Sunbuns99 - Archived Blog Posts

[sunbuns99]

​

An original story first published on my JUB blog


by sunbuns99 / sunbuns / sunbunz



​

[FONT="arial narrow"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT][FONT="arial narrow"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="arial narrow"][FONT=&quot]Some of the photos are of me and a few were even taken on this day by cellphone camera. But the others are[/FONT][/FONT][FONT="arial narrow"][FONT=&quot] just photos found on the Net. I obviously didn't get a photo the stranger who caught me naked and jerking -- although now I wish I had asked him to take a picture.[/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]I do a lot of traveling to Asia -- recently to Hong Kong and into southern China and have lived in Tokyo for long periods at a time. I want to tell about flashing a clothed Japanese guy in Tokyo a couple of summer .. actually, it was one of the first times to really flash a guy and get more than just a reaction. He seemed to really like seeing me nude and enjoyed watching me jerk off. It happened in a public park on Tokyo Bay and the young man was a complete stranger who was attracted by his noticing I was naked in a public park where other people where around. It caused hime to come closer and catch me masturbating and even to encourage me to ejaculate. It was one of the hottest experiences I've ever had with a stranger.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot][ The photo on the left just above is one of the author's of this blog.]
[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="book antiqua"]

[FONT=&quot]It was in early June and I had some time off so I went down to Odaiba -- which is a large man-made island in Tokyo Bay just across the Rainbow Bridge (I think that is name). There is a beach (not much good for swimming because the water is so dirty, but there are some windsurfers in the water). Out passed this sandy beach which is about 1000 m/yds longs, there is a walkway out to some old man-made islands (one is exactly square). [/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]These were built to appear to be fortifications and there were large fake cannons (highly phallic - if you ask me) that were supposed to scare off Admiral Perry and the American Navy way back in the mid 1800s. Anyway, this area is a public park now. So I headed out there one sunny Friday in June to check it out. I found one corner of the 'square' island where there were fewer people. It faced the long suspension bridge that spanned from Odaiba island over to main Tokyo. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="book antiqua"]

[FONT=&quot][/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]The island has a embankment around the perimeter but the entire center is at a much lower level so you have to climb up stairs to reach the banks -- this means that many people don't actually see over perimeter as they walk around the island. There were some other people (partly clothed) sunning themselves further on down this side of the island so I decided to strip down to undies and catch some rays.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot] One guy was wearing only a fundoshi - [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]the wrap around loin cloth that used to be traditional Japanese underwear and now is typically only worn during festivals. Seeing him almost nude inspired me.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]It wasn't long before I went further and took off all clothes. It was a grassy slope leading down the bank and I was sitting under a tree so it was not so clearly obvious to pedestrians who went up the stone stairs 30 ft behind me that I was nude. But if someone came off the walkway along the embankment and walked down the grassy slope, they get a good idea. So it was not a blatant act of flashing .. I was sunbathing nude, but that would only be clear to someone who was curious enough to approach me. There were boats that passed in the harbor which might have been able to see more if the driver or passengers were interested -- also pedestrians who walked along the bridge walkway could catch a glimpse of a nude form in the grass but they could not clearly identify me unless that had binoculars (or a zoom lens) since the bridge was far off. I stayed for nearly two hours -- not much happened.[/FONT][/FONT]

​

[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="book antiqua"][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]

 

[sunbuns99]

​

Peekaboo flashing often takes the form of nudity at college boy dorm and social events or frat parties, nudity at sporting events, rock concerts and public events where young and often drunk people gather to 'have fun'. But it also exists on a more personalized basis .. such as between college dorm roommates or when regular handymen or deliverymen come to a person's house (sometimes repeatedly) and some accidental exposure to (male) nudity occurs. There are legions of stories -- many probably urban legend -- about the voyeuristic adventures of pizza delivery boys, UPS truck drivers, and newspaper delivery boys - some of which they have documented (in blogs, Youtube,
porno, etc) but more they themselves often are actually the targeted brunt of someone else's desire for getting-naked-for-the-pizza-guy prank. I have a strong feeling that many times such 'jokes' actually have latent homoerotic desires or subcurrents underlying the 'urge' to strip or to have someone stripped. You have alluded to that type in your posts above. Why then would getting the guys naked or panstied or teabagged be the NUMBER ONE hazing or college party pranks for seemingly millions of boyish breeder-types (twinks and young college or NON-college men up to age 30 or so). Spend some time searching YouTube or similar sites (or more blatantly risque or explicit video-sharing sites) to get a better idea of what I am talking about.

