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On Topic Discussion "The Ides of March are come."

@NotHardUp1 Thanks for the images of the aureus. I forwarded it to family and friends; neither they nor I had been aware of it or its origin.

Further digression: while I know little of ancient coins, I find it interesting that it seems that, unlike earlier Greek and Hellenistic rulers who present idealized portraits of themselves (Alexander, for example, is shown as Apollo-like and often wears the lion hood of Hercules), Roman coin portraits more often present their subjects as everyday men. Moving forward in time, Michelangelo's Renaissance Brutus in the Bargello looks to be a decisive and disdainful man of action, whereas the Brutus on the coin looks thoroughly ordinary.

The young Napoleon was fortunate that he had a perfect face for propaganda and great painters to commemorate his victories and accomplishments.
 
Latimer said:
She's very pretty and charming here.
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At some point, Davis made the transition from mindless waif to dramatic actress, most notably in The Corn Is Green (1945) and Now Voyager (1942). I would opine that she already sized up the downgrade of aging actresses by the studios and charted her course as a soon-to-be spinster/frump/crone. She progressive played not just strong women, but shrews, misfits, and murderesses.

Latimer said:
It was, however, unfair of me not to have added that, after years of constant warfare between and amongst individuals and factions, Augustus inaugurated the start of a period of peace, the Pax Romana, the period which included the years in which Gibbon believed "the condition of the human race was most happy and prosperous."
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My own impression of Augustus is that he is much like JFK in that he succeeded in having his memory venerated by succeeding in having the influence over the historians who left such a flattering record of him. His early years included plenty of intrigue and propaganda. He reminds me much of the accounts of Jacob in the Hebrew scriptures.

Whenever I am in Rome for any length of time I visit the Ara Pacis Augustae, the altar Augustus built to celebrate the peace that came with his reign. I do so as much to pay quiet tribute to his genius as to admire the beauty of the sculptural decoration. While now re-erected in handsome enough building in a busy part of the modern city, the altar was at one time set in a large garden. How I would have loved to see it there!
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I always loved the fictional death of Augustus in I, Claudius when his widow confesses to Claudius that she was only able to finish him off by painting the fruit with poison in his personal grove. It was so malicious, and the lines delivered perfectly. Of course, in reality, Augustus lived to be quite old for a man of his century, I think in his 80's.

Latimer said:
@NotHardUp1 Thanks for the images of the aureus. I forwarded it to family and friends; neither they nor I had been aware of it or its origin.

Further digression: while I know little of ancient coins, I find it interesting that it seems that, unlike earlier Greek and Hellenistic rulers who present idealized portraits of themselves (Alexander, for example, is shown as Apollo-like and often wears the lion hood of Hercules), Roman coin portraits more often present their subjects as everyday men. Moving forward in time, Michelangelo's Renaissance Brutus in the Bargello looks to be a decisive and disdainful man of action, whereas the Brutus on the coin looks thoroughly ordinary.

The young Napoleon was fortunate that he had a perfect face for propaganda and great painters to commemorate his victories and accomplishments.
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That's an interesting observation. Maybe our resident ancient coin collector, Johaninsc, knows something of why the Romans used unflattering or crude imagery on coinage.
 
johaninsc said:
where's Brutus now...when you need him?



nice coin

I believe that it is the only know example of a genuine Eid Mar aureus
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appears that is one of three aureii


this one just sold for $4.2 million

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https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/...ureus-realizes-nearly-4-2-million-at-auction/
 
If I remember correctly, when I found the coin in the OP, there was some concern about counterfeiting in these very rare coins.

It seems all the more suspect that one so rare exists in such pristine detail, don't you think?

After that Galileo book hoax detailed on Nova, I'm sure it is even easier to counterfeit gold coins, or is it?

Johann, what do you know of the fakes?
 
Re: "The Ides of March are come."

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The reverse of the coin that Brutus issued is of much interest, showing a pileus, representing freedom, flanked by two daggers. The Dioscuri, the twin brothers Castor and Pollux--protectors and defenders of the Republic--are also shown wearing the pileus, in this case also representing an egg shell, as they and their twin sisters Helen and Clytemnestra, were hatched from eggs, their mother Leda having coupled with Zeus.

From the Wikipedia article:

"In Ancient Rome, a slave was freed in a ceremony in which a praetor touched the slave with a rod called a vindicta and pronounced him to be free. The slave's head was shaved and a pileus was placed upon it. Both the vindicta and the cap were considered symbols of Libertas, the goddess representing liberty. This was a form of extra-legal manumission (the manumissio minus justa) considered less legally sound than manumission in a court of law.

"One 19th century dictionary of classical antiquity states that, "Among the Romans the cap of felt was the emblem of liberty. When a slave obtained his freedom he had his head shaved, and wore instead of his hair an undyed pileus." Hence the phrase servos ad pileum vocare is a summons to liberty, by which slaves were frequently called upon to take up arms with a promise of liberty (Liv. XXIV.32). The figure of Liberty on some of the coins of Antoninus Pius, struck A.D. 145, holds this cap in the right hand."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileus_(hat)

In the 18th century the Phrygian cap was conflated with the pileus, and thus came to be associated with liberty and the struggle against tyranny. The personification of Liberty wears a Phrygian cap.

From the Wikipedia article:

"...the symbol of republicanism and anti-monarchial sentiment appeared in the United States as headgear of Columbia,[14] who in turn was visualized as a goddess-like female national personification of the United States and of Liberty herself. The cap reappears in association with Columbia in the early years of the republic, for example, on the obverse of the 1785 Immune Columbia pattern coin, which shows the goddess with a helmet seated on a globe holding in a right hand a furled U.S. flag topped by the liberty cap.

"The use of a Phrygian-style cap as a symbol of revolutionary France is first documented in May 1790, at a festival in Troyes adorning a statue representing the nation, and at Lyon, on a lance carried by the goddess Libertas. To this day the national allegory of France, Marianne, is shown wearing a red Phrygian cap."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap
 
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