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One reader to our Guys Into CMNM blog wrote to ask recently: (That's you, Allen. Thanks). I thought there might be others here on Tribe who might also be interested starting or joining a local Clothed Male / Naked Male group in your local area. See our blog at:
http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com




Question: I wanted to see if you had a group of CMNM in northern Indiana for me to join? Any ideas and/or contacts I could make to join in the area? Thanks.


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Answer: So.. what do you do when you live in a rural area or far away from a metropolitan area?


Are there any local groups and if not, what you do to get one started?




(Answered by 'sunbuns', Kelly Lewis, editor and admin, Guys Into CMNM blog and social networks).




While they may be members of one of our several social networking (online) groups who live the your area, Northern Indiana (or southern Mich or northwestern Ohio), I don't think there are any real (off-line) CMNM meetings or events -- at least not yet.



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CMNM hasn't been recognized for very long and it's still not commonly understood - even by the very men (particularly gay men) who are so turned on by it. There are elements of it in so many activities / situations that are NOT simply sexual by definition. For example, there may be a men's nudist group in your area or close by. While many don't advocate sexual behavior at their events, some don't prohibit certain types of opportunities where naked and clothed men can intermingle.




Another form of CMNM often occurs in certain male sports or fitness situations - joining a YMCA, or other type of fitness club, or amateur sports league often gives a guy (CM or NM) a chance to interact with other males in clothed or naked situations. Obviously, there may not be any overt sexual behavior but it can nevertheless be highly stimulating.

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I had to pull my t-shirt down over the front to conceal what could have been a eyeful of my semi-freeballing. The next day he came running up to me again and wanted to measure me again -- he thought he might have made a mistake so it surely did get me to questioning his motives. For now, I will assume he has only my "cross-cultural" education at heart and nothing else. I do have to say that it will be interesting if he wants to teach me how to wear a fundoshi next! There are a few different types of 'fundoshi' style (Japanese loincloths). I guess you might say they are more like "freebutting" instead of freeballing, but what the hell, I think they look pretty cool. This photo above shows a guy's full body tatoo (irezumi) -- still quite popular with a certain segment of the Japanese -- it was strongly associated with gangsters (yakuza) but less so nowadays.
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Notice the twisted rope effect in the crack of his fundoshi -- wonder what that feels like -- maybe it helps keeps his semi-hard so that the spectators can enjoy the festival "show" even more. You can see different lengths of "happi" coats in this pic-- so the fundoshi is not really meant to be covered up -- although it can serve as underwear -- it is more like a 400 year old Japanese Speedo bikini or gym shorts.
 
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The traditional kimono, which is really as formal nowadays as a tuxedo and not worn very often at all, does not work out very well for freeballing -- mainly because it is worn for ceremonial events and people are not likely to move around much. The kimono is also worn tightly bound and can have several undergarments and belts (obi) so that it is not likely to come open. Damn, it must even be difficult to take a leak or squat to use the bathroom. However, the yukata is quite a bit different. It is a casual summer kimono-like one piece outfit -- typically worn for festivals and as night wear / indoor wear at hotsprings resorts and fine hotels.


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Traditionally, Japanese men (and there are some people who do still) wear the yukata and its shorter version (the happi coat) as casual wear -- although mostly it is only during the summer and fall festivals, but a few for daily wear especially during the hot humid summer season. Under the yukata -- and sometimes ONLY without even the yukata-- is worn the traditional Japanese loincloth called the "fundoshi." It is not exactly underwear because it can be worn as swimwear or beach wear, as festival gear, and as an undergarment for a yukata (or kimono). Normally, only men wear a fundoshi, but some guys think it is very sexy for women to wear them .. so you sometimes see women in porno wearing a fundoshi. Fundoshi is not really about freeballing -- it is a wrap that curls up from behind and under and can even tightly bind your balls, but it certainly does not leave much to the imagination once in place.


