The Big Brother USA All-Stars Fan Thread! (Merged)

[falconfan]

Danielle made a weird comment on the Julie Chen interview today and she sort of implied that if Janelle and Will were in the final 2,Janelle would win.

Apparently none of this matters because Will has made an agreement to split the money with Boogie and Janelle if any of them win. And of course like everything else this season that sucks because according to Jun Song (winner of BB4 and financial consultant/investment banker) she has read the contracts for this season and there is nothing prohibiting them from splitting the money.

So it doesn't really matter who wins unless they are really into having the title.

I hate this season and can't wait until next year when there are new people to love and hate.

Will and Boogie TOLD JANELLE they'd split the money. That doesn't mean it's going to happen and I don't think that Janelle is expecting it to either. BUt their strategy was to tell this to both Janelle and Erika. Then say for that reason Will will volunteer to be the third one gone. Erika believes them because she's stupid. I think Janelle knows she's not splitting up CT

 

[falconfan]

I was thinking the same thing. That bothered me so much that 4 minutes. I would have been sure she would have nominated CT if she hadn't talking to Will. So frustrating.

No she wouldn't have. If you remember in her Diary Room when she was talking about Erika she said she had to tell a fib and say she was after CT. She's never been against CT. CT has been THE ONLY ONES WILLING TO WORK WITH HER.

As for Danielle? What was Janelle suppose to do manufacture a SECOND vote? Voting it was her and CT two votes against hers. Hers was irrelevent. So why dissent and make Will question her loyalty?

 

[icefan]

I really wanted Danielle to win. I thought she played the game very well up to the last few days when she started letting her feelings get to her. Now that she is gone, I would have to say Will & Janey have played the game the best, so hopefully they will be final 2 for me

 

[Lostlover]

No, Danielle was trying to avenge James' eviction all the way til the end. She swore many times that she wanted CT out.

Danielle made it clear that she was after Janelle when she nominated her. After Erika's POV, she did put up Boogie but it wasn't her choice to decide whether Mike or George went. It was Erika and Will who voted and kept boogie.

 

[Jadin32]

I'm just going to chime in on a few different subjects that are being covered here:

Janelle and why she is taking out the girls in the game. I don't think it is because she wants to be the only female in the house. I think she just thinks that she can manipulate someone with a dick (ie. Will with boogie). She thinks she's stronger with her alliance with CT compared to everyone else in the house.

Would Janelle have nominated CT if she wasn't given the four minute prep time. NO! Janelle is not after CT. She thinks she has will wrapped around her finger. There is no way she will be nominated him anytime soon. Boogie maybe to weaken Will's other alliance (and boogie's alliance with Erika).

Big Brother being scripted. There is no way big brother is scripted! Do you actually believe that the producers give the contestants lines or tell them how to act during any time of this game? Where is this done? The Diary Room? And why don't any of the contestant mention this after the game is over? I'm sure the disgruntled game players sure would. But they don't. Because it's not scripted!

Do the producers do certain things to promote dramatic effect. Of Course. But that's the whole point of this game. They're stuck in a house together. We want to see how they will react to eachother when they have no other outlets to release their stress and frustrations.

And now here are some of my predictions. Scarey to think this way but at least one of CT's members will be the final two.

If Janelle wins the last HOH Will will be going with her.
Erika will take Boogie.

The chances of Will and boogie winning HOH. Slim. I don't think Will is trying to through any of the competitions. He just sucks. And he says he throws them to protect his ego. "Of course I never win any competitions, I throw them all". My Ass.

Boogie has won a few. But he's just a puppet. He can't make any decisions on his own. He's Will's bitch. I'm surprised no one has suspected some sort of sexual relationship with Will and Boogie. I can totally see it.

And on a final note. Erika! You're so friggin dumb girl! You should have kept Danielle in the house because they you would have at least had a chance to win second place and 50Gs. By voting her out, you have guaranteed yourself at best 3rd place (unless you win the final HOH). And I really pity her when she gets out of the house and sees the videos and how she was played by a prick like boogie. Poor Girl

This is a quote from Radar magazine or you can search "rewriting reality radar "and read the whole article.
Anyway it states
"Staffers from such series as 'Big Brother 2" and "Joe Millionaire" come clean on how scenes are SCRIPTED, footage contrived, sound bites scrambled and even alcohol infused to get sought after results from their performers."

Dani seemed pretty drunk to me!

If this was happening way back in season 2 you can imagine what they are doing now??
To believe reality t.v. is all "real" and not scripted is like believing Dr. Will has your back!!!!!

