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Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

Yea the female characters are pretty rotten. The girl who used to be Harmony on Buffy was ok and the cougar who turned out to be a werewolf that Sam fucked that time was good as well. It's like they try to make every girl be over the top sexy and not just a normal girl who happens to be sexy.

I like Sam better than Dean because Dean's personality makes him unnattractive. He always calls every female demon a bitch and a whore and goes out of his way to degrade them sexually. Like when he slapped that girl demon last night then tossed money in her face like she was a hooker. He always does shit like that. I know this isnt the
PC police but it is so offputting to see him act like that all the time. But that being said i do love both actors' acting.

Ummmm.... Meg, Bela and Ruby ARE bitches. Dean has never used the term bitch to refer to Jo, Ellen or any of the one epsiode females. Dean uses the term bitch a lot including when he talk about SAM and assorted mythical creatures. Bitch is a term that can air on TV unlike some other colorful derogatory terms and my writers instinct tells me that may have a lot to do with it's frequent appearance in the Supernatural lexicon. You'll see in "Ghostfacers" Dean was frequently "bleeped" which hints to me that's what his voice sounds like in the writers' heads and they must than adjust to FCC standards.

Also I think one of the most intriguing things about the character of Dean is his background. This was a character that grew up with NO female in his life. Period. He was raised by a angry marine on a mission to avenge his wife. Dean in EVERY way shows that he deifies woman because of his mother. He holds a very old time view of women as being gentle, delicate, and in need of protection. And almost all the damsels in distress in season one serve as manifestations of Mary (often being blonde with long hair). If you pay close attention you'll see that the character often shows many old time ideals of chivalry (He held the door for Missouri for instances). He refused to let Ruby sacrafice the life of the innocent virgin in "Jus in Bello" (though the likely wouldn't have sacraficed a man either). Yet it's cleary that he has an innate belief in female fragility as evidenced by the attitude he showed when first meeting Jo in "Everybody Loves A Clown."

There's also the issue of sex and Dean. Despite Dean's deification of women there's a clear degree of objectification in it as well. Sex is not something he's shy about nor is he shy about making remarks about hot women. That being said Dean never did (nor COULD he ever) have a normal healthy relationship with a woman. The only girl he was only honest with was scared off by his real life (Route 666). And even when he has a one ngiht stand with a woman it's not devoid of emotion (The Kids Are Allright).

In the end I think it's undeniable that Dean has a very old fashioned view of women, which springs from the macho world he was raised in and the fact the only female figure in his life was an idolized image of his long dead mother (who may not have really been all that angelic in reality). But the fact in my book his undeniable compassion, altruism, and selflessness far out weights the fact he A. Feels the need to inordinately protect women and B. Uses the term bitch frequently.
 
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OK I might get a little crazy psychoanalytical here but let me just say that there is a reason he is pissed off at demons. They killed his mother and father. And his brother kinda is one. So instead of taking his frustration out on Sam he takes it out on the "bad" demons.

But I don't feel that he is biased when it comes to their gender. It is actually a testament to his character that he doesn't hold back just because a demon is in a female body. Sam is more understanding because he feels like one of them.

Dean is just angry in general. And he takes that anger out on anything they have deemed "bad." That includes the female demons.

I know the whole story. I've been a fan since the beginning. But he seems especially nasty to the female demons. Like I said tossing the money in her face and slapping her. He would never do that to a man. And constantly calling them bitches, sluts, and whores, he doesnt call the male demons names all the time. Even with Ruby she'd do nothing and he'd punch her in the face and call her a bitch. I think his character is supposed to be a douchey pig on purpose. If he's not abusing the female demons, he's trying to fuck every female human he sees. He's always breaking his neck about to crash a car in order to look at some girl's ass. Then he's always calling Sam a girl or implying that he's gay just because Sam isnt some kind of pussyhound.
 
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Post #26--falconfan hit it right on the head. :=D:
 
Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I know the whole story. I've been a fan since the beginning. But he seems especially nasty to the female demons. Like I said tossing the money in her face and slapping her. He would never do that to a man. And constantly calling them bitches, sluts, and whores, he doesnt call the male demons names all the time. Even with Ruby she'd do nothing and he'd punch her in the face and call her a bitch. I think his character is supposed to be a douchey pig on purpose. If he's not abusing the female demons, he's trying to fuck every female human he sees. He's always breaking his neck about to crash a car in order to look at some girl's ass. Then he's always calling Sam a girl or implying that he's gay just because Sam isnt some kind of pussyhound.

Sam would've straight up punched a male demon in the face and he still would've tossed the money on the table. His treatment of demons is only highlighted because almost all the demons ARE female.

He is overly sexual and has an old time view of male and female roles however. None the less he's a man who's always willing to give his life for others, to suffer incredibly for the sake of justice. He's an extremely intriguing character and they've done a lovely job of positioning him up to this point.
 