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There are a couple of styles - -the one for festivals is often twisted into a knotty rope like a thong and rides up the crack of your ass. Other style leave a hanging cover of the front so it's a bit hard to see the guy's encased mound of cock and balls, but this flying droop moves and floats around so you do get a view sometimes. I'm not Japanese and don't have much chance to wear a yukata or fundoshi, but I have an acquaintance in Japan who has been after me to try them. He is a Buddhist priest who is about 35, married with two small children. The place I stay is just next door to the temple so he invariably invites me over when he knows I am in Japan. Perhaps he is just trying to be nice by introducing me to traditional Japanese culture -- Japanese are not very big on evangelical Buddhism (although I hear it does exist). On a recent trip to Tokyo, he insisted on measuring me for a yukata and told me he would have onr made for me and then show me how to wear it and we would go to a fireworks festival wearing a yukata. While he was measuring me, he got down on his knees in front of me (apparently in total innocence) but it sure made me wonder. He first had me pull off my trousers and then he measured about my waist and hips while I standing there in a bare of almost mesh semi see-thru boxers.
 
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Some types of clothing and certain social situations seem to invite CMNM
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(clothed male / naked male) and probably just as often CFNM (clothed female / naked male) behavior. It's not too surprising that one of those types of clothing is the kilt. Still, there are several other kinds of male attire that sometimes offer the opportunity for spontaneous partially nudity, at time under the guise of freeballing, such include boardshorts, ethnic or traditional clothing (the 'kilt' is a Western invention for covering male anatomy), but there are other forms of masculine clothes from Asian, the Middle East, Africa, and Oceania that perform similar functions and which offer similar glimpses.
Here are some recent photos from social events where guys were wearing kilts.

It always seems that whenever some guy is wearing a kilt -- whether formal or informal, he seems to get a lot of attention directed toward what's under the kilt. By the way, it appears that his male buddies are just as fascinated by what he's wearing and what he's not as his women friends are.
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Cross-cultural Perspective on Freeballing



I wonder how many other national costumes or traditional clothes allow for freeballing? I've spent a lot of time in Japan and a few other countries where the national costume -- kimono or yukata (light summer informal kimono with fundoshi (loin cloth)) (at least it remains one of the traditional ways that some people dress --especialy for festivals or typical Japanese cultural events) does make freeballing sort of accepted. As I said in an earlier post (Scottish singer in a kilt), I wonder how many national / native or traditional costumes make it easy (or not) to freeball and perhaps to catch a glimpse. We've seen that many guys wearing kilts do not have anything on underneath. I have lived at times in Japan and still have strong connections to it. I find the kimono and in particular the yukata give a great opportunity to freeball.



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I also wonder if you're referring to the Gay Historical Photos group that got deleted several times by Yahoo before finding its home on Google? If so, it's the one I mention quite often:
http://groups.google.com/group/historical-pictoral


I couldn't sign up to zavarot even if I wanted to - my lack of Russian wouldn't
enable me to. It seems that the pics with a sexual theme are available only
to members. However it also seems that zavarot have decided that nudist pics
are not sexual in nature and can be viewed by anyone.
http://www.zavorot.com/today?page=1


atitlan

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---------- The above post was forwarded in a group message ----------
From: Charles Date: Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:39 AM
on the Yahoo Group [ymna2]


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Here is an oddly erotic 'real' CMNM scene - the pic and situation are described the poster and commented upon by atitlan, founder of the Yahoo / Google groups: YMNA, ymna2


So glad the Painted Ons of Yesteryear were well received. Went over to Shorpy's to play again yesterday afternoon, but didn't find much in the way of nude males, aside from this one in the World War ll album. Only one, but what a gem. I love the expression on the young guy making the "eye
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contact".And some of the comments are hilarious. One guy says "Trust the marines to make you strip naked to take an eye exam!"





I used to belong to a group that specialized in vinatge "gay" pics - not specifically beefcake, but gay images from everyday life, including swimming, army and even drag themes. Real vintage stuff, way before the fifties. Not sure how I lost track of that one. Does anyone know if there's still a yahoogroup around like that.
Atitlan, did you have to sign up at www.zavarot.com to be able to view the pics you post at ymna@? Sometimes the nude photos don't seem to be available to casual visitors. I don't understand Russian, but I gather there's some sort of membership category. Is it easy to sign up?


