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The invasion of Mexican trucks...

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This is a very hot topic among the trucking forums...

I'm not sure whether the rest of America is aware of what is going on...

I am certainly biased one way towards this issue...

But, I'd love to hear everyone elses opinions...

Before reading the article...

Here are my MAIN concerns (having driven INTO the 30 mil free trade zone TOO MANY times...)

Their trucks are held together by rubber bands (well -- you get the point -- safe equipment (although I'm sure it will be for the "trial period") is NOT one of their concerns...)

They work for less than HALF of what American drivers get paid -- How can we compete???

Their Diesel is less than $1.00 per gallon (whereas we pay almost $3.00) -- How can we compete???

This is a BIG issue for me since it is my livelihood -- I've spoken with my congressman -- problem is -- the government doesn't seem to care about what the congress -- OR -- us citizens think...

Here is the article (although WND may be partial one way or the other -- the facts are there)...

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


(TTNews.com)
Despite congressional opposition, the Bush administration is fully committed to beginning within weeks a pilot test that will allow Mexican trucks to operate freely across the U.S.

A spokesman for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, Ian Grossman, told WND the agency plans to grant the first authority for a Mexican trucking company to operate its long-haul rigs throughout the U.S. as early as the end of this month.

WND previously reported an amendment introduced by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., into the Fiscal Year 2007 Supplemental Appropriations Bill is designed to block the Department of Transportation's pilot test until the Mexican government authorizes U.S. trucking companies to operate in Mexico.

(Story continues below)

WND also reported Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has introduced the NAFTA Trucking Safety Act, designed to block the test until current FMSCA regulations regarding Mexican trucks operating beyond commercial zones along the international border are clarified and strengthened.

The Mexican trucking company can begin operating trucks in the U.S. immediately, once the FMCSA grants the authority, Grossman told WND.

Grossman explained granting authority to the 100 Mexican trucking companies specified under the DOT pilot test may take between four to six months to complete.

"The department is committed to moving forward with this program," he said, "and will continue to work with members of Congress to address their concerns."

Reaction from the Teamsters Union was immediate and sharp.

"The Department of Transportation can't enforce truck safety in the United States, let alone at the southern border," spokeswoman Leslie Miller told WND. "The Bush administration continues to show a reckless disregard for the will of Congress and the American people who oppose this illegal pilot project."

Rod Nofzinger, spokesman for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, was equally critical.

"Unfortunately, the administration is bound and determined to move forward with their Mexican trucking program despite the serious concerns that have been raised by the American public, Mexico-domiciled trucking companies and lawmakers on Capital Hill, both Republicans and Democrats alike," Nofzinger told WND.

"I have little doubt that they want to beat Congress to the finish line on this," Nofzinger continued. "They know that once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's awfully hard to get it back in. Once Mexican trucks start rolling throughout the U.S., it will be very difficult for Congress and the American people to turn them back, regardless of the safety and security risks that they'll be carrying with them."

Hunter also was critical of the FMCSA decision to begin implementing the Mexican truck pilot test immediately.

The congressman's spokesman, Joe Kasper, told WND Hunter has significant concerns about the program.

"Congressman Hunter maintains that compliance and enforcement standards must be clarified and strengthened before the pilot program is implemented," Kasper said. "Congressman Hunter will utilize the program's impending implementation as an opportunity to promote and continue highlighting the importance of the NAFTA Trucking Safety Act."

Responding to the congressional concerns, Grossman said Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta had certified in 2002 that DOT met each of the 22 safety requirements Congress in the Fiscal Year 2002 DOT Appropriations Bill demanded be met before allowing trucks from Mexico to drive beyond U.S. commercial zones along the border.

Kasper disagreed, insisting Mineta's certification was not enough.

"We need public disclosure of the safety requirements and public debate, including a DOT filing in the Federal Register before we approve this test," Kasper told WND.

"While the NAFTA Trucking Safety Act restates the safety conditions included in the FY2002 appropriations measure," Kasper continued, "the legislation goes further by requiring the implementation of English proficiency standards and data base accessibility for law enforcement officials to verify a driver's identification and criminal history."

Hunter's NAFTA Trucking Safety Act has been referred to several House committees, including House Transportation and Infrastructure; Homeland Security; Judiciary; and Ways and Means.

According to Kasper, the NAFTA Trucking Safety Act has collected 18 co-sponsors.

Asked to comment on the Feinstein amendment or Hunter's NAFTA Trucking Safety Act, Grossman told WND the FMCSA "was engaging in no speculation on the course of possible congressional legislation" regarding the Mexican truck pilot test
 
Gentry, I don't know what this country is coming too. Why don't we just hand over this country to who ever... I can't believe that this is gong on, First they take our jobs and sent them to mexico and now this...This is going to be a fuckn night maire...

Do you ever run through St Louis on 55 70 going east. I live in a town on the Illinois side. Just wondering, I go to St Louis at least once or twice a month and I always look to see if you might be on the highway somewhere, haha!

