to get down to the water. I've bicycled out there (I used to stay in a vacation condo in Makaha a lot) along the highway and found many spots to sunbathe in the nude privately.
Local fisherman and some a few tourists might come up on you - but if you have a towel handy to cover up it's no problem.

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NOTE* BIG PROBLEM TO AVOID (automobile robbery - breaking/entering thefts)-- Robbery of vehicles is a BIG problem here. So.. take everything out of the car and open the windows. If the would-be robbers (who usually drive up in a car with darkly tinted windows, see that you have nothing worth taking and you don't even lock the car, then they figure there is nothing worth smashing the windows to try to get.
( Keep you bicycle/motorcycle in plain sight, too)


Yes, it's kind of scary - but it is STILL worth going out there by all means - if you take simple precautions.


If you go to Yokohama Beach -- just a bit after Makua Valley Military Practice Firing Range, you see a public parking lot and because there are military guards on duty (sometimes), there is less possibililty of a car robbery if you park there. From that point, you can walk / hike further north out to Kaena Point (described below).


Kaena Point: In fact, at the far northwestern tip of Oahu is an amazing natural park. Kaena Point is a federal (or state?) nature preserve on the tip of the islands perhaps thousand of acres in size. It's amazing because here you can co-mingle with nesting albatross, a species native to Hawaii, or watch them flying over head, there are sea turtles cavorting in the rough waves, and sometimes you can get close to Hawaiian monk seals sunbathing on the long sandy beaches.
Be sure to take plenty of drinking water and sunscreen -- there are hardly any places to find shade and it takes about 30 minutes to reach the park and another 30-60 to walk around (or reach the North Shore exit on the far side).

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I've gone nude hiking there myself because it is pretty deserted (however, not completely - because you'll encounter one or two other people with 'nature on their minds'. There are even some old bunkers (probably left over from WWII days or prior to that) for 'shelter' from wind (not from the sun bearing down). The Waianae Mountain Range which you followed all along the western (leeward) coast of Oahu slopes down to a small hillside by the time it reaches this western-most point of the island.

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No cars can get through to Kaena Point - but it's possible to take a bicycle through it and then head back east and reach the North Shore (on foot)-- the sand / terrain makes riding any thing but a mountain bike difficult until you reach pavement. I have been there in a few years so I can say what the conditions are on the trails coming from the Makua Valley side. You should check or ask local or local Internet sites before you go. Likehike is a gay-friendly hiking club that meets regularly for hiking excursions to many places on the island - they should be able to provide you with up-to-date information on trails to and from Kaena Point. Of course, this mainly gay outdoor recreation group are a bunch of nature enthusiasts so they aren't particularly intersted in nudism or nude hiking (but I'm sure there are individuals members who can give good advice and information about that once you join one of their outings/hiking - mainly scheduled on the Saturdays.


P.S. I believe it is possible to follow the Waianae Mountains ridges to reach Kaena Point - but I have never done so myself.
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How to get there..
From the east end of Waikiki, you can drive there or it is even possible to walk (20-30 minute walk across and down along Kapiolani Park) to its eastern end and then walk up about 700 yards to the drive way that goes down to Light House Beach. You can't miss Diamond Head crater's peak looming overhead -- which can be seen from anywhere in Honolulu. If you drive, then you can follow Kalakaua east to the Zoo and then continue due east along Kapiolani Park to its end and then turn right on Diamond Head road. There is a small road down the beach -- but there is limited parking there (don't leave a car at most Diamond Head Road street parking after 10pm or as posted!!)


If driving, it is easier sometimes to go on passed the light house and then look for parking up at the look-out point(s) along Diamond Head Road (regular unmetered parking) or for roadside parking on the mountain side of Diamond Head Road. As any place in Honolulu - don't leave valuables in your car and don't park where people can easily sneak up and open your car -- car break-ins in Honolulu are among the highest rates in the entire country -- more than New York City, by far. So you'd best take precautions.

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If you're really worried about break-ins, then drive your rental car, but park instead at Kapiolani Park, or take a bus (#14) or a taxi and then walk back from the nearest bus stop to beach, or just walk all the way from Waikiki and back - which is what I usually do., besides, it's good exercise too. The walk through Kapiolani Park either way is beautiful. On the beach side parallel with the Park and eventually leading to Waikiki proper just across from the Zoo (at the interection of Kalakaua and Kapahulu) is the extension of Waikiki Beach. There you'll find Queen's Surf Beach between the Honolulu Zoo and the Waikiki Aquarium, where a lot of gays hang out - but there in NO NUDITY absolutely at such a public place.


