The Hypocrisy of Conservative Politicians

[Seasoned]

Another conservative protecting traditional marriage.

 

[naked gent]

I do want to give credit to Mrs. Sanford for in her we finally have a woman who didn't stand next to her husband during his press conference and didn't immediately forgive his transgression.

Its nice to see a woman who won't 'stand by her man'

 

[Zeno Lorea]

All this is very true, but even if these guys resign, their electorate will find other crooks to be misled by. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and they are called the religious right.

 

[NineOfClubs]

Conservatives screwing up the concept of fidelity and the sanctity of marriage will do more to aid the cause of gay marriage than hundreds of op-ed pieces or thousands of demonstrations.

This is good news for gays.

 

[JayHawk]

What I don't understand is why the only little trick in the JiBerals playbook is to cast doubt on conservative gay men simply because the party that says they hold conservative values is morally bankrupt. I mean really is this third grade? Can any of you possibly conceive the idea that gay conservative JUBbers enjoy sex and relationships with men and yet want low taxes, desire that their government stay the fuck out of their lives, need a strong military and the right to bear arms. Is it so hard to contemplate? Really? I mean not everyone is for huggin trees and shootin people to save the squirrels or some other rodent.

Look at the party you stand with and then tell me to hold my head because I like the ideas that the republican party fails to uphold yet preaches daily. Gimme a fuckin break. Here is a "defined" by the masses JUB republican saying "Eat this"

 

[Passion4Muzik]

So you're admitting that your party is less tough on infidelity?

Well, that's sort of a given. No need to tell me that. Bill Clinton and John Edwards could tell you about infidelity.

By the way, buddy: if you look at Mark Sanford's record, he barely passes as a Republican. Anyone who calls Mark Sanford a conservative is simply uneducated.

However, let's assume Mark Sanford was a conservative. Are you trying to somehow say that it's okay when liberals cheat on their wives, but it's not okay when Republicans do it?

Apparently, with the astonishing number of Democrats who have committed infidelity against their wives, Democrats just don't have any morals and don't have the self-control to be faithful to their wives.

Of course, again, there's really no discussion here. Mark Sanford isn't a conservative, so the original poster is just wrong anyway.

Bill Clinton
John Edwards
Elliot Spitzer
David Paterson
Gavin Newson
John F. Kennedy (The Dem's "golden boy")
Lyndon B. Johnson
Franklin D. Roosevelt

ALL had extramarital affairs.

Throw that in with the fact that Mark Sanford is NOT a conservative, and you Democrats and liberals have quite a lot of explaining to do.

And you're calling me the nine year old?

Wow.

Were any of them in the "family values" crowd and calling for others to be impeached or thrown out of office? The issue here is not about affairs -- it's about hypocrisy. When he called you nine, maybe he was referring to your level of comprehension.

 

[naked gent]

Haha, perhaps she wasn't planning to run for the US Senate?

Too bad I'd probably vote for her.

Sorry, but you are quite wrong.

Mrs. Sanford did, in fact, forgive her husband's "transgressions".

She also kicked him out of the house and didn't appear with him at his press conference which separates her from the political wives, both democratic and republican, who have come before her these last 20yrs.

And your little comments in the quote are quite interesting, considering they are coming from someone who belongs to a party that was born out of a platform based upon female submission and preserving slavery.

I hope you won't be disappointed to find out I'm not a member of the democratic party.

 

[naked gent]

Are you trying to pass Sanford off as a Republican and/or conservative?

Because if you are, you're wrong.

You're making the ultimate hypocrisy of all. You're condemning ONE conservative politician for having an affair,

OK NOG I'll bite is Sanford a conservative or not?

 

[naked gent]

If we initiated the war on terror in order to get fucking oil, please explain why gas prices are skyrocketing towards 4 dollars a gallon.

I dunno but maybe its the same reason we fought in Vietnam to save the vietnamese from communism and today they are communist.

Also, please explain why Obama, the racist-against-whites Muslim who all the Democrats covet, promised no higher taxes then turned around and released the most extreme budget of all the other budgets in history combined, please.

Maybe because he's a closet republican and is more than willing to increase spending while simultaneously cutting taxes.

