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All over of the world and particularly during the college-age years when drinking alcohol seems to, de rigeur, have been consumed. Later, these friends join clubs, fraternities, or just set up their own parties, where alcohol is the elixir of male camaraderie - which begats a whole new set of 'naked' antics. It is currently that time of year in Japan (the beginning of the school year - at colleges and universities nationwide), and since it is Easter, it's also in close proximity preceding or following Spring Break for many other campus communities worldwide.
become the required form of activity in achieving social acceptance - especially in groups of male friends who have just become acquainted, the clothes come off after several bottles of bee


Thanks to Erikag59 for sending out these photos to remind us of how nudity figures into the male culture of student university life. I'm sure many of you have similar experiences. Write in and tell us about When I was that age, I had a stark revelation -in both the meanings of the word.
My strict Protestant parents had forbid me to drink (smoke, dance, play cards or have premarital sex too - of course - religion was a package deal for them -- all or nothing - intended to prevent one from sinning (LOL). Fortunately, that helped me avoid or curb most of the seven deadly sins, but it also stifled my social development to some degree as a high school teen.


Anyway, I dreamed of escaping these 'moral' restrictions. During my Freshmen and sophomore yearslimonade as they called it there. ) It was delicious and slightly 'dangerous' and made a nice buzz. Later, I graduated to red wine and started attending (and helping organize) parties along with my new found French friends, and also other American / British students who were also studying as exchange students at the Faculte de Lettres (College of Humanities (Literature, Languages, and Arts).
at the local state university, I lived at home, studied a lot and also worked part-time, so I was well behaved in their eyes. But when the opportunity to study abroad came up, I jumped at the chance to participate in the Junior Year Abroad program, choosing to spend 10 months at a university in southern France. Sure enough, one of the first memories is having an alcoholic drink (chantilly -a simple beer cocktail (draft beer mixed half & half with Seven-Up (or
 
Other ideas:
1) Start freeballing - that way you'll already be half naked. Your roommate will get used to seeing your cock, balls and butt if you undress where he can see.
2) If he's too uptight, he'll keep looking away or even ask you to dress in your own room. They will give you clues about how to proceed.



3) If this avoidance behavior persists, especially if he mentions it or draws some attention to it (like leaving the room), you could confront him about his being too uptight or too restrictive on your own personal freedom. 4) If he jokes about it, then you could also joke back with him.. 'Try it out, you might like it'. Just be upfront (and clever).. " seeing me naked doesn't bother you, does it?" How would he answer that but say 'No, not at all."
5) Start a new activity that involves him and you -- and the possibility of nudity - swimming for fitness, gym, fitness club, yoga, weekend sports, jogging, weekend trips or day time outing to the lake, beach, etc.
6) Always sleep in the nude so it won't be strange for you to be naked in and around your bedroom, also when you and he get to do some overnight trips or camping, etc.

7) Get a friend (or a bunch of them) who are nudists (or who like being naked or doing naked stuff) and whom you visit or go out with - taking your roommate along. These friends can invite you and your roomie to get naked. Whether he's gay or straight or maybe better when he's with a woman around, the 'pressure' of your friend's request might help him to break down the barriers so he'll actually get nude too. At least, you can accept your nudist friend's invitation - so you'll be naked in front of your roomie.
8) Have a party! Alcohol seems to be a great excuse for getting rid of clothes and inhibitions. Costume or themes parties can make it easier since invitees are already out of their regular attire anyway. Or plan special party games that require the removal of clothes - sometimes a necessity if things get wet.

9) Dare and double-dares will some work -- especially if the other person just needs a good challenge (or a safe excuse) for getting naked.


Below are some additional suggestions offered by others.

on Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:25 am
Well, with a roommate situation, it can be pretty easy. Just walk from the shower to your room naked. Or, even though you know your roommate is coming home, pretend you didn't and while your naked say something like, "oh sorry, was doing laundry and didn't know you were coming home." Then gauge his reaction. But with others you know, it might be harder to set up an "innocent" situation. If you're looking to arrange something with strangers, craigslist.org is a good place to post. ----------

on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:38 pm
Here's one approach I've used with a new roommate. First, tell them I like to sleep naked. Second, go to the fridge for a drink (or something else you take at bedtime). Go to the fridge naked while he's watching TV or doing some other passive activity--and say something along the way to him, like "Is that movie worth seeing?". After that you'll have some more opportunities to be naked in various situations and (in my experience) he'll eventually follow suit. Whether it leads to sex is more a matter of agreement between the two of you, though a compliment on his "equipment" might foster some action. by Grubernowski

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Please add your own ideas / suggestions as a comment.