I've seen your rig in your gallery, nice piece of machinery.

I usually run 64 to 70 westbound -- and back the same way (Georgia to Seattle/Portland)...

You'll have to look REAL hard to find me amongst the THOUSANDS of trucks that run the same corridor EVERY day -- lol....

I LOVE your city (btw -- when is IL going to finish that HUGE construction on 64???)...

Oh...

And if you read the article...

Isn't it interesting that the FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration - just another beaurocracy) says -- It doesn't matter what CONGRESS says??? They're going to go through with it since the President wants it???
 
Playwithmemonkey, you can also thank Clinton for this as well. Bush 41 proposed NAFTA. Clinton backed it, pushed it through Congress and signed it. Gentry's situation is a product of a bipartisan fucking. There should be on set of rules for all trucks operating on US highways. Congress should investigate the rocket and feather effect of gasoline prices. Oil and gasoline shoot up simultaneoulsy but gasoline prices come down much slower. One week the National Petroleum Institute says we have the highest number of barrels of oil in storage tanks in 5 years and the next week Exxon says their stores of gasoline are limited so prices are rising. How can that be true? I can't remember any "NO GAS" signs at the gas stations since 1979. As long as Exxon and Shell can make trmendous political contributions to congressional and presidential campaigns of both major parties, nothing will be done. The oil lobby buys the congress.
 
People along I5 are concerned about this. The only thing I can think of is for the states to require that stringent safety standards be met by all trucks within their borders. It would face a serious constitutional challenge, but in the meantime our highways would be safer and truckers in the country, wherever they might hail from, would be on a far closer-to-equal footing.
 
It's a horrible thing. I've been saying it for years that our government is selling us down the river with this open border policy.

Gentry, I'm sorry this is happening to you. American truckers put up with so much out there on the roads. Your job is dangerous and truck drivers die every day bringing us the goods and products we need onto the shelves of stores. This is a slap in the face to your profession outsourced to a Mexican trucking company. I'm sick of the whole thing.

Stupid Democrats who think this is a "humanitarian" issue and the greedy, fat cat Republicans who want to put the American out of the job and give it to a foreigner who will work for half the pay to fatten their own wallets.
 
The open border policy is a good thing.

The lower-our-standards and endanger our citizens to give the foreigners a chance isn't.
Sure, let Mexicans haul freight in the U.S., so long as U.S. drivers can haul freight in Mexico. But make them meet the same safety standards, the same registry fees, the same educational standards, that our truckers do.
And if any bleeding humanitarian wants to cry that they can't afford to, I say tough -- let them earn a place on the team before they can get onto the field. Our truckers went through the learning process and paid for trucks that are up to standards we consider safe, and letting someone else in for less insults them, besides the fact that it will make our roads less safe and our air dirtier.
They wanna drive in Denver? Let 'em meet Denver's air quality requirements. They wanna truck up I5? Let 'em pass the same vehicle safety inspections.

Every state where these guys go should stop every one of those trucks for inspection, and if they don't pass the safety or emissions checks, impound the vehicle until their employer in Mexico either pays to get it up to standard or have it shipped back.
 
The open border policy is a good thing.

The lower-our-standards and endanger our citizens to give the foreigners a chance isn't.
Sure, let Mexicans haul freight in the U.S., so long as U.S. drivers can haul freight in Mexico. But make them meet the same safety standards, the same registry fees, the same educational standards, that our truckers do.
And if any bleeding humanitarian wants to cry that they can't afford to, I say tough -- let them earn a place on the team before they can get onto the field. Our truckers went through the learning process and paid for trucks that are up to standards we consider safe, and letting someone else in for less insults them, besides the fact that it will make our roads less safe and our air dirtier.
They wanna drive in Denver? Let 'em meet Denver's air quality requirements. They wanna truck up I5? Let 'em pass the same vehicle safety inspections.

Every state where these guys go should stop every one of those trucks for inspection, and if they don't pass the safety or emissions checks, impound the vehicle until their employer in Mexico either pays to get it up to standard or have it shipped back.


You're absolutely right on this one. States have safety standards that they can enforced. If the truck is unsafe, it needs to be siezed and towed away. Don't release it until it meets safety standards. This is clearly a states rights issue.
 
Gentry, I don't know what this country is coming too. Why don't we just hand over this country to who ever... I can't believe that this is gong on, First they take our jobs and sent them to mexico and now this...This is going to be a fuckn night maire...

Not sure where you live, but here in California the Mexicans do most of the jobs that Americans aren't interested in doing.
 
it makes me mad


the boycott is on for the 23 rd and i dont know why they dont go to state capitols at least if they cant make it to dc

I think that we ARE going to try the state capitals as well -- at least thats what I heard on the radio today...

And CERTAIN states (California, Washington, NJ) should be ESPECIALLY concerned about this...

Think about it...