(although I concede his desire to pay for his healthcare plan is very unrepublican.)

 

[JayHawk]

NightOwl, except in the arena of hypocrisy, I really and truly don't care who fucks whom. And if Sanford had not run on a platform of family values, I wouldn't be posting in this thread right here and right now.

As Obama has indicated through actions he will too fail to live up to his campaign words. Where will the howl of hypocrisy be then?

 

[JayHawk]

they have been looking at health care and an energy plan for 60 years too.

They never do substantial things it seems. Just partisan swipes to get as far ahead as possible before losing power.

Maybe term limits are wrong. what if we just finished 16 years of Clinton?

 

[Centexfarmer]

Oh really?

So, why is it only hypocritical if it is committed by a conservative politician?

There have been many more liberals who have been unfaithful to their wives than there are conservative politicians.

True.

In fact, I'll publicly concede that FACT; Democratic Colorado Senator, and former POTUS primary candidate Gary Hart, Democratic North Carolina Senator and former primary candidate John Edwards, former Democratic Arkansas Governor and President Bill Clinton, and the list could go on and on...

However, I challenge you to PROVE anywhere, where those candidates were "Family Values / Christians," that publicly took a stand, campaign contributions for same, and actively campaigned to secure the "second class" status of GLBT Americans, thus making us a "political football" within the Social Class Welfare program that was created for, and by their own personal benefit.

As has been pointed out by some more "liberal" (as you call them) Social Commentators, we should now assume when some "conservative politicians" start railing against "Gay Marriage," and any other program on the "Social Conservative" agenda that get's them campaign contributions/votes/GOP support, that what they're really saying is "I'm having an affair with someone besides my wife, but don't listen to me, look at those EVIL Democrats."

To buy that bullshit, is to buy into the idea that the rest of Americans are just plain stupid.

That may be true, but when their intelligence is challenged in the voting booth by "hypocrites" who claim to know better, those hypocrites have been known historically to lose.

Pointing the finger at "liberuls" or some "other" as if to justify how "right" it is, doesn't seem to fly with most Americans that recognize that 2+2 does in fact = 4.

Let me know how that works out for you, and those arguments in this debate.

 

[Shafted]

You're making the ultimate hypocrisy of all. You're condemning ONE conservative politician for having an affair, when at the same time you are telling conservative politicians to "stay out of your bedroom".

Now who's the fucking hypocrite?

And apparently, to you, one conservative politician holds more weight than MULTIPLE affairs, one even conducted by multiple Presidents?

You, sir, are just uneducated.

Goddamn, you're thick.

 

[andysayshi]

And apparently, to you, one conservative politician holds more weight than MULTIPLE affairs, one even conducted by multiple Presidents?

I gotta ask ... which one affair was conducted by multiple Presidents? That was one hell of a party...

 

[bankside]

Can any of you possibly conceive the idea that gay conservative JUBbers enjoy sex and relationships with men and yet want low taxes, desire that their government stay the fuck out of their lives, need a strong military and the right to bear arms. Is it so hard to contemplate? Really? I mean not everyone is for huggin trees and shootin people to save the squirrels or some other rodent.

My big issue with conservatism in the United States is that people pretend it stands for government staying the fuck out of their lives, and yet it doesn't do so in practice, and it doesn't want to do so either.

They claim to want to stay out of your wallet, but that is not how they spend. And they are brazenly open about trying to police your bedroom. I don't get how anyone falls for it. But what the hell, I have a bridge to sell you. Bids?

Anyway, whenever anyone trips up one of these hypocritical moralizing bastards, I'm happy to see them fall.

Oh, and the right to bear arms is just stupid.

 

[DanikShade]

Seriously?

This fucking "blood for oil" bullshit again? Seriously?

Easy NightOwl, take a deep breath lol. in......... out.......... in.......... out........

What always stuns me in discussions about the war in Iraq is the one simple fact that always seems to get ignored. I have friends in Iraq right now and I have friends in Afghanistan. Iraq at least for the time being has the first democratically elected government they have ever had. Can you imagine that? It might not be perfect, they have some flaws ( like we don't? ) but they have a freely elected representative government. That's fucking amazing! Our troops gave them the chance to choose for themselves for the first time in over 2000 years, and still we have people pissing and whining about the "oil war". Are you kidding?