 

Tactics for setting the right environment for CMNM and for setting up the sitution with a roommate:




If you going to be living with this roommate a while, there are some ways I can suggest that you can try to set-up CMNM. More than likely you'll just be to getting him and - more likely - yourself) to being nude at certain times when you're together at home. These initial times should be when you are both at ease and relaxed, and then these opportunities can later start get more frequent and perhaps more daring.




Try to come up with natural, unforced occasions when you can get naked in his presence or at least allow him to see you nude. Changing for bed or getting into the shower. In some case, there may be things you can do outside of the apartment/house where nudity would be expected - such as changing at the pool or in a locker room - so that you've seen in other naked where it is expected and inconsequential.





For things to move beyond just such occasional glimpes, you may have to 'set up' some of these
situations -- if it's something that's not been any part of your style of living.
- Such a 'set-up' might be forgetting something like a towel or wash cloth when you're in the shower, or running out of soap or shampoo and having to come out to get some (or one that you just bought but 'forget' to bring with you.
- Use your cellphone to ring (set up the alarm to ring) while you're in the tube and you rush out of the bathroom naked "not knowing he was there" story to grab your phone.



Let him catch you naked a few times innocently.
If you are now walking through the house/apartment nude, then it might seem strange to just start doing so.
So you first have to get him used to seeing you in various states of undress.
Start by coming out with no shirt or lounging around only in your boxes or athletic shorts. Later try to set up more 'naked' situations where he catches you naturally for longer than just a quick glimpse and with more visible exposure of your body and genitals. Be sure to intersperse brief innocent exposures with the longer ones - you don't want to raise anxiety by him beginning to think you are targeting him. Also, it would work best if he's also the naked one at times.
This might be his knocking on your bedroom door (to get something you borrowed or that you share - cordless phone, vacuum cleaner, etc) and then him seeing you naked when you casually answer (call him in ) or even open the door. If you have separate bedrooms and you're nude doing something like trying to untie some knotted shoelaces (and you may have the stereo/TV on) or headphones on (so you can't him knock), it appears totally nature and casual for you both.

Talking about sexuality and the male body

It may be helpful - not only for your friendship with your roommates - but also as a way to get everyone in the the living environment used to commenting on (or even discussions) of the human body (male and female), being male, and acknowledgement of sexual urges and needs. You don't have to describe in exquisite details your own sexual exploits all at once, but at least , you should be able to talk about the basic nature of human sexual needs. The topic surely comes up - -if not from you, then through the media.


References to sexual things often come up in movies and TV sitcoms, even news events, and from other friends, so you or your roommate can offer your own comments, opinions or experiences. "Boy, do I know what he's talking about there." It helps to make the other person feel comfortable knowing that you're willing to express yourself on sexual topics.
This assumes that you're already watching TV or videos together. If you're not even spending that much time together or conversing, it's not going to be so easy to share a nude/clothed lifestyle together.
 

[This topic was first brought up on a forum by someone who also posted the same question,)
Is there any way to go about setting up a CMNM (or, for that matter, just plain
NM) scenario with guys you know--without freaking them out? I know a guy or two I might like to have such a scenario with (maybe with some touching or contact but not necessarily any sex), but I don't know how to actually go about approaching the issue in such a way that I don't inadvertently transgress any of their personal boundaries and/or make them uncomfortable.
Like, my roommate, for example. I'd like to be naked around him or with him, but I can't very well say "Hey, dude, can we hang out naked sometime?" That might really weird him out. But, if there were the potential for him to be open to it, it would be something I'd want to do. But, I don't know how to approach the issue at all. I don't how to approach it in a way that I could find out if he'd be open to it without simultaneously risking offending him or making him uncomfortable. Any thoughts?

