Teabagger: Too many blacks make C-Span BLACK-Span

[Lostlover]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mui0XWt02tA[/ame]

2010, not 1960...

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

I watched part of that on C-Span. Teabaggers argue that they are racially mixed group, Bullshit!

 

[Lostlover]

I watched part of that on C-Span. Teabaggers argue that they are racially mixed group, Bullshit!

They're pretty much like diversity. It's obvious...

 

[frankfrank]

The motto for the Teabagger Party:

PROUDLY MOVING FORWARD - TO 1773!

April Fool! (but that really should be their slogan)

 

[opinterph]

(Thread Title) Teabagger: Too many blacks make C-Span BLACK-Span

The caller was introduced as a “Republican.” I don’t find any reference identifying him as a “Teabagger.”

2010, not 1960...

Also, with or without adding the proper prefix, please provide more personal commentary when posting a video.


Washington Journal

CALLER: Yeah, I'd like to make a little respectful criticism here about C-SPAN. The last two guys I know were white guys. But you have black folks calling in on the Republican line, independents...and you have so many of them. I cannot believe this is just an accident. If you keep on with the way you have been programming you should change your name from C-SPAN to BLACK-SPAN. I mean, I know they have an opinion, but I wish that they would be honest and call in on the right line. Every one of them thinks that Obama is Jesus Christ, and they do not like when anybody criticizes him. Well, I didn't hear all this anger when George Bush was in. I mean, all they did was criticize George Bush. Every day you would hear "He lied, he lied." I do not know how some many of these folks if they are 10% or 12% of the population, seems to be 80% of your callers. Now, I do not know what you can do about it, but I'm just about ready -- and I think a lot of other republicans or conservatives are about ready to go somewhere else.

 

[opinterph]

who could that be?

I think his name is Bill.

 

[SoulSearcher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mui0XWt02tA

2010, not 1960...

The American South...I do have a tiny bit of sympathy for this caller and those of his kind, poor folks now have to share drinking fountains and theatres, and the most tragic of all, no more picnics after lynching black men and no more circulation of post cards of dead hanging black males to cousin Bubba...so much frustration.

 

[Ambrocious]

Racist people...if you are one of them I feel so sorry for you.

The real issue however is that by injecting racism into the issue's of all of our political catastrophe problems, rather than focusing on the actual issues being propagated, one can effectively MOVE the issue onto racism and away from the REAL issue and cause people to fear being labeled racist. This works wonders when the real issue allows tyranny and corruption to slip through the cracks while defending yourself and trying to prove that your not racist. By the time you are done defending yourself and showing your not racist, people have either turned their noses up to you or they have forgotten the original problem allowing for the problem to grow in secrecy.

Humanities creed to ignorance baffles me because most of the time, ignorance is lead by immediate feelings which cause a reaction to be delivered. If your wise enough, you WONT act on your emotions swiftly.

 

[JB3]

Oh but they still get to violate civil rights.

[STRIKE]Conservatives[/STRIKE] Republicans gotta get their fix somehow

There. Fixed that for ya.

 

[NickCole]

Some people think there are too many blacks calling into CSPAN and some people are eager for older folks to die off.

Obviously these prejudices and intolerance are coming from both Republicans and Democrats, and it's terrible, but even worse than that is the underlying disappointment and frustration that fuels it. It's not just the Republican Party and Democratic Party, their smarmy deals and lousy legislation, that are the problem; clearly there's something rotting in the American population.

Lostlover points out this is 2010, not 1960, and it's a vague but potent point. We should be evolved from 1960 but in many ways we've deterioriated as a society, as a culture, as a people, and certainly as a government. We're headed into bankruptcy and all we can think to do is be infuriated by things like the color of people's skin and their age.

 

[Lostlover]

Oh but they still get to violate civil rights.

Conservatives gotta get their fix somehow

One uplifting fact I remind myself of when seeing teabaggers is that everday for us youngins is like a mini victory. They, you know who, are dropping like flies. And that's less people making it to the polls.

 

[NickCole]

Ambrocious may have a point. keep us fussing & fighting while the moneylenders are laughing their asses off

For sure.

And politically, BushCo perfected it on the Republican side and ObamaCo on the Democratic side. That is, the modern version. Divide and conquer is old as the hills.

But the people who are complicit are all too eager to play.

also

what does lostlover think about a 65yo black man?

If the 65 year old black man cheers Obama, ...

Often our prejudices, though outwardly seeming to encompass generalized groups, tend to be specific.

 

[JB3]

One uplifting fact I remind myself of when seeing teabaggers is that everday for us youngins is like a mini victory. They, you know who, are dropping like flies. And that's less people making it to the polls.

Why do you continue with this whole spiel that old people are bad and should die off? You're clinging to a false notion that somehow them going away is going to make things all better. (it won't)

 

[Ambrocious]

One uplifting fact I remind myself of when seeing teabaggers is that everday for us youngins is like a mini victory. They, you know who, are dropping like flies. And that's less people making it to the polls.