 

[iggypop]

How can big brother be scripted when you can watch 24/7 live feeds of them? They don't talk to any producers, they don't talk to any writers...if they did, you'd see them do it. They're isolated. Plain and simple. Nothing is scripted with big brother. It's impossible to do BECAUSE of the live feeds. People would be all over that show if they saw any of them talking to outsiders.

 

[fallacyflow]

This is a quote from Radar magazine or you can search "rewriting reality radar "and read the whole article.
Anyway it states
"Staffers from such series as 'Big Brother 2" and "Joe Millionaire" come clean on how scenes are SCRIPTED, footage contrived, sound bites scrambled and even alcohol infused to get sought after results from their performers."

Footage being contrived and sound bites scrambled = edited. Not scripted in my books. Alcohol being infused? That's creating drama! Get them drunk and see how they make fools of themselves. You mentioned that Dani was drunk during one of the more recent episodes and that was part of the whole scripting conspiracy. Dani got drunk because there was booze in the house. It could have easily been CH or CT or Erika or Janelle getting drunk. The producers weren't thinking "let's give them booze and Dani will get drunk, explode and go crazy on everyone". It's just part of the game.

I think I see where you're coming from when you say 'scripted'. If I'm right you're trying to state that what is going on in the house isn't naturally occuring. Well it's not naturally occuring. People don't lock themselves away in a house for a whole summer and kick people out every week.

Should we by saying that BB is scripted because every week someone leaves? No. It's just part of the game.

 

[HiddenMalePassion-]

I am in disbelief when I watch this season.

I can't fucking believe, that even after seeing him in his season, and knowing his fucking reputation, they still fall for it. He is a shit player, but is a fucking manipulator of manipulators. Quite literally. It is a combination of that and the rest of the house being so stupid to not kick his ass out.

Boogie is nothing, he should just thank himself for making friends with Will outside of the house.

 

[Joshua_me]

I can't fucking believe, that even after seeing him in his season, and knowing his fucking reputation, they still fall for it.

And that's just what doesn't 'ring true' about this entire season.

Is the entire thing scripted ? No.

But, something is up. Anyone with half a brain would have done all they
could to get Boogie and espcially Dr. Will out of the house as soon as possible.

And yet, NONE of them did ? Week after week all the 'houseguests' (who have, of course, been thru all this before) just turned a blind eye to Mike and
Will ??

It strains credibility.

Life...Even 'reality TV' life has a certain logic and 'common sense' aspect to it, which as been totally lacking in this season.

I'm the first to admit I have no idea what's really going on...

But, something smells fishy.

Joshy

 

[iggypop]

They didn't care about will because they figured if they took him to the end, no one would vote for him because he already won. Will was good at throwing competitions to make him appear week, make them all think he doesnt care about the game...and it worked. Danielle finally caught on towards the end, but it was too late.

 

[falconfan]

I am so tired of here how everyone would've taken out Will. I got news for you... no you wouldn't. That's why he IS damn good. Week 2 Janey wanted to veto one of Kays nominations and put up Will but that never happened because the man knows how to manipulate and more importantly he knows WHO to manipulate. You have to realize what looks so obvious to us isn't obvious to someone on the inside because they're not watching. Yea Will made it this far that doesn't mean it's scripted, that doesn't mean theres foul play it means WILL IS GOOD. YOu know how you know he's good? You've been watching him manipulate these people. They haven't been watching they've been busy being manipulated.

And too all the people saying the producer needed him to make the show entertaining... well yes he and Janelle have made the show what it is this season but if they got booted the show would've been entertaining in a different way. Other things that are innately dramatic would've happened with other people. For god's sake people. People do stupid things. The reality TV landscape is littered with people who've done stupid things. Cough *Marcellias* Cough. If you think it's scripted don't watch or watch and shut up. But if it were scripted Diane would be more than happy to out them because she's been bitching sicne her ass got kicked out of the house. If it were scripted then CBS would be opening itself up to 20 LAWSUITS from "contestants" cheated out of the money and 3 moths of their lives. Enough with the conspiracy theories.

 

[falconfan]

I was begining to think for a minute there that Jani was as taken in by Will as she acts. But her ending comment about knowing all three of them were after her and that if she doesn't win the veto she's homeward bound. So the girl is still grounded, at least partially. Not that the same can be said for Erika. I want to hit that woman in the face with a shovel I feel like in the end it would actually be less painful for her. One thing that bothers me is that if Janie does win veto and send Erika home Erika would still give Boogie or Will the money because she doesn't realize they're working against her. She'll think it's just Janelle.