Just as a extra side-trip, I often stop in at the men's restroom and changing room with open stall showers at the old Natatorium (outdoor competitive swimming pool - which has now fallen in decay from lack of use). It's open from early (6:00am ) to dusk so you can sometimes catch (cute) guys changing and showering before or after their romps in the ocean for swimming and surfing. I always like to get naked when I shower, and enjoy it even more when another guy or guys does the same.

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Being Discreet and Avoiding Trouble
You should know that public (beach) nudity is illegal in Hawaii (as in most US States) -- this is posted at most beaches -- and there has evidently been more police patrolling of Light House beach. But I myself have never seen a police officer on the beach -- although the stories / rumors keep going around. My advice is don't be blatant -- it is a public beach with families and tourists -- who don't expect to see a nude guy especially one with a hard-on or engaged in sexual activity. They are probably the ones who call the police (if they ever do come down to look for "sex perverts".) I prefer to stay up above the beach -- (but not TOO high) or the tourist at the look-out point above can see you -- and have towel/swimsuit to cover up if somebody obviously NOT gay comes snooping around.


Nonetheless, I've had some good "looks" and quite a lot of sex in the bushes and in the coves/nooks, especially around dusk. If you aren't interested in the cruising part, then you can just enjoy the sun and see what other guys do. They can't arrest you for thongs or skimpy bikinis in any case.

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Mokuleia (near Polo Field) on the North Shore (Oahu)
(part of a discussion Yahoo! Group Hawaii Nudist -- it is not very active, but there was information about a North Shore 'nudist' beach - Mokuleia.)


Since there are no legal nude beaches on Oahu or its too far to go there, some guys do lie out on the north shore near the Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Others lie out at Diamond head below the lighthouse right outside Waikiki. (by Honolulust)


The beach on the North Shore (Polo Fields) is much nicer than the Diamond Head lighthouse beach. The water is clearer, cleaner and much more secluded. At the end of the public access trail, go to the right for the gay nude area. As you walk you will see a bushy wooded area.
That's the gay area. You can situate yourself on the beach or in the little areas in the bushes. I 've had some very hot sessions on that beach!
(by Musl2Pound)


I'm still not sure where that beach is - Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Is in off of Crozier Dr. (the street closest to the shore) or is it further west out Farrington Hwy? If you don't have a car (a tourist
or visitor) would you be out of luck? I mean is it worth take a bus to Waialua and then walking?
(These question are from sunbuns99 - p.s. Nobody ever answered my questions so I still don't know much about Mokuleia (May 2008). You can find the place and the polo fields on Google maps.)

 

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Hawaii Nudism and possible cruising in Hawaii
- REPUBLISHED May 28, 2008, revised October 2008, Revised Sept 2012, Updated Sept. 2017

(Note: Some info may not be accurate since conditions change - such is the nature of nudism across the world - the weather and erosion, changes in attitudes of the local community and prohibition or surveillance by law enforcement or public park authorities may cause significant changes to the 'facts' listed in the article below).

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Sorry for the canned and somewhat disorganized article below but I frequently get requests about the topic of Hawaii and what 'gay' things there are, so I have this standard blog entry and have just kept adding more to it over the years. It's time now again for update on the information.


If you have more specific questions later, I'll try to answer them. But for now, I hope this general introduction to Hawaii nude beaches and gay spots there will help.


The first part is mainly about Oahu. There is aksi specific information about The Big Island, Hawaii, and Maui at the end of this article.


Nudity and Nude Beach in Hawaii

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Nude beaches, heh? Do they exist in the Hawaii islands?


Yes, but proceed with some caution because except for a couple of places (not on Oahu), nude sunbathing is considered illegal (except for a couple of long-time (and which has tacit permission for the law enforcement officers).


Warning: Nudity on public beaches is illegal. Do not do so without taking adequate precautions to be discreet. However, there are a few places where it is tolerated (or at least overlooked) by the authorities. However, most of these are NOT located on Oahu. Nevertheless, nude sunbathing does happen on Oahu (the main island, where Honolulu and its famous, Waikiki Beach is located).