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Ummmm.... Meg, Bela and Ruby ARE bitches. Dean has never used the term bitch to refer to Jo, Ellen or any of the one epsiode females. Dean uses the term bitch a lot including when he talk about SAM and assorted mythical creatures. Bitch is a term that can air on TV unlike some other colorful derogatory terms and my writers instinct tells me that may have a lot to do with it's frequent appearance in the Supernatural lexicon. You'll see in "Ghostfacers" Dean was frequently "bleeped" which hints to me that's what his voice sounds like in the writers' heads and they must than adjust to FCC standards.

Also I think one of the most intriguing things about the character of Dean is his background. This was a character that grew up with NO female in his life. Period. He was raised by a angry marine on a mission to avenge his wife. Dean in EVERY way shows that he deifies woman because of his mother. He holds a very old time view of women as being gentle, delicate, and in need of protection. And almost all the damsels in distress in season one serve as manifestations of Mary (often being blonde with long hair). If you pay close attention you'll see that the character often shows many old time ideals of chivalry (He held the door for Missouri for instances). He refused to let Ruby sacrafice the life of the innocent virgin in "Jus in Bello" (though the likely wouldn't have sacraficed a man either). Yet it's cleary that he has an innate belief in female fragility as evidenced by the attitude he showed when first meeting Jo in "Everybody Loves A Clown."

There's also the issue of sex and Dean. Despite Dean's deification of women there's a clear degree of objectification in it as well. Sex is not something he's shy about nor is he shy about making remarks about hot women. That being said Dean never did (nor COULD he ever) have a normal healthy relationship with a woman. The only girl he was only honest with was scared off by his real life (Route 666). And even when he has a one ngiht stand with a woman it's not devoid of emotion (The Kids Are Allright).

In the end I think it's undeniable that Dean has a very old fashioned view of women, which springs from the macho world he was raised in and the fact the only female figure in his life was an idolized image of his long dead mother (who may not have really been all that angelic in reality). But the fact in my book his undeniable compassion, altruism, and selflessness far out weights the fact he A. Feels the need to inordinately protect women and B. Uses the term bitch frequently.
Ruby was never a bitch. She was always trying to help them both. But there's really no need to defend the character. That's who he is. There's no need make excuses. If that's the case, we can defend every guy who is a sexist pig. I'm sure if you dig deep they all have issues. Then you have to excuse all bad behavior.
 
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Oh god. I never noticed your avatar. I'm not even gonna debate. We're neevr gonna see eye to eye and we dont have to. At the end of the day. I love the show. I love Sam. My disliking Dean will not discourage me from watching or encouraging others to watch.
 
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Ruby was never a bitch. She was always trying to help them both. But there's really no need to defend the character. That's who he is. There's no need make excuses. If that's the case, we can defend every guy who is a sexist pig. I'm sure if you dig deep they all have issues. Then you have to excuse all bad behavior.

Of course EVERYONE has issues that shape their behavior. I'm not "making excuses." I'm looking at his overall character and you're talking about a man who's literally devoted his life to saving people. He most often bonds with young mothers (Dead in The Water, Home, Playthings, and The Kids Are All Right) and I think it's a logical extension of his deification of mothers and motherhood if not the female form as a whole. He's clearly a very compassionate person who on multiple occasions has risked his life for no reason other than the sense it's his duty to help people and easy the pain of others. I can't dislike that. I don't expect anyone to be perfect and flawed characters are only more realistic, dynamic, and interesting.

And Ruby is obviously being positioned as the evil seductress and there's been a hint of it since day one. She's (IMO) a power hungry manipulative demon who is taking advantage of Sam's trusting nature and emotional baggage to propel herself to the top of the heap by pulling Sam further down the dark path.

Dean was always suspicious of Ruby because she was a demon. That seems relatively reasonable to me.
 
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BTB I like what they are doing with Dean this season. Him being brought back by "God."

How's that for putting a character in his most uncomfortable place.

It's a wonderful dynamic with Sam's trusting nature making it hard for him to deal with the possibility that forces of darkness may be courting him and Dean's cynical nature making it hard for him to deal with the possibility forces of light might be courting him.
 
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BTB I like what they are doing with Dean this season. Him being brought back by "God."

How's that for putting a character in his most uncomfortable place.

I'm with you, Babe. I love that the one who is always concerned with saving someone else, now has to deal with the fact that someone feels he's worth saving--and it's someone he doesn't even believe exists.

One of the things I love about this show, and falconfan pointed it out beautifully above, is that there is a psychology behind these characters. Their lives up to this point are what make them who they are. Many other shows would not have taken the time to explore how these two characters evolved based on their damaged pasts. They would have just layered their personalities over the back story. In Supernatural, it's embedded into the characters--they each have a core from which they operate, and it makes sense as to how that core has formed.
 
