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My bad One would think they would already be ready to leave. I would think if you put enough time into signing a petition to secede you would already be ready to go through with it lol.
Y'all talk like Texas is the backwoods, but let me remind you that what you are seeing is the political class, Texas is the second most populous state in the union and we have a very diverse population that is underrepresented in our politics, and this is quite deliberate. People here who would vote dem or other don't vote a lot of times because there is no one encouraging them to do so.
Someone up-thread mentioned raw numbers, well, there is a huge well of non-voters here who could be persuaded to be voters given some encouragement, why should they vote Dem, when there are no Dems around?

TX-Beau said:why should they vote Dem, when there are no Dems around?


As some of my fellow Texans here on JUB know, I've been a Credentialed Member of the Texas Democratic Party, and Precinct Chair going back to Clinton.
The Texas Democratic Party can't find their asses out of a paper bag, even if provided with a flashlight, a map, and GPS smartphone.
Their strategy seems to be to "wait" until the Latino vote is large enough to actually make a difference in State Wide Politics.
And I'm thinking, that the State Democratic Party could ACTUALLY LEAD!
Texas Latinos voted for Paul Sadler by a nearly 3 to 1 margin over the "Tea Party" favorite Ted Cruz who's only connection with Texas Latinos (or Texans for that matter) is that he has a Latin Surname.
Texas Democrats, and the State Party platform is right on Education, Right on Healthcare, Right on the State's infrastructure, Right on Bi-Partisanship, Right on Gay Equality, Right on Religious Freedoms, but the State Party holds back their financial political "war chests" for "just the right" candidate.
That and the State Democratic Party takes its marching orders from the Democratic National Committee.
Which is one of the reasons why Texas Democrats, and Texans as a whole lose, and have been losing State wide Elections since 1994.
The DNC doesn't want Texas to be a "swing state." It's too big, there are too many counties, too many precincts, and a ground game would be to expensive for the National Party to fight here.
The Republican National Committee knows that to, so the two national parties have reduced Texas (and the loudmouth extremists here) as some sort of "political backwater."
Texas Republicans put their party before the people in every election in this State, and TX-Beau is right:
Because what few Dems that actually put their names on the ballot, and who have a solid message, and ideals that most appeal to the Texas electorate, The Texas Democratic Party is "hands off," refusing to take a lead and back one of their own...while they wait.
While the DNC leaders in Washington, DC strategize the Congressional and Senatorial Precincts that they think are cheapest and easiest to win throughout the other 49 or so other states.
I could share more, but I'd be surprised if anyone has read this far.
P.S. I didn't vote in the poll because I think that it's just as knee jerk reactionary...extremist...as those it's meant to lament. Why give them any attention, spotlight, or creedance? It's more fun to point and laugh at their spelling, and how inbred some of them look.



That's a situation strange enough to make readers of a novel shake heads. Why would any of the locals give any support to the state committee? Why not organize their own efforts?

Travis County was of course blue. What about Bexar county?
Bexar County is a major bellwether in presidential elections. Since the 1972 presidential election, the winner of Bexar County has gone on to win the general election. In the 2008 presidential election, Barack Obama carried Bexar County with 52.23% of the vote. This was very similar to his national figure of 52.92%.
Everyone I know here in Florida can't stand Marco Rubio. He's a plastic, fake piece of shit.
The last time that I met up with some Texas Libertarians, their leading candidate was fresh from a Star Trek Convention, and hadn't completely removed his Klingon make up.
So you tell me.

IGNATE is a way of saying ignorant.... the urban dictionary is your friend...
Confused rambling diatribe? I didn't say they weren't playing by the rules ...they weren't invited here, either. They came thousands of years ago in waves...they were looking for space for their communities and tribes. The term for them is ancient or original Americans.... and I understand full well our sad and terrible treatment of ancient Americans and for good measure those we forcibly brought here in chains from Africa and their descendants. I emphasized they're not NATIVE Americans as they are not native to the Western Hemisphere and really wish that mischaracterization never became the politically correct term...they ARE the first immigrants. I never implied OR stated they weren't playing by the rules.And here Ninja thought Texas was complaining about immigration. Actually Immigration Reform is NOT hated in Texas with the same vehemence tea baggers elsewhere hate it - that's what ultimately sunk Perry with the pub "fear the brown horde," base.
To Saucy and his kinda confused rambling diatribe - it sounds like you are saying that Native Americans didn't play "by the rules," but since this was their country and they didn't invite any of us, neither did anyone else.
AN yes it WAS their country until we killed a bunch of them off and took it by force. I will agree it's kinda silly to cal them Americans since it WAS their country long before there was an America North or South. I suppose you'll just have to suck that one up to being a universally understandable reference tag.
Confused rambling diatribe? I didn't say they weren't playing by the rules ...they weren't invited here, either. They came thousands of years ago in waves...they were looking for space for their communities and tribes. The term for them is ancient or original Americans.... and I understand full well our sad and terrible treatment of ancient Americans and for good measure those we forcibly brought here in chains from Africa and their descendants. I emphasized they're not NATIVE Americans as they are not native to the Western Hemisphere and really wish that mischaracterization never became the politically correct term...they ARE the first immigrants. I never implied OR stated they weren't playing by the rules.
Native Americans is a term I dislike....they're not native, they're the first wave of immigrants to the North and South American continents coming in from Asia. Legal immigration is a good thing, and it's pathetic how difficult it's become for those who have played by the rules to have to jump through hoops to become citizens. The cost of processing documents has skyrocketed. We have to control the borders, though in a workable and humane way that gives those here illegally a path to some potential legal status but all carrot and no stick cannot work. We can't keep giving blanket amnesty and swear the problem is solved.... serious immigration reform is something that has to be an immediate priority. Things now look very promising on that front for the first time in ages.
We committed Genocide and stole their land. They were the occupants before we did that to them.
Most of the genocide was unintentional. No one back then understood how people from more populous/crowded areas moving into areas less so inevitably bring with them diseases to which the natives have no widespread immunity. Long before white faces ever seriously settled beyond the Appalachians, four out of five inhabitants of Utah, the Dakotas, and beyond were dropping dead from horrors they'd never faced before.
If the disease issue hadn't been there, westward expansion would have been a far, far different story.

