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falconfan
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Re: Supernatural's back, baby!
Ummmm.... Meg, Bela and Ruby ARE bitches. Dean has never used the term bitch to refer to Jo, Ellen or any of the one epsiode females. Dean uses the term bitch a lot including when he talk about SAM and assorted mythical creatures. Bitch is a term that can air on TV unlike some other colorful derogatory terms and my writers instinct tells me that may have a lot to do with it's frequent appearance in the Supernatural lexicon. You'll see in "Ghostfacers" Dean was frequently "bleeped" which hints to me that's what his voice sounds like in the writers' heads and they must than adjust to FCC standards.
Also I think one of the most intriguing things about the character of Dean is his background. This was a character that grew up with NO female in his life. Period. He was raised by a angry marine on a mission to avenge his wife. Dean in EVERY way shows that he deifies woman because of his mother. He holds a very old time view of women as being gentle, delicate, and in need of protection. And almost all the damsels in distress in season one serve as manifestations of Mary (often being blonde with long hair). If you pay close attention you'll see that the character often shows many old time ideals of chivalry (He held the door for Missouri for instances). He refused to let Ruby sacrafice the life of the innocent virgin in "Jus in Bello" (though the likely wouldn't have sacraficed a man either). Yet it's cleary that he has an innate belief in female fragility as evidenced by the attitude he showed when first meeting Jo in "Everybody Loves A Clown."
There's also the issue of sex and Dean. Despite Dean's deification of women there's a clear degree of objectification in it as well. Sex is not something he's shy about nor is he shy about making remarks about hot women. That being said Dean never did (nor COULD he ever) have a normal healthy relationship with a woman. The only girl he was only honest with was scared off by his real life (Route 666). And even when he has a one ngiht stand with a woman it's not devoid of emotion (The Kids Are Allright).
In the end I think it's undeniable that Dean has a very old fashioned view of women, which springs from the macho world he was raised in and the fact the only female figure in his life was an idolized image of his long dead mother (who may not have really been all that angelic in reality). But the fact in my book his undeniable compassion, altruism, and selflessness far out weights the fact he A. Feels the need to inordinately protect women and B. Uses the term bitch frequently.
Yea the female characters are pretty rotten. The girl who used to be Harmony on Buffy was ok and the cougar who turned out to be a werewolf that Sam fucked that time was good as well. It's like they try to make every girl be over the top sexy and not just a normal girl who happens to be sexy.
I like Sam better than Dean because Dean's personality makes him unnattractive. He always calls every female demon a bitch and a whore and goes out of his way to degrade them sexually. Like when he slapped that girl demon last night then tossed money in her face like she was a hooker. He always does shit like that. I know this isnt the
PC police but it is so offputting to see him act like that all the time. But that being said i do love both actors' acting.
Ummmm.... Meg, Bela and Ruby ARE bitches. Dean has never used the term bitch to refer to Jo, Ellen or any of the one epsiode females. Dean uses the term bitch a lot including when he talk about SAM and assorted mythical creatures. Bitch is a term that can air on TV unlike some other colorful derogatory terms and my writers instinct tells me that may have a lot to do with it's frequent appearance in the Supernatural lexicon. You'll see in "Ghostfacers" Dean was frequently "bleeped" which hints to me that's what his voice sounds like in the writers' heads and they must than adjust to FCC standards.
Also I think one of the most intriguing things about the character of Dean is his background. This was a character that grew up with NO female in his life. Period. He was raised by a angry marine on a mission to avenge his wife. Dean in EVERY way shows that he deifies woman because of his mother. He holds a very old time view of women as being gentle, delicate, and in need of protection. And almost all the damsels in distress in season one serve as manifestations of Mary (often being blonde with long hair). If you pay close attention you'll see that the character often shows many old time ideals of chivalry (He held the door for Missouri for instances). He refused to let Ruby sacrafice the life of the innocent virgin in "Jus in Bello" (though the likely wouldn't have sacraficed a man either). Yet it's cleary that he has an innate belief in female fragility as evidenced by the attitude he showed when first meeting Jo in "Everybody Loves A Clown."
There's also the issue of sex and Dean. Despite Dean's deification of women there's a clear degree of objectification in it as well. Sex is not something he's shy about nor is he shy about making remarks about hot women. That being said Dean never did (nor COULD he ever) have a normal healthy relationship with a woman. The only girl he was only honest with was scared off by his real life (Route 666). And even when he has a one ngiht stand with a woman it's not devoid of emotion (The Kids Are Allright).
In the end I think it's undeniable that Dean has a very old fashioned view of women, which springs from the macho world he was raised in and the fact the only female figure in his life was an idolized image of his long dead mother (who may not have really been all that angelic in reality). But the fact in my book his undeniable compassion, altruism, and selflessness far out weights the fact he A. Feels the need to inordinately protect women and B. Uses the term bitch frequently.































