Teen Missionary on Kenya Trip Allegedly Raped Orphans

[luckynumbah7]

Can I rape him first before you whack him?

No. To rape him first is no worse than 'an eye for an eye', however, you would become what he is and ergo, would get the same treatment.

 

[bankside]

No. To rape him first is no worse than 'an eye for an eye', however, you would become what he is and ergo, would get the same treatment.

Well, if you applied capital punishment, I don't think that would make you a murderer.

If a court sentenced someone to be raped, after a fair trial and for a serious crime, I think there would be a moral difference between someone who carried out the sentence and someone who was a rapist.

Not that I think this is a good idea, just splitting hairs.

 

[JPGhost]

If it was satire it was very bad satire. My take on satire is it can be useful as a tool to induce the 'oh really' type of laughter while simultaneously pointing out what was said as satire is at least incorrect/wrong. Usually when satire is used by just print there's an addendum that's used as a 'punchline' that shows what actually occurs - most people laugh at satirists because they know the truth is coming. However, some people who use satire are just really fucking shitty at it.

The 'My take is -----" is what a hell of a lot of people say in situations like these, so it doesn't really read as satire to me, even if it was meant to be. As y'can no-doubt see by some of the responses on this thread.

*I specified satire because it's one of the few mediums where disparity is used. Other types of 'humor' use different tactics for their goal - and humors' goal isn't always laughter, not by far.

You can directly addressed 'that' to me.
Ok, I'll take your account for future consideration.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Well, if you applied capital punishment, I don't think that would make you a murderer.

If a court sentenced someone to be raped, after a fair trial and for a serious crime, I think there would be a moral difference between someone who carried out the sentence and someone who was a rapist.

Not that I think this is a good idea, just splitting hairs.

I actually disagree with that - or rather, I disagree with how some and words/concepts are used in the judicial system. To me, to do something to another makes you complicit in it, if not actually totally responsible - whether your country or culture smiles upon you for it or not. The sole difference with regards to killing someone and torturing them are one causes physical and mental pain. The other takes about three seconds to actually accomplish, provided there's bullets. Not exactly a lot of time for mental anguish, there. And the only time I'd suggest that (and I don't suggest things without being willing to do them myself) is if the crime was so grievous there is, at best, unlikely that they can be rehabilitated, as it were. Serial killers, human traffikers that sell/trade, that rapist posted in the op, and so forth.

But, our prison system sucks and the justice system is....far from perfect at determining guilt, let alone various levels of guilt. Which is one reason I specified grievous - so there can be no doubt that the actions occurred.

 

[luckynumbah7]

You can directly addressed 'that' to me.
Ok, I'll take your account for future consideration.

Alright.

Regarding your I hate indirectness notification - I did address it to that person, I was talking to Mouf about satire. I highly doubt you want me to post exactly how you managed to fuck up the satire in a four paragraph long mini essay, complete with additional notes and references to outside sources. The shitty satire took up one sentence - how many did you wish me to direct at you in public?

 

[luckynumbah7]

^^Actually, hold that thought - I'm expecting company shortly, have to clean. Back laters.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

"Missionary" is doing god's work.
He should have known sex is not part of god's work.

Maybe he used the missionary position?

 

[zoltanspawn]

“Even if I really came from people who were living like monkeys in trees, it was better to be that than what happened to me, what I became after I met you." --Jamaica Kincaid

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ What does that mean? I am glad I have been helped for two centuries?

 

[pat grimshaw]

It is not true that 200+ years of missionary activity have availed little. Literacy, agriculture, home industry, water purification, Guinea worm, and many other improvements have happened….

You are playing the over-optimistic 'Mary Sunshine' character again. None of us want to go and live in Africa. NONE.

 

[Willie Boy]

Rape isn't good news no matter who is on the receiving end.

Normally I would agree with that, but I just can't seem to find an ounce of compassion for this creature.

 

[zoltanspawn]

^ What does that mean? I am glad I have been helped for two centuries?

I imagine Jamaica feels like you might, were the Chinese to come and 'help' you to live.

 

[pat grimshaw]

I don't know why this needs to be pointed out at all, they're both horrible things to happen to anyone. Whether one considers either worse or not is irrelevant because both of these acts being done to someone is awful and sad.

Maybe so…but it's relevant for the judge who has to decide on a suitable punishment. The judge has to listen to the evidence and decide if it's biased, second-hand evidence or third-hand hearsay.

I suspect a judge would give the strongest punishment for murder, a lesser punishment for rectal-penetration and a milder punishment for sucking-off the teenagers.

 

[mikemizanin729]

his affidavit :

My take is: he's young ^^, he might unaware of the consequences, plus who cares for Kenyans; he's cute:
http://jezebel.com/teen-missionary-on-kenya-trip-allegedly-raped-orphans-1609167358

I hope this was sarcasm because there is nothing CUTE about this monstrosity of a human.

I hope there is a special reservation with his name on it In hell.

 

[zombiekiller]

It is not true that 200+ years of missionary activity have availed little. Literacy, agriculture, home industry, water purification, Guinea worm, and many other improvements have happened. They happen gradually, making it easy to discount them, but that is unfair. Africa yet has many problems, but dismissing the progress made is simply ignoring facts.

If one were to merely credit the help the fistula hospitals are doing, it would bring one to tears. Sure, there are teeming millions in need, but each one that is helped is an improvement, and it matters to those lives and their families.

You can't keep feeding the man fish. At some point, you have to teach him how to fish and he has to have the will to fish on his own.

I can't think of anyone else here more religious than you. Surely, you recognize my reference.

As I said before, we can't keep dumping billions of aid into Africa. At some point, they need to be taught to take care of themselves and they need to have the will.

 

[dereperez]

..and the scary part that kind of thinking is hardly expressed freely but I bet some of us with great deal of ignorance might've been thought like that.

Come again?

 

[xbuzzerx]

You are playing the over-optimistic 'Mary Sunshine' character again. None of us want to go and live in Africa. NONE.

.... I know of at least one Saffer who might disagree.

 

[JPGhost]

Come again?

I was being sarcastic, dont you see?

 

[Kahaih]

You can't keep feeding the man fish. At some point, you have to teach him how to fish and he has to have the will to fish on his own.

. . . .

That's the thing about these missionaries/churches, though, isn't it? These churches/missionaries are all about controlling people and maintaining political power. They don't ever want needy people to be independent/self sufficient.

As soon as one of their 'needy people' doesn't need them, that one could get away - wander off to a different church/religion - they'd lose control of that person.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I suspect a judge would give the strongest punishment for murder, a lesser punishment for rectal-penetration and a milder punishment for sucking-off the teenagers.

I am not going to pretend that I know what goes on in the courtroom, but why you need to know this yourself is again, the disturbing part.

and then I hit a couple of comments saying "this is the worst possible thing.." which I choked on because actually there is something worse.

That is a matter of perspective. Someone who has been raped and going through the physical/emotional/psychological damage as a result might disagree.