​

So this is an important form of CMNM experience that I don't really address in the above and that's because it's not easily categorized: flashing. Perhaps it's only related or could be considered a fourth sub-category or type of CMNM.

​

Showing one's naked body and/or genitals (without or without an erect state) seems to transcend almost all the above categories. It may be accidental or at least spontaneous, it is definitely a conscious act (though I guess a nude 'sleepwalker' doesn't plan his actions), and it may or may not occur in socially accepted circumstances... can you call show your cock (semi-erect) to another guy on a nude beach 'flashing'? Maybe it has more to do with the reality of erotic or sensual communication (body language, etc) than mere act of being naked in front of a clothed male.


[ The author of this article sunning his buns at a public seaside park. ]

 

[sunbuns99]

​

So the exact environment or conditions are very important but also very unique and specific to the situation (like good timing in while visiting your Uncle's home, etc) so that one male can either be nude or be the clothed one who enjoys seeing the nude male in a place where nudity may or may not be expected. Perhaps 'flashing' (showing your body/gentitals/nudity) to another male (clothed or not) may be a subset of this category ... or not.. I'm not quite sure.

​

As has been pointed out, one essential factor is whether power/control is involved and whether the sexual arousal is experienced by both (Clothed or Nude) participants. I think that the degree to which the CMNM event or act may or may not be related to whether or not it is a voluntary act or coerced or forced on the other party (by force, persuasion or manipulation that physical or psychological or social pressure or even some combinations of all three. is also important. Another important point is whether the power/submission is part of the social construct (police office / arrestee or suspect, teacher or coach / student or athlete or officer -military 'grunt' (lower rank), priest - altar boy, etc) or simply an interpersonal construct... kind of like role-playing like the father -son (daddy - boy) relationships that some gay men prefer.

​

3) accidental or unintended CMNM experiences (like when someone opens a toilet stall door and exposes a naked (or masturbating/erect guy), or getting locked out (pushed out) of a hotel room by college buddies, etc... ).


There are all kinds of variables that come into play and the huge extremes in the level of conscious and unconscious sexual turns-on with all of these variations. the subtleties or the directness (blatantness) are different for every purpose and every person.

​

Certainly, one aspect of CMNM involves flashing. Flashing is a form of exhibitionism - from mild to wild to extreme - exposing one's body, specifically the genitals and/or buttocks (or breasts in women) to another person or group of people (who may or may not be clothed). Mild forms of it are 'accidental exposure' or peekaboo flashing -which are so very common among some social groups and situations -- so much so that it is absolutely NOT even regarded as any form of 'sexual' behavior at all - especially in some circles or subcultures.

​

 

[sunbuns99]

​

[This article is my response to the above forum discussion question was taken from Tribe.net / CMNM Tribe]


For my part, I see CMNM scenes/interactions as something far broader than just humiliation vs power/control. As I think back over my 'development' as boy/teen/young adult/ mature male, I have a strong reason to believe that nudity (showing skin) is a fundamental and important form of male-male communication.

​

While power/pecking order/rank/machismo are important aspects of the CMNM lifestyle (sexual preference/fetish - I hate to limit it to being JUST a sexual fetish) I think it is just how and where such kinds of experiences actually occur (for what purpose do the men are doing the CMNM 'acts/behaviors' ) that determines more whether the 'sexual eroticism' of the CMNM involves a power exchange or not. Oddly enough, we've been having a similar (but limited because of text lenght) discussion on the CMNM Xtube group (that I started recently).

​

I think there are three broad categories for how and where CMNM occurs. And you can probably take that to mean its 'purpose' - it's not always has to do with just sex (getting off). When we start to view men's sexual and erotic behaviors as more than just SEX, then it both complicates and liberates the discussion/analysis.



1) planned or commercial situations where both parties involved, the clothed man (males) and naked ones are participating willingly and in predetermined locations (such as a bar, Pride event, male strip club, male lap-dancing, or private group sex parties. Some examples are nude nights at some gay bars, or stripping contests, or amateur strip nights, or hiring a nude escort or sex 'massage' escort (not to be confused with a real licensed masseur or massage therapist). Some are these 'planned' CMNM events are a part of a larger men's gathering or nude or sexual retreat - CMEN, Burning Man, or Street Festival (Southern Decadance in New Orleans or Dore Alley Fair in San Francisco).