It's partly going to be 'hard' (lol) for you to pull off (no pun) this scenario if you are not willing to be naked yourself. What I'm saying is -- if you have already been living with roommates and you've not had even any chance for them to see you naked (except just an accidental glimpse) then it probably means that 'nudity' is not (yet) a acceptable part of your 'household' lifestyle or relationship. In order for it to 'happen', you probably need something pretty radical or unusual to cause a change in the status quo. Examples might be: a new roommate (adding another) or exchanging one, or your moving out and finding different roommates- -more accepting or adventurous ones. If that's not an option or you do have an inkling he might be 'ready' and then you shouldn't give up. You can bring 'egg' him along by subtlely and sometimes more drastically forcing the issue and get your naked body seen and maybe his along with it.

By the way, nUdity / cLOthed situations don't have to happen with ONLY people you know -- there are many other kinds of situations so instead of beating a dead horse (lol).. perhaps you need to take up another tactic or seek a new kind of CNMN activity with a set of guys who are more amenable. However, there is a special nature to being naked/clothed with someone who you know, like and can get along with - after all that's one definition of a friend. I realize too that for some people, they 'need' that special bonding with someone, and the CMNM experience may not have much meaning or much excitement if the person is a total stranger. Yet, some guys can only be excited if the person is an unknown stranger. Even luckier when you get to have both. Nonetheless, you've got your objective in mind ... so how do you go about getting to that place where you're both comfortable or at least accepting (i.e. not outraged or embarrassed) by one of you being naked in front of the other?
 
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That was truly hot and exciting.. but after a few more minutes the massage got me relaxed and my erection cooled down to a less obvious state of excitement. Before long the massage was over and he then said it was finished and then asked for the 3300 forints for the oil massage (same price as was listed at the cashier's when I came in).
No complaints from me.. it was a very hot experience -- sort like being force stripped and teased into sexual excitement and then out of it.. a truly Turkish afternoon delight.
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My masseur asked me to lie down on the table and when I started climb up, he said, "Take off you swim pants." When I sort of hesitated and looked over to double check the other guy and his masseur, the big guy reached up and pulled down one said of my trunks and repeated, "Take these off, please." I was immediately convinced that this was an excellent chance to flash and to feel great while it happened.
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[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot]I stripped and tossed my trunks aside and got up on the table face down and buttocks up. My cock swelled up just a bit once it was free and being observed so I adjusted it backward (so as to be seen). My masseur started immediately rubbing my legs and moved up calves to thighs and then my butt. It was a turn-on to be the only one lying there naked.. my masseur had a towel around his waist and so did the other one; the guy on the [/FONT][/FONT]
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Of course, I got a semi-boner as he worked my legs and came up to my hamstrings and then my buttocks. After about 5 minutes, he asked "do you want some oil" - -I think this was the way to confirm my permission to give a full massage because when I said yes, he added, "it will take about 30 minutes, OK?" So I knew by then it would cost me, but it was worth it (and not much anyway). It felt cool being kind of seduced into getting a massage and having it done in the nude when other guys came in and out of the adjoining room made it a rare treat for it to be totally acceptable to be naked and even erect in front of several men.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]vacation. I have been to gay saunas and bathhouses before, and also to bathhouses and spas in Austria, Japan, and other places. But it was my first time to go to an actual Turkish bath. My trip to Eastern Europe was a lot of fun. It was on this trip that I was able to visit the Kiraly Baths in Budapest, which seems to open daily, but Tues/Thurs/Sat are men-only days. Women have M/W/F. A bathing suit is required (maybe because this was Hungary or maybe all Turkish baths require them). It was also a very old place-- dating back hundreds of years to the Ottoman empire. It was cheap enough -- 4-5 dollars to get in - although I did not realize that there was a 3 hour time limit - so I had to pay extra when I left. Things are pretty conservative - since it is Turkish and is also a straight men's bath for relaxing and [/FONT]
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But don't think for a minute that sex between men doesn't happen, and besides it was a great opportunity for flashing. I was very glad to get the experience. I really did not know what it was actually going to be like -- so I did get my expectations up too high .. however, overall, I was very pleased with the experience.[/FONT]
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[FONT="tahoma" , "calibri" , "verdana" , "geneva" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot]After you pay cashier, you drop you ticket off with the guy at the inner door and are directed to the men's dressing room. Inside, there are separate cubicles where you undress and where you leave your belongs.
That was a bit disappointing because I thought that there would be ample opportunity to flash (or to see guys undressing).

