Surprising and disappointing!

[strangepoetry]

Thank you for taking a singular post out of context. This is exactly what I am talking about.

Somebody wanted to know why I don't want a tattoo. I replied by letting said person know that I don't want to get something done, which is permanent, because the end resulut may be my thinking it's just another generic tattoo which everyone already has.

And if you would kindly, reread my posts from this thread, you will see that it is not I who is stating everyone is bitchy, but that I fear this gives people reason to justify their stereotypes.

Don't take everything so PERSONALLY dude. Nobody gives a shit really. It's the internet, not real life. No one's holding anything against you. Everything's cool...if you let it be...

 

[FanofFiction]

Thank you SP. I suppose some of this tension stems from what is going on in my real life. Usually JUB is a sweet escape, but lately it seems just as bitter as the real world.

I am an assistant to a somewhat prominant local politician here. All the fighting and jabbing in real life has been getting to me. But at least in real life (in Canada) we have political decorum laws preventing personal attacks.

Then I come online to see everything falling apart on here as well. I just need some peace.

 

[strangepoetry]

Thank you SP. I suppose some of this tension stems from what is going on in my real life. Usually JUB is a sweet escape, but lately it seems just as bitter as the real world.

I am an assistant to a somewhat prominant local politician here. All the fighting and jabbing in real life has been getting to me. But at least in real life (in Canada) we have political decorum laws preventing personal attacks.

Then I come online to see everything falling apart on here as well. I just need some peace.

well, I know just how to make you feel better...


(then we can talk about fiction. i'm a fan of it too)

 

[gsdx]

I hear the shits about to hit the fan in the fetish forum as well.

Oh, Crap!!!!!

 

[wooffy]

I am more than a little surprised and upset at the immaturity on this site. It seems that rather than have a discussion and accept people for their viewpoints, everyone would rather attack you to no end for not being a carbon copy of themselves. Sadly, it does reinforce stereotypes about 'bitchy fags' as an older gay friend of mine likes to put it.

While I am sure many people will say "all sites are like this" etc., which may be true, I have decided I want no part of it. I took a few days off from JUB to reflect on things, and decided I do not intend to invest any further time or effort in this site.

This site is extremely unwelcoming to non-Americans and to those who are not hetero-normative.

Is this site typical? Is it just a reflection of how greatly different things are in the US? Is it just a sign I need to go back to ignore on-line "discussion"? Don't care, I just know that I feel very frustrated and angry when I try to invest my few minutes of spare time each day posting here. I feel cognitive dissonance every time I see a topic discussed here which I have discussed in the local queer community. I'm not sure I live on the same planet as some of these posters!

Am I just weird? Maybe - after all I left Facebook because I found it worse than useless But given that both my jobs and my two volunteer board positions are in the queer community, the last thing I want to do in my spare time is deal with closed minds and debate issues which I recall debating 10 years ago.

On a much lighter note, staffing our table at Sexapalooxa last weekend was a riot! Mostly straight and vanilla crowd - have you ever tried to explain cock rings to a straight man?

 

[bambam]

This site is extremely unwelcoming to non-Americans and to those who are not hetero-normative.

I'm not sure what you mean by hetero-normative, but speaking for myself and many others here, love me some Canadians!

 

[anchihiro]

^^ No, how did that conversation go?

 

[Beachguyj]

Don't trust men without eyebrows.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I love all of the bitch fighting here and all over the Internet.

It exposes the human race for what it is: a bunch of savage beasts no better than the rest of the animal kingdom.

fascinatin

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I am more than a little surprised and upset at the immaturity on this site. It seems that rather than have a discussion and accept people for their viewpoints, everyone would rather attack you to no end for not being a carbon copy of themselves. Sadly, it does reinforce stereotypes about 'bitchy fags' as an older gay friend of mine likes to put it.

I like to believe that such stereotypes are unfounded and started by other groups of people who would use anything to keep the gay community down. Most of the gay men I know in life are not anywheres near as 'bitchy' or 'touchy' as many of the boys on here.

Something as simple as saying "I find most tattoos generic and unoriginal" sent some people into a frenzy, replied that I am "Illogical" and "Retarded" for thinking that. For starters, it's an opinion and secondly, 'retarded' is wholly unacceptable in this day and age.

Then there are those who seemingly attack your character for no reason at all and you reread an entire thread to try and figure out where the hostility is coming from, only to discover that it to is unfounded. And if you call anybody out who is a repeat offender- usually they don't even remember the previous verbal assaults! Or at least they pretend not to.

On the upside however, there are members here who I have seen receive numerous attacks for political, religious, and philosophical beliefs and these members seldom strike back with the same cowardly 'anonymous, venomous attack'. Those members give me a lot of hope for our community. I applaud their maturity and dignity.

Is it because we are anonymous online that we become so quick to slur? Because here, we can relentlessly attack people over mundane and pointless, petty differences without fear of having our own personal flaws attacked? Would we be so bold in person? Are we really the 'bitchy' community which we are so often accused of being? I fear for the worst.

I am just saying that it is possible to hold different values, different opinions, and different beliefs without having to personnally attack others. Do try to retain some level of dignity, even if it is as an anonymous avatar on an international website. Do not be so quick to carry the burden of spite and anger on your shoulders. Make peace and not war as they say.

out curious is internet make up folk of country what is in living 3D?

suggest country got need not internet ans when countrys figure international it internet be?

anyway Internet give light ta cultures already much clear fa eons what make da whole thang more a fry folks brains ta da human equation

anyway real world a know all this so maybe whens CULTURES catch up ta da vommit futures internet be RIGHT CHATTY KOOL ans internet go POOF

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

real world disappointin fa eons many cultures be

why it surpirse fa folk internet is surprise

so help da world a little bit ans surpirse da surpirse



happy pornins

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

While I am sure many people will say "all sites are like this" etc., which may be true, I have decided I want no part of it. I took a few days off from JUB to reflect on things, and decided I do not intend to invest any further time or effort in this site.

