Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]

[aijalon18]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

reading a review of the premiere, they mentioned how the fangirl dissing Jensen was a little nod to the fact that the majority of fans prefer Jensen.

lol i love this show. they know it has a cult following and really just knows how to please the long time fans. i have been there since the beginning, loved it from day one.

I didnt know one was vastly preferred more than the other. On most blogs and things it seemed pretty even or slightly more like Jared. Jared has a lot of those Gilmore Girls fans who are still obsessed with him.

Jensen just doesnt do it for me. Even when he was on Smallville and Dark Angel, i thought he was really plain. I was surprised people first thought he was hot on Supernatural.

 

[willsboy84]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I didnt know one was vastly preferred more than the other. On most blogs and things it seemed pretty even or slightly more like Jared. Jared has a lot of those Gilmore Girls fans who are still obsessed with him.

Jensen just doesnt do it for me. Even when he was on Smallville and Dark Angel, i thought he was really plain. I was surprised people first thought he was hot on Supernatural.

think i've mentioned it before, but if we're talking Jensen and Jared...i gotta give the edge to Jared. Jensen usually seems so stiff off camera...and NOT in a good way

as far as Sam and Dean...it's the complete opposite. Sam's not QUITE as dull as Jensen, but he can't touch Dean in terms of sheer awesomeness Dean Winchester is THE SHIT!!!

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I didnt know one was vastly preferred more than the other. On most blogs and things it seemed pretty even or slightly more like Jared. Jared has a lot of those Gilmore Girls fans who are still obsessed with him.

Jensen just doesnt do it for me. Even when he was on Smallville and Dark Angel, i thought he was really plain. I was surprised people first thought he was hot on Supernatural.

oh yeah. in the past seasons, all over the web, people raved and gushed over Jensen on the show (including me) and thought Jared was hot, but to twinkish, pretty boyish. He has definetely grown up since the beginning (i think last season really helped) and he has def grown in the hottness scales.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I've always loved the way they listen to the fanbase. THey allowed us to rid ourselves of Jo and Bela.

To be honest, I kinda like Bela I thought she was a great antagonist for the boys. Although, at times, I was hoping she would die.

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

think i've mentioned it before, but if we're talking Jensen and Jared...i gotta give the edge to Jared. Jensen usually seems so stiff off camera...and NOT in a good way

as far as Sam and Dean...it's the complete opposite. Sam's not QUITE as dull as Jensen, but he can't touch Dean in terms of sheer awesomeness Dean Winchester is THE SHIT!!!

I feel the same way and I think a lot of people are attacted to that wounded tough guy who's really a great guy at heart, you know? The whole rebel wihtout a cause thing going on.

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

To be honest, I kinda like Bela I thought she was a great antagonist for the boys. Although, at times, I was hoping she would die.

She wasn't a flawed character fundamentally and I was actually one of her defenders back in the day (She won me over in Red Sky In Morning). The issue was that the network forced the show to make her a "regular" and she got crammed into all these places she didn't belong.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

She wasn't a flawed character fundamentally and I was actually one of her defenders back in the day (She won me over in Red Sky In Morning). The issue was that the network forced the show to make her a "regular" and she got crammed into all these places she didn't belong.

oh..
oh, i didnt know they forced her to be a regular. CW needs to stick with the hands off aproach. at least kripke won out and got her out as a regular. i do hope she is in this season though. she has a place

 

[aijalon18]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

To be honest, I kinda like Bela I thought she was a great antagonist for the boys. Although, at times, I was hoping she would die.

i liked Bela too and Ruby for a while. i dont like them listening to fans because some of the most vocal are silly girls who never like any female character on the show.

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

oh..
oh, i didnt know they forced her to be a regular. CW needs to stick with the hands off aproach. at least kripke won out and got her out as a regular. i do hope she is in this season though. she has a place

Oh yeah there was a fucking firestorm the beginning of season 3. The producers wanted the CW to greenlight one female regular (Ruby) but the network asked for two. As a result the producers bumped up Bela from recurring character to 'recurring regular'

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

The problem is that most of the recurring characters in Supernatural are really badly written (especially the female ones).