​

​

2) pre-meditated, semi-random or semi-accidental, spontaneous or simply one-way CMNM (this is a very gray area - so it's not clearly definable)..

I don' t think that BOTH the nude and clothed male have to both be willing participants for it to count as a CMNM situation. For one of them, it may seem completely 'natural' or accidental. In these types of CMMN situations, only ONE of the two manipulates (or at least it appears that one side is cognizant and the other side is ignorant (or innocent) of 'planning' or 'willingly' participant in sexually stimulating their counterpart.
​

​

 

[sunbuns99]

 

[sunbuns99]

​

From: Thorn [thorngay] on his Thorngay Yahoo Group

Thorn asked the question: Which are your favourite exhibitionists (from among the these photos (see below)?
His casual poll question caused me to think a bit more deeply. In reality, it can certainly be argued whether any of these guys is actually a 'real' exhibitionist at all.
Showing cock (with bare ass and a naked body) is NOT in among itself an act of exhibitionism. Most of these guys are just being genuinely 'nude' in public for another person that satisfying a personal sexual obsession with been 'seen'.
It's exactly this very type of confusion or ambiguity of definition about the role of nakedness (particularly male nudity) that lies at core of human societies' suppression and -- even repression - of what is central to understanding sexuality and the nature of sexual relationships - whether gay, straight, or bi or any other variation on these preferences.
Sorry to wax deeply philosophical but Thorn's attempt to generate a bit of visual 'teasing' (beefcake showcasing) by using photos of young men just being naked because they are making a social statement using visible nudity (in seeming violation of social and moral restraints) underlies to what extent we ALL (including the gay and liberally enlightened straight people need to re-assess and evolve our consciousness.

​

Yes, the guy showing his dick on the soccer field is obviously a porn model. He is only vicariously 'exposing' himself himself because cameraman and a few studio assistant are the only people actually 'seeing' his erection. It's interesting to consider that more and more of what is called pornography contains images that actually exposes 'exhibitionistic' tendencies. It is as if.. the viewers (those who buy or find the photos erotic) are excited by the fact that the 'model' (ostensibly as 'real, guy-next-door hunk') would dare to expose himself in public in order to achieve sexual pleasure or to stimulate or provoke the 'innocent' viewer / bystander to some (as yet) wild act of sexual abandon.

​

Therefore, the real question should be: Which photo(s) should NOT be considered exhibitionistic act? Or why you like each photo and what kinds of emotions or sexual feelings does it generate in YOU? What what kinds of emotions or sexual feelings or convictions/values is the PERSON in the photos experiencing at the time it was taken? How does he feel now, knowing that his naked photo (and face) are distributed widely on the Internet (via blogs like this one)?
THORNGAY GROUP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thorngay





Forwarded message ---------- From: Thorn [thorngay] on his Thorngay Yahoo Group

Thorn asked the question: Which are your favourite exhibitionists (from among the photos above)?

In reality, it can certainly be argued whether any of these guys is actually a 'real' exhibitionist at all.

Showing cock (with bare ass and a naked body) is NOT in among itself an act of exhibitionism. Most of these guys are just being genuinely 'nude' in public for another person that satisfying a personal sexual obsession with been 'seen'.

 

[sunbuns99]

​

Recently, I find this often happens in a hostel or similar situation (campground, at the beach or gym showers, or clothing optional resort, etc, where you meet and befriend strangers who later get to see you naked or even aroused - almost by 'accident' not totally by design). I collect a lot of CMNM photos and have them for 'friends only' on: http://www.flickr.com/people/sunbuns/ You have to join Flickr (free) and add me as friend to view the pics. Please STATE on your profile that you are 18 years old or OVER 18. This makes things legal and I'll get less flack from Flickr for pandering to minors. There are also thousands of Flickr groups (little discussion but lots of photos) devoted to different aspects of this same idea: Frat parties, doctor's physical exams, being naked in public (not just flashing from a alley or window), sports locker rooms, etc.

​

My own Net photos collections are categorized in sets as such. There are also scores of Net porn sites devoted to some particular 'flavor' or scene that is strongly related to CMNM. There are also a few private and public groups on Yahoo and Tribe.net devoted to CMNM. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunbuns/375290868/in/set-72157594501819505/ * You must be a Flickr member and my Flickr friend to view the private pics on my Flickr photostream.