This site is extremely unwelcoming to non-Americans and to those who are not hetero-normative.

Is this site typical? Is it just a reflection of how greatly different things are in the US? Is it just a sign I need to go back to ignore on-line "discussion"? Don't care, I just know that I feel very frustrated and angry when I try to invest my few minutes of spare time each day posting here. I feel cognitive dissonance every time I see a topic discussed here which I have discussed in the local queer community. I'm not sure I live on the same planet as some of these posters!

Am I just weird? Maybe - after all I left Facebook because I found it worse than useless But given that both my jobs and my two volunteer board positions are in the queer community, the last thing I want to do in my spare time is deal with closed minds and debate issues which I recall debating 10 years ago.

On a much lighter note, staffing our table at Sexapalooxa last weekend was a riot! Mostly straight and vanilla crowd - have you ever tried to explain cock rings to a straight man?

was most interestin read thankyou

 

[teadrinker]

While I sort of agree with the original post, there are a few things worth keeping in mind. First, the vast range of ages and life experiences on this forum. Nobody knows if you're 19 or 90. A measured post from an older, more experienced person may well elicit a wild post from a younger, more hot-headed type.

Secondly, the language issue. This is, after all, an international forum, and there are folk here from all over the English speaking world, as well as folk from elsewhere. What might be idiomatic, say, in Australian usage, may well come across as rude or thoughtless to somebody else. And English being the tricky language it is, it's almost impossible to write - unless you're very careful - without your meaning being misinterpreted.

There will always be trolls and troublemakers, and people who like nothing better than a stoush. I still think there are enough good things and wise, sensible posters on these forums to warrant hanging around. Mostly I can ignore the rubbish, and if I can't ignore it, then I just smile wryly and enjoy it.

-T.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

While I sort of agree with the original post, there are a few things worth keeping in mind. First, the vast range of ages and life experiences on this forum. Nobody knows if you're 19 or 90. A measured post from an older, more experienced person may well elicit a wild post from a younger, more hot-headed type.

Secondly, the language issue. This is, after all, an international forum, and there are folk here from all over the English speaking world, as well as folk from elsewhere. What might be idiomatic, say, in Australian usage, may well come across as rude or thoughtless to somebody else. And English being the tricky language it is, it's almost impossible to write - unless you're very careful - without your meaning being misinterpreted.

There will always be trolls and troublemakers, and people who like nothing better than a stoush. I still think there are enough good things and wise, sensible posters on these forums to warrant hanging around. Mostly I can ignore the rubbish, and if I can't ignore it, then I just smile wryly and enjoy it.

-T.

VAST RANGE? 10 folk in abondon 18century light house?

folk from else where VAST da a factos

HYBERBOILINS is most note many lingos ans livin cultures suffer it

but great when da living cultures figure it ans all

YAY!



happy pornins!

 

[The White Stripe]

You have to remember that the people you are talking to would not be saying these things if you were face to face with them.

Yeah people on JUB seems to be a little insensitive sometime. I myself am guilty of it, but you can't place any stock in to what these people say. Your opinions are yours and no one can change them unless you let them...

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

You have to remember that the people you are talking to would not be saying these things if you were face to face with them.

Yeah people on JUB seems to be a little insensitive sometime. I myself am guilty of it, but you can't place any stock in to what these people say. Your opinions are yours and no one can change them unless you let them...

sorry say real world is clear say ta faces JUST internet charmins it is say it in words what a marvel fa folk discova Internet why it no surpirse

ans refelct da enourmous PROBLEMS Many countrys GOT squeek cough

but in end ALL GET BETTA

dat a goood!

 

[wooffy]

^^ No, how did that conversation go?

If that was addressed to me - hilarious!

I think one guy left still confused, but the woman with him (not clear if she was friend or girlfriend) got it. She got the "harder, longer" part pretty quickly, but she also understood that wearing a loose cock-ring under your clothes is very stimulating. When I said "it's like having a hand holding you all the time", she responded "I have a bra that makes me feel like that."

 

[Sha-Rok]

Originally Posted by FanofFiction
The people who get the tattoo think that they are getting the coolest thing in the world. But then it ends up looking like another generic tattoo that everyone already has or it looks dumb. And it's there for good.

So it cool for you to make this statement but not to defend myself as a person with tattoo's? Please. I would say every last word I have ever said on this forum to that person's face (including you) because I am fully conscious of the words I speak(type) and I'm not afraid to argue my point of view. Freedom of speech means you can say whatever the hell you want. Its not illegal, you wont be punished by the state, etc. That does not mean "I" have to accept your statement.

In my response I "attacked(made a rebuttal to)" your comment, not you. As you did to me when you piled me in with....

Originally Posted by FanofFiction: The people who get the tattoo

 

[wooffy]

I'm not sure what you mean by hetero-normative, but speaking for myself and many others here, love me some Canadians!

Read this and this.

I was particularly referring to a predominant attitude from JUBers that only non-kinky sex is acceptable, and only monogamous couples are "real" relationships, and that trans-men aren't "real" men, etc. Reading those threads sickens me - not from those who feel differently, but from those who directly or indirectly pass judgment in their responses. (If I had to pick, I feel the indirect judgments are the sadder ones.)

A lack of informed debate on queer issues such as HIV criminalisation can also be called heteronormative.

I never thought of the local queer community as being all that progressive (and really, it's not) - but this forum makes me feel like I've jumped back in time 20 years to when I first came out.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

cock rings round by ways

but lot pop rock wear um fa earings ta keep um standin up what hard fa um do if figures it HAAAA