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Supreme Court Deals a Serious Setback to The Boy Scouts

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The Los Angeles Times

High Court Deals Setback to Boy Scouts

By David G. Savage

Times Staff Writer

2:14 PM PDT, October 16, 2006

In a setback for the Boy Scouts, the Supreme Court turned away today a free speech challenge to a city policy in Berkeley that denied a subsidy to a Scouting group because it excludes gays and atheists.:=D: :=D: :=D:

The court's action lets stand rulings in California and elsewhere that have said cities, schools and colleges may deny special benefits to groups that refuse to comply with broad non-discrimination rules involving religion and sex orientation.

Some conservative groups had joined the challenge to the Berkeley policy, saying that advocates of "traditional moral values" were being subjected to discrimination nationwide by "politically correct" government officials.

Without comment, the justices dismissed the appeal.

Six years ago, the high court came to the aid of the Boy Scouts of America when it ruled that a state cannot force a private group, such as the Scouts, to admit openly gay men if doing so would violate its professed code of conduct. In that case, James Dale, a former Scout master, had sued the group after he was excluded upon admitting he was gay.

The New Jersey courts said the Scouts must abide by the state's antidiscrimination law. The Supreme Court disagreed in a 5-4 decision in the case of Boys Scouts vs. Dale.

But in the wake of the Scout's victory, some cities and school districts refused to permit Scouting groups to use their facilities on the same basis as others.

Lawyers for the Scouts went back to court to challenge this exclusion as unconstitutional discrimination. So far, they have been rebuffed.

For many years, Berkeley had given a rent-free berth in its marina to nonprofit community service organizations, including the Sea Scouts. An affiliate of the Boy Scouts, the group teaches sailing and seamanship to teenagers.

But the Berkeley City Council adopted a policy that required groups who wanted a free berth to agree in writing that they would not discriminate against persons based on, among other factors, their race, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation. The Scouts did not sign the agreement because the Boy Scouts' policy excludes gay and atheists.

Eugene Evans, an adult leader of the Sea Scouts, agreed to pay $500 a month to maintain the berth in the Berkeley marina, but he also led a lawsuit challenging the policy as violating the group's rights to freedom of speech and the equal protection of the laws. He argued that the Scouts were being treated as "second class citizens" because their views on religion and homosexuality were disfavored by the government.

He lost decisively in the California courts, however.

In March, the California Supreme Court upheld Berkeley's policy in an unanimous ruling. "Berkeley had not attempted to muzzle anyone's speech," the state high court said. "A government entity may constitutionally require a recipient of funding or subsidy to provide written, unambiguous assurances of compliance with a generally applicable nondiscrimination policy," it said.

The Scouts had hoped for a more sympathetic hearing from the Supreme Court. The Pacific Legal Foundation, which presented the appeal in the high court, said the California ruling "sets an ominous precedent" for Scouting groups.

Former Atty. Gen. Edwin Meese, Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Sacramento) and other conservative lawyers backed the appeal and noted that some Christian groups have been denied recognition or funding on college campuses because they exclude gays and atheists.

"Millions of Americans who believe in traditional moral and religious values are looking to this court to uphold the constitutional rights and equal treatment under the law," they said in a friend-of-the-court brief.

But in a one-line order, the court refused to hear the case of Evans vs. City of Berkeley.

This action sets no legal precedent and the justices may well take up the issue in the future. Lawyers for Berkeley had argued that because Evans had appealed on his own, he did not truly speak for the Sea Scouts group. While the justices gave no explanation for refusing to hear the case, this could have figured in the decision.

Harold E. Johnson, an attorney for Pacific Legal in Sacramento, said he was disappointed the court refused to hear the case.

"We are confident that, eventually, the court will take a case addressing the underlying issues because there are too many examples of government discrimination against Scouting and other belief-based organizations to ignore," he said.#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

david.savage@latimes.com
 
Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't prove much if they don't even hear the case. Particularly because they don't have to give any reason for it. We'll just have to wait and see which way this court is going to fall on cases like this since they got Roberts and Alito.
 
Good, the Scouts can take their stand, but the community does not have to support them.
 
Pardon my French here but:

Fuck the Boy Scouts of America and thier ban on young gay men from participating in their group!

I wonder how many young men have been in mortal fear of being discovered by this homophobic group???

Can you imagine the fear these kids have???

I know how I felt in the military trying to conceal my sexuality; but damn, I was 21+ years old at the time; but these guys are young and do NOT know how to deal with this!!!

I'm sorry; but I do NOT wish any good for them!!(*8*) (*8*) :kiss: :kiss:
 
^ I agree. It's good to know my taxes are not going to them.
 
I didn't realize they exclude atheists as well! Are they a religous order? I don't actually know much about them.:confused:
 
^God and Country! Timmy! Get your finger out of Freddy right now!! We've talked about that. Damn Scout Masters!
 
^ Their founder was a suspected homosexual. I find that very interesting.
Most likely the group from the beginning had to be above suspicion morally, hence the emphasis on religion and non-sexuality.
 
^indeed. You can find a faggot in every wood pile...
 
I find it VERY hypocritial that a group who fought for its right to discriminate against people is now bitching because it's being discriminated against. You can't have it both ways.
 
I find it VERY hypocritial that a group who fought for its right to discriminate against people is now bitching because it's being discriminated against. You can't have it both ways.

My thoughts exactly.

But like so many others they feel that as they have the Moral High Ground that the rules do not apply to them. They tend to think that they can have their cake and eat it too. Sorry guys. Tax payers should not have to support your organization's efforts if you choose to discriminate.
 
^If you exempt yourself from the law, you should not receive benefits from the governing body.
 
Well, it's just as well I never joined. I'd've been thrown out on two counts, as I'm an atheist, too (at least in terms of traditional religions).

Wonder how they deal with pagans/naturalists and other non-Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions.
 
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