Governor Sanford is an embarrassment not just to the Republican Party but to his state. His actions are despicable and cannot be defended. I feel for his wife and his boys and I would pay good money to see him dragged behind a semi through the Arizona desert. The problem with Republicans these days as this thread points out is that they've become what the Democrats are. Worthless self serving children that want it their own way and in anyone who criticizes them should be destroyed.

Both parties have strayed so far from their foundations that we more or less have one big party now that doesn't answer to anyone and is never wrong and all of their disagreements are staged for the benefit of MSNBC so they can actually have a story tonight.

Truman once said "The buck stops here!" Hillary told Bill "The fuck stops here!" Sounds like a quip but its not. Its an example of how far the entire process has decayed. No one is accountable to anyone now. To accuse either side of hypocrisy without accusing the other is a bit stupid, guys. There's plenty of dumb fucks in Washington to go around.

Personally I'm reading up on the Libertarian Party. They seem rather supportive of gay rights.

 

[DanikShade]

NightOwl, this particular affair appalls me more than all the rest because it's unique. A standing politician abandoned his duties, telling no one where he was going, in order to travel 1000s of miles to see a mistress.

But getting a blow in the Oval Fucking Office in the Fucking Whitehouse, in the capital of the most powerful nation on the planet is just okie dokie lol. Really? I'm not defending the Governor but your outrage is a bit of a stretch for me. I see no difference other than we seem to want Sanford hung and Clinton took a walk on the whole thing.

 

[DanikShade]

The ends justify the means, in your opinion?

Absolutely. And if Obama decided to kick some N. Korean ass I'd be right behind him waving pom poms.

The war was unconstitutional and should never have occured.

Congress disagreed with you. Or not. Actually it depended on which program they were on at the time. They voted for it before they voted against it. That's right! Today's word is..... Hypocrisy!

What government did they have "over 2000 years" ago that allowed them "to choose for themselves" and what?

Gosh, I just did a quick look up and I couldn't find a record of any democratically elected government in Iraq before we got there. But you already knew that didn't you? You were just teasing! Now So-Damn Insane said he was elected 98% to 2% but the only other place that ever happened was Iran were Ima Nut Job was elected 124% to, well, some other really small number. I find these claims a little suspicious myself.

Honestly, it isn't any of our business, assuming you, like me, aren't from SC (though I am from NC, it still has no concern over me). The problem for Sanford, as with all the other hypocrites who claim to stand on moral high ground, is their hypocrisy.

So you're saying the problem with hypocrites is..... their....... hypocrisy. Well thank God we had you here to straighten that out. Whew!

I have no idea what you are trying to stay here.

Yes I can see that.

Do you have a cite proving she said this?

nope and won't lose sleep on it either.

You don't know the definition of hypocrisy, it seems.

Then I am in august company aren't I?

They are also a joke. Good luck with them! As you said earlier in your post, which was actually something with which I agreed, both parties act like one when it comes to preserving the two-party system of control.

If we must quote me be so kind as to include my original intent which was that the Republicans and the Democrats are so alike its hard to tell which is which. I never mentioned preserving the 2-party system, and I stated that I was reading up on the Libertarians and that they seemed to support same sex rights. I drew no other conclusions. I leave that entirely in your good hands. Try not to get to carried away.

 

[DanikShade]

Danik, I can't make it any clearer.

I'm outraged because he "walked off the floor". I cannot recall any other politician in my 47-year life ever doing that—for ANY reason. Danik, if you're employed, surely you know the consequences of walking off the floor.

The fact that he abandoned his work duties for a piece of pussy 8000 miles away makes it even worse.

Agreed, whole heartedly! Hang the son of a bitch! But if we hang one then we need to hang them all, any time one of them breaks the law. The "pussy" as you so eloquently put it is irrelevant. If someone breaks the law of an oath or a cantract hang the bastard! But hang them all, not just the one's you don't personally like because he's a conservative. Only then can we stop hypocrisy.

 

[DanikShade]

Gawd, I feel like I'm talking to a child. Do you righties really have trouble understanding such a simple situation?

I share your pain