_________________ The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend

​

 

[sunbuns99]

​

It may be partly (or mostly) fantasy in many cases.. but there is also a strong element or possibility that such kinds of CMNM interactions do happen for real and may either secretly or outright knowingly represent some kind of sexual or homosexual gratification for some men - regardless or not - whether they recognize them as overtly homoerotic, or gay or perhas as nothing more than 'just us boys' goofing around. I think that many guys who visit (lurk) or participate in the forum on JustusBoys or DickFlash.com or Dudenudes are actually CMNM participants -- I seem that the need for sexual intimacy is NOT the only reason that males - especially so-called gay, bi, and curious men - like to congregate on such sites. I think we all have a basic need for naked intimacy and yet - we are also 'trapped' by the social mores and prohibitions of our modern 'human' socities which requires us to behave in rather repressed ways and to be completely clothed when doing that.

​

I would like to expand the definition of CMNM that I have given above: In CMMN, everyone else does NOT have to completely dressed (there can be a mixture or dressed and nude people in the same situation. It can be a private one-to-one relationship or in a social group or even the public community (such as New Orlean's Mardi Gras or SF street fairs, Burning Man,etc). There can be more than one nude guy - it's just that there must be at least one clothed guy too. Often, guys can get CMNM thrills by being the dressed one or the naked one alternatively. I know that it works this way for me. I'm not passing any critical judgement: some people are turned on by multiple form of sexual stimulation - some of us are bisexual (past / present and future) and some of us get off flashing or simply just being exposed (or getting to see those who do).

​

A true (extreme) dickflasher seems to get off by showing an erect cock in places/situations where people don't expect it and are shocked to have the 'space' invaded by a hard dick.. at the extreme, it may be the only way he can get off (ejaculate). It seems that there are actually very few guys who fall into that category. The CMNM (being exposed where clothed guys can view (and/or be visual stimuated) seems to find his (me being one of them) thrill in being naked in front of guys (dressed or in a state of dressing/undressing) where it's is more or less socially acceptable or at least tolerated (even glorified) - like a public street fair or a no-pants or strip night at a male-oriented bar, etc, or more 'innocently' in a locker room or frat party. But I know that in my case, I get a lot more social/psychological fulfillment / satisifaction (?) and some erotic/sexual pleasure from being in a CMNM situation - especially where I can establish a personal relationship with the clothed (or naked) guys.

 

[sunbuns99]

​

CMNM = Clothed Male Naked Male. What is it? Basically the idea is that -- for some guys (I would argue that it is mainly true for most guys -- not just gay men), it is intimately arousing and often sexually hot to be the only naked guy in the room when everyone else is wearing clothes. That's the basic condition for CMNM -- which I can't really disagree with, of course)--- but for me -- CMNM has a lot more to it than just that.

​

First of all, it matters (or doesn't matter -- if you are versatile) whether you are the one naked or the one clothed. I like to be boths -- at times. But like most sexual pleasures, preferences, and personally erotic behaviors or scences, there are hundreds of variations on what turns people on and as many 'flavors' - vanilla to extremely spicy -- as there are shades of human personality. It also matters - importantly - whether the CMNM situation is completely natural or voluntary or whether it's a contrived or mutually agreed to social convention - for example, one guy being made to strip (apparently 'against' his wishes ) - rather like a police arrest with full body check.. or more subtly as in the case of a doctor's physical examination. So the aspect of level of control vs freedom plays a role it CMNM for some men.

​

Some only find it kinky or stimulating if one of them is 'bound' - either physically or often just psychologically... so the idea of service or subservient - even S & M -- may be a part of it for some people who seek these scenes. But it does NOT have to include that - at all. Obviously, important too is the level of 'realness' or authenticity to the CMNM event or experience. So.. are they two guys just role-playing in and out of clothes -- as a kind of private (or public) game or is it a real daily life experience involved CMNM that suddenly turns on one or both of the participants.. like say.. when a young cute doctor gets a hard-on examining a hunky military dude or when a police officer rookie gets his jollies when stripping down and 'manhandling' a suspect - touch his genitals or rubbing his ass and legs... So the aspect of 'uniform' and everything that clothing or lack of it (nakedness) symbolized can also come into play in CMNM interactions. Another very important aspect is the level of intimacy - sexual, psychological or emotional.. for some people these are completely separated or one or two may even be completely divorced from the CMNM interaction.

​

For others, the CMNM expereince may be the only time that these three critical aspects of human intimacy CAN be fused together. So some CMNM may happen between completely or virtually anonymous people -- and for others, they can ONLY engage in CMNM behavior and actions exactly because they KNOW the other person very well or even romantically. The final aspect is whether this is social ordained and accepted as part of larger group or even community situation... just as college fraternity hazing or the locker room antics that goes on among male sports teams... or in work situations when the 'younger' and newer males on the job have to undergo some type of 'induction' rituals for new recruits ...