REPLY: It's a splendid picture, isn't it? I've seen it a few times before but never in such a large size and high resolution. It's curious that the military examiners did require the recruits to strip naked and stay that way - usually they allowed them to keep on their shorts. I wonder if the crossed legs of the guy who's
staring might be his unconscious way of saying "I can't compare"?!

 
True, it may cause a few of the men to long for some deeper or intimate affection with this naked guy who is 'on display' or for other members of the gang, but it is not sexual in the raw and basic sense of the word. Therefore, the spector of homoerotic stimulation always lies at the edges of the barrier between acceptable and unacceptable behavior (or thoughts) when a group of men who relate well gets together -- without the social pressures that tend to suppress freedom of individual expression - especially of behaviors or thoughts that are sexually motivated or erotically appealing.
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The photo of the guy spreading his legs just above is one of this blog's author.​
 

[ An academic -type blog post - still in progress - more to be added later]
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[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]Clothed males who revel in the self-acclaiming, social-norm-defying nudity of one of their members may not be, necessarily, a universal male-oriented [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]behavior among all cultures. However, it is a fairly common phenomenon. The photo above highlights the apparent delight that this group of Japanese men are experiencing by seeing one of their guys - get up and show his genitals. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT="times new roman"][FONT=&quot]They are probably either regular businessmen or factory workers on a retreat or a set of club members or teammates who are relaxing after the day's events (moto-cross races, mountain biking or birdwatching.. whatever). [/FONT][/FONT]
This is NOT sexually explicit behavior by any stretch of the imagination. But why do they have such glee in the eyes? It is my theory that the act of nudity itself is a self-affirming (virtually symbolic) act that all the men are enjoying vicariously.
 
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G[FONT="arial"][FONT=&quot]eminiguy13 is a reader and fellow CMNM enthusiast, who has a gift for expressing himself eloquently about the psychological and intellectual issues embedded in the reality of male sexuality. Check out an earlier response from him below (Feb 2 post).[/FONT][/FONT]
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I read with great interest and enthusiasm your latest entry on the CMNM blog. I have to agree with you that craving a 'skinship' relationship with other men is oftentimes more a CMNM experience rather than a sexual one. I am speaking from personal experience, now that I am able to put a name (CMNM) to it. Before realizing the existence of this phenomenon, I too thought it was my libido talking. But, now, at this (slightly) later point in my life, I am searching for a deeper, more intellectual approach to sensuality. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed some good sex over the years. If I may be more blunt, as I feel I can due to the honest tone of our communications, I have fucked countless guys (and have been fucked by them as well), sucked my share of some great cocks (and received blow-jobs as well), and live to tell the story!!! However, being the undraped guy in a room full of dressed dudes (even if it's just one) is the epitome of erotic surrender. I am strictly an indoors kind of fellow, so revealing my manhood in an intimate setting to a fully dressed man, making sure I put him at ease, whether we have a drink, watch a little telly, or just spend the time bullshitting: This is my idea of sexual intercourse! Well, I hope I'm not rambling, but I do hope that with increased awareness and consciousness, the word will spread and more and more guys will become more enlightened by the age-old CMNM lifestyle. I look forward to the next installment! Cheers, the Gemini
 
Anyway.. thanks for getting in touch.
Let me know what you think when you have a chance,
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Being tangential (or at least distantly related) to the topic isn't a problem that you need apologize for, KF.
I am not a stickler for decorum. It's the substance of the message that is most important, and I also appreciate your responses for exactly that reason: You take time to write something worth reading.


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I certainly agree that the casual or incidental nudity that is prevalent in Japan (more so in the past and in some regions) does satisfy the basic 'human urge' or instinct to be naked with one's fellow man (or woman - as the case may be).
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The ritual of bathing (for cleansing the body and soothing the spirit), and formerly doing so in a shared social experience ('public bath and onsen') have deeply affected the evolution of the Japanese psyche. It's worth studying in much more detail and breadth than I can do it justice here.
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However, I think there are much more profound and deeply cultural reasons why Japanese (and other Asian) countries don't practice nudism to the same extent that it seems to be awed and revered in the West. Religion (or deeply ingrained moral tenets or ethical practices - since Japan's 'religions' are actually difficult to categorize as such) plays a huge role.