The Supernatural fanbase seems to just lose it and complain about how much things suck and so the writers give in rather than taking the time to let things develop properly. I really wish that this show was more about what works for the story rather than what the fans want.

That said, I liked how they closed Bella's story, which was actually very relevant to the current episodes and did seem to make sense to the story.

Ruby is a bit meh. I loved her in season 3, but it seems like they lost her a little with the new actress.

Ellen is amazing and I was really sad that she got cut because of how badly Jo was received (even though I thought she did have the potential to turn into a more interesting character). Those 2 really weren't given much of a chance, so I hope that them coming back now means that they'll get to be more involved.

I warmed up to Ruby and I think the way they revealed her in the Season 4 finale was pretty great, honestly. I LOVED LOVED LOVED Ellen but because Ash and Jo were so damn annoying they blew up that whole damn bar up. I do think Jo was a pretty fundamentally flawed as a character. She was presented as this punch Dean in the face super tough chick when we met her but her next episode she was I've never hunted before, completely incompetent, damsel in distress. That inconsistency would've just been horrible. She'd wind up as this tough talking person who was completely useless. Then they introduced all that your father killed my father nonsense that I wasn't feeling either.

That being said, it may please you to know that both Jo and Ellen will be back in tonight's episode.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

i liked Bela too and Ruby for a while. i dont like them listening to fans because some of the most vocal are silly girls who never like any female character on the show.

I think the artist are selective on what they take from the fans. And I think they don't really change stories around us, mostly acknowledge what we say about the show. Like the Jensen diss.

It also knows when to poke fun at itself. With the episode called "Jumping the Shark" they knew it was a jump the shark ep, and instead of acting like it wasn't, they owned up and called it what it was.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

Oh yeah there was a fucking firestorm the beginning of season 3. The producers wanted the CW to greenlight one female regular (Ruby) but the network asked for two. As a result the producers bumped up Bela from recurring character to 'recurring regular'

Oh wow, I was totally out of the info circle back then. While she may not work as a recurring regular, she does work as a recurring character, and I hope that she is on this season.

I think Kripke said she was. Here's to hoping.

 

[neoachilles]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

Yay for tonight's episode! I loved it. How awesome was it watching Castiel trying to be a normal human? And we finally got to see an archangel. I loved the ending, as well. It was only slightly disappointing, because it seemed like the obvious solution, but in all honesty it makes perfect sense. Can't wait for next week.

Side note: Was I the only one who kind of expected that waitress to be God in disguise? After her whole "nothing so bad that it can't be forgiven" speech, I got that feeling. Oh well, that might have been a little too much, too soon.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

^Zachariah is a archangel. He is probably a lowly archangel, but still more powerful than your garden variety Angel.

Cas admitting he is a virgin was so funny, that whole scene, set up was just so hilarious, I was cringing and laughing the entire time.

I totally thought Sam was Lucifer's true vessel since last season. Releasing him from hell totally couldn't have been the only Ezezel cultivated Sam.

It will be interesting to see the ultimate arch angel fight between Sam and Dean.

It was also so heartbreaking with Dean being happier without Sam. Not the usual route shows usually go, but this is Supernatural, we expect it.

I think next ep will make Dean realize he needs to keep Sam close to him, and probably go looking for him again. Even though he feels happier with Sam gone.

I think Dean will eventually let Michael have his body, if only to stop Sam.

 

[bigass]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I loved last night's episode of supernatural.

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

^Zachariah is a archangel. He is probably a lowly archangel, but still more powerful than your garden variety Angel.