 

[sunbuns99]

​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]We drove down towards the group of twenty or so guys. They were all around our age, some looked as though they must just have passed their driving test yesterday. I drove slowly past with my dick now quite hard with the excitement. One of the guys must have spotted and nudged his mate who turned round looked in and smiled. Further on another guy was even more blatant as he pointed and drew the attention of two others. [/FONT][/FONT]

​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]My dick was now jumping and I looked across at Eric who was hard as a rod.We drove out of the car park, with Eric protesting that we should go round again. "No way," I said heading on the road home.We arrived at my houses still wearing only our T-shirts. We had driven right through the centre of town. It was getting dark so it wasn't too risky but it was pretty damn exciting, wondering if a bus would pull up alongside, a pedestrian walk through the traffic, or a big 4x4 come past. [/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot] We arrived at my house and, got out of the car still naked from the waist down with a massive hard on. I [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]walked round behind the car and Eric got out and headed my way. He too was hard and big.Standing behind the car I grabbed his T-shirt and pulled it up and off. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot] He was now naked in the darkness between the house and the hedge. Eric lifted my T-shirt, sliding his hand up my stomach and chest. I grabbed Eric's hard dick and started stroking, we lay down on the cool concrete. I was the first to cum. It was one of those deep shuddering ones that you get after real excitement. Eric stayed at my house that night and as we drifted off to sleep hugging each other we talked about what thrills we would get up to next.[/FONT][/FONT]

​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[sunbuns99]

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]"You bet," said Eric, "this is going to be a blast." Eric had dared me the previous night to drive around town wearing nothing but a T-shirt. I had said he had to join me, so here we were ready to go. "OK, let's go for it," I said my heart beginning to pound and my cock getting hard in anticipation.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]We headed out to my car and got in. "Why don't we drive to the beach," I said, "we can lose our shorts there.""Sounds good to me," said Eric. On the way Eric was talking about our impromtu window show the previous night, then talked about all sorts of other things he had done previously. "But doing it together is so much more fun," he gave my thigh a squeeze.We reached the beach and parked the car. "OK, you first... this was your idea," I laughed. Without having to be asked twice, Eric pulled down his shorts revealing that lovely uncut dick I had seen for the first time the previous night. I couldn't be [/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot] a party pooper so I pulled my shorts down and off my ankles. So here we were, in my car in public naked from the waist down and both of us hard with excitement. "Right," I started the engine and drove off down the road. There were a few people around, from where they were standing we looked as though we were fully clothed. The danger was that a higher vehicle would drive alongside us, someone would look out of a building, or that someone would cross the road. We drove around for some time enjoying the excitement of this risk of being seen. It was Eric who said, "Let's go drive down where the cruisers gather".[/FONT][/FONT][FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot] This was the place where all the young guys turn up and ogle at each others [/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]cars and equipment... although I have also reckoned quite a lot of them are sizing up each other's equipment, not just the cars'!"Wow, you have got to be kidding!" I responded, "There will be people all round." "So, all the more fun," Eric replied, "come on, we wanted some fun." "OK, I replied and turned the car round." [/FONT][/FONT]

​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]We arrived at the car park that everyone meets in and drove in. Sure enough there were guys around our age everywhere, looking at cars, peering into cars and standing around in groups. I drove round the outside of the car park. "Come on," Eric said, "go there!" He was pointing to an area which was full of guys standing round cars. "OK," I said with a shrug of the shoulders.[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[sunbuns99]

​

[FONT="arial"][FONT=&quot]An original story (whether it is a true personal experience only the author can say) by Thorn. Posted on Yahoo Groups: thorngay@yahoogroups.com on January 10, 2008.[/FONT][/FONT]





CHAPTER 2 Car flashing with my buddy, Eric by Thorn

​

[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]The following night Eric arrived as arranged. He looked great, his white T-shirt and white shorts showed off his body well.I playfully put my arm around [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]his waist enjoying the warmth of his body as I ushered him into the house. "You really on for this," I asked. [/FONT][/FONT]

​

 

[sunbuns99]

​

The whole experience only last 15 minutes or so.. but it was so totally hot and unexpected that it was the source for many a long reflection on what had happened and why it has seemed so sublime a sexual encounter. It was the event that caused me to focus on the clothed / unclothed aspects of homosexual attraction and probably what made me identify with CMNM. Obviously, there were a few more elements involved: I was naked in public, and the guy was more than 20 years younger than me.
​

posted by: sunbuns (Kelly Lewis)

