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The House approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests

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I'm tired of getting these emails! What could the Congress possibly do nextj?
This bill will outlaw many 1st amendment rights. Anywhere the Secret Service is covering
an asshole running for President and the Conventions will be outlawed from protest.
Paul is one of the very few (3 I think) that voted against it.
And the Senate passed it too!
HR 347 just passed - is this real?

Just when you thought the government couldn’t ruin the First Amendment any further: The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.
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Under H.R. 347, a federal law will formally be applied to such instances, but will also allow the government to bring charges to protesters, demonstrators and activists at political events and other outings across America.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr347enr.pdf

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h347/news_blogs
 
Not unexpected.

As the US slides toward an oligarchical state, the right to protest will become more and more a privilege only accorded to state sanctioned assemblies.

It is for the security and safety and the good of everyone.

Sad.

Isn't it?
 
this bill is probably to shield government officials from upcoming constitutional rights violations

What lies behind the unprecedented attack on the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is a growing understanding in the ruling class that the protests that took place around the world against social inequality in 2011 will inevitably re-emerge in more powerful forms in 2012 and beyond, as austerity measures and the crashing economy make the conditions of life more and more impossible for the working class. The virtually unanimous support in Congress for H.R. 347, among Democrats as well as Republicans, reflects overriding sentiment within the ruling establishment for scrapping all existing democratic rights in favor of dictatorial methods of rule.

http://obrag.org/?p=55812&cpage=1
 
Where've you been? The Senate passed it by unanimous consent and now it's on Obama's desk. He's going to quietly sign it because he's no friend of freedom either.

http://www.mintpress.net/h-r-347-the-first-amendment-takes-another-hit/

I've made the argument that the Patriot Act was unconstitutional on it's face. I've made it known that you can now be thrown into a jail anywhere in the world for as long as the government sees fit without being charged.

You've all been worrying about Volt sales and Limbaugh's latest blunder. Well, welcome to the party at long last! I'm heading to the local sporting goods store for some more goodies...|
 
Actually, there is little new in HR347 apart from changing some wording of laws that have already been on the books. The following is an article from Salon.com that explains all of it....

TOPICS:D.C., OCCUPY CHICAGO, OCCUPY WALL STREET, WASHINGTON
In recent days, there has been a considerable amount of online speculation over a bill that made its way through the House and the Senate last week with little opposition — HR 347, or the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011.

[Quote truncated by moderator] Copyright © 2012 Salon Media Group, Inc.

Source Link: (added by moderator): http://www.salon.com/2012/03/07/the_inside_scoop_on_hr_347/singleton/
 
Further protection for the privileged class.

Get to know your politicians and President.

Blindly following a leader is just plain stupid.

But I'm sure many JUBBER's will say since Obama is signing it -- it's a good law.
 
!!

Only three people,ALL Republicans,voted against this travesty.Not going to let the progressive crowd off the hook here...NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT voted against the bill in EITHER house.Fascism I gather has progressive accomplices,and if this bill is as bad as it appears they all deserve to be turned out of office for throwing the American constitution under the bus.Well done fellas!!!:grrr:

I guess Nancy Pelosi REALLLY doesn't read the bills until they're passed!#-o
 
Reading the Bill, I'm not sure I understand the concern. It specifically relates to "Restricted Grounds", and categorises those as The White House, places where the President or other Secret-Service-protected people are located, or places or events of National significance.

The Occupy protests would not fall under the blanket of this Bill, unless they were held on the grounds of the White House or The Capitol.

I can't say I'm a fan of any such restrictive moves by a Government, but I also don't see anything particularly alarming in this Bill. I'm not defending it, just not so sure it's anything major.

But I'm the first to admit that freedom can be eroded through a thousand cuts, so maybe I DO see the problem, after all.

Am I clear? :-)
 
Ok, I guess most of you will know that I post a thread without getting most of the facts.
Here is an email I received from Partnership for Civil Justice.
They are showing what the bill HR347 is really doing. It seems, Jackoroe you are always right, that this law has existed in various forms since 1971 and amended in 2006.
It is comforting that this does not take away any rights that have already been taken.
There is a link to an interview at the end of this post.
Now, opinterph, since this was an email and I can't find a link to go to, do I post all of the email?

H.R. 347: Get the Truth on the New "Protest Law"‏

Partnershi​p for Civil Justice Fund

Partnership for Civil Justice
H.R. 347: Get the Truth on the New "Protest Law"
A Factsheet written by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund

From Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, Executive Director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund

H.R. 347: Get the Truth on the New “Protest Law”

This past week there has been a rallying cry in defense of free speech sounding the alarm that there is brand new legislation, H.R. 347, that some have wrongly argued radically transforms the landscape for protestors in the United States. Today, President Obama signed H.R. 347 into law.