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I thought I was one of the few gay Supernatural fanatics out there. I've read the tie-in books and the Supernatural magazine, have all 3 seasons on DVD, and just generally obsess over the show. It's my favorite, and not just because Jensen Ackles is sexy as hell. When he lifted his shirt in the season premiere, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. This man is beautiful!(!)(!):gogirl::gogirl:
 
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I thought I was one of the few gay Supernatural fanatics out there. I've read the tie-in books and the Supernatural magazine, have all 3 seasons on DVD, and just generally obsess over the show. It's my favorite, and not just because Jensen Ackles is sexy as hell. When he lifted his shirt in the season premiere, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. This man is beautiful!(!)(!):gogirl::gogirl:

One of the best gratuitous shots of the past few years of a male actor is the one in season one where Dean is laying on the hotel bed, and they pan up his legs and over his nice, boxer-brief covered booty. :D
 
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I'm with you, Babe. I love that the one who is always concerned with saving someone else, now has to deal with the fact that someone feels he's worth saving--and it's someone he doesn't even believe exists.

One of the things I love about this show, and falconfan pointed it out beautifully above, is that there is a psychology behind these characters. Their lives up to this point are what make them who they are. Many other shows would not have taken the time to explore how these two characters evolved based on their damaged pasts. They would have just layered their personalities over the back story. In Supernatural, it's embedded into the characters--they each have a core from which they operate, and it makes sense as to how that core has formed.

Yeah well I really think that having only two leads allowed the writers to reach depths of these characters that few other shows ever reach. I mean we know every one of these boys most minute idiosyncracies from Sam's fear of clowns to Dean's distaste for Bon Jovi.
 
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Yeah well I really think that having only two leads allowed the writers to reach depths of these characters that few other shows ever reach. I mean we know every one of these boys most minute idiosyncracies from Sam's fear of clowns to Dean's distaste for Bon Jovi.

or that if he's not hunting, you'll more than likely find Dean either stuffing his face or stroking to "Busty Asian Beauties"

any word on whether John Winchester will be making an appearance this season?
and does anybody else think Gordon could've made for an awesome recurring nemesis?
 
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I think last night's episode kinda blew. One of the most boring episodes ever imo. Of all the people who couldnt be saved Meg and henrikson? Not feeling this god versus lucifer business either. Supernatural and Buffy are very different shows but one thing I always loved about Buffy was they didnt make any real Christian references. The Supernatural writers are going down a dangerous road imo.
 
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Personally, I have no problem with the whole heaven vs. hell angle. I was kinda hoping for it actually. The moment I first heard Lilith's name mentioned, I knew they were going to work Lucifer into the storyline somehow. I'm glad they're not shying away from the subject--the writers aren't writing for the sake of the bible thumpers out there who might be watching. I'm hoping we get to see the Morning Star this season. Maybe they'll throw in a little archangel action--let's see Michael, or Gabriel.
 
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I like the direction it's taking and the juxtaposition of Sam and Dean. It's only natural when you look at the series. It's always true to the backstory and mythology surrounding a monster and the mythological background surrounding demons are steeped in Christian theology. I think its good how they're setting up clear roadmarkers and tasks.

LOVED seeing Nicki Aycox come back. Now THERE was a girl who knew how to play a demon (Take note new Ruby). Would've loved to see Madison come back though. That would've been great.
 
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I like the direction it's taking and the juxtaposition of Sam and Dean. It's only natural when you look at the series. It's always true to the backstory and mythology surrounding a monster and the mythological background surrounding demons are steeped in Christian theology. I think its good how they're setting up clear roadmarkers and tasks.

LOVED seeing Nicki Aycox come back. Now THERE was a girl who knew how to play a demon (Take note new Ruby). Would've loved to see Madison come back though. That would've been great.

Is Madison that werewolf cougar who Sam had sex with that time?

Anywho It's especially disappointing that the show is taking this direction because Eric Kripke always maintained that they would NEVER go this route with angels and an ultra holy crusade.
 
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So anybody think the season ending will have Dean face off against the devil?

I like the way they are showing Angels. It's just like in that movie called "The prophecy" with Christopher Walkin. Famous line in that movie was...would you ever truly want to meet an angel?

Then when the angel tells Dean that he's not here to perch on his shoulder, that he's a soldier. A warrior for god was at first kind of cheesy. But i like it. Also the seals are being broken and lucifier walks among the land again was cool too. Sure it sounds all religous like but the way there are delivering the material in this show i dont feel like I'm being preached too or anything. It's making it more exciting. I like it!

PS: Be cool to see greater demons too. Since so far the demons we've seen like ruby are scared as hell of angels. I like the fact that she said angels smite first then ask questions! LOL
 
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