​

​

​

 

[sunbuns99]

​

Kelly


​

[h=2]Re: Past Experiences and First Time[/h]


​

It happened to me another way. I guess there were other so-called CMNM experiences before that, but this one was so memorable and definitely fit the category. I had gone out to a public park along the shoreline of the bay. It's a semi-deserted spot but there were people around but just not in the immediate vicinity. I stripped naked and discreetly sunbathed. I had taken a couple of beers along to enjoy and so was feeling horny. A cyclist appeared and sort of appeared interested in getting a look, but he left after a bit. That just made me hornier.
Then a 20-something guy noticed me from a distance and slowly made his way over toward me. I could tell he was intrigued and wanted to confirm that I was actually nude. Eventually, it became obvious to him that I was naked and aroused. It made it deliciously erotic for me to expose myself to him in public, but he kept just getting closer.

​

Without saying a word, but only gesturing, he urged me to grab my cock and starting jacking. He remained standing and fully clothed in his athlete training pants and a jacket, but he kept keeping closer until finally he was at my feet. He used his own feet to press my legs further apart and he stared down at me, jerking with gusto for his pleasure. I tried sitting up to grasp his obviously erect cock through the soft materials of his pants, but he wouldn't let me do so, practically commanding me with nothing more than grunts to lie back down and to get back to work jerking my own cock. Finally, it was just too much and I came in great spurts all over my chest and belly as I lay on the ground. He smiled and said thanks, leaving me there panting but satisfied. I quickly looked around to see if anybody else had been watching since I had been lost in lust for a few minutes.

 

[sunbuns99]

​

One of the new members on the cmnm.tribe.net (private group) started a discussion recently.
I'd like to hear about others guys' experiences with "innocent" CMNM, especially first times. Here's one of mine to get the discussion started:

​

My first time real CMNM was maybe 6 or 7 years ago. First, let me say that I am str8-married but have always been at least bi-curious and then bi-discreet. So while this was not my first time messing with a guy, it was a first CMNM experience. I was on a business trip and looking around for a jo partner on line. Most every response wanted way more than I was looking for. One str8 guy got me chatting and told me about a scenario he'd like to play out, which we did.


My friend came over to my room. He brought a six pack. it had been unusually hot and sticky and I had not showered yet after my business day. We enjoyed a quick cold beer together, and opened the second within a few minutes an hung out sitting on the only couch in the room. Half way through the 2nd beer, I said I had not showered yet and wanted to jump into the shower real quick sync I felt grimmy. He said sure. While I did not undress in front of him, he did sneak into the bathroom while was showering and took a peak or two while I was in the shower. I came out only in the rather small hotel towel. I just needed to cool down a bit more.

​

At this point I sat in the chair opposite the couch and continued slowly sipping my beer. after a shower and almost 2 beers, I was feeling horny and sneaked a feel now and then. He pretended not to notice at first, but then gave me an encouraging nod.

​

I let the towel drape open and let him see my growing member. I was feeling both embarrassed and comfortable at the same time. All the while, he had his shorts and t-shirt on. Then he said, nah, it's cool, so I just took the towel off and started to openly stroke, slowly. He wanted a closer look, so I sat on the coffee table in front of him, and then next to him on the couch. He played with himself through his pants, but I did not see his dick that first time although I really wanted to. i think being denied seeing him naked and hard was a turn on but also a bit embarrassing that he was just watching me masturbate. Of course, I got to a point where I tried to stop since I could not see his, but he egged me on and convinced me to shoot for him to watch. It was very cool to have to let my guard down and just be totally natural and do this private act in front of another guy.

[FONT="bitstream vera sans" , "arial" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot]posted by: [/FONT][/FONT] David

 

[sunbuns99]

​

Often, guys can get CMNM thrills by being the dressed one or the naked one alternatively. I know that it works this way for me. I'm not passing any critical judgement on any other kind of male-oriented sexual lifestyle -- (flashing, BDSM, leather, role-playing (involving uniforms or costumes) because some people are turned on by multiple form of sexual stimulation - some of us are bisexual (past / present and future) and some of us get off flashing or simply just being exposed (or getting to see those who do).