An attendant has a separate key to double lock your cubicle (supposedly to prevent theft - but more likely to prevent guys from inviting another into his rather spacious cubicle for sex.) Also they mark the time you enter on the cubicle door, so they know how long you have stayed (and thus can charge you extra -- which I figure goes directly into the attendant's pocket).
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He would probably have liked me to plow his white meaty buns.. but I had other fish to fry that night. Hokuoukan (北欧館)is 8 floors of lockers, baths, saunas, group 'mixed' rooms with TV, porno video, and dark corners, where sex is going on. The top floors are private rooms where you can stay all night - so you might consider it as an alternative to a more expensive hotel - if you ever had reason to visit Osaka.

I also like the 'chase' - seeing a cute guy who seems interested but who can't seem to break down and give in to my advances. Of course, it's not always successful - but when a young Japanese guy gives me the look-over, I try to see if he'll want to do more than look. Obviously, the men who are my age or older, chase me too, often trying to put the make on my booty or my baby-maker (I fathered two children, remember), but at times they can be too clawing and undaunted in trying to obtain their goal: get my cock in their ass or mouth. I push them away - unless - I'm in a really horny or desperate.
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Last night, there was one really cute slim hottie - probably in his early 20s - that had me 'chasing' him up and down the 8 stories, but he always managed to get back to the TV room - with his towel slightly spread -- a real tease, so nothing came of it because I wanted to leave by midnight. You pay an entrance fee ($22), but you have to pay an extra 600 yen ($6 US) if you depart after midnight - although that allows you to stay the rest of the night. There are plenty of places to sleep - but sometimes, it is 'hard' to sleep because some cute guy or, more likely, some older codger will keep trying to pull open your cotton robe or slip off the blanket to get a taste of your exotic 'foreign' meat. Pretending to sleep in order to attract 'suitor-suckers' is also fun at times, and there are sometimes a lot of Japanese men who only prefer to have sex with men that way: being seduced while 'asleep.'


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It would have been hot to go out on the streets since Osaka is full of bars, pubs, and night clubs because there were tons and tons of cute twinks flooding the streets. But they hardly gave a middle-aged foreigner a second look, when I had headed to Umeda Station, walking from my hotel.... (oh well...). At least in the baths, everyone's there to get off basically so you don't have to 'play games' unless you're particularly picky.
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It was a nice time in Osaka. It's a fun city with a lot to do and see, and a vibe that is very different from Tokyo. I'm sure I'll find another excuse to come again (literally) soon.
 
I visited Osaka this weekend, and went to Hokuokan (the huge gay baths and inn there) for the first time. It was hopping with all types of men...Asian men, grandpops, and twinks made up 98%. I fit in somewhere. I think it makes me a whole lot more exhibitionist in many ways because of the fact
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visited Osaka this weekend, and went to Hokuokan (the huge gay baths and inn there) for the first time. It was hopping with all types of men...Asian men, grandpops, and twinks made up 98%. I fit in somewhere. I think it makes me a whole lot more exhibitionist in many ways because of the fact that I am a member of an extreme racial/ethnic minority in Japan. You might think the opposite might be true, and in some ways, it is like being a 'fly on the wall' - as an outsider to the surrounding culture that can be so quickly identified as such. But it's also stimulating (although it can be exhausting at times) to be the object of everyone's interest (apparently so -- though obviously not true). I get glances all the time wherever I am.
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But in a gay bath house, those glances are ones that might be admiring or at least curious. At my age, I don't pass up a chance to show off in the light of such visual scrutiny. So I often get a hard on just walking around. It helps too that there are also a hot men and young men that have well-developed muscles on a wiry, athletic frame. Not be far can you say that Asian men are not well-endowed. Size is only relative. In comparison with the overall size of their bodies, some Japanese men are hugely endowed. Not being a size queen does help.
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The night was pretty good -- Saturday seemed to have been best to arrive before 9pm. There were plenty of hot young dudes (20s & 30s) who were getting dressed, and leaving, but then another wave arrived later on in the evening.


I got to plug a few asses, and watch plenty getting sucked and fucked. The top role is one I often seem obliged to take in such an orgy-like environment. I am not hugely endowed, but often more than equal to and many times quite a mouthful for some dude who later wants his butt opened and his prostate massaged by a blunt object: my cock. It was hot when one other non-Asian young guy sucked my cock while a small Japanese dude rode the white guy's big ass.
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Before taking up my position just off the road, I scout out downthe road to see if he's approaching and then take up my position (like the photo).
I'm turned a bit to the left but I can him clearly when I look to my right. I've
done this before but never pulled my pants all the way down until recently.
Earlier, I was taking a piss (or pretending too).