For the West, one absolutely has to remember how much nudity and, by association - sexuality are also reviled by the puritanical elements, the strongly socially conservative and morally 'righteous' Christian right (which still holds a strong influence on the American psyche (and politics - e.g. the Tea Baggers (Bachmann's Tea Party)


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- who view the human body (particularly a nude one) as the devil's temptation to sin and depravity. While few people would admit to agreeing with that outright, that basic underlying sentiment pervades a lot of North American societal consciousness and certainly affected for a very long time the prohibition on sex, nudity, and particularly homosexuality in American society. It is similar but to less pervasive extent in European civilization too, owing to the massive influence of the Catholic Church.
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So... I'm way off topic... (or not)...


Just answer question (on topic):


Would you ever participate in a gay men's social club activities off-line?


(Explain why or why not?)


I'm trying to gauge whether it is worth the effort to attempt to organize one. (Or as I might suspect, are people (gay men) already 'organized / disorganized' in their own private social networks, and incapable reaching out to take a more public stance or put on a public face.


(Perhaps I've already answered my own question... but I'd still love to hear what you (and others) have to say about this idea.)
Ciao,


Kelly (sunbuns)


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I think I've become more 'open' to doing something like this because of the repeal of DADT (the former rule / policy) in the US military.


I was never in the military but I certainly understood how the 'policy' made them feel. Much of life in Japan is still under an even more inhumane DADT policy - at least in my own existence.


I believe now that more US servicemen stationed in Japan may be willing to participate, and particularly those who want to get off base and mix with the Japanese male community.
Besides, we all know the appeal of men in uniform who take it all off. Whoa! (smile).
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I also posted the notice on GNJ and Fridae (or will do so) - two other sites, but my Japanese is not good enough to find and then post the whole announcement on Japanese language sites where more locals are likely to see it. It might not go over well in the Japanese gay community for the simple fact that nudism is common - at least, as a 'hobby' or recreational activity. Obviously, onsen (hot springs) involve some different levels of nudity, and public baths used to be very very common (although that has changed greatly).
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I'm not only thinking about nudity. While I enjoy the outdoors very much (whether I am naked or not), but I also enjoy the arts and politics, good food and wine.


Maybe the idea of a International Gay Men's Social Club ... or a All-Male Chorus might work out better.


Instead of simply being a very specific interest - nudism, maybe the purpose of the club should be larger: men's issues or a gay men's social club. In some US and other cities worldwide, there are gay men's groups that have some special function besides just 'meeting to meet', notably are the Men's Chorus groups in several major American and Canadian cities. There are also gay men's art, theatre, and sporting groups as well.


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Obviously, a social justice or environmental cause can attract gay men (as well as other subgroups in society), such as the World Naked Bike Ride (WNBR groups) that spring up every year in June and October (North and South hemispheres).


So if the purpose of the group were broadened, then there could be certain chapters for the location or type of activity, (such as naked outings or nude dinners), and even special interest groups (nudism, CMNM, wine tasting), or the various group could combine their activities for parties, fairs, visits to the theater, movies or art exhibits - where like-minded men (Japanese and all others) can mingle and get to know each other.
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Does this sound like pie in the sky? Do you think it could work and maybe there is no real need for such a men's club oriented for M4M. I realize most people have their own friends, lovers, sex buddies and LTR but I also know many do not, or cannot easily make other gay male friends. Some guys are sure they are even gay and need a place and some people to talk about it.
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I have noticed already that there seems to be a sudden swell in the number of US military men who are getting online (in Japan) and probably coming out more to the gay bars. Clearly, there should be alternatives to staying out drinking late at night for men (and not just gay men). This type of organization may be more possible today now than it was prior to Sept 21 - when 'don't ask, don't tell' ended for all US military personnel.
 
Thanks in advance for answering and for possibly joining our soon-to-be-formed social club (its name is not decided).
Dare to stay bare for those who care...
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Anyone else interested or who has knowledge of good places to be naked outdoors?


I've yet to put up any such announcement on GNJ. You're welcome to advertise it -- as appropriate and give me as a contact.
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Somehow it seemed more urgent to do it here since (as you noted), we never know who and how many of this site's members will be returning to the new one.