Queen's Surf -- NOW NO LONGER A GAY MEETING PLACE
There used to be a section of Waikiki Beach called Queen's Surf -- where you guessed it - the queens gathered. But sadly it is longer active as a gay men's meeting point (for sunbathing (clothed, of course), picnicking, and just talking. No, it is no called Queen's Surf because it was frequented by drag queens (LOL), but gay men used to gather there to socialize. It's still there as a public beach, and a few gay men do congregate there, but nothing like the masses of gay men who used to frequent this public beach. It's found just passed the Honolulo Zoo and is located just two hundred yards from the Waikiki Aquarium. You can find it just passed the snack shop/restroom. However, there is absolutely no nudity on this very public part of the beach. Many people don't even notice and you're likely to have families or tourist/visitors sitting near or even among the 'guys' on the grass lawn just across the beach side sidewalk. NOW (as of 2015 and later), NO LONGER A GAY MEETING PLACE.

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Diamond Head Beach (Lighthouse Beach)
For nudism, the closest place to Waikiki where you can go to a gay and sometimes discreetly nude beach on Oahu is at Diamond Head Beach (below the Light House). It can be cruisy, but you need to be aware that it is part of a public beach and not everybody walking down along the shore is a guy looking for gay sex. Tourists, people walking their pets, and families sometimes walk thru and even stop to enjoy the beach too. However, it does get cruisy at times -- sometimes best when the sun has started to set or after sunset. Just be discreet and cover up if somebody who looks like a cop comes thru. I have never seen a police office or been stopped myself, but I've "heard" that arrests have been made for public indecency. I have received a parking ticket - so don't park where it is prohibited or after posted hours. There are places to "hide", ledges to sunbathe nude without being seen from below and I've had some wild times there both in broad daylight and after dusk, especially on the forested hillside just above this beach.

 

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I was once in a foot massage course in my country where the weather was hot and there was no air-conditioning system. It's just the electric fan at that place. There were about 30 chairs with foot stools in that room. Each student (or

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participants) must swap with their buddy to practice the massage. Then there was one western male wearing t-shirt and shorts with no underwear, and he was alone. So he had to be paired with another local fat woman. He might be happy to flash, I think.




That woman reacted nothing to him but turned to all people around her and talked in local language telling people that how ugly that he's not wearing any underpants and she cursed a lot. Then she just concentrated on her buddy's foot and tried not to look up. She talked to people around her about him all the time. When she talked to him in English, she just looked at his face and speak with a normal voice tone. That happened all day long. She didn't even ask for changing the buddy or reported him.

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Everybody looked at his crotch from time to time and said nothing, just talked to that woman as usual. It's just the next day when he didn't join the practicing class, that people giggled and laughed and talked about what happened the day before. Meantime, that western guy might think that no one noticed his flash, because people still chatted as usual in their local language, not being noticed even by his massage buddy who never looked up throuth his pants.

Going out of the house shirtless, in Asia, is fine if you look "down to earth" & walk around your house (i.e. to buy something) or after jogging. If you look "posh" or "well groom" or even "look good", it will look totally weird & look a bit that you walk shirtless "on purpose" or "on display" (eventhough you walk around your house or go jogging).

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So, don't expect people to be scream or freak out or laugh if you flash them in Asia, and meantime don't expect people to be silent when you flash them in Europe. By the way, the perception of people you flash would be the same, it's only the reactions that different.
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Toras adds:I really disagree with this discussion of nudity in "Asia", treating as if it is a homogenous unit. That's dozens of countries with diverse cultures, you CANNOT lump all of them together as one. Even in the same country, you would get different responses in the city and suburbs. For example, in Japan, I have heard that their attitude is "I don't see it" if someone appears naked in public. In Hong Kong (where I'm from), you *might* be able to get away in a rural area, where farmers would ignore you, but in the city the cops will definitely be called. BTW, a typical response of a Chinese girl when faced with a naked man is to cover her eyes and perhaps scream.

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What I'm saying also is that some people might not even notice because they aren't really looking to see anything at al - they are just occupied with living and doing what it takes to get through life. They can't believe their eyes so they just don' t believe.
Someone one said - "Never underestimate the power of perception" I would add - "never underestimate the power of people to mis-perceive anything."

My own limited experience tells me that -- in the Asian country where I live now (obviously somewhat different from your country)-- when I go out in mesh see-thru shorts or actually almost any kind of pants for that matter, I almost get nobody (male or female) watching my crotch and looking at me in a way that shows "what's he wearing now?" "Oh my god, I can see thru his pants." Or "I wonder what color his underwear is?"

However, if I did that back in the US or Europe, I couldn't get 20 meters down the road before somebody would notice, some would smile or laugh, and a few might freak out and then have the cops on me before I even realized that they'd seen me.