So twice recently.. when I knew nobody else was approaching either direction .. I've pulled down my pants and starting jerking my cock (not hard in this 'staged' recreation of the scene).
There should be no doubt that he can see me in this peripheral vision but he's TOO damned chicken or just not going to give me the pleasure knowing he's looking. He's smart - not a smart-alec and he's not looking for a confrontation but he's not looking to see 'dick' if he can help it either.

I know it's pretty stupid (fruitless is a better word LOL) -maybe useless to try to keep flashing this guy (if you can call it that). But the challenge just seems to be increasing my feelings of urgency. This time after he went by without so much as a smile or frown/scowl or side glance... I had to go deeper off the main road and beat off til I came.
Is this going to lead to me trying to go to greater lengths to get the guy to look?


I think the attraction is that I sort of 'feel' like I know him -- ridiculous idea (I know) but at least we recognize each other.
Sometimes he almost can't help it if I suddenly meet him coming around a corner but it's risky to be 'showing' more than just wearing see-thru mesh - because mothers with school children, old ladies and men heading to their office job are equally likely to suddenly appear around the same corners.
I know he does look my way at times .. but it's only when I'm 20-50 meters away. There is a large plaza (paved area) along the main road, where we sometimes cross paths at a much great distance. It is at times like that when I have my zipper down and my cock partly exposed. I notice then that he 'seems' to take a brief look .. but if I'm too close.. he averts his eyes or even turns his head.


What do you think? It's not much of a flashing experience - but it's the most 'real' flashing I've ever done (not counting nude beaches and CMNM with male strangers in hostels/campsites). He's got to know that I'm 'beating off' for him, but he's closed to the idea.


Any suggestions?



  • See what I mean ... in a posting (original from May 10) cygnus wants to find a place to flash in Holland. Of course, there are many more people of Asian origin in most European cities than you would find Non-Asians (caucasians) in major cities of the country where I live.


    Look how he described himself "I am skinny asian boy" (a very cute one from the looks of his attached photo ), but does being a racial minority have an effect on us wanting to be a flasher (or to expose ourselves).


    I would say deep down psychologically it does.


    We' re not talking about simply traveling to a country that has a very different ethnicity as your own. But actually living, working and becoming immersed in the language, culture and daily life for a long period of time - (few to many years) might prompt extreme minority members to crave acceptance beyond the 'normal' channels.



    I noticed some str8 flasher on the other discussion forum on this site who fit this profile.


    I'll need a shrink to help me explain it or explore the ideas within myself - but others may have some insight to share.


    So does this strike a harmonic chord with anybody else who is a would-be flasher / exhibitionist and who is also in a racial minority in the country of residence where you live and work?






 
See what I mean ... in a posting (original from May 10) cygnus wants to find a place to flash in Holland. Of course, there are many more people of Asian origin in most European cities than you would find Non-Asians (caucasians) in major cities of the country where I live.


Look how he described himself "I am skinny asian boy" (a very cute one from the looks of his attached photo ), but does being a racial minority have an effect on us wanting to be a flasher (or to expose ourselves).


I would say deep down psychologically it does.


We' re not talking about simply travelling to a country that has a very different ethnicity as your own. But actually living, working and becoming immersed in the language, culture and daily life for a long period of time - (few to many years) might prompt extreme minority members to crave acceptance beyond the 'normal' channels.


I noticed some str8 flasher on the other discussion forum on this site who fit this profile. I'll need a shrink to help me explain it or explore the ideas within myself - but others may have some insight to share. So does this strike a harmonic chord with anybody else who is a would-be flasher / exhibitionist and who is also in a racial minority in the country of residence where you live and work?




Things have gotten more daring on my part this month. A couple of times
recently I've gotten more bold.. like this morning. From the road, he would see
me something like this (photo attached). I realize it's very tame by comparison
(to other's extreme flashing - but HEY!.. we are NOT all made or built the same,
right?)

I'm standing in a pathway between grave plots about 7 meters from the main road that runs through the cemetery. It's a straight wide (private) road with no thru vehicle traffic - so I only have to be careful about pedestrians and bicyclists
going east/west.
 