Anyone else who is interested in knowing about or in possibly joining our group can also reach me directly at:
sunbunz (at) gmail.com


I was tentatively hoping to hold an initial meeting in October (Sunday, the 2nd of Oct.), but nothing is definite. I have a friend visiting from Kyushu who would love to get naked, too. So any meeting may turn out to be much later (or not at all). Still.. we can only try and see.
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I think I've become more 'open' to doing something like this because of the repeal of DADT (the former rule / policy) in the US military.


I was never in the military but I certainly understood how the 'policy' made them feel. Much of life in Japan is still under an even more inhumane DADT policy - at least in my own existence.


I believe now that more US servicemen stationed in Japan may be willing to participate, and particularly those who want to get off base and mix with the Japanese male community.
Besides, we all know the appeal of men in uniform who take it all off. Whoa! (smile).
​

I also posted the notice on GNJ and Fridae (or will do so) - two other sites, but my Japanese is not good enough to find and then post the whole announcement on Japanese language sites where more locals are likely to see it. It might not go over well in the Japanese gay community for the simple fact that nudism is common - at least, as a 'hobby' or recreational activity. Obviously, onsen (hot springs) involve some different levels of nudity, and public baths used to be very very common (although that has changed greatly).
​

I'm not only thinking about nudity. While I enjoy the outdoors very much (whether I am naked or not), but I also enjoy the arts and politics, good food and wine.


Maybe the idea of a International Gay Men's Social Club ... or a All-Male Chorus might work out better.


Instead of simply being a very specific interest - nudism, maybe the purpose of the club should be larger: men's issues or a gay men's social club. In some US and other cities worldwide, there are gay men's groups that have some special function besides just 'meeting to meet', notably are the Men's Chorus groups in several major American and Canadian cities. There are also gay men's art, theatre, and sporting groups as well.
 
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Do you participate in any organized nudist
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or naturist clubs or nude men's groups events in your area/city?


Hello Jguys / US guys and of course Worldguys,


This site is evidently shutting down or greatly changing in a short time. I thought it necessary to try to connect off-line with some of the members who may be interested in a gay men's social club, especially one where social events involving nudity can occur.
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So I am trying to start a regular international social club for nudist and naturist men (gay, straight, bi and curious) living or traveling in the Tokyo area. First of all, one may already (in Japanese - exclusively for Japanese men) but that won't help those who enjoy relating with other internationally minded guys, or who can't speak Japanese (such as newcomers and visitors).


Still, if you know how to contact any such group in Tokyo (or nearby), please let me know.
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If you are interested in participating by attending, volunteering, and sponsoring or hosting an event for the new men's nudist social club, then please contact me here or on one of the following: My Twitter account is the same name and I'm also on Tribe.net, Adam4Adam, Dudesnude, JguysUSguys, and HangoutNude (other ids are: sunbuns99 or seefallus or hardtwoholed (Yahoo!)
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My contact is: sunbunz on Google mail for direct email messages.



もちろん俺たちは日本語が少しできますので、遠慮しないで下さい。


　We would make daytrips to hot springs resorts and take evening visits to Tokyo city spas, hold pot luck dinners, and game or movie nights, and from time to time hold outdoors picnics and excursions to the few limited nude beaches or other naturist areas nearby.

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I certainly agree that the casual or incidental nudity that is prevalent in Japan (more so in the past and in some regions) does satisfy the basic 'human urge' or instinct to be naked with one's fellow man (or woman - as the case may be).

The ritual of bathing (for cleansing the body and soothing the spirit), and formerly doing so in a shared social experience ('public bath and onsen') have deeply affected the evolution of the Japanese psyche. It's worth studying in much more detail and breadth than I can do it justice here.

However, I think there are much more profound and deeply cultural reasons why Japanese (and other Asian) countries don't practice nudism to the same extent that it seems to be awed and revered in the West. Religion (or deeply ingrained moral tenets or ethical practices - since Japan's 'religions' are actually difficult to categorize as such) plays a huge role.