Much of what has been written about H.R. 347 is not correct. We are writing this to clarify the situation and separate fact from fiction.

Many of the articles and email blasts claim that the law at issue, H.R. 347, “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011,” was written in response to, and targets, the Occupy Movement and is a new full scale assault on dissent in general. There have been alerts, articles and email campaigns urging people to take action asserting that the new bill “criminalizes protest,” is “severely curtailing First Amendment liberties,” “makes protest illegal,” is “outlawing the Occupy Movement,” and makes “free speech a felony.” There is even one campaign titled, “Say Goodbye to Your First Amendment Rights.” Sounds alarming.

At the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, we have received many calls and inquiries regarding the central question: how does this law affect protestor rights?

We think these facts will help:

Fact: H.R. 347 does not represent a new law regulating free speech rights.

Most of the language of H.R. 347 has been on the books since 2006. H.R. 347 is an amendment to an existing law, 18 USC § 1752 “restricted buildings and grounds,” that has existed in various forms since 1971. The most significant amendments to the law occurred in 2006.

The law is a bad law -- but it has been a bad law for years. Much of the language that people are talking about this week already exists and has existed for years. The language about “an event designated as a special event of national significance”? Already there. The language about “engaging in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to” a restricted area? Already there. The language about “conspiracy”? Already there.

Fact: The purpose of the existing law, and why it’s bad.

The law as substantially amended in 2006 is very problematic and people should be rightfully concerned. What the law does (but this is not new) is it creates what is in essence a roving or movable zone of federal law enforcement jurisdiction around any person who is under Secret Service protection or in conjunction with a National Special Security Event (NSSE), as distinguished from a permanently fixed location. This allows for federal prosecution of persons who commit enumerated violations of the law within that zone and some of those violations read like classic protest activities.

Among other things, the law allows the Secret Service to designate what would normally be public space as a restricted area and for there to be federal prosecution of anyone who “enters or remains” in a restricted area where a person under Secret Service protection will be visiting or which is restricted in conjunction with an NSSE; or who engages in “disorderly or disruptive conduct” with the intent and effect of “imped[ing] or disrupt[ing] the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;” or who blocks entrance to or exit from a restricted area.

Certain major events are designated as NSSEs, and there are at least three on the horizon this year. They include DNC and RNC major party conventions this summer and the NATO meeting in Chicago in May. Other events that are so designated have included IMF/World Bank meetings, G-8 and G-20 meetings, the Inaugurations, and even the Super Bowl.


http://www.justiceonline.org/videos/wbai-hr347.html
Clearing Up Misinformation on the Recent Protest Law H.R. 347, OWS Radio Interview
 
Dems are trying to avoid liberal riots such as those at the 1968 Dem convention.
 
If Democrat protestors disrupt the conventions this year, it will make Obama's chances even more doubtful than they are. People will remember that he started the movement with his socialist rants against the 1 per cent.
 
Ok, I guess most of you will know that I post a thread without getting most of the facts.
Here is an email I received from Partnership for Civil Justice.
They are showing what the bill HR347 is really doing. It seems, Jackoroe you are always right, that this law has existed in various forms since 1971 and amended in 2006.
It is comforting that this does not take away any rights that have already been taken.
There is a link to an interview at the end of this post.
Now, opinterph, since this was an email and I can't find a link to go to, do I post all of the email?

In general, if you got something in an email, you can post the whole thing. I have on occasion gotten emails with a copyright notice attached, in which case the standard short-quote rule applies.

It's often possible to find an online source by copying the entire first sentence and googling it.
 
Dems are trying to avoid liberal riots such as those at the 1968 Dem convention.

It's far more probable that the Democrats are trying to protect their corporate owners from uncomfortable truths.

If Democrat protestors disrupt the conventions this year, it will make Obama's chances even more doubtful than they are. People will remember that he started the movement with his socialist rants against the 1 per cent.

Have you got a link to some "socialist rants"?
 
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The ACLU's lawyers analyze it as covering any premises where someone with Secret Service protection is present -- whether the public has been informed or not.

its for the upcoming political conventions, which could backfire on DC and end up creating a larger issue.

Ron Paul and 2 other republicans who voted against are patriots yes, as they showed principle as did Russ Feingold in being the only senator to vote against the patriot act.

there are very few leaders in DC its time we stop voting 2 party.
 
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