For nearly two years (very infrequently off and on), I've tried to get a younger man (about 23-27) who rides to work on his bicycle through the cemetery (above) to notice my peekaboo flashing (see thru, hole-riddled and mesh clothes). He's not ever really taken the bait and generally turns his head or avert his eyes - if we're too close - so that he can't be 'accused' of looking. I am pretty positive he knows what I'm up to ... a few times a month I make a sudden appearance on his route - sometimes with my zipper down or sometimes with a pair of mesh shorts with my shirt tucked in just for him to see my pale cock wiggle from side-to-side as walk by him.

If he were so disgusted or fearful (of being stalked), he could easily find another path to his work (I think he's working at a small commercial airport not too far away) because I meet him usually (once a week or so) around 7:00am and he returns about home the same route in mid-afternoon. Wednesday are his day off so he works on Saturdays as well.
 

I do the same to him. I have more fantasies, like dad and me getting caught by mom and shes mad, but hot too, and joins us. But mostly about dad and me. Like I said, nothing ever happened and i wasn't really attracted to him, but the idea of something going on really excites me.


At my age now I also have fantasies about role playing with a younger guys as my son and i catch him masturbating to gay porn. Of course I join him and things go from there.











 

This feels sooo good. In a few minutes he starts stroking his own cock and is big and hard in a minute. I am really humping against him now and he tells me to get on top of him and straddle him so I can rub my cock against his. With no hesitation I climb on top and lower my cock to his. Its like electricity when our cocks touch.





I start rubbing and he moves against me too. In a few minutes I am cumming on his cock. When he feels my cum, he cums. Our cocks are covered. He rolls me over and cleans me with his mouth and tongue. Then he starts gently sucking me. I have never felt anything like it before.
 

This thread is so hot I have been reading and stroking the whole time. I am 60, bi married, and have been interested in this for quite a while. My wife knows and is fine with the bi thing. We even have talked about incest a little. I met a guy online who had a sexual relationship with his father and after hearing about it I think about it and reading stories all the time. Nothing ever happened to me, but I wish it had. I have fantasies all the time now about my father and me, even me, dad, and mom.

I used to masturbate rubbing my penis on the bed or putting a towel on the floor and rubbing on that. A couple times my mother came and caught me rubbing. i jumped up but couldn't hide my small hard cock. I didn't want her to tell dad; I thought he would be mad. This is where my main fantasy starts.


I'm about 13 and Mom is out shopping on Sat morning and I go to the bathroom. On my way back to bed dad calls me in to his room. He slept naked and told me to get in bed with him which wasnt unusual. He told me to take off my pajamas, which also wasn't that unusual. Then he tells me mom told him I was masturbating.

]I was nervous but he told me it was natural and ok. Then he tells me he wants to see how I do it, if I don't mind. I was nervous but get on my stomach and start rubbing on the sheets. He watches me and pulls the sheet off himself. His cock looked really big to me at that age. He starts to get a little hard. It starts to feel good and i get more relaxed. Then he tells me it would feel really good to me if I rubbed it against his leg, again if I was ok with it. I turned on my side and he got a good look at my rock hard, hairless little cock. I think I see his cock twitch then. I move next to him and start rubbing my cock against his thigh.
 
Whether fiction or not, most of the stories involve sex between men of very different ages - whether or not they are related by family seems to be an added thrill. A constant theme seems to be 'making a man' out of young guy by an older authority figure - his dad, or uncle, or coach. Personally, I find the fiction terrifically exciting - although like many guys have said on this and similar threads, my dad is the last person on the planet I'd want to have sex with. But, somehow the dad of the boy-next-door seems to be irresistibly hot in all these stories - maybe a case of fantasy (fiction) being more erotic (and truer) than reality.




Now I have finally tracked down the full URL for HandJobs Magazine , thanks to John_W (the ubiquitous JUB host 'cum' moderator (that's Latin - not semen although I am sure he bathes in it from time to time So if you interested in gay family sex or male incest or Greek love (older man-young man), then you can enjoy both the art work of numerous artists who illustrate these older man with young man (--- uncle/dad/coach/priest/cop and young newbie/virgin twink --), and also quite few of these types of stories can be found in the Readers Forum. http://www.hjmag.com/handjobs/
Enjoy (or perv out) --- whatever turns you on (or off)... Kelly (sunbuns)




 
So it felt more comfortable / self-between the other thighs.
esteeming building to be admired by this younger crowd. Once we tried to try out what 'fucking' might be like -- there was not penetration, but Danny seemed to be keenist to try it out. He'd already started puberty - and would reach sexual maturity a year or so ahead of other boys of my brother's class/age. We ended up naked in the tent, one would pull his dick down and back - sort of hidden like it was a mons pubis and the other boy would lay on top and put his cock between the space.