I doubt he's an archangel. According to Christian theology (At least the one I'm familiar with) there were four archangels: Michael, Lucifer, Gabriel, and Raphael. When Lucifer fell he was replaced and I've had many names for his replacement, most frequently Uriel (which is why I was so surprised that he was NOT an archangel but maybe they were playing off him replacing Lucifer as for shadowing of his own descent). Either way I'm not familiar with an biblical Zachariah outside of John the Baptist's father.

I think Supernatural has made it clear theirs an Angel hierarchy. Anna was Cas & Uriel's "boss" but she clearly wasn't in charge. Zachariah I imagine is high up the food chain but not the highest tier.

Cas admitting he is a virgin was so funny, that whole scene, set up was just so hilarious, I was cringing and laughing the entire time.

I also found the idea of Cas learning to be human adorable but the stripper scene wasn't one of my favorites.

I totally thought Sam was Lucifer's true vessel since last season. Releasing him from hell totally couldn't have been the only Ezezel cultivated Sam.

I thought for a while that Sam was suppose to be the anti-christ. Pretty much since John told Dean he may have to kill him. It's glad to find out I wasn't crazy because I really thought they've been drawing biblical parallels in the family for a very long time.

It will be interesting to see the ultimate arch angel fight between Sam and Dean.

It was also so heartbreaking with Dean being happier without Sam. Not the usual route shows usually go, but this is Supernatural, we expect it.

I think next ep will make Dean realize he needs to keep Sam close to him, and probably go looking for him again. Even though he feels happier with Sam gone.

I think Dean will eventually let Michael have his body, if only to stop Sam.

I think the next episode Dean's being sent forward in time by a mysterious force (i.e. God) to see what happens if he does hand his body over to Michael. Thus Dean saying to himself 'You're making decisions I'd never make' or something of that nature.

I like Dean and Sam not being incredibly buddy buddy. As for whether they'll give themselves up as vessels or not... two seasons ago I said at the beginning they' CAN'T send Dean to hell, he'll get out of it. Last season I said they CAN'T start the Apocalypse they'll get out of it. This season I see myself saying the same thing... they have a way of doing these crazy ass things that seem like they'd end a series and now that the production staff actually are more or less planning to bring it to a close who the fuck knows.

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I doubt he's an archangel. According to Christian theology (At least the one I'm familiar with) there were four archangels: Michael, Lucifer, Gabriel, and Raphael. When Lucifer fell he was replaced and I've had many names for his replacement, most frequently Uriel (which is why I was so surprised that he was NOT an archangel but maybe they were playing off him replacing Lucifer as for shadowing of his own descent). Either way I'm not familiar with an biblical Zachariah outside of John the Baptist's father.

Oh, well I guess that makes sense then. Cause seeing Raphael, I was wondering how Zachariah could be so...weak compared to the intensity Raphael brought. Even Dean was scared.

I think Supernatural has made it clear theirs an Angel hierarchy. Anna was Cas & Uriel's "boss" but she clearly wasn't in charge. Zachariah I imagine is high up the food chain but not the highest tier.

I always imagined Zach to be some type of powerful spokesangel for special humans. Kind of like Nan Flannigan from True Blood.

I thought for a while that Sam was suppose to be the anti-christ. Pretty much since John told Dean he may have to kill him. It's glad to find out I wasn't crazy because I really thought they've been drawing biblical parallels in the family for a very long time.

Yeah, ever since season 1 with the demon blood, I figured there was something big that was in store for Sam. Never imagined he'd be the vessel for Lucifer.

I never imagined there was anything special in store for Dean. Not until he was yanked out of hell.

You know what would be cool. If God takes the body of their Dad. I hope this somehow gets to Kripke. Talk about epic.

I think the next episode Dean's being sent forward in time by a mysterious force (i.e. God) to see what happens if he does hand his body over to Michael. Thus Dean saying to himself 'You're making decisions I'd never make' or something of that nature.