For the West, one absolutely has to remember how much nudity and, by association - sexuality are also reviled by the puritanical elements, the strongly socially conservative and morally 'righteous' Christian right (which still holds a strong influence on the American psyche (and politics - e.g. the Tea Baggers (Bachmann's Tea Party) - who view the human body (particularly a nude one) as the devil's temptation to sin and depravity. While few people would admit to agreeing with that outright, that basic underlying sentiment pervades a lot of North American societal consciousness and certainly affected for a very long time the prohibition on sex, nudity, and particularly homosexuality in American society.
It is similar but to less pervasive extent in European civilization too, owing to the massive influence of the Catholic Church.

So... I'm way off topic... (or not)...


Just answer question (on topic):


Would you ever participate in a gay men's social club activities off-line?


(Explain why or why not?)

I'm trying to gauge whether it is worth the effort to attempt to organize one. (Or as I might suspect, are people (gay men) already 'organized / disorganized' in their own private social networks, and incapable reaching out to take a more public stance or put on a public face.


(Perhaps I've already answered my own question... but I'd still love to hear what you (and others) have to say about this idea.)
Ciao,
Kelly (sunbuns)




 
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Great to hear you're interested, Paul and Cail.
Well.. that's 3 people so far. I'm hoping more will speak up.
Unfortunately, JguyUSguy will be shutting down before long (although it may return in reduced form).

I also posted the notice on GNJ and Fridae (or will do so) - two other sites, but my Japanese is not good enough to find and then post the whole announcement on Japanese language sites where more locals are likely to see it. It might not go over well in the Japanese gay community for the simple fact that nudism is common - at least, as a 'hobby' or recreational activity. Obviously, onsen (hot springs) involve some different levels of nudity, and public baths used to be very very common (although that has changed greatly).

I'm not only thinking about nudity. While I enjoy the outdoors very much (whether I am naked or not), but I also enjoy the arts and politics, good food and wine.


Maybe the idea of a International Gay Men's Social Club ... or a All-Male Chorus might work out better.

Instead of simply being a very specific interest - nudism, maybe the purpose of the club should be larger: men's issues or a gay men's social club. In some US and other cities worldwide, there are gay men's groups that have some special function besides just 'meeting to meet',
notably are the Men's Chorus groups in several major American and Canadian cities. There are also gay men's art, theatre, and sporting groups as well.

Obviously, a social justice or environmental cause can attract gay men (as well as other subgroups in society), such as the World Naked Bike Ride (WNBR groups) that spring up every year in June and October (North and South hemispheres).




So if the purpose of the group were broadened, then there could be certain chapters for the location or type of activity, (such as naked outings or nude dinners), and even special interest groups (nudism, CMNM, wine tasting), or the various group could combine their activities for parties, fairs, visits to the theater, movies or art exhibits - where like-minded men (Japanese and all others) can mingle and get to know each other.

Does this sound like pie in the sky? Do you think it could work and maybe there is no real need for such a men's club oriented for M4M.
I realize most people have their own friends, lovers, sex buddies and LTR but I also know many do not, or cannot easily make other gay male friends. Some guys are sure they are even gay and need a place and some people to talk about it.

I have noticed already that there seems to be a sudden swell in the number of US military men who are getting online (in Japan) and probably coming out more to the gay bars. Clearly, there should be alternatives to staying out drinking late at night for men (and not just gay men).
This type of organization may be more possible today now than it was prior to Sept 21 - when 'don't ask, don't tell' ended for all US military personnel.


Anyway.. thanks for getting in touch.
Let me know what you think when you have a chance,

Anyone can contact me via email at sunbunz (@) gmail.com


Kelly


Being tangential (or at least distantly related) to the topic isn't a problem that you need apologize for, KF.
I am not a stickler for decorum. It's the substance of the message that is most important, and I also appreciate your responses for exactly that reason: You take time to write something worth reading.
 
There are no fees to participate or to join the club. Sexual behavior is NOT the norm. It is NOT a sex club, but sex might be allowed as a 'special activity' for certain designated events or situations. It would up to the members to decide if or when sexual behavior would be allowed (or not) - the location and make-up of the participants would certainly determine what's likely to be decided.
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Thanks in advance for answering and for possibly joining our soon-to-be-formed social club (its name is not decided).
Dare to stay bare for those who care...
Kelly (sunbuns), Tokyo, Japan
Anyone else?


