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The Majority Whip,Whips it up

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By predefinitions A Parties "whip"is to to get people in line and to toe the line of the party for what ever the agenda is.

Either Mr.Clyburn is a wise man and sees his party melting, or he has one of the biggest set of balls in the DNC. and does not fear loosing his place at the Banquet Table.


[SIZE=-1]By Dan Balz and Chris Cillizza
Washington Post Staff Writer and Washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Monday, July 30, 2007; 6:26 PM
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House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report on progress on Iraq by Army Gen. David Petraeus likely would split Democrats in the House and impede his party's efforts to press for a timetable to end the war.
Clyburn, in an interview with the washingtonpost.com video program PostTalk, said Democrats might be wise to wait for the Petraeus report, scheduled to be delivered in September, before charting next steps in their year-long struggle with President Bush over the direction of U.S. strategy.
Clyburn noted that Petraeus carries significant weight among the 47 members of the Blue Dog caucus in the House, a group of moderate to conservative Democrats. Without their support, he said, Democratic leaders would find it virtually impossible to pass legislation setting a timetable for withdrawal.
"I think there would be enough support in that group to want to stay the course and if the Republicans were to stay united as they have been, then it would be a problem for us," Clyburn said. "We, by and large, would be wise to wait on the report."
Many Democrats have anticipated that, at best, Petraeus and U.S. ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker would present a mixed analysis of the success of the current troop surge strategy, given continued violence in Baghdad. But of late there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive. Clyburn said that would be "a real big problem for us."
Clyburn's comments came as House and Senate Democrats try to figure out their next steps in the legislative battle. Clyburn said he could foresee a circumstance in which House Democrats approve a measure without a timetable for withdrawing U.S. forces, which has been the consistent goal of the party throughout the months-long debate. But he said he could just as easily see Democrats continue to include a timetable.
Clyburn also address the reasons behind declining approval ratings for Congress, which spiked earlier in the year when Democrats took over the House and Senate. The most recent Washington Post-ABC News poll showed just 37 percent approving of the performance of Congress.
"Remember right after the election it went very high on approval,?" he said. "Then all of a sudden people saw that we were not yielding the kind of result that they wanted to yield."
He said most Americans still do not know some of the domestic legislation that has been approved. Fewer understand that, despite Democratic majorities in both houses, that it takes 60 votes to pass anything legislation in the Senate.
Clyburn noted that while overall approval ratings of Congress are low, people still rate Democrats higher than Republicans. "People feel good about the Democratic Party, they just don't feel real good about the Congress itself."
 
Imagine that, success in Iraq will be a problem for democrats. They really are hoping for defeat.
 
Clyburn noted that Petraeus carries significant weight among the 47 members of the Blue Dog caucus in the House,

Damn,what will theYellow Dog(s) have to say ...
 
^ the Blue Dogs are an interesting group. Normal people who happen to be democrats. People who believe in lower taxes and the Second Amendment. Democrats the way they used to be.
 
Imagine that, success in Iraq will be a problem for democrats. They really are hoping for defeat.
If Bush proves to be correct, I'd really hate to admit it .... but I would. The good of this country means more to me than blind partisanship. ..|
 
AMEN Smelter


The good of this country means more to me than blind partisanship.
 
^ You are an honorable man, Smelter. It's about getting this over and getting our people home to the heroes welcome, they deserve. It shouldn't be about politics, but we all know it is. If things aren't going well when Patreus reports, then they never will. It should be time for us to get out of Dodge in either event.
 
If Bush proves to be correct, I'd really hate to admit it .... but I would. The good of this country means more to me than blind partisanship. ..|
Not going wobbly,Smelter!;)you've always seemed to represent the best of what a Democrat is.I am skeptical of the surge working....it will take a lot for me to credit Bush on this,especially how needlessly the Administration let everything get so bad.And I'm supposed to be one of the dreaded 20.:eek:
 
^ You are an honorable man, Smelter. It's about getting this over and getting our people home to the heroes welcome, they deserve. It shouldn't be about politics, but we all know it is. If things aren't going well when Patreus reports, then they never will. It should be time for us to get out of Dodge in either event.

^ Ditto. Such a concise statement, Smelter. Party lines have no value on the front lines.

To echo jackoroe, let's lay this to rest and bring our folks home.
 
Americans want Congress to manage the outcome of the war, that 59% of Americans want all forces removed from Iraq within one year?

General: to your point, why do Americans have to "want" Congress to manage the war? According to the rules of our republic, Congress declares war and manages war.

Last I checked, it was up to Congress to administer the terms of warfare. If Americans are upset with the administration of the war, then they need to look to the fact that the Congress has not been in control of this war since its inception, which, by doctrine, they should be. IMHO.
 
Why? Democrats don't that nasty habit the GOP has, where one cannot dissent without being disemboweled.

Oh I think Nancy well stick her foot up his ass for this.

But it really doesn't matter whether the so-called "blue dogs" do because it doesn't matter.

So it is pick & choose the dem that only toe YOUR line.

Well, what can one say -- I mean, this is the GOPs war, and it is lost, General Petraeus (no relation) or no.

Thanks for proving that you are the one,ONE, that hates America.Something MIGHT happen and you say WTF the WAR is lost........Don't matter that Dems or Pugs may agree,and give Petaesus the time,, APPROVED by Congress ?

Will you ever think out-side your blinders ?
 
[QUOTEI do hope you and the other charter members of the Stay at Homes will get your crack to Iraq but a yellow bellied sapsucker seldom changes spots. Tweet tweet.][/QUOTE]

Tweet your ass on over Alf. I done told ya several times I served my country,and I can-not go back as I receive disability from the Army . SO STFU about getting my ass to Iraq.

You say you do=not support the war,Fine. But asked before U never answer : Why have you not taken your ass to Iraq and win a Pulitzer Prize with your Polaroid Land Camera
You have told me/others to go over as an independent contractor. Why are you still living in your concrete jungle of NYC ?
Waving the flag isn't the same as standing up for it.

You spout off all the time about "us hating America",You show no support for anything American, None.Zip. Zilch. The only thing you seem to support is Rent Control and the worst Dem is still better then the Best Pug.

I think you need to get out of your Egg Carton Concrete City and Rat filled subway and see what this Great Country is really like. Take your box camera and tripod,you may see some smiling faces.

This lesson in war will/might work,if people like you would bend and give America's Leaders time as promised. Wait till the Generals report.
 
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