I am wondering if it is God or Michael. If Lucifer could find Sam, even with the cloak on, no doubt Michael is equally as resourceful. What if Michael knows what is going on (seeing how he is essentially God while God is gone) and to convince Dean, he sends him forward to see the future that awaits if he remains defiant.

I feel like Michael is somewhat similar to Lucifer. Neither of them lie, or trick you, but instead, show you that being their vessel isn't as bad as the alternative. Sam, being outcast and considered persona non grata amongst hunters, including his brother. Except for Bobby I guess.

And Dean, seeing as the Apocalypse unfolds before his eyes, and he is unable to stop the progress.

I like Dean and Sam not being incredibly buddy buddy. As for whether they'll give themselves up as vessels or not... two seasons ago I said at the beginning they' CAN'T send Dean to hell, he'll get out of it. Last season I said they CAN'T start the Apocalypse they'll get out of it. This season I see myself saying the same thing... they have a way of doing these crazy ass things that seem like they'd end a series and now that the production staff actually are more or less planning to bring it to a close who the fuck knows.

Well, if the CW gets the next season they want, who knows what will happen. How do you have a season after the apocalypse, Lucifer, Michael and God?

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

You know what would be cool. If God takes the body of their Dad. I hope this somehow gets to Kripke. Talk about epic.

I was wondering about where John was myself. I mean with angels running all over the place Daddy would definitely go try to help his sons. Realistically though I doubt that CW can afford Jeffery Dean Morgan so I don't really expect to see him around even if I feel the character should reappear in some sense. Maybe towards teh end of the season we'll catch a glimpse of John but if you remember even the Djin episode they couldn't get JDM to come back.

I don't think God really needs a vessel. I mean he's not an angel he's god.

I am wondering if it is God or Michael. If Lucifer could find Sam, even with the cloak on, no doubt Michael is equally as resourceful. What if Michael knows what is going on (seeing how he is essentially God while God is gone) and to convince Dean, he sends him forward to see the future that awaits if he remains defiant.

Hmmmm yeah that does seem more their style. You're probably right.

Well, if the CW gets the next season they want, who knows what will happen. How do you have a season after the apocalypse, Lucifer, Michael and God?

Very good question. I see no way you can have a season AFTER the Apocalypse. I don't know what's going to happen. Kripke has been very insistent on keeping his five season arc intact. But CWs beginning to realize their earning potential of the show with the increased ratings and they're pressuring more seasons so he's begun to say if he comes across a satisfactory idea to further it he'd stick around. Either way I believe both Js are signed on throuhg 6 seasons os I think one might happen. God knows how you top the end of hte world though

 

[Apollo]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I was wondering about where John was myself. I mean with angels running all over the place Daddy would definitely go try to help his sons. Realistically though I doubt that CW can afford Jeffery Dean Morgan so I don't really expect to see him around even if I feel the character should reappear in some sense. Maybe towards teh end of the season we'll catch a glimpse of John but if you remember even the Djin episode they couldn't get JDM to come back.

I don't think God really needs a vessel. I mean he's not an angel he's god.

I didn't know the actor was so expensive.

I was thinking God would simply take the form of John and appear before the brothers to stop all the madness.

But IDK, so many ways to use the God in this season. Who knows what will happen. I wonder who gets the honor of writing the lines for God? It will have to be profound. But they did such a good job on Raphael.

 

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I didn't know the actor was so expensive.

I was thinking God would simply take the form of John and appear before the brothers to stop all the madness.

But IDK, so many ways to use the God in this season. Who knows what will happen. I wonder who gets the honor of writing the lines for God? It will have to be profound. But they did such a good job on Raphael.

Well I don't know his asking price or anything. I do know that he's become a hot commodity of late (He's in 6 movies in some phase of production). That he's got great recognizability since his turn on "Grey's Anatomy" I also know they had to replace Katie Cassidy for budgetary reasons. It' just my assumption that they'd have trouble securing him. Can't say if it's true.