I've yet to put up any such announcement on GNJ. You're welcome to advertise it -- as appropriate and give me as a contact.
Somehow it seemed more urgent to do it here since (as you noted), we never know who and how many of this site's members will be returning to the new one.

Anyone else who is interested in knowing ore or in possibly joining our group can also reach me directly at:


sunbunz (at) gmail.com


I was tentatively hoping to hold an initial meeting in October (Sunday, the 2nd of Oct.), but nothing is definite.
I have a friend visiting from Kyushu who would love to get naked, too. So any meeting may turn out to be much later (or not at all). Still.. we can only try and see.


I think I've become more 'open' to doing something like this because of the repeal of DADT (the former rule / policy) in the US military.
I was never in the military but I certainly understood how the 'policy' made them feel. Much of life in Japan is still under an even more inhumane DADT policy - at least in my own existence.
I believe now that more US servicemen stationed in Japan may be willing to participate, and particularly those who want to get off base and mix with the Japanese male community.
Besides, we all know the appeal of men in uniform who take it all off. Whoa! (smile).


Ciao,
Kelly
 
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Do you participate in any organized nudist or naturist clubs or nude men's groups events in your area/city?


Hello Jguys / US guys and of course Worldguys,

This site is evidently shutting down or greatly changing in a short time. I thought it necessary to try to connect off-line with some of the members who may be interested in a gay men's social club, especially one where social events involving nudity can occur.

So I am trying to start a regular international social club for nudist and naturist men (gay, straight, bi and curious) living or traveling in the Tokyo area. First of all, one may already (in Japanese - exclusively for Japanese men) but that won't help those who enjoy relating with other internationally minded guys, or who can't speak Japanese (such as newcomers and visitors).
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Still, if you know how to contact any such group in Tokyo (or nearby), please let me know.
If you are interested in participating by attending, volunteering, and sponsoring or hosting an event for the new men's nudist social club, then please contact me here or on one of the following: My Twitter account is the same name and I'm also on Tribe.net, Adam4Adam, Dudesnude, JguysUSguys, and HangoutNude (other ids are: sunbuns99 or seefallus or hardtwoholed (Yahoo!)


My contact is: sunbunz on Google mail for direct email messages.
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もちろん俺たちは日本語が少しできますので、遠慮しないで下さい。


　We would make daytrips to hot springs resorts and take evening visits to Tokyo city spas, hold pot luck dinners, and game or movie nights, and from time to time hold


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outdoors picnics and excursions to the few limited nude beaches or other naturist areas nearby.
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Visitors from out of town could also be welcome to attend as guests through an invitation of current members. Fees for spa or bath entrances, transport, and food, drinks, etc are to born by each individual.
 
I'm turned a bit to the left but I can him clearly when I look to my right. I've done this before but never pulled my pants all the way down until recently. Earlier, I was taking a piss (or pretending too).
So twice recently.. when I knew nobody else was approaching either direction .. I've pulled down my pants and starting jerking my cock (not hard in this 'staged' recreation of the scene).

There should be no doubt that he can see me in this peripheral vision but he's TOO damned chicken or just not going to give me the pleasure knowing he's looking. He's smart - not a smart-alec and he's not looking for a confrontation but he's not looking to see 'dick' if he can help it either.

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I know it's pretty stupid (fruitless is a better word LOL) -maybe useless to try to keep flashing this guy (if you can call it that). But the challenge just seems to be increasing my feelings of urgency. This time after he went by without so much as a smile or frown/scowl or side glance... I had to go deeper off the main road and beat off til I came. Is this going to lead to me trying to go to greater lengths to get the guy to look? I think the attraction is that I sort of 'feel' like I know him -- ridiculous idea (I know) but at least we recognize each other.

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Sometimes he almost can't help it if I suddenly meet him coming around a corner but it's risky to be 'showing' more than just wearing see-thru mesh - because mothers with school children, old ladies and men heading to their office job are equally likely to suddenly appear around the same corners.
I know he does look my way at times .. but it's only when I'm 20-50 meters away. There is a large plaza (paved area) along the main road, where we sometimes cross paths at a much great distance. It is at times like that when I have my zipper down and my cock partly exposed. I notice then that he 'seems' to take a brief look .. but if I'm too close.. he averts his eyes or even turns his head.