That may seem good to you that all those old farts are dying off paving the victory road for you to stand on the high ground but you fail to see that we ALL must stand together in all of this chaos. As Americans, as human beings; we stand united...or we fall divided and no amount of right or wrong can correct the countless murders of a tyrannical system.




“If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.”
Thomas Paine; One of The Founding Fathers of the United States of America

 

[Lostlover]

Older generations hold intractable prejudices against gays in higher proportions. That's not an opinion. That's not ageism. That's a fact. So while it may not be PR, it happens to be true that time has its impact on making the world a better place for us.

I remember in high school, I had a black English teacher. He went to a seggregated school! And he told us about how he was arrested in Houston because he was black... The suspect in a robbery was a black male. So the cops rounded up every Black male.

He was totally not bitter at all. He told us this during black history month. And I thought then, "why aren't these people in jail?"


Now as a gay adult, these same people deny me a right to marry a man and support a war that has killed three classmates. I'm sill wodering, why aren't these people in jail?

 

[NickCole]

Older generations hold intractable prejudices against gays in higher proportions. That's not an opinion. That's not ageism. That's a fact. So while it may not be PR, it happens to be true that time has its impact on making the world a better place for us.

You are wrong. It's not "time" that makes the world a better place for us, it's the actions of people.

That older generation is the one that did the work of civil rights and gay rights, changing public opinion, and paid for the greater tolerance you're so proud of in yourself. And did so through acts of genuine courage.

 

[Ambrocious]

Older generations hold intractable prejudices against gays in higher proportions. That's not an opinion. That's not ageism. That's a fact. So while it may not be PR, it happens to be true that time has its impact on making the world a better place for us.

A lot of older people hold a whole lot of knowledge and wisdom. Wishing that they would just die off is completely foolish! You may wish for more than the past provided and by all means, we all should hope for more gay rights but don't set down the knowledge of the elderly in replacement for the science of today. I will assure you if I could with my blood that the voices of the the elderly hold more truth than the most prestigious fresh minds of today. Why? Because they have lived it, not simply theorized. They have seen it, not only imagined it. The have lived long and maybe they have something to pass on and offer to us.

I am 27 years old, not exactly an old timer by no means but I can say with absolute certainty that you should hear what those older than you have to say. You will learn much, I promise you.

The tea party movement is an attempt to speak out against the corruption of today but it needs better understanding and the members need more understanding if they wish to be credible. I can understand their oppressed views but they really need more young people to understand also. Asking young people of today to hear them and work with them is like asking a crocodile who happens to be a lawyer if he wants his teeth pulled. Communication is vital to close the generational gap and to help one other actually accomplish real and positive change.

 

[NickCole]

I remember in high school, I had a black English teacher. He went to a seggregated school! And he told us about how he was arrested in Houston because he was black... The suspect in a robbery was a black male. So the cops rounded up every Black male.

He was totally not bitter at all. He told us this during black history month. And I thought then, "why aren't these people in jail?"

Now as a gay adult, these same people deny me a right to marry a man and support a war that has killed three classmates. I'm sill wodering, why aren't these people in jail?

These same people?

For more than a year we've had a Democratic President, first black President in our history, and wide Democratic majority in both chambers of Congress. And that Democratic President, and Democratic Congress, has continued the war in Iraq and amped up the war in Afghanistan, and failed to make the slightest effort to repeal DOMA.

"These same people"? There's unintended insight in there.

 

[Ambrocious]

I'm not wishing anything. I don't have to.

Death is inevitable.

Even with that attitude, it's as if your hoping. Look man, I grantee you that there are a lot of people that would love to tell you about their struggles and life as a gay man...now that they are even maybe 50 or 60! Imagine what you could learn from them.

I wish I knew what I could say to you to let you know that not all older people just need to die or should die. Yes, all people die but eventually, you too will grow old and will have to be in my shoes or the shoes of someone else. You too will have to defend yourself and the understanding that you hold. It's not me wishing that you will be in my shoes one day...it's inevitable.

There is so much more to learn and I have confidence in you that you will learn it if you seek the truth and the wisdom of the past.

 

[NickCole]

I wish I knew what I could say to you to let you know that not all older people just need to die or should die.

They will die.

What JockBoy87 can't see yet is that their dying won't solve any problems and won't lighten the anger he feels.

Somebody, or somebodies, do things that causes that anger in us and then we spread it out, finding others to direct it at.

Anger doesn't go away, it can be hidden or re-directed but when we get burdened with it at an early age it becomes a part of us. The best I've seen is people who figure out how to direct it to something productive -- which is what powered movements like civil rights and gay rights.

Today anger is used to belittle, not as a channel to change, it's so important to be likable and popular even if it's totally faked. Authenticity is considered vulgar and overwhelming. This is an aggressively passive generation, expecting "time" to make changes, waiting for older folks to die. And I think that that, coupled with the rough period we're entering, will cause the upcoming generation --those who are children today who'll grow up in this atmosphere-- to be another revolutionary generation like the one that fought for civil rights, gay rights, women's rights, though of course the battles will be different. Your desire to learn from your elders will make you the wise elder for them.