 

[uflyguy]

Well, now is the time to see if Janelle is really thinking about winning the money. She has to know that none of the three of them are probably going to be taking her to the final 2 no matter who wins, so she basically has to win HOH this week. The next thing would be IF she wins HOH, who would she rather have there to take to the final two, Will, Erica or Boogie. I think Will would probably have a decent chance of getting enough votes to win, just because of his play. On the other hand, if Janey really was looking at getting the money in the end, she should vote out Will this week and hope she wins HOH to take Erica or Boogie since I think she could beat either of these two vs Will at the final vote. I guess we'll see if she has been paying attention and really "playing" Will like she says. Also, if she doesnt win HOH and Erica did, I'd really be putting the "Chilltown" plan in place by letting Erica know that CT had plans to vote her out all along and she should take Janelle and not Boogie. This should be a good week.

 

[Jadin32]

They didn't care about will because they figured if they took him to the end, no one would vote for him because he already won. Will was good at throwing competitions to make him appear week, make them all think he doesnt care about the game...and it worked. Danielle finally caught on towards the end, but it was too late.

Everyone says Will throws the comps! Yet even in these past few events he hasn't won!
I think he is just good at blowing smoke up people's asses!
And Janelle has been throwing herself at him forever and he just acts like a shy school boy....shouldn't he be hittin' that????
Hell it seems some gay guys would like to sleep with her!
Is Dr. Will gay??

 

[falconfan]

Everyone says Will throws the comps! Yet even in these past few events he hasn't won!
I think he is just good at blowing smoke up people's asses!
And Janelle has been throwing herself at him forever and he just acts like a shy school boy....shouldn't he be hittin' that????
Hell it seems some gay guys would like to sleep with her!
Is Dr. Will gay??

A, Just because someone doesn't want to have sex on national TV doesn't mean they're gay.

B. Will has a girlfriend and Janelle has a boyfriend They just have a mutual fake romance for both their benefits unlike Erika and Boogie's relationship which is a parasitic fake relationship only to Boogie's benefit.

C. Surge pointed out hte most important thing though. Erika needs to go. Janey needs to win this last comp. Period so Janie has to go. Chilltown has been "throwing" comps all season... BULLSHIT... they just say that because they loose. Boogie has one two and hung on to the final to in another one. And as for Will, well to quote Janey at comps "I think he's actually as bad as George."

 

[falconfan]

I suggest any one who doesn't mind spoilers check the live feed recaps for what happened.

 

[Corkles]

And that's just what doesn't 'ring true' about this entire season.

Is the entire thing scripted ? No.

But, something is up. Anyone with half a brain would have done all they
could to get Boogie and espcially Dr. Will out of the house as soon as possible.

And yet, NONE of them did ? Week after week all the 'houseguests' (who have, of course, been thru all this before) just turned a blind eye to Mike and
Will ??

It strains credibility.

Life...Even 'reality TV' life has a certain logic and 'common sense' aspect to it, which as been totally lacking in this season.

I'm the first to admit I have no idea what's really going on...

But, something smells fishy.

Joshy

Joshy,remember that Season 6 essentially 'controlled the house' (because they had 4 players)and they won HOH 4 times in a row...they maintain that they wanted to keep Chilltown around so that they would not be the only targets. What ended up happening is that the season 6 alliance was decimated,but Chilltown remained intact. Partly due to luck and partly due to strategy.

The thing that seems fishy to me is the fact that everytime Janelle was nominated for eviction,she won the veto.

I loved Janelle last season,but I think things are tainted this year.

 

[Joshua_me]

I loved Janelle last season,but I think things are tainted this year.

Corkles, Honey, I'm sure you are neither the 1st nor will you be the last person to use the
words 'Janelle' and 'tainted' in the same sentence.

(I'm such a bitch, I know)

But seriously, after giving a tad too much thought to the entire thing, given far more important things going on in the world, I think what happened is several members got together beforehand (no rules against this) and decided how they were going to play things out in front of the camera.

As to the above post that said, "It's scripted, duh" Umm...No offense to all the Howie fans out there, but do you really think he'd be smart enough to pull something like that off ? (He's got "L" and "R" printed on his shoes, for goodness sake)

I think the plan from the beginning was to have 'Chilltown win', and split the money, while a relatively clueless America tuned in and learned about the new line of Swiffer products on the market from week to week.

It may not all be for naught, after all... Perhaps they'll all pitch in and buy
Julie Chen something resembling a personality that includes independent thought.

Hope springs eternal.

 

[HiddenMalePassion-]

Ugh, I actually got a little aroused from Booger naked, ew.

 

[miztab13]

Eww.. Boogie's so gross