What do you think? It's not much of a flashing experience - but it's the most 'real' flashing I've ever done (not counting nude beaches and CMNM with male strangers in hostels/campsites). He's got to know that I'm 'beating off' for him, but he's closed to the idea.See what I mean ... in a posting
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(original from May 10) cygnus wants to find a place to flash in Holland. Of course, there are many more people of Asian origin in most European cities than you would find Non-Asians (caucasians) in major cities of the country where I live.


Look how he described himself "I am skinny asian boy" (a very cute one from the looks of his attached photo ), but does being a racial minority have an effect on us wanting to be a flasher (or to expose ourselves). I would say deep down psychologically it does.


We' re not talking about simply travelling to a country that has a very different ethnicity as your own. But actually living, working and becoming immersed in the language, culture and daily life for a long period of time - (few to many years) might prompt extreme minority members to crave acceptance beyond the 'normal' channels.


I noticed some str8 flasher on the other discussion forum on this site who fit this profile. I'll need a shrink to help me explain it or explore the ideas within myself - but others may have some insight to share.



So does this strike a harmonic chord with anybody else who is a would-be flasher / exhibitionist and who is also in a racial minority in the country of residence where you live and work?
 

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For nearly two years (very infrequently - off and on), I have tried to get a younger man (about 23-27) who rides to work on his bicycle through the cemetery to notice my peekaboo flashing (see thru, hole-riddled jeans, and mesh clothes). He's not ever really taken the bait and generally turns his head or avert his eyes - if we're too close - so that he can't be 'accused' of looking. I am pretty positive he knows what I'm up to ... a few times a month I make a sudden appearance on his route - sometimes with my zipper down or sometimes,
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during the warmer months, wearing a pair of mesh shorts with my shirt tucked in just for him to see my pale cock wiggle from side-to-side as I walk by him.

If he were so disgusted or fearful (of being stalked), he could easily find another path to his work (I think he's working at a small commercial airport not too far away) because I meet him usually (once a week or so) around 7:00am and he returns about home the same route in mid-afternoon. Wednesdays are his day off so he works on Saturdays as well.
Things have gotten more daring on my part this month.




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"I am skinny asian boy" (a very cute one from the looks of his attached photo ), so I am wondering if being a member of a racial minority may have an effect on wanting to be a flasher (or to expose ourselves).


I would say deep down psychologically it does.




We' re not talking about simply travelling to a country that has a very different ethnicity as your own. But actually living, working and becoming immersed in the language, culture and daily life for a long period of time - (few to many years) might prompt extreme minority members to crave acceptance beyond the 'normal' channels.



I noticed some str8 flasher on the other discussion forum on this site who fit this profile.

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So does this strike a harmonic chord with anybody else who is a would-be flasher / exhibitionist and who is also in a racial minority in the country of residence where you live and work?

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Recently I've gotten
more bold.. like this morning. From the road, he would see

me something like this (photo attached). I realize it's very tame by comparison

(to other's extreme flashing - but HEY!.. we are NOT all made or built the same,

right?)



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I'm standing in a pathway between grave plots about 7 meters from
the main road that runs through the cemetery. It's a straight wide (private) road with no thru vehicle traffic - so I only have to be careful about pedestrians and bicyclists going east/west. Before taking up my position just off the road, I scout out down the road to see if he's approaching and then take up my position (like the photo).
 
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To make a long story much much shorter, I would get drunk and start removed my clothes. Eventually, I would end up inebriated and either passed out or asleep and naked. Along the way, we would be playing the typical games and antics -- along with just some plain old full. Although was surely attracted to the men around, I had not actually ever had sex with a guy (except for one furtive blow job with another anonymous (and faceless) student in my university library back home. These photos - some of them - bring back memories. Others certainly conjure up fantasies. Some times I wonder how many of today's university & frat parties are just precursory semi-erotic experiences for younger guys who will later (or not) affectionately recall their naked antics in college life when they reach middle age.










-----Photo were contained in a f orwarded message ------ From: Erikag59 on his CMNM google group ------
 
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