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I don't think this is totally my imagination or misconception of Asian societies. I admit that are NOT the same - each is unique so it's tough to make any big generlizations. Maybe it just seems true because I, myself, am not an Asian man - maybe nobody here (in the country I live now) wants to 'see' me at all - not matter what I am or am not wearing.

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How do you explain that you haven't been caught by the police?
Or are the ones who see you just happy to find such an extraordinary thing that they just smile and go on?
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1. I have to find places that have people not much in there and I will plan with my friend how I act,how I do in a short time.
2. Yes.The ones are often teenagers.They don't interest in catching me and bring to the police.They like to see me naked.

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Well, sunbuns, I'm Asian and travel to Europe quite often. I'd like to say that the perceptions of people (westerner & asian) may be similar (of course, they'll shock), but the reactions of them are different. The westerners seems to react straight away (i.e. screaming, freak out, laugh, take a second look or stare at you and say "oh my god...") when they see you naked on street, but asians would be silent & say nothing. People may stop what they're doing for a millisecond

(i.e. stop walking or chatting with friends) as they're shocked but then will continue for what they're doing. They'll giggle or call a cop later, after you walk pass them. Therefore, it's not because they don't see you. I read one thread (from "experience forum" about a guy who flashed; jerked off in front of a lady with big boobs on a train at night. That lady grabbed a camera and took his photo. She might think that she's got the right (human right) to do so. I can say that such reaction (from the lady who was flashed) will not happen in Asia. The most she would do is to walk away silently and run (or inform the officer) because normal people would think that she could be raped or killed in that situation.​

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In the situation that you're middle age westerner living in Asia, it'll be another issue. If you wear a mesh or see-through pants and walk down the street, nobody would say anything. That's because they consider you as a white guy who has different culture (people would think "well, it might be normal in his culture"). Meantime, they definitely can see you but they would choose to say or react nothing, but they'll talk about it behind you and you'll lost respectation from people. They might think that you're nuts (hey...that crazy guy come again...). If you don't live & belong to that area, then it's fine. If you live or stay in that area for a long time and you go naked, people will react nothing in front of you but talk about it behind you. If you later i.e. go out to buy something at the grocery store nearby, they may say nothing but giggling behind you when you left the store. It's not because you're not noticeable.

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I was once in a foot massage course in my country where the weather was hot and there was no air-conditioning system. It's just the electric fan at that place. There were about 30 chairs with foot stools in that room. Each student

 

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Comment from Sunbuns about explaining why Davincith blatant exhibitions seems to go unnoticed (or not)
Having lived in an Asian country (off and on for a long time), I can both appreciate what makes his doing this both possible and almost compulsive for him.

See my recent post: One reason that he can 'get away' with it is that actually nobody can SEE him - I don't mean their eyes cannot take in the image - but their minds just don't register it as nudity or they can perceive the erect cock at being that.
Westerners (esp US society) is so hung up on anti-nudity / anti-sexual prohibition of the US-brand of convservative religious ethic/edict that almost everyone (in the US) is sensitized to 'showing skin'. If somebody saw Davincith's upper torso (naked chest or back) they might assume he' naked down below and they would look to try to confirm that.

http://www.dickflash.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=108673#108673


In Asia (well certain countries anyway and surely not only in Asia either) showing naked flesh is no real cause for concern, alarm nor does it pique people's basic interest to "look to see more" like it would in the US. Most people (normal Asian society) cannot be bothered to waste their time getting scintillated by looking at a stranger's body or they would just be ignoring most external stimuli in the first place.

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If they're riding the bus, it's because they've got some place to go and something they need to do or a job to get to / from and they're just engaged in doing that - getting from one place to another. Most people are reading, talking to a friend or family member, writing text messages or listening to music (or playing games) with their handheld or mobile device so trying to catch the odd and unimaginable 'naked' person in some chance encounter is so incongruous that they MIGHT NOT even 'see' him he we standing up in broad daylight - facing the bus. They certainly would know how to react either - probably too embarrassed to even mention it to the passenger (strangers) near them. It would be a bit like calling 'wolf' for boy, Peter (or should I say calling "Peter' for the wolf.

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I've described the situation in a rather exaggerated way - but it's the basic principle. I'm also NOT trying to be stereotypical or discriminatory in my explanation (my theory) but it's a plausible and even likely reason why Davincith can get away with this kind of exhibitionist behavior.The problem for me is (where I am feeling the urge to flash) is that I am a white (caucasian) middle-aged man so I might just attract those very eyes that normally don't even see Davincith in his naked glory.

