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The Hobbit

I am as big a huge Tolkien fan, but reading that just made me think:

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - 2012
The Hobbit: There and Back Again - 2013
The Hobbit: Milking it for all it's Worth - 2014

Sad.

Does anyone really think the Hobbit story will take three (presumably three hour) films to tell?
 
Does anyone really think the Hobbit story will take three (presumably three hour) films to tell?
No, which is why PJ is getting his extra material from the LotR Appendices.

Why is this sad? If it turns out to be as good as all the other Tolkien stuff PJ has done, then does it matter to fans if he is milking it? As long as it is enjoyable and similar in quality to the other films, that's all I care about. I guess we won't really know until 2014 either way.
 
No, which is why PJ is getting his extra material from the LotR Appendices.

Why is this sad? If it turns out to be as good as all the other Tolkien stuff PJ has done, then does it matter to fans if he is milking it? As long as it is enjoyable and similar in quality to the other films, that's all I care about. I guess we won't really know until 2014 either way.

Actually, I didn't even think all of the other Tolkien stuff that he has done was that great. With the possible exception of the extended edition of Fellowship, I found the other instalments substandard. They lacked the finesse and intricacies of the books. That and the fact that he left out The Scouring of the Shire, even in the extended edition of the third film has put me off side.

I may change my mind once I see the final product. We shall see.
 
I saw Cloud Atlas over the weekend and The Studio that is distributing The Hobbit released more trailer footage...My earlier concerns about the Flick being a bit cheesy and comedy-heavy were put to rest. The new footage featured many scenes with Gandalf, the Hobbits and their adventure. The footage was so good I wanted to see more. They should have packaged it better months ago instead of weeks before the release......

With the new footage it's now a Deff must see....
 
I'm not sure where they are going to fit Legolas into the movie.

The appendices, from which a lot of the extraneous material will be taken, states that Legolas was the son of the Wood-elf king, Thranduil.

While not named in the HOBBIT, Thranduil does appear: he's the elf-king in Mirkwood that puts the dwarves in his dungeon while Bilbo skulks around invisible with the ring (and eventually dumps them all into barrels to be floated to Dale). The latter scene is in the early trailers.

So Legalos had to be around Thranduil's palace somewhere during that time, as his son; I imagine he'll bump into Bilbo (literally, haha) and keep his secret or something like that. Also, the Battle of the 5 Armies will have the elves, too, presumably the wood-elves among them, so Legolas gets to fight later.

Radagast the Brown is in some of the early trailers: when Gandalf leaves the dwarves at the entrance to Mirkwood, it is to gather the White Council (Saruman and the two other secret ring-bearers, Elrond and Galadriel; Gandalf has the third elf ring) to drive out the Necromancer (who is an early form of Sauron). Gandalf met Thorin's father in the dungeons of the Necromancer while checking to see if the Necromancer was Sauron returned, which is where he gets the map at the beginning of the HOBBIT with the secret entrance. Thorin's father had a dwarf ring, but the Necromancer took it away from him before putting him in the dungeon, but apparently didn't find the map. Orcs make sloppy jailors, apparently, lol.

I suspect Jackson will bring up Thorin's father's story through Gandalf at the beginning of the HOBBIT, just like the book. That sets up the side-plot of driving the Necromancer out of Mirkwood (and into Mordor, eventually), tying all the films together, and allowing Saruman, Elrond, and Galadriel to be in the story as well.

My best guess is that Jackson will follow the pattern of the LOTR films, and have a skirmish end the first film (the Warg attack after they escape from the Goblin king?), the White Council battling the Necromancer at the end of the second film, and of course the Battle of the 5 Armies at the end of the final film.

Should be a cool magical battle between the White Council and Sauron in his Necromancer form! Radagast is a very minor figure, even in the appendices, but he talked to animals, so I suppose that's him with the furry critters in the trailers, sending a message to Gandalf that the Necromancer might be Sauron returned. There were two other wizards in the appendices, part of the five Istari with Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast, but they weren't even named, and presumably were away down South or East on other errands.

(Can you tell I've read and reread the books since childhood? :lol: )
 
Actually, I didn't even think all of the other Tolkien stuff that he has done was that great. With the possible exception of the extended edition of Fellowship, I found the other instalments substandard. They lacked the finesse and intricacies of the books. That and the fact that he left out The Scouring of the Shire, even in the extended edition of the third film has put me off side.

I may change my mind once I see the final product. We shall see.

This.

I'm trying to keep an open mind but I must admit i'm a little worried, lol. ;)
 
snoooze fest.

i will pass

lord of the rings was too litle action for me.

the books where way more entertaining than the movies.

i will pass on the hobbit


i rather watch avengers and spiderman at least you get some good action and not just some weirdd drama
 
What is the adventure? Didn't Frodo already destroy the Ring? Are there any elves in this?
 
This should satisfy anyone with a dwarf fetish. A few of these actually look hot.

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On a not strictly related note;

In the last month or so, the post office has started stamping the mail with Middle Earth instead of New Zealand in my city.

Weird.
 
Rumors are saying early previews of the film are mostly negative. The 48 frames/second (vs. the usual 24) is said to be stripping away the cinematic feel of film. It is trying to fix what was never broken. People are saying it is like watching a live broadcast television show. People saying this are hardcore LotR fans too. Hopefully Jackson fixes it up and pulls off another epic. I would be crushed if this ends up sucking as much as people are saying it does.:( No word if they watched the preview in 3D or not.'The Hobbit' 48FPS Footage Divides Audiences At CinemaCon
I believe the 48fps version in only being released for High Frame Rate Imax 3D. Could be wrong. I always turn off motion interpolation on my tv, the extra frames make video look odd.

Most new flatscreens have this option, turn it on and see how you like it. I think Samsung labels it 'trumotion' in display settings.
 
Hopefully I'll be lined up to watch this at launch like the other LOTR related movies. I generally don't take anything related to the early previews and whatnot seriously since a lot has to happen before then.
 
10 days. . . .!

Have a premier IMAX 3D ticket and arranged to take the next day off so I don't have to work after staying up late :gogirl:
 
Because Jackson has taken a sweet fantasy adventure novel that was written for children and turned it into an epic 3 movie spectacle.

And also I feel like we were shortchanged with the Lord of the Rings films. If he can get three movies out of the hobbit then he should have gotten NINE movies out of the Lord of the Rings.
 
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