They have MAJOR ports...

When it becomes CHEAPER to ship products to Mexican ports and than truck it cheaply into the U.S.

Guess who else loses their livelihood...
 
It's a horrible thing. I've been saying it for years that our government is selling us down the river with this open border policy.

Gentry, I'm sorry this is happening to you. American truckers put up with so much out there on the roads. Your job is dangerous and truck drivers die every day bringing us the goods and products we need onto the shelves of stores. This is a slap in the face to your profession outsourced to a Mexican trucking company. I'm sick of the whole thing.

Stupid Democrats who think this is a "humanitarian" issue and the greedy, fat cat Republicans who want to put the American out of the job and give it to a foreigner who will work for half the pay to fatten their own wallets.

Thanks for your show of support...

I think this is the "giant sucking sound" (when it comes to jobs) that Ross Perot warned us about...
 
Kuhlindar -- your thoughts are well presented (as usual -- although I think you would find it difficult to find an American truck driver willing to drive into Mexico)...

And thanks to everyone else for reading and responding to this thread...

I was emailed yesterday by a trucking organization to try and get the word out about this -- since major media isn't covering it...

I guess they're waiting for the drastic results...

Before...

They consider it news...
 
You're absolutely right on this one. States have safety standards that they can enforced. If the truck is unsafe, it needs to be siezed and towed away. Don't release it until it meets safety standards. This is clearly a states rights issue.

I gotta watch Bush squirm when (if?) the states stand up and kill his whole idea here. He's supposedly a states' rights supporter (though from the behavior of his attorney generals, you'd never know it).

I don't see how it is in this case. Other than that, perfectly reasonable measures you've pointed out.

Open borders help bind neighboring nations together, and free trade always results in greater wealth for all, in the long run.

I think that we ARE going to try the state capitals as well -- at least thats what I heard on the radio today...

And CERTAIN states (California, Washington, NJ) should be ESPECIALLY concerned about this...

Think about it...

They have MAJOR ports...

When it becomes CHEAPER to ship products to Mexican ports and than truck it cheaply into the U.S.

Guess who else loses their livelihood...

Whoa -- excellent points!

I guess the article didn't address this point...

The concept origated out of NAFTA...

The current "pilot program" was a co-ordinated effort by GW Bush and Ted Kennedy (why -- I cannot understand)...

It is SO UN-AMERICAN...

Kennedy isn't "American", he's all about being politically correct. It's PC to help the downtrodden, and the Mexicans are downtrodden, so....

Trouble is, Americans were once "downtrodden" in the same sense, and 'we' lifted ourselves by our own bootstraps, we didn't suck off someone else. This is like baring our necks to a vampire.

And while NAFTA is a good idea, it was never intended to lower standards; that, IIRC, was made explicit in the original concept. This is a betrayal of NAFTA.

Kuhlindar -- your thoughts are well presented (as usual -- although I think you would find it difficult to find an American truck driver willing to drive into Mexico)...

Maybe if we could get Mexico to honor the Second Amendment rights of Americans inside Mexican borders.... :rolleyes:

I was emailed yesterday by a trucking organization to try and get the word out about this -- since major media isn't covering it...

I guess they're waiting for the drastic results...

Before...

They consider it news...

But truckers earn lots of money, so why should it matter if they're being put at risk? Maybe if they were union -- I mean, everyone knows that unions are for the "working man". #-o
 
Not sure where you live, but here in California the Mexicans do most of the jobs that Americans aren't interested in doing.
It's not that american's aren't interested in doing the jobs, it's that they can't to do the jobs for minimum wage or less. Because unlike the mexicans, Americans have taxes, have mortgages, credit ratings and other various things that the illegals don't have to worry about. The whole idea that Americans won't or aren't going to do the jobs that the illegal come here to do, is just a lie invented by corperate greed and only fueled by purchased politicians.
 
It's not that american's aren't interested in doing the jobs, it's that they can't to do the jobs for minimum wage or less. Because unlike the mexicans, Americans have taxes, have mortgages, credit ratings and other various things that the illegals don't have to worry about. The whole idea that Americans won't or aren't going to do the jobs that the illegal come here to do, is just a lie invented by corperate greed and only fueled by purchased politicians.

Sorry, but it isn't.
I could walk through some of the apartment complexes here and collect a dozen white guys, easy, who won't take some of the jobs the Mexicans do -- they consider those too hard, or too dirty. There are two guys I know here who won't clean restrooms, even at $8.50/hr -- restrooms are just too gross!
But there are jobs they do that Americans can't -- because of government regulations. Kids around here used to pick berries, help harvest hand-picked vegetables, harvest moss from the woods -- but government regulations killed all that. We can't have kids under 16 earning $50 a day every weekend; rigorous labor is bad for them -- forget the fact that that additional $400/mo for three or four months helped keep food on the family table; no, we have to help people no matter how much it harms them.
It's a more complex situation than people might like to believe.
 
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