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By the way, I love his antics but I'm not here to burst the bubble but it's not as impossibly daring as it might seem on first inspection.


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Response from Davincith Thanks for your opinion. I don't mind your opinion that make my daredevilry in this collection to undestimate in another people's sight.Some part of your opinion is right but another part are wrong. I will make it clearly.In my country (Asia). People are quite anti-nudity more than Western People -- particularly the old people.They are not just look to confirm nudity but they try to catch and bring to the police. I don't want not only people on the bus see but also motorcyclist that can stop to look me that is exciting point for me.
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I agree if people do see you, they'll want to catch you and string you up and hang you right then and there. It's totally amazing then that you can get away with it. Because it IS so amazing that it can happen, I am just trying to explain (to some part) why it might pass off AS IF unnoticed.

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However, in many ways, male nudity permeates almost all aspects of male-to-male relationships and influences the nature of masculinity and what it means to be a man. Men use nudity and exposure of body parts or genitals to communicate affection, friendship, camaraderie, power /control, and even distain or disgust. Being aware CMNM scenes and being turned on by them is subconscious for most males. We're just a select few who have recognized it as a separate way of psycho-sexual interaction and, for some personal or social stimulation. Once you think more deeply about it, you'll be able recognize and see its effects in buddy-to-buddy friendships, sports and athletic camaraderie, male-bonding and growing up, rites of passages for young males, social events, public and private clubs and social organizations, schooling, and especially in the past - even the constant girl-chasing pack mentality of romance, male lust (and sex) and the antics and rituals associated with those. More recent acceptance of gays in society has meant that 'guy-chasing' and the behaviors around that once secretive activity are becoming more known. So CMNM (like CFNM - "clothed female-naked male") is becoming a recognized category of human sexual activity.
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This blog is devoted to experiences, stories, advice, discussions (at least to save them from being deleted or disappearing), information, links to other Net resources, and (maybe) visual media for guys who are into (n2) CMNM - clothed male-naked male scenes. Not everyone who is interested in or turned on by the CMNM scene is gay, bi, or curious.

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CMNM is not simply a homosexual form of behavior. Actually, there are plenty of straight guys, who consciously or even subconsciously get some satisfaction from being naked or clothed with other naked men. Maybe they are just horny or starved for affection. There are also women who are turned on or intrigued by reality of a man being naked in front of clothed men and/or clothed women (or the reverse). Whether this nakedness is natural, socially acceptable, expected, forced on them, or totally exhibitionist, it generally involves either sexual arousal for the naked guy or the clothed guy(s) watching or for both. Such is the magic of this complicated scene - CMNM.

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It's really a sexual preference lifestyle issue, but some would call it a sexual fetish or perversion.

 

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Final suggestion, next time try a hostel - you're in a room all the time with men - so you can be as naked as much as you can get away with it-- the bath/shower is attached usually so you can freely go back and forth in the nude to your own ..

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Nowadays.. I'm sure that might be one reason that advertize these rooms as MIXED or COED - but - in truth - only a group of women would stay in a mixed group room - usually then the hotel clerk puts that group by itself. Also there are women only group rooms - so it's very like you'll only be put in a room with men.
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What I hate is when I am the ONLY person in the room. Sometimes if the hostel is not busy -they will put a lone 'wolf' - single older guys into one of the doubles/couples rooms (for the same price ) but sometimes I think it's just them taking a precaution - or out of respect for the noise that younger (under 26) supposedly make. Frankly I LIKE the noise they make - that's why I'm staying in the hostel (that and the opportunity to see and be seen naked). Still it is lucky to happen because most people are stranger than they are normal around strangers. LOL
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I'll let you know how my trip to one goes next week.


By the way, there are many chances to do get naked in public bath (baden ) and spas or hot springs. In Japan, there are onsen (hot springs resorts - where you can also get a day-pass just for the indoor and outdoors hot pools); there are even still pubic baths - sento - where you pay about $3-$4 to sit naked among or across from other men (sometimes young men and teens - but there are all ages), and wash and soap your body-- paying special attention to scrubbing your cock and balls. and then soak nude in the hot communal pool (after rinsing). It's a tradition that is rapidly dying out.

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Any ideas or experiences about a flashing at 8-person hostel room (it may be coed)? It's in Honolulu and I don't know the shower set-up -since shower stall or communal (I hope).