​

A true (extreme) dickflasher seems to get off by showing an erect cock in places/situations where people don't expect it and are shocked to have the 'space' invaded by a hard dick.. at the extreme, it may be the only way he can get off (ejaculate). It seems that there are actually very few guys who fall into that category.

​

The CMNM (being exposed where clothed guys can view (and/or be visual stimuated) seems to find his (me being one of them) thrill in being naked in front of guys (dressed or in a state of dressing/undressing) where it's is more or less socially acceptable or at least tolerated (even glorified) - like a public street fair or a no-pants or strip night at a male-oriented bar, etc, or more 'innocently' in a locker room or frat party. But I know that in my case, I get a lot more social/psychological fulfillment / satisifaction (?) and some erotic/sexual pleasure from being in a CMNM situation - especially where I can establish a personal relationship with the clothed (or naked) guys.

​

Recently, I find this often happens in a hostel or similar situation (campground, at the beach or gym showers, or clothing optional resort, etc, where you meet and befriend strangers who later get to see you naked or even aroused - almost by 'accident' not totally by design). I collect a lot of CMNM photos and have them for 'friends only' on: http://www.flickr.com/people/sunbuns/
You have to join Flickr (free) and add me as friend to view the pics. Please STATE on your profile that you are 18 years old or OVER 18 This makes things legal and I'll get less flack from Flickr for pandering to minors.

​

There are also thousands of Flickr groups (little discussion but lots of photos) devoted to different aspects of this same idea: Frat parties, doctor's physical exams, being naked in public (not just flashing from a alley or window), sports locker rooms, etc. My own Net photos collections are categorized in sets as such. There are also scores of Net porn sites devoted to some particular 'flavor' or scene that is strongly related to CMNM. There are also a few private and public groups on Yahoo and Tribe.net devoted to CMNM. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunbuns/375290868/in/set-72157594501819505/

​

* You must be a Flickr member and my Flickr friend to view the private pics on my Flickr photostream.
_________________ The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!

 

[sunbuns99]

I think that many guys who visit (lurk) or participate in the message boards and forums of gay social networking and gay hook-up sites such as Dudesnude, JustusBoys, Gaywatch, Dlist, *******, and definitely on sites such as DickFlash are actually craving CMNM experiences -- rather than simply just sex to get off. It's not that they don't need or want to get off (ejaculate) or that they don't need to communicate or try to relate and form relationships or friendship, but I believe that the need to profoundly reach a deep intimate level of emotional or psycho-sexual communication or interaction with other men -- THAT being with other men in what fundamentally involves nudity -- is a very strong force and a desire that most all men feel that must fulfill.

**********************

​

​

Therefore, I would like to expand the definition of CMNM (clothed male - naked male). You can see that expanded definition in earlier entries of the blog




I have started, devoted to this topic: Guys Into CMNM You can

​

read it at: http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com Your experiences, stories, comments/reactions, Net resources, pics are welcomed as contributions for the CMNM blog. Please send them to: sunbuns99 AT yahoo DOT com

**********************



​

In CNMN experiences, not everyone involved needs to be to completely dressed or undressed (there can be mixed dressed/nude people in the same situation). It's the potential for nudity as a form of intimate or erotic communication that is more important than actually who is nude or clothed and how far each way. There can be more than one nude guys - it's just that there must be one clothed guys too.

​

 

[sunbuns99]

a​

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot]The photo just below is only one of two dozen that a young man (who called himself Str8man) posted on another gay discussion board. The user explained that he was 'really' straight, but that he wanted (or needed) the advice of guys who could be honest about whether his 'dick' was big enough or not. [/FONT][/FONT]

​

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot] It was obviously more than simply that because the posting of his self-pics (never the face) has gone on periodically for several months now. While initially a 'virgin', he explained during the course of the posts how he had had sexual experiences with his girlfriend, but was often horny so considered getting a 'blowjob' from a guy at some point. I think this type of Net 'naked' exposure or self-revelation is symptomatic of what I call the need for male 'skinship' - a form of the CMNM experience. [/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot]As our societies have accepted 'gayness' (at least to some legal extent), the stigma about being bi or gay - while not vanished - is certainly greatly reduced and for a few happy (no pun intended) gay men, it may be non-existent. However, at the same time, I think this new sexual 'freedom' for all males puts traditional self-identity in some type of young males and even older men into greater jeopardy. [/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot]In a way, the macho male is even more threatened in his feelings of isolation and his lack of ability to make 'acceptable' buddy-buddy relationships with other males (particularly those a little older and wiser ) in whom he cannot fully confide or whose affection and need for intimacy he feels he must still largely deny - except for 'outburst' like this one on gay/bi Net sites. In a way, gay sites are becoming the confessionals of a whole new generation of males who crave deeper male intimacy - with or without everything else that is involved in a emotional romantic or sexual interpersonal relationship.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT="times new roman" , "times" , serif][FONT=&quot] For the young kid or full-blow teenage, (such as Str8man above) who may have no father (divorced parents) or even no close adult relationships at all - especially men because of today's climate of paranoia about the potential of 'child abuse' by ordinary adults and social authorities figures (teachers, counselors, coaches, priests). He may feel particularly isolated or alone in his feeling of inadequacy -- especially when he is growing up, going through adolescence's change and hormonal upheavals, and experiencing the first few sexual and romantic relationships. It seems to be all to common to see exactly we are seeing above -- it's emblematic of a larger social phenomenon.[/FONT][/FONT]
-------------------------------------------

