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The Big HT "How religious are YOU?" poll 2009

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How religious are you? Explanations below


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blackbeltninja

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So

I went to a Quiz Night fund-raiser a few weeks ago at the church my oldest mate is a member of, with a whole bunch of our friends. About half of our crowd is particularly religious, the other half range between being Christian but not really doing the church/Bible study/etc thing to being agnostic to being atheist.

Personally, I can count on two fingers the number of times I've been to a church service that wasn't attached to either a wedding, christening or funeral - I am atheist or agnostic, depending on what sort of mood I'm in. However, I share an office with several very religious people as well as a handful of a similar disposition to myself.

So I was wondering - how religious are JUBbers in general? Pick the one which describes you best, or closest, from the list above; explanantions are shown below.

-d-

Important Notes:
-For reference, we're excluding homosexuality from being anti-church for the purposes of this discussion. Assume things like gambling, drinking, drugs, swearing, pre-marital sex, hook-ups, vandalism etc as questionable behaviour for this poll. We're assuming that no decent church exists which would cast aspersions on our sexuality (hey look - a flying pig!)
-God in this case is your god/s, whomever (s)he/they may be. The Bible in this case is anything your church would use as reference material.
-This is a non-denominational poll
-This poll is public.


Poll options:
1. Extremely religious - you do the going to church bit as well as attending things like cell groups/Bible study and pray often, trusting everything in your life to a higher power and living to worship that higher power. You are a fairly active member of the church. If you were a youth member now, you'd probably wear a promise ring and not drink alcohol. Religion in all forms is particularly important to you and everyone around you knows it.

2. Religious - you do the church bit regularly and pray and have a strong faith, but those around you who don't know you really well might not realise it. If you were a youth member you'd probably not wear the promise ring but would adhere to the suggested lifestyle.

3. Fairly religious - you have a faith and belong to a church, but are not a guaranteed regular at the services. You might engage in behaviour, homosexuality aside, which others might find questionable - pre-marital sex, drinking, smoking etc.

4. Faithful - you pray occasionally and go to church occasionally. Mentioning this to anyone would not be a surprise to them. You pick and choose which aspects of your faith you follow and allow yourself some generous leeway.

5. Faithful enough - you haven't seen the inside of a church in some time, but you pray occasionally and believe in the same tenets as anyone else from your denomination. People around you might be surprised by finding out you are religious at all. You would probably say you're anti organised religion if anyone were to question any aspect of your behaviour with respect to the teachings and guidelines of the church, but you do believe firmly in a god of sorts.

6. Spiritual, not religious - you pray, maybe. You live your life your own way and don't trust in any power higher than yourself to get you through anything, even though you do believe in a God. You hope you'll have been good enough to get into heaven, or whatever your faith has, after death.

7. Agnostic - maybe there is, maybe there isn't, not enough evidence to heavily influence you in the direction of the nearest church.

8. Atheist - enough said.
 
Other?

I refuse to have this "special" status regarding the existence of God. I used to label myself as an atheist, but I've come to realize that this is perhaps one of the few situations in life that I can't seem to form an opinion about because it doesn't fit with my brain's agenda.

Fine, he/it does exist. Big fuck. It's not going to change me. Smite me for all I care. Fine, he/it doesn't exist, big fuck again. I dunno, maybe it's some kind of a brain impairment, but I just can't seem to care enough about the whole matter.

God is like this unproven theory and everyone has been forced to have an opinion about it. I just can't seem to be bothered.

Me and God, two parallel lines.
 
I call myself an agnostic, though in your lexicon I suppose I'm more spritual-but-not-religious.

I believe in a power greater than myself (hell, everything is a power greater than myself, from Visa to gravity), and I do have what you might call a "spiritual practice" insofar as I pray to and meditate on that Power fairly regularly.

But I refuse, on the grounds that it's futile and dangerous, to make any statements or decisions about what God is or isn't. That God exists and is interested in individuals I take as a given, that God is the central intelligence and moving force of the universe is my own personal spin on it, but beyond that I'm not committing myself. That's the very nature of agnosticism.

My focus remains on Christianity, though... for while I don't believe in Christianity (nor do I disbelieve...I simply question), I do attend a Christian church with my grandmother, and spend a lot of time there pondering the oddities of that faith and the inconsistencies of belief indulged in by its followers.
 
I'm assuming those who score over a certain amount will get banned for life from JUB?

Lex
 
Another one for "Spiritual, not religious"

"Be Still, and Know That I AM..."

I'm quite certain there is a higher power above us.

But, I'm also certain that as human beings vibrating in the third dimension we lack the capability to even begin to understand or grasp what is really going on.

So, I have faith.

But to me, arguing over which faith is 'right' is just silly. It's Jesus ! It's Buddha ! No, it's Allah !!

C'mon. :rolleyes:

I suspect all roads lead to the same destination.

For me, 'organized religion' is an oxymoron. Religion is to faith what congress is to democracy. Two great concepts eternally screwed up by short-sighted men with their own agendas.
 
You said it best yourself:

I am atheist or agnostic, depending on what sort of mood I'm in.

I'm more atheist than agnostic. Basically, I place the burden of proof on the religious ones. No proof? Then I'm inclined not to believe. But hey, I'm not an atheist in principle - I'm willing to consider the existence of a deity if there are good enough arguments for it. Currently, there aren't.
 
Agnostic, I don't beleive in god and there is not any evidence to support theists or atheists.
 
Atheist, definitely. The problem of evil and suffering, never properly solved by centuries of theology, is a good proof of the non-existence of any god. Stephen Law's The God of Eth is a good place to start reading.

-T.
 
You didn't put a category far enough away from religious to even get close to my ballpark.
 
Atheist, definitely. The problem of evil and suffering, never properly solved by centuries of theology, is a good proof of the non-existence of any god. Stephen Law's The God of Eth is a good place to start reading.

-T.


Bingo. When posed with this question, most of the god-botherers that I've encountered give that almighty copout of it all being part of gods plan and that we'll all understand it come the kingdom of the beardy chap. If that were the case, frankly this is a deity isn't worth my devotions. Inflicting the horrors that occur in this world, often to people that just happen to be born in the wrong part of the globe, just so that he can stick to some cosmic time-table...mhmmmm, nah fuck that.
 
^Not to debate beliefs, but there's something I've never understood: how does the existence of what we call evil prove the nonexistence of God? Certainly I don't believe that the God described in the Bible is real, but how would that preclude the existence of a God who is not like the one described in the Bible? And why would my dislike of the agenda and principles of God preclude the existence of said God?

Just wondering... the nature of the agnostic is to question. Please continue.
 
None of those listed. I don't attend any church, I don't pray to any god, but I don't consider myself agnostic, or atheist. As someone with a 'confucianist' upbringing, my considerations are to my forebeares. None of them are gods as far as I know, but being my predecessors, they're worthy of my honouring of them and my patronage and upkeep of their graves and remembrances.
 
I did none of the things listed under extremely religious, but I consider myself extremely religious.
 
^Not to debate beliefs, but there's something I've never understood: how does the existence of what we call evil prove the nonexistence of God? Certainly I don't believe that the God described in the Bible is real, but how would that preclude the existence of a God who is not like the one described in the Bible? And why would my dislike of the agenda and principles of God preclude the existence of said God?

Just wondering... the nature of the agnostic is to question. Please continue.


Short answer, it doesn't disprove the existence of a god, just the judeo-christian one.
 
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