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[h=4]Experiencing CMNM flashing: Ideas for hotels and hostels[/h]These next series of posts might be interesting to someone who wants to be see naked by other guys - particularly by str8 or clothed men when you are in 'nude' situations. I don't consider this blatant or in-your-face exhibitionism - for me, it is a sort of sensous and partly innocent accident flashing or being seen naked (or purpose) where nudity might be expected. I find it even hotter and more

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sexually stimulating when the guys doing the looking are either supposedly straight or are themselves clothed. It's great when they take notice or when you can tell that they kind of like the experience (or the freedom and license) to get naked them. Many don't need to get permission and quite a few don't care or even notice, but you know never what will happen or how they might react - there are surprising results sometimes - and far from bad ones.

A few weeks ago a posted question came from somebody on another board:

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I had a conference in Honolulu and had planned to stay in a shared hotel room with a str8 buddy. As it turns out, my friend is not going to make it (his wife is coming along), so I made a reservation for a large (10 bed) dorm room in one of these hotels. It sounds like I might had more luck to choose the small dorm room (just 4 beds) since it might be more conducive to a break-out jo sessions. I know I'll be horny as hell and probably not get a wink of sleep - just hearing out guys breathing / turning over / adjust clothes / and the normal sounds of sleeping turns me on like crazy. I don't know what I'll do if one of them is audibly (or visibly) beating off. Still, I'd love to hear more.
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I'll be at a hostel next week Feb 15-18. It's more like budget hotel with shared rooms 4 to 8 people in either co-ed or female only room. However, it's actually rare to have a coed dorm room be that. single women at a hostel rarely stay in a dorm so they are most all male -- but some regular hotels and inns have larger rooms where guests/strangers who don't know each other share at least a WC/shower but also the bedroom (and lounge/ en suite facilities (kitchen / bathroom etc).


Here are my suggestions for the hotel you've chosen:
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( I think you only have a shared bath/toilet . But it really all depends on the actual place and how lucky (popular LOL) you are with the other guests).
Whether it's a true hostel situation or just a hotel that's cheaply built; changes how you can set up a flash - we're obviously talking about innocent exposure (and kind of CMNM - not a full-on shove hard cock in their face). If you can do that kind, you probably would NOT be asking for advice.


So it depends on the rooms (size and number of beds shared if at all) the layout of rooms and hallways, number of floors, how big (or small) the bath /toilet (in Europe (and Japan) it's always separate but not in North America. Other important things are who are the guests - backpackers - young, free-minded and playful or staid conservative hard-line tourist or locals who are just too stingy to stay at more expensive hotels (no offense --- I've stayed at many a budget hotel myself - there are many reasons to do so - than just saving money - friendliness, personal attention and a chance to talk to local owners (who are more likely to own and run it themselves).
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1) leave the door unlocked - even if you are NOT 'surprised' once when somebody embarrassingly open it while you're nude..for example they open the door and then close it quickly after getting a glimpse of you - (even though you did see or don't acknowledge having seen them) at least , he will know that there is a good possibility of it happening again (you've established a 'predictable' pattern ) so he might just deliberating sneak open the door the next time for a better look or just swing it back wide to give somebody else a chance to see.
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2) stay at least 3 nights -if you can.. Notice other's habits/timing for taking showering (or needing the bathroom) -- then make sure you're there before during or after - in some states of undress.
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3) Sometimes you can time it so well that you can be ready with all your stuff and clutching your towel loosely around your waste.. and then look disappointed if he makes in in before you. if he hesitate just say you won't be long or you're in a rush to an appointment so ask if you can jump inthe shower quickly ahead of him - while he shaves ...
4) If it's the reverse you get in first but see that he was wanting to shower/use the bath too (he's got his shower gear etc). You can suggest he go first IF you can get started with shaving -- then you can come in too and strip naked and shave until he gets finished with his shower. and comes out to dry.
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5) Use the shared bath/shower on another floor - then you have an excuse to be half-naked (skimpy towel that seems to be falling down by inself ) for a long distance... People want notice unless - for example, you ride up and down on the elevator naked to visit many floors.
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6) Pretend to go to a room (on the same or different floor where you KNOW there is not guest) - you can see the key has not been picked up - there are not footsteps at all from the room directly above yours.

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Elegantism (member id) started off the discussion on hostel hotness like this:


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I was staying in a hostel in Verona, Italy, in a beautiful converted villa. Some of the showers were communal, shower heads from a common pillar. When you took showers, it meant you were standing around the same pillar, sort of face to face. Got hooked up there taking showers together...