Today we call a variation on this 'frottage' - although we did progress to ejaculation, I can remember the feel of Danny body when I was laying atop him or him over me. It was a boyish game of sexual experimentation -- that my younger brother witnessed, but out of some inborn sense of propriety, he and I never tried it while in front of the other boys.

Danny's younger brother was among the kids in the gang too and likewise, he never did anything with his brother (at least not in front of us).




That's enough Kelly, and stop stop reminiscing about innocence lost .. OK, OK!


From a previous post on another JUB thread:
There is a publication, Handjobs Magazine, devoted to these kinds of stories, supposedly some of them are true. That must be one for the attractions -- the allure of reality. If you have bought ones at an erotic bookstore, it tells how to get at the older issues on their website:

http://www.hjmag.com/handjobs/







 
[h=2]The ties that bind - let your boys have their way, dad.[/h]




I hate getting nagged to post on JUB (another porn/social network site) but once I get started I end up writing a page that worth blogging (for myself). JUB is great (Yahoo 360 could take a lesson for some of its feature) but it's code of conduct (making its profit) sometimes gets under my skin. Well. I guess, I should be grateful -- but the site would not be worth it (still free -- at least for a while) if it weren't for the contributors (both commercial and individual). So is here mine... (As it a blog were not enough). I should be grateful even more to Yahoo -- so I'm reposting it here. JUB doesn't yet offer RSS feeds from its blogs.





Back to topic: Ever had sex or ever wanted to it with a family member?

I have a brother who's about three and half years younger. So when I reached puberty (13 - 14) and discovered masturbation, I kept it a secret from him because he was just a kid and not interested in sexual
things (yet). Although I was turned on by the idea of playing around with boys and with him, I didn't really act on it -- except when he was sleeping a few times. One couple of nights, while he was sound asleep, I'd take his hand and wrap it around my cock and beat myself off with it. It was a pain cleaning up the cum. (so I didn't really make it a habit -- also he could wake up).

It was a little different when he was reaching puberty. We sort of played around a little - looking at each other erect cocks and touching each other -- maybe that was just once. Something held me back from doing more. I never ejaculated with him watching or sucked him or he me. But I was interested in his friends - especially one who was slightly older and maturely more quickly. His name was Danny. We'd do the pre-teen boy thing --going swimming, or building forts, and still one of my favorites until this day -- camping in each other backyards and inevitably there be the sex talk and the comparing cocks and seeing how much pubic hair was growing. Of course, I was older than the other boys (they were about my brother's age) and 'the winner' is the early macho 'contests' but it was probably because I was chicken to do so with my own agemates. I always felt a little less developed than my own peers.
 
He did the same, showing a small pair of briefs with a bulge of a similar length, but even thicker than mine. I kissed all the way down from his muscular chest down to just above his underwear waistband, then I pushed him onto his back on the bed and took off his underwear all the way off. I got on my hands and knees over him and bent down to take his fat cock into my mouth and began to lick and suck the head. He moaned and placed his hand on the back of my head, pushing me down onto his delicious dick. He shuddered as I took the whole thing between my lips and began to bob up and down.

After a couple minutes of John’s massive cock sliding down my throat, he began to moan loudly. “I-I’m gonna cum,” he moaned deeply.
“Not yet,” I said, sliding my mouth back off his throbbing penis and taking my hands off his beautiful balls.
“Get on all fours,” he commanded as he stood up to make room for me on the bed. Once I was positioned on the bed, he spread my ass cheeks and began to run his tongue around the rim of my asshole, sending waves of pleasure through my body. I moaned loudly as he plunged his tongue deep into my ass. Soon, he took a finger and pressed it into the opening of my hole, and it slid in. I moaned again when he began to finger me, and I was in heaven as he added another finger and then another.
He pulled his fingers out and flipped me over onto my back and kissed me, exploring my mouth with his tongue. He opened the drawer next to his bed and grabbed a small bottle, and used its contents to lube up his thick cock. He looked into my eyes and asked, “Ready?”
“Please put it in me,” I begged him.
He took my legs and lifted them up to expose my tight hole and then grabbed my arms and pinned me down to the bed. With no hands, he expertly positioned his member and pressed the beautiful head against my hole. He kissed me as he slowly pushed it in halfway. I cried out in pain and pleasure; feeling his huge cock inside me felt unbelievably good. "Oh, Matthew, you feel so tight. Fuck, I want your hole so bad," he said. When my hole relaxed and the pain subsided, he slowly pushed all the way in. With that, my best friend’s dad’s huge cock was inside me. I moaned loudly, and whispered, “Fuck me.”

