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The hypocracy of New Years Eve?

RaKroma said:
The gap between Christmas when Jesus was born and January 1st New Year is not accidental. Early Christians arranged the calendar dates to commemorate birth of Jesus and the day of his circumcision (covenant with God, since Jesus was born into Jewish family.)
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Definitely overthinking this. I'm sure 99% of people on the planet are unaware of this and therefore no, most people celebrating New Year's are not celebrating circumcision, lol.
 
ravenstar said:
Given that Jesus was actually born in April his circumcision would not have occurred on January 1st. Also that Christmas is a celebration many thousands of years older than Christianity and the Bible, I don't buy this connection at all. Unless of course you're saying the Catholics stole important dates from the pagans and wrote their little informational novel around the pagan dates, thereby making the whole thing a load of fairy stories.
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Pagan Yule holiday where they decorate yule trees in winter yes, but "Christmas" before Christ and Christianity...no. And the Roman Catholic church adopted the pagan calendar but December 25-to Jan 1st was selected for religious purposes, not at random. They could have made it April 25 to May 1st and the meaning would be the same.
 
It means I'll probably make a mistake on the first 100 letters and cheques I wrote.
 
palbert said:
I am circumcised. I am not Jewish. I've made no covenant with god.
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Well that's the riddle with Christian theology that doesn't make sense to me. Catholic Church recognized Jesus' circumcision, but they never accepted it as something that Christians need to do, unlike Muslims who incorporated the circumcision into their Koran. I think Christianity dismissed and forgot the snip-snip part to make the spread of religion easier onto masses.
 
RaKroma said:
Well that's the riddle with Christian theology that doesn't make sense to me. Catholic Church recognized Jesus' circumcision, but they never accepted it as something that Christians need to do, unlike Muslims who incorporated the circumcision into their Koran. I think Christianity dismissed and forgot the snip-snip part to make the spread of religion easier onto masses.
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You can read up about the history of it on wikipedia, at least for the U.S., it was medical pseudoscience and it was believed to decrease masturbation and therefore decrease mental instability. They saw lots of mental patients masturbating inappropriately and ipso facto concluded that masturbation spawned insanity so things to decrease it were desirable. Kellogg's and other big "family friendly" companies got on the bandwagon promoting it and also all kinds of torture devices and chastity devices to send sons to sleep in so they wouldn't play with themselves and go insane or become sexually immoral.

Nowadays, it's like a $500 procedure that takes like 2 minutes. So that's why it's still normal, that plus the decision made by parents after popping out a kid literally amounts to no more than "well his daddy is so yes." There's typically no more consideration of the topic than that.
 
star-warrior said:
I'm looking forward to Easter, when that baby is a 33yo dying on a cross.
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and going on about 'oh why have you forsaken me blah blah blah'. FFS, you're a grown man; quit blaming your dad for your mistakes.
 
ravenstar said:
:lol: I actually wrote "if he was born at all" and edited it so I didn't get lynched.
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Christianity, Judaism and Islam all agree that Jesus Christ existed. The dispute is over his role. Judaism and Islam believe he was merely a Prophet while Christians believe he was the son of god.
 
I find 2012 an ok year for me. Still a lot of drama in school for me but I have learn a lot this year. Can't wait for 2013 and what's to come :D
 
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