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It happened to me in Budapest; the hostel was an university residence and showers were in a big room; there were little walls between showers but no curtains, so it was easy to peer the guys in the fron shower's line or drying after the shower.
In Stockholm too, I found two hostels with showers not very private; there were curtains, but the undressing room was common, so before and after the shower, we could peer each other.
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It's great to find others who are equally attracted to CMNM (clothed male / naked male) experiences at hostels. Sex is sometimes overrated and that's not just sour grapes because I can and do get a lot of it. But I find the male bonding / friendship/ buddy camaraderie / 'skinship' aspect of relationships with other men (not just sex) can be so much more easily experienced in an environment like a hostel and I find myself craving such experiences because I feel so isolated from knowing men fully. Sure I can fuck around with guys, but it find it hard to make friends or just be buddies with guys without sex at the same time releasing our typically mutual inhibitions toward deeper male friendships.
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I have had some great times and also some highly homoerotic stays at several hostels... particularly at one hostel (presently unnamed) - which I have described here on a previous thread posting (now disappeared). I've written about these hostels and sought and given advice about traveling using hostels and the male bonding / male nudity that can happen here and on my blogs.
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nakedparis (above) has a great idea but I think we need another site/venue to share these since DN is so limited and the posts eventually scroll up and disappear. Also, there is the issue of privacy - when we start actually naming places and giving out address, then it may get back to the hostel owners (indirectly) that their establishments is targeted by gays/bi-guys seeking sex in their hostels. Some of the hottest places to stay are not always to gay-friendly or diversity oriented.

In the meantime, I want to hear more from elegantism about his experiences...
Hey, don't any of you guys blog? One cool idea is to create a Group Blog (using Blogger and Flickr) with multiple account holders (blog members). It's easy to set up (I can do that) and then you can either post entries by going to the Blogger (there can be many blog members or you can blog an entry by sending an email (even with an attached photo).


What do you say? Anybody want to try that... the discussion can still go on here but a 'good / useful' entry could also easily be blogged too. It doesn't mean to have to share id or have common passwords either.
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I created the CMNM blog and I can add you as a co-author.
Actually, you don't have to actually join blogger to do so - because even without being an (approved) blog author - it is now set up to allow posts to be sent by e-mail. That address is written in the first (trial) post at:


http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com/


The problem is how to handle explicit sexual photographs (I discuss in that post). Not having any solves that dilemma-- but there is still the matter of what constitutes 'sensual / sexy vs erotic or artistic nude vs blatant sexual behavior or obscenity as defined by the courts.

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It won't be an issue-- of course -- if nobody ever posts or even reads it.
Look at it first and then tell me what you think about 'managing' the off-site blog..... Guys Into CMNM


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So now it is off and running more to follow later.....
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For about 2 years we had a relationship, just sex and friend wise, more sex though. Well he fucks it all up and keeps asking me, "you ever suck off your brother, your brother is hot". I am like "no, now please don't mention that again, I am not into incest" (well hell I could have sex with my uncle (family through marriage), that's coming up lol). Well a week later he goes up to my brother and says "drop on your knees and suck my cock", my brother says "get the fuck outta here, I will never do that". Then my fathers friend says, "why? your brother already dropped to his knees and blew me". This is really screwed up because it gave my whole family ideas about me being gay, and they start intruding on my life. You have no idea how hard it is to face it with a family that isn't homophobic but a family that wouldn't look at you the same again.

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Well at this point I broke off the relationship, and have been in hiding from this guy, because to this day he still talks to my family, and I always tell my family I don't like him, he needs to stay away from the store. (I don't know how, but I got away with what he said to my brother) About a year ago, he finally finds me, and says "yeah I am no longer into younger guys anymore, I am into older guys now".
I say "well that is good, I hope it works out for you", then he says "well you are a older guy now, want to go on a cruise with me?" I am like "are you serious after what happened between me and you." He goes on and on, finally my father comes back and starts talking to him, well I make my get-a-way, and hide for the rest of the day.


I really had feelings for this guy at first, it might have been just dumb feelings because I was so young, but after what happened it disgusted me, and made me never want to see him again. I have been insecure with my Bi-Sexual life ever since this has happened, and it was my first Gay Sexual Experience! I left out many, many screwed up details.