“Oh, I will,” he assured me as he began to pull back out. When the rim of his cock head reached the edge of my asshole, he thrust back in, moaning as he pushed his warm dick back inside me.

When he was all the way in, he pulled out again, starting to pick up a rhythm. As he began to fuck me slowly, we looked into each other’s eyes and moaned with the pleasure of our shared bodies. John picked up speed as he thrust deeply into my ass, and started to grunt while he fucked me savagely. With every thrust of his hips, he began to grunt and soon I was yelling out in pleasure. With one final thrust, we both came at the same time, and I felt him shoot eight hot pumps of cum into my tight hole as it tensed and clenched around his throbbing dick.
When his cock started to soften inside me, he pulled back out, and he ran his finger across my cum-covered chest and licked my juices off. “Fuck, you’re good,” he said, sighing.
“Can I say something?” I asked, turning to look at him lying next to me.
“Sure,” he said. “Go ahead.”
“I-I think I love you,” I said hesitantly. He met my gaze.
“Well, I think I love you too.”
“We’re doing this again,” I said, feeling drowsy. I looked at the clock and saw that it was only ten o’clock.

“Yeah, we are.”
With that, he pulled the covers over us, and pulled me close. I fell asleep with his strong arms embracing me.
 

I pulled up in front of the house and walked up to the door. I rang the doorbell, and after a few seconds, John opened the door. Apparently he was ready to get in the pool too, because he was shirtless with only a short pair of swim trunks on. I couldn’t tell whether he noticed me checking out his perfect body and nice package, but if he did, he didn’t care. “Hey, John,” I said.


“Do you mind if I come do some laps in the pool and lift some in your weight room?”
“Absolutely, feel free to use whatever you want,” he said. “I was actually about to do the same thing.”
“Sweet,” I said, coming inside and stepping past his golden body.

We walked out to the pool, and I began to strip down to a pair of short swim trunks similar to John’s. It was so difficult trying not to stare at John’s gorgeous pecs and muscular shoulders. I felt my cock starting to swell in my pants, so I dove into the pool to try and hide my growing bulge.
After about a half hour of doing laps, John and I were both starting to get worn out and it was starting to look rainy, so we decided to head back in to lift weights for a while. We dried off and got dressed, and walked down to the basement where all the weights were.
As I laid down on the bench, I asked John, “Hey, do you mind spotting me while I bench press?”


“Sure thing,” John said, removing his shirt and walking over to stand over me while I lifted. As I lifted, I started to lose focus looking at John’s perfect bulge under his gym shorts. As hard as I tried, I couldn’t keep from getting a hard on, and I certainly couldn’t hide it through my gym shorts. I racked my weight as my face turned red with embarrassment at my full 7 inches showing through my shorts. “Don’t be embarrassed,” said John as I stood up. “It happens to everyone.”​
I stood looking at him, my face still red, when I looked down and saw that he was sporting an impressive boner too. I walked around the bench to stand in front of him, and kissed him deeply on the lips. When I pulled away, he whispered, “Would you like to take this upstairs?”

“Oh, I’d love to go upstairs,” I whispered into his ear. He grabbed me by the hand, and we made our way up to his bedroom, kissing as we ascended the stairs. We came into John’s room and he closed the door. As we got to the bed, he laid me down on my back and straddled me, bending down to kiss and suck my neck passionately. He then got up so I could straddle him to kiss from his neck down to his nipples. As I kissed and sucked his nipples, he moaned quietly and stroked my hair. “Let’s get undressed”, he said into my ear in a deep, sultry voice.
We both stood up and looked each other up and down. After I had kissed John deeply on the lips, I stepped back and lowered my pants exposing a tight pair of boxer briefs that showed off my bubble
butt and my 7-inch bulge tucked to the side.

 
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