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Texas: U.S. Supreme Court Halts Execution

Thank you. This is finally getting attention of the right people. This man is the only one who was not given a new trial. The others had no problem getting the new trial.
If a new jury finds him guilty then go ahead and murder him. However, I have change my mind about executions. Give them life without parole. That would punish them.
 
White Eagle said:
If a new jury finds him guilty then go ahead and murder him.
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Ummm. He admits to the killings. Even his lawyer concedes that he is a double murder.

His attorneys had asked both the Supreme Court and Texas Gov. Rick Perry to halt the execution because of a psychologist’s testimony that black people were more likely to commit violence. Buck’s guilt is not being questioned
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-in-sentence/2011/09/16/gIQArK9YWK_story.html
 
White Eagle said:
Thank you. This is finally getting attention of the right people. This man is the only one who was not given a new trial. The others had no problem getting the new trial.
If a new jury finds him guilty then go ahead and murder him. However, I have change my mind about executions. Give them life without parole. That would punish them.
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The question was over whether he would get a new sentencing trial. Not a trial to establish guilt. The racial stuff was used at his original sentencing.
 
That's too bad. What's Governor Yosemite Sam Perry going to do with his afternoon if he can't kill someone?

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So if SCOTUS decides his hearing was fair, he gets a new execution date; if SCOTUS decides it was unfair, he gets a new hearing.

If he gets a new hearing, the new panel may decide he should still be executed, in which case he gets a new date; or they may decide he shouldn't be executed, in which case his sentence drops to life (without parole, I believe).
 
Kulindahr said:
So if SCOTUS decides his hearing was fair, he gets a new execution date; if SCOTUS decides it was unfair, he gets a new hearing.

If he gets a new hearing, the new panel may decide he should still be executed, in which case he gets a new date; or they may decide he shouldn't be executed, in which case his sentence drops to life (without parole, I believe).
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That's the one I believe in now. Life!!!
 
hotatlboi said:
The question was over whether he would get a new sentencing trial. Not a trial to establish guilt. The racial stuff was used at his original sentencing.
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The others that had the same racist implications in their trials got the new sentencing hearings. This one should have gotten it too.\

It's the prosecutors here in Texas, Like OJ's prosecutors. They go for a race to judgement and make the mistakes that cause new trials or not guilty results, again, like OJ. Something needs to be done to keep that down. Then, maybe, we could stop all these new trials. It just costs taxpayers more money.
 
White Eagle said:
The others that had the same racist implications in their trials got the new sentencing hearings. This one should have gotten it too.

It's the prosecutors here in Texas, Like OJ's prosecutors. They go for a race to judgement and make the mistakes that cause new trials or not guilty results, again, like OJ. Something needs to be done to keep that down. Then, maybe, we could stop all these new trials. It just costs taxpayers more money.
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Having a public advocates office, funded equally or better to the prosecutor, helps. It tends to make the prosecutor be more interested in truth.
 
Texas does seem to be the death machine Auschwitz of the USA... But hey, at least we have something in common with China, North Korea, the middle east..
 
This guy is a double murderer,and he could very well receive the DP if this sentence is vacated.
However, they can't use his race like they did this time.
 
guyfromNY said:
Texas does seem to be the death machine Auschwitz of the USA... But hey, at least we have something in common with China, North Korea, the middle east..
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You do realize that Texas has only executed 10 people this year.

That makes you compare Texas to Auschwitz???? :help::help::help:](*,)](*,)](*,)
 
justapixel said:
You do realize that Texas has only executed 10 people this year.

That makes you compare Texas to Auschwitz???? :help::help::help:](*,)](*,)](*,)
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Hey Hey! :bartshock

Since when are you and I supposed to agree on something? :eek:

:kiss:

I have my own opinions about Texas' death penalty; "don't to the crime if you're not willing to do the time."

What's at question here is the judicial humanity of it.

Texas Governor, and 2012 GOP POTUS Candidate Rick Perry thinks that if they were convicted by a Jury of their Peers, then that's all that matters.

Forget the facts that in some of the cases there's no DNA evidence, or witnesses connecting them to the crime, forget the fact that even an admission of guilt (even if they're lying) still let's the actual murderer go free, forget the fact that in a lot of case the "court appointed attorney" either was a no show at the trial, or was to incompetent to launch any legal defense.

Strap that Mother Fucker to the table and KILL HIS ASS! (!)

Except there's this thing in the American Legal system (might be the Constitution, maybe you've read it), called Due Process.

Growing up in Texas I was always taught by my FDR Democrat Grandparents, and Great Aunts and Uncles Due Process is what separates us from the Vigilantes of Western Yore.

Of course that didn't stop some of them from stringing up some "niggra" on the courthouse square because he was merely accused of looking at a "white girl" the wrong way, but being from Texas the logic is supposed to make sense.

:rolleyes:

I guess what I'm trying to say is, my feelings about the Texas Death Penalty is a little nuanced.

I just figure that if someone is going to charge their balls, and spew their load all over the place every time another Texas Death Row Inmate is Executed, and to garner "political points" in hopes of winning the White House, that person might go out of their way to ensure that the process that led to their personal genital pleasure was done by the book and letter of the law, and ensured that not a single "innocent" died for the crimes of someone else.

Otherwise it's barbaric, and "vigilante," fuck Due Process, and get me elected bitches, because I'm tough on crime!

But to compare Huntsville, Texas to Auschwitz, Germany?

That's more than a stretch, and takes more away from the atrocities there, than adds to the discussion here.

Mark your calendar justapixel. ..|

You and I actually agreed on something.

Maybe sometime in the future you and I can mark this date as a personal "holiday" between the two of us. :luv:

:p
 
CowboyBob said:
Only 10 people?! :eek:

That's 10 too many.
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OR 10 to few.

Rick Perry is pandering to the Tea Party vote after all.

Perhaps if we could come up with a Government Financial Expenditure, of how much it costs to put to death a death row inmate, and factor in the cost of "unlawful death" suits, and "out of court costs" that the "Government" spends to settle those suits.

I wonder how quick that they'd be to end that aspect of "government" while going after teacher pensions, and Social Security. :p

Keeland said:
Don't do the crime and Texas will murder you anyway. It probably uses Draino now that the company that makes the poison stopped supplying it for state murders.

Texas.

The U.S.

Choose a state.
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Five letters: MERCK.

They may have only contributed $5,000 USD to Rick Perry's campaign, but that $5,000 pays off in dividends. ;)
 
 
<<You do realize that Texas has only executed 10 people this year.

That makes you compare Texas to Auschwitz????>>

Actually, the comparison had more to do with the cold, mechanized efficiency with which they kill people. It is a sick and disgusting thing and in my opinion should be a thing of the past.
 
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