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But on to my Uncle. One time I was in Florida with my Brother's Girlfriend, my Uncle and his 3 kids. So we all go to the water park and as we were standing in line I accidentally brushed my hand on my uncles cock, through his bathing suit, well we both looked at each other and didn't say anything. Later that day, I go into the restroom's to take a leak, well he comes in with me and stands in the stall directly next to me, we are talking etc, well I catch him staring at my cock (He is a big guy around 6'4" perfect body thats makes you want to scream ecstasy), he can look over the paritions blocking us, but I can't because I am only 5'10". Then some kid comes up to us behind and starts talking to me, this kid was only about 7 and I felt like going nuts cause I wanted to see where this went, by the time I turned back around my uncle was finished and started walking away!

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Now the reasons I have are, 1) I caught gay porn on his computer when I was younger, 2) what happened in the stalls, and 3) About 6 months later, my family and my uncles family get together and its just me and him alone and I catch him again staring at my cock, and comes up to me standing closer, and my face is directly alined to his cock, at this point he is standing about a foot or less away from me, his legs spread open like a V but upside down of course. I am not sure if this is a reason but shit gives me a good damn reason after him getting so close to me after staring at my cock.


Another time was when we were at the beach, (this isn't really a reason) well he says to me all the

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time, well time to get into the cold water and have our cock's shrivel on us (i am laughing and screaming in my mind at this point, cause I just want to have sex, one night with him, shit even more if I can). Well we are swimming and I brush up against his cock again. We both say nothing again, but about 20 minutes later I felt a brush against mine and he wasnt far from me at all, but we had my 1 cousin with us, so I don't know if it was an accident or on purpose, my uncle was looking at me right after it happened though.


It's driving me insane, what do you all think? Its not big evidence, and my gaydar (I actually do have one lol, I start getting a nervous feeling around gay guys, and all I have to do is look at them in the face, no talk or nothing lol), isn't working with him, but then again it doesn't work with people I have known basically my whole life, as I have had an encounter with my friend before, and he forced it.

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Re: Has your friend's dad ever hinted at fooling around?

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Once (it was only two years ago), I had a sleepover at my mate Sam's house.


I had wanked him off a couple of time, but because we were *straight*(and he still is to this day), it was OK.

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Anyway we had just finished a wank session, and he had dropped off in his bed. I was forced into the sleeping bag. Then I heard the stairs creaking. I presumed it was the wind, because we were in the attic room. Then I heard the floorboards creak. Then I smelt Calvin Klein aftershave, and a large hairy hand went into my sleeping bag. I quickly realised it was Sam's dad. I tried to put up some form of resistance, but I gave up and decided not to bother.

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When he finished, he took his boxers off and gave them to me, then walked off naked.


I never told Sam, and we are bezzies today!


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I had something similar happen to me like this. But it doesn't end pretty...... Some of this story is being altered, don't get to get to much detail, it really hurt me.


When I was younger, I wasn't thinking that I would ever be Bi-Sexual. So here is how the story begins.

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One day I am in my father's shop (he owned his own business/store), and he has a friend who always had a fetish about feet. (Which feet to me is a turn off big time due to this, before it didn't bother me but now it does) Well my father's friend would always play around massaging my feet etc, and this one time, he put my foot where his cock is. I guess I would say I got turned on by it.

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After that day was over, I asked my father if his friend could take me to the mall to meet some friends, well that was a lie, and my dad's friend thought he was dropping me off too. Well we get to the mall and I tell him, "my friends aren't coming now".... He said "ok, well since we are here want to go around and shop" I said "sure". About 2 hours later we pass by this one store, and it had slippers in there that looked like big shoes but were comfortable as hell, well he being the foot fetish person he is keeps telling me "take off your shoes put those on see how they feel", this guy at this point must be getting turned on by my feet, so I did it after 20 minutes of going back and for no yes no yes no yes..... I get the slippers and we leave to go back to the car.

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At this point I am wondering if he is gay, bi or straight. I didn't have the courage to ask him, so I asked him for a pen and a paper (lol), he gives it to me and I write it down and give it to him. He responds saying "yes I am", he then asked me, "are you Gay, Bi or Straight", I answered, "Bi" (because I was interested in him sexually). I started crying a little because I was young and all, well at this point he puts my head on his lap and starts driving me home, and making me feel good by talking to me and saying everything is ok.


While he is driving me home, my head is right by his cock, I start looking at it, and at this point I guess he noticed because he put his fingers by my face/mouth. I start sucking on his finger like I would, when giving oral. Well when I do that he puts my face right on top of his jeans by his cock, I unbutton and unzip his pants take out his cock and suck my first cock. He speeds up takes a off road to park, and me and him have sex for the first time, and my first gay sexual encounter.

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