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belamy,

As we Greeks were also to learn, the epitaph for all great powers is found in history books mouldering in the thoughts of what was.
 
Goula said:
Leaving aside the possibility that China might splinter along regional lines, which you do mention, or along religious lines, which you don't, demographics would seem to suggest that you are probably wrong in your prediction.

Within the next two decades, China's population -- as a percentage of the world's population -- is predicted to drop ... to somewhat less than a fifth. At the same time, China's percentage of the world's population which is over the age of 65 will rise. According to figures put out by the UN & the US Census Bureau, by 2525, approximately 25% of the world's population aged 65+ will be Chinese.

Many of these people have barely a primary-school education, if that. Many of them live in rural areas. Many of them have already spent lives without adequate food or medical care. Many of them will also be women. In a society where care for the elderly is traditionally passed on through the son(s), the odds are -- due to China's population control policies, that a woman reaching retirement age in by the end of the next two decades will have had fewer than two children, and roughly one-third of them will have had no sons.

China's version of Social Security is already a mess, and is tottering toward collapse. At present, it covers only about one in six workers. The current liabilities the system has, from only those approximately one in six workers, appears to exceed China's current GNP. Even were China's economy to continue to grow at a rate of 10 to 12% per year for those two decades, the figures suggest that China's entire GNP, if applied only to the retirement system, would still not fund the current existing liabilities.

This looks more like a rather sudden plunge into catastrophe than emergence into world-superpower status, to me.
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What a silly concern. It is more likely that severe crisis or even wars sanitize the population pyramid. And, if for an ironical twist of destiny it was the younger and not the older who would be decimated, then they would remain their own problem.
 
Thomas Jones is the chosen one! No longer will my people mine Pot Noodle for others to enjoy at our expense!

Isn't It!
 
The United States in no longer a super power.

We are a nation at war with ourselves. Once we concentrate on overcoming illiteracy, povery, and social and religious prejudice, we may, once again, become a nation to admire (read: not envy).

China is becoming an economic power on the backs of its poor laborers. There will come a day when they, too, will stumble because of their economic greed.

Sorry about the disillusionment.
 
irish1 said:
The United States in no longer a super power.

We are a nation at war with ourselves. Once we concentrate on overcoming illiteracy, povery, and social and religious prejudice, we may, once again, become a nation to admire (read: not envy).

China is becoming an economic power on the backs of its poor laborers. There will come a day when they, too, will stumble because of their economic greed.

Sorry about the disillusionment.
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The US IS all you can assimilate to being a SP, the best proof your talking about the supposed decadence. Being a promise of something is not being it. But having to deal with the hard work, the corruption, inner struggles to which I alluded before, and which are present at any stage, from a position which is no longer a promise of future is the true mark of holding the power. Otherwise, there wouldn´t be all that silly but dangerous hating of the USA around the world.

A nation at war with itself (different from a war in the form of a nation, like a country in the Near/Middle East and, in a funny different way, Spain) is a nation maturing, developing.
 
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The Film: "A Man For All Seasons" - 1966 - Sir Paul Scofield, Dame Wendy Hiller

Sir Thomas More:

Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?

As for the so called American Empire, its decline is already in the making, and has been so for a long time.

Once we lost the spark that was John F. Kennedy, we lost the future and the ability to deal with our role in this world. The chances now of us finding anyone and or any one's to get us back on track are basically over. By the end of this century, which i shall not see, America's Empire will have ceased to exist as it is known now. Good luck to the next heir apparent - whom ever that may be. Who said being number 1 was the best place to be?

Search below for places 4-7 and you will find the real leaders of societies and nations and schools etc. The less focus of attention one receives the better to do what one can and wants to do. And the end result is that a far better society is created then that of number 1.

One of the great advantages of the Cold War was that there were two so called Super Powers - they balanced each other - thus preventing one from thinking the were God's gift to the world. The fact that a major part of the balance was a fraud, still kep things at bay - once this balance was lost, everything was lost and thrown out of kilter.

You best bet is "benevolent dictatorship." Let those abound, and the cream of the crop will rise to the top.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra - or as is more commonly known in these times, also speaks the local village idiot, who remains ignorant of all of these matters as they have nothing to do with the THEATRE.:cry:

**wars** :menorah: :santa: **wars**

:goodluck​

eM.:(

A Sad Commentary on The Times.Need not be read, can easily be ignored.
 
It would be somewhere in asia. maybe china (we all know that its a sleeping giant, lets all wait till it wakes up).
 
kallipolis said:
belamy,

As we Greeks were also to learn, the epitaph for all great powers is found in history books mouldering in the thoughts of what was.
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Τὸ πεπρωμένον φυγεῖν ἀδύνατον
 
Nonimus said:
Wow, that's beautiful!

Like some scene from Star Wars n'shit.
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something like that...lol

greeks are rather obtuse about the concept of empire

we did it first and we did it best

now?

we just want peace

that is our destiny

perhaps one day america will choose peace over empire as well when it matures as a nation

we can all hope
 
Andreus said:
something like that...lol

greeks are rather obtuse about the concept of empire

we did it first and we did it best

now?

we just want peace

that is our destiny

perhaps one day america will choose peace over empire as well when it matures as a nation

we can all hope
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Actually, you did it 3rd - The Babylonians did it first, then the Medeo-Persian Empire then the Greeks. Sorry to piss on your falafel stall n'shit.
 
well as a half persian half greek, i get to claim all three of the first ones, then :p
 
The Geeks of the world will inject themselves with Ninja-genes and after a lightning-fast campaign come to dominate key economic zones and impose their will upon the weak and video-game-clueless.

And I thank Goula for his comments.
 
i'll tell you who won't ever be a super power. spain.

stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :p
 
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