 

[sunbuns99]

​

It's not easy but it can be done. It's just not going to happen over night and the key to first find a couple of others who are interested and also willing to be patient with the slow development of the group. Most guys who are turned on my other men sexually just want to jump to the wild orgy -- and that's NOT going to happen in most cases. If you want sex with strangers, then use Craig's List or go to a gay sex club, or travel to where there is one.


I know I've gone long to answer, but it was a good question, and one whose answer I can attempt to make an appropriate blog entry. Good luck and let me know how I might be able to help out.




Greetings,


Kelly Lewis, "sunbuns" - editor and admin, Guys Into CMNM blog and social networks
--------------------------
VISIT these sites below:
http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com



( Our blog which also links to CMNM groups)


http://www.pridesites.com/sunbuns/


(This is a mishmash of different sites and tools that, in effect, works much the
same way as a single integrated social network does).


https://cmnm4men.tumblr.com/
(My Tumblr devoted to cmnm photos)


http://www.justusboys.com/forum/groups/cmnm.html
(Our group (limited members) on JustUsBoys.com)

​

 

[sunbuns99]

​

For overt sexual situations, you can try a gay baths/sauna. I think Toledo has at least one, and there are certainly some in a few of the major cities around you; likewise a few gay bars have events where nudity (or semi-nudity) is condoned, or even where it is encouraged in backrooms, or enclosed patios, etc.

​

Of course, you can try to start a group -- or at least - hold a CMNM event in your area. I have lots of ideas and would do as much as possible to help promote in on our blogs, and social networks, etc. Depending on when it's held, I might be able to attend or organize/host part of it (I'll be traveling in North America from August 1 - 30 -from Hawaii to New York, from San Franciso, California to Provincetown, MA).




One way to start is to make your interest known by joining one (or all) of our Guys Into CMNM social networks. You may want to use a separate email address (since your real identity may expose you to some unwanted noisiness or scrutiny). However, in today's world, it has become less of a problem publicly admitting that one is gay. However, homophobes and morally self-righteous extremists still exist (and may actually be thriving).

​

It's probably obvious but it will take some initiative and some effort on the part of at least one person to get such an event or group started. However, even one is not enough. Therefore, you have to try to encourage or attract guys to actually participate FIRST as people -- not as sexual objects. If you try to 'round up' a bunch of hunks for your own private orgy, it's not going to work unless you look like a male fashion model and have the body of an Olympic athlete. To be realistic, most guys into CMNM are just regular guys. The guy down the street or the one who works at the mall or in local office building. What's it going to take to get them to come up with the courage to attend a CMNM event. My advice for guys trying to get a group started is to first make it a fully clothed gathering to initially.

​

Then a part of the group's activity can be to do something that involves nudity for a fairly short and non-threatening, fun activity - such as ask (or hire) a nude model for some sketching of the naked male form. Or watch a movie where male nudity is a recurring theme or important point in the plot. Hold a pool party or barn dance, play badminton or horseshoes, and allow some of the participants to disrobe. Set up a fashion night or a costume party in which the 'models' strip for a certain 'runway' event or make it a fund-raiser for charity by letting the audience bid for removal of each piece of clothing for some 'lucky' or willing volunteer who, thereby, gets stripped.




Sexual behavior (penetrative anal or oral) does not have to be involved - especially when the group's members are just meeting for the first time. If there are sparks, then it's better that things develop slowly so that everyone knows the boundaries and feels comfortable acting within them before starting any more 'aggressive' types of CMNM behaviors or situations, especially those